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post Feb 24 2013, 12:55 AM

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With those stops at major cities how can reach 55 minutes KL - Singapore? Possible ah?
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QUOTE(AMINT @ Feb 23 2013, 11:04 PM)
even though i think it is good for the country and investors, this may cause property  price to surge.bad news for us who want to buy more
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Generally, broad increase in price is not a problem to real estate investors as long as rents move up in tandem.

What is happening now is that the rents does not move up vis-a-vis the prices, hence reducing the attractiveness of this investment vehicle.
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post Feb 24 2013, 08:52 AM

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QUOTE(stardust3000 @ Feb 23 2013, 11:36 AM)
If Singaporeans want to do shopping or stay in Malaysia and work in Singapore, they would have shopped and stayed in Johor and not in Kuala Lumpur. Because the time and money spend will be much more expensive. Time travel across the 1.1km bridge would be 30 mins if there is no jam.
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Good point.

Is it really so hard to duplicate a KL shopping mall in JB?
In the Klang Valley, one shopping mall has only a little differentiation to the other.
And if you mention high end shopping, I think Singapore is more high end and has more choices.

And the future is e-commerce, especially with property prices increasing so much. Rental will become a bigger and bigger portion of retail cost. For example, I bought a McLaren baby pram online because its way cheaper than what they sold in a mall. The same thing with books, I buy mostly online. Of course most things still have to be sold in physical stores. But as rental goes higher and higher,and with improving technology, and for convenience sake, that may change.


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post Feb 24 2013, 09:10 AM

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QUOTE(Llchieng @ Feb 24 2013, 12:33 AM)
Property price up up up =refinance to buy more.
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Only will work if refinance could cover the price of new props.
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post Feb 24 2013, 06:00 PM

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Singapore and KL properties will be equalise in terms of price just because of a High Speed Rail???

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post Feb 24 2013, 07:33 PM

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QUOTE(AMINT @ Feb 23 2013, 11:04 PM)
even though i think it is good for the country and investors, this may cause property  price to surge.bad news for us who want to buy more
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Being an eternal optimist I am, I see 2 sides to the equation. On the one hand, property and asset values will surge while on other hand, investments and growth will help create higher value jobs and reduce problems associated with the Middle Income Trap which we are suffering from. No doubt there are other critical issues ie corruption, brain drain etc but its a major step in the right direction.
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QUOTE(zonefinder @ Feb 24 2013, 07:33 PM)
Being an eternal optimist I am, I see 2 sides to the equation. On the one hand, property and asset values will surge while on other hand, investments  and growth will help create higher value jobs and reduce problems associated with the Middle Income Trap which we are suffering from. No doubt there are other critical issues ie corruption, brain drain etc but its a major step in the right direction.
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What kind of timeframe for this to happen? 5 years or 10 years or more?
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QUOTE(AMINT @ Feb 24 2013, 07:43 PM)
What kind of timeframe for this to happen? 5 years or 10 years or more?
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In terms of property getting another fillip, its already happening in Iskandar. Its the other side of the equation that's going to take some time. Not going to happen overnight. Getting these big projects moving is a start. Changing govt policies, mind-sets and ridding corruption so as to retain and attract talents will take a lot more commitment...probably changes. For our folks to start enjoying better paid jobs and economy moving up the value chain will take at least 5 -10 years, possibly more. blush.gif
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post Feb 25 2013, 02:27 AM

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QUOTE(zonefinder @ Feb 24 2013, 09:30 PM)
In terms of property getting another fillip, its already happening in Iskandar. Its the other side of the equation that's going to take some time. Not going to happen overnight. Getting these big projects moving is a start. Changing govt policies, mind-sets and ridding corruption so as to retain and attract talents will take a lot more commitment...probably changes. For our folks to start enjoying better paid jobs and economy moving up the value chain will take at least 5 -10 years, possibly more. blush.gif
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I dont know about you but I am having mixed feelings about this:

1) My current props may surge
2) I cant afford to buy good props after that

The fact is this. Yeah, singaporeans may not buy to stay. But they will buy for investments. This i am pretty sure. Coz some of the props I targeted were snatched by singaporeans and those arent KV props. What do u think will happen after this? I think more negative impact for us, poorer malaysians compared to them.

So the solution? Either our income slowly increase to match their income or we have to work outside of malaysia. Both situations may trigger other consequences in related industries.

Fresh grads, say byebye to good props. huhuhu.
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post Feb 25 2013, 08:48 AM

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But bear in mind that sg buyers can only buy props that are rm500k and above. So poorer msians are not affected. Msians who can afford rm500k above condo should not be considered as poor.
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QUOTE(AMINT @ Feb 25 2013, 02:27 AM)
I dont know about you but I am having mixed feelings about this:

1) My current props may surge
2) I cant afford to buy good props after that

The fact is this. Yeah, singaporeans may not buy to stay. But they will buy for investments. This i am pretty sure. Coz some of the props I targeted were snatched by singaporeans and those arent KV props. What do u think will happen after this? I think more negative impact for us, poorer malaysians compared to them.

