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icemanfx
post Jan 5 2021, 10:03 AM

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QUOTE(firee818 @ Jan 5 2021, 09:39 AM)
Very good info, now i know the reasons.
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Most development projects in this country are for politicians not for rakyat.

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post Jan 5 2021, 03:03 PM

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QUOTE(Babizz @ Jan 5 2021, 07:25 AM)
Najib: Perikatan wanted to dole out HSR jobs directly, cut Singapore out of selection process | Malay Mail https://www.malaymail.com/news/malaysia/202...37yjc8.whatsapp
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This is interesting, change to erl kl-jb with same cost as hsr kl-singapore, at half the speed of hsr.

Same cost but shorter n slower. How comes?
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post Feb 13 2021, 06:04 PM

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QUOTE(ahkit123 @ Jan 4 2021, 11:05 PM)
Sad case.... Now I miss jibby
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Yup, I miss jibby really much too.

Too bad Malaysian unconsciously became the first color revolution victim in Asean countries. Many got cheated by stupid Bersih campaign. Also many NGOs extremely active during that period.

Malaysia - > Hong Kong - > Thailand - > Indonesia and now Myanmar.

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post Feb 13 2021, 06:12 PM

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well Jibby also have some "hand" in the project...
heck any leader in power also same... it's all about the $$$...

Jibby is not that clean like some people thinks...
but he kinda different than others... He "eat" & also "share" the pie to others... just to reduce his "karma".... that's why during his time got many hand outs $$ for various groups....
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post Feb 13 2021, 06:34 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Feb 13 2021, 06:12 PM)
well Jibby also have some "hand" in the project...
heck any leader in power also same... it's all about the $$$...

Jibby is not that clean like some people thinks...
but he kinda different than others... He "eat" & also "share" the pie to others... just to reduce his "karma".... that's why during his time got many hand outs $$ for various groups....
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Yup, jibby is not clean, so do Mr. M? Look at Mr. M's sons and daughter all so filthy rich. Look at LGE son already a famous Paikacai.

So let me ask you is Libya Gaddafi clean? He was a dictator and not clean to many western countries. But he can keep the country peace and well before the west invade his country in the name of so called "human right" and "freedom". Libya use to be one of the beautiful country and quite well developed in North Africa. But after invasion by the west, now the condition there is like hell even after 10+ years.

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post Feb 13 2021, 06:40 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Feb 13 2021, 06:12 PM)
well Jibby also have some "hand" in the project...
heck any leader in power also same... it's all about the $$$...

Jibby is not that clean like some people thinks...
but he kinda different than others... He "eat" & also "share" the pie to others... just to reduce his "karma".... that's why during his time got many hand outs $$ for various groups....
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Whoever said jibby and mamak are clean is nothing but a dumbass, no debate needed.

Btw, it's property thread. Why involved politicians

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post Feb 13 2021, 08:09 PM

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QUOTE(Quang1819 @ Feb 13 2021, 06:40 PM)
Whoever said jibby and mamak are clean is nothing but a dumbass, no debate needed.

Btw, it's property thread. Why involved politicians
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Ask the person above...
Why he go bump this topic with politics tone reply....
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post Feb 13 2021, 08:48 PM

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The issues here is development that have been shelve. Especially this HSR has many impacts on land development along the proposed track.

Really hope it will be revive soon.
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post Feb 13 2021, 09:02 PM

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QUOTE(ahkit123 @ Feb 13 2021, 08:48 PM)
The issues here is development that have been shelve. Especially this HSR has many impacts on land development along the proposed track.

Really hope it will be revive soon.
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It's pretty much politic related. Before PH took over the country, we always have this 5 years plan project. In the world only 3 countries has this 5 year plan of development which are China, Vietnam and Malaysia. Malaysia doing quite ok with 5 years plan development always score up to 70 to 80. Vietnam executed okok only, only China doing best.

After PH took over the country, the 5 years plan has gone down to drain. Only left China and Vietnam doing it only.

I hope too HSR can revive, too much great benefits for Malaysian. because it's a technology for our future generation to learn and master. Just like lrt and monorail, from giving the project to foreign company to do it, we learn it from beside until we can master it.

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QUOTE(Johnsmith1175 @ Feb 13 2021, 10:02 PM)
It's pretty much politic related. Before PH took over the country, we always have this 5 years plan project. In the world only 3 countries has this 5 year plan of development which are China, Vietnam and Malaysia. Malaysia doing quite ok with 5 years plan development always score up to 70 to 80. Vietnam executed okok only, only China doing best.

After PH took over the country, the 5 years plan has down to drain. Only left China and Vietnam doing it only.

I hope too HSR can revive, too much benefits for Malaysian. because it's a technology for our future generation to learn and master. Just like lrt and monorail, from giving the project to foreign company to do it, we learn it from beside until we can master it.
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Ya, KLIA, KLCC, PUTRAJAYA also last time say waste money... But this things have multiplying effects. Create job etc Much better than give out br1m, eWallet, free money bantuan mcm2

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post Feb 14 2021, 03:35 AM

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QUOTE(Johnsmith1175 @ Feb 13 2021, 09:02 PM)
It's pretty much politic related. Before PH took over the country, we always have this 5 years plan project. In the world only 3 countries has this 5 year plan of development which are China, Vietnam and Malaysia. Malaysia doing quite ok with 5 years plan development always score up to 70 to 80. Vietnam executed okok only, only China doing best.

After PH took over the country, the 5 years plan has gone down to drain. Only left China and Vietnam doing it only.

I hope too HSR can revive, too much great benefits for Malaysian. because it's a technology for our future generation to learn and master. Just like lrt and monorail, from giving the project to foreign company to do it, we learn it from beside until we can master it.
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Can't even build a car properly after 40 years and still want to build mrt and hsr?

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post Feb 14 2021, 04:52 AM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Feb 14 2021, 04:35 AM)
Can't even build a car properly after 40 years and still want to build mrt and hsr?
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Isn't building car more difficult technically wise than mrt and hsr? Hahaha.

I think you mean building our own engine for our national cars.


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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Feb 14 2021, 03:35 AM)
Can't even build a car properly after 40 years and still want to build mrt and hsr?
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we don't have big market like Indonesia or Thailand...

anyway...
if really want to be experience & knowledge with rail based industry / technology...
can do JV with technology transfer as main T&C for project awards...

not like previously....
give fully to foreigners companies...

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post Feb 14 2021, 01:58 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Feb 14 2021, 01:43 PM)
we don't have big market like Indonesia or Thailand...

anyway...
if really want to be experience & knowledge with rail based industry / technology...
can do JV with technology transfer as main T&C for project awards...

not like previously....
give fully to foreigners companies...
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What matters is export market not domestic except China, u.s.a and india. Malaysia car market used to be bigger than Thailand and Indonesia.

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post Feb 14 2021, 02:10 PM

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I thought malaysia has the most number of cars within SEA? Correct me if im wrong
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post Feb 14 2021, 02:31 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Feb 14 2021, 03:35 AM)
Can't even build a car properly after 40 years and still want to build mrt and hsr?
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Why not? as long as we get technology transfer other than that we get to improve economy and tourism business with our strategic location in Asean. As least our proton still doing better than holden Australia car.

Do you know that many new subway trains in the USA also made by China company? So why usa can't build it and need China help?

This is one of the China made train in US Boston:
https://youtu.be/k0idwyIPqVQ

China train CRRC bring job opportunities to US Chicago
https://youtu.be/cDaOTdGcWOA

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QUOTE(Johnsmith1175 @ Feb 14 2021, 02:31 PM)
Why not? as long as we get technology transfer other than that we get to improve economy and tourism business with our strategic location in Asean. As least our proton still doing better than holden Australia car.

Do you know that many new subway trains in the USA also made by China company? So why usa can't build it and need China help?

This is one of the China made train in US Boston:
https://youtu.be/k0idwyIPqVQ

China train CRRC bring job opportunities to US Chicago
https://youtu.be/cDaOTdGcWOA
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And you want to build mrt and hsr here?

Do you realize monorail is largely built in this country? How many have been exported?

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QUOTE(Johnsmith1175 @ Feb 14 2021, 03:31 PM)
Why not? as long as we get technology transfer other than that we get to improve economy and tourism business with our strategic location in Asean. As least our proton still doing better than holden Australia car.

Do you know that many new subway trains in the USA also made by China company? So why usa can't build it and need China help?

This is one of the China made train in US Boston:
https://youtu.be/k0idwyIPqVQ

China train CRRC bring job opportunities to US Chicago
https://youtu.be/cDaOTdGcWOA
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China also getting better ie x70... China car. Whichever also can as long efficient n value for money
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Feb 14 2021, 01:58 PM)
What matters is export market not domestic except China, u.s.a and india. Malaysia car market used to be bigger than Thailand and Indonesia.
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agreed...
malaysia market alone is not enough...
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post Feb 14 2021, 05:36 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Feb 14 2021, 03:12 PM)
And you want to build mrt and hsr here?

Do you realize monorail is largely built in this country? How many have been exported?
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Why not? even we can't export we still can have the service maintenance facility line.

So you means can't export better don't do and own? Why Malaysia build lrt and buses here? So How many bus and lrt Malaysia exported? Why you use smartphone and computer then?

So why Indonesia and Thailand also building hsr there?
So how many mrt has Singapore exported?

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