So the solution? Either our income slowly increase to match their income or we have to work outside of malaysia. Both situations may trigger other consequences in related industries.

Fresh grads, say byebye to good props. huhuhu.
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Certainly not going to be a one step action where everything rights itself in one go. It will be a process over an extended period. The first stage is the connectivity infrastructure. This will bring in foreign investments as well as reverse slightly domestic ones which previously were going offshore. Next stage will be more uncertain as it will involved changes in mindset, rejection of religious extremism, tukar govt policies ( ie NEP etc)..and eliminate corruption. Brain drain and a lot of our local/domestic money ( big tycoons esp the non bumi ones prefer investing overseas due to lack of transparency and current govt policies) are predicated on the latter whether we agree or not. Again the key point here is to eliminate the Middle Income Trap which is the consequence of all the stuff which I mentioned earlier.
Investors like us where we have already built a base ie we have properties in hand, will welcome the surge due to these mega projects over the next 5-10years. Beyond that only God knows...

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QUOTE(leeboy @ Feb 25 2013, 08:48 AM)
But bear in mind that sg buyers can only buy props that are rm500k and above. So poorer msians are not affected. Msians who can afford rm500k above condo should not be considered as poor.
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Now sub RM500K are the minorities. Mostly RM500K and above. Even PR1MA also targeted just slightly below RM500K for landed
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QUOTE(zonefinder @ Feb 25 2013, 11:18 AM)
Certainly not going to be a one step action where everything rights itself in one go. It will be a process over an extended period. The first stage is the connectivity infrastructure. This will bring in foreign investments as well as reverse slightly domestic ones which previously were going offshore. Next stage will be more uncertain as it will involved changes in mindset, rejection of religious extremism, tukar govt policies ( ie NEP etc)..and eliminate corruption. Brain drain and a lot of our local/domestic money ( big tycoons esp the non bumi ones prefer investing overseas due to lack of transparency and current govt policies) are predicated on the latter whether we agree or not. Again the key point here is to eliminate the Middle Income Trap which is the consequence of all the stuff which I mentioned earlier.
Investors like us where we have already built a base ie we have properties in hand, will welcome the surge due to these mega projects over the next 5-10years. Beyond that only God knows...
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lets wait and see how it goes.
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QUOTE(leeboy @ Feb 25 2013, 08:48 AM)
But bear in mind that sg buyers can only buy props that are rm500k and above. So poorer msians are not affected. Msians who can afford rm500k above condo should not be considered as poor.
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Our G should increase minimum price for purchases of properties by foreigners from the existing to 800k-1M
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post Feb 25 2013, 07:15 PM

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QUOTE(jepakazoid_82 @ Feb 24 2013, 01:55 AM)
With those stops at major cities how can reach 55 minutes KL - Singapore? Possible ah?
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I would think the Non-Stop Service is the one that will be able to reach in 55 minutes.

If you look at the Planning Map carefully, the Main Stop from Sgp is at KLIA. KL City Centre is just a Phase One Stop, being equal to an Inter-City Stop.

Hence, first effect may fall on properties surrounding Cyberjaya and Putrajaya.

I wonder where will the Main Stop be located in Penang for this Non-Stop Service.

Anything can happen in 5 years - so, just be careful before taking any proactive actions.
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post Feb 28 2013, 02:31 PM

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Now i'm curious which developer is going to get the project? hmm.gif

My personal opinion is YTL corp since they has done all the feasibility studies back to year 2006
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QUOTE(ost1007 @ Feb 28 2013, 02:31 PM)
Now i'm curious which developer is going to get the project? hmm.gif

My personal opinion is YTL corp since they has done all the feasibility studies back to year 2006
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Syed Mokhtar is coming in.. YTL not chance liao la...
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post Feb 28 2013, 05:18 PM

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Anybody have idea where this HighSpeed Rail will stop in KL ?
I believe i might end at Permaisuri Station as currently already have STAR/KTM/ERL there..any clue on this ?

QUOTE(mini126 @ Feb 28 2013, 03:13 PM)
Syed Mokhtar is coming in.. YTL not chance liao la...
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post Feb 28 2013, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(gsw8895 @ Feb 28 2013, 05:18 PM)
Anybody have idea where this HighSpeed Rail will stop in KL ?
I believe i might end  at Permaisuri Station as currently already have STAR/KTM/ERL there..any clue on this ?
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If YTL get the project, most likely will build at Sentul/Jalan Ipoh there. As I know government has plan to build central bus terminal in part of future development in Jalan Ipoh....

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