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 Samsung Galaxy S4 (S IV?), The New King of Android?

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post Mar 15 2013, 01:36 PM

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QUOTE(giovanni @ Mar 15 2013, 01:12 PM)
Yeah, they do look good. But, I doubt so if your displaying those pics on slightly bigger screens. Say on a 19 inch monitor or bigger. I'm just afraid it might lose the details that I want. Not saying the quality is bad. Just that my eyes are now pampered by higher res pics/videos captured by higher res cameraphones. I did a playback of videos captured by my missus' Note 2 on my 42 inch samsung smart tv the other day. So crisp, sharp and nice. If HTC One can do that too, I'm sold!
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4MP was enough for 1080P display, even 2560 in my Nexus 10.

QUOTE(FrostLance @ Mar 15 2013, 01:22 PM)
only starts to lose detail when u zoom ler..

the size of 4 MP is already above 1080p ler
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Exactly, and I seldom zoom, nor-matter how great the phone camera are, zoom still suck, want zoom, only optical capable of.
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post Mar 15 2013, 01:37 PM

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QUOTE(FrostLance @ Mar 15 2013, 01:30 PM)
yeah if u crop above 200% and i was talking about still images..
Tell me do u use a 4k monitor? if not no major difference. The most important thing for images are detail and image quality. MP is a myth unless u use 4k monitors or printing banners.
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4k monitor no la. So displaying on ipad 3/4 no difference too? You're the expert here. Do fill me in. If no difference then it allays my fear. smile.gif
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QUOTE(giovanni @ Mar 15 2013, 01:29 PM)
I know about the video being 1080p already bro. It's my fault for using video as illustration. Maybe stick to still image. Displaying still image on big screen/high res screen like Ipad 3 or Nexus 10 you can tell the difference.
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I think you're clearly talking about pixel peeping, a term used when you're zooming into an image. If that's the case, surely a higher resolution image would be way better.

But please bear in mind, as most are still confused with, megapixels and image quality/detail are two very different things. Don't get them mixed up smile.gif
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post Mar 15 2013, 01:38 PM

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QUOTE(jason111785 @ Mar 15 2013, 01:35 PM)
I guess its be fair to compare still pictures on typical hi-res monitor aka 27"/30" 2560x1600 res... then we can see whether ultrapixel matters or higher MPs matters.
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well u have d800e if u want high res pictures.. why would u need a camera phone to shoot high res pics.. to me 8 mp is enough... they need to focus on Image quality, sharpness ,low light capabilities and low noise...

Thats more important for a camera... arguing about MP is doh.gif

u dont go zooming in 300-400% on FB pics do you? What else would u use camera phones for? Professional photography? lol.. I use a 12mp Fujifilm X100 for wedding and street photogs lol

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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Mar 15 2013, 01:36 PM)
4MP was enough for 1080P display, even 2560 in my Nexus 10.
Exactly, and I seldom zoom, nor-matter how great the phone camera are, zoom still suck, want zoom, only optical capable of.
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Great news then. I rest my case
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post Mar 15 2013, 01:39 PM

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QUOTE(-kytz- @ Mar 15 2013, 01:37 PM)
I think you're clearly talking about pixel peeping, a term used when you're zooming into an image. If that's the case, surely a higher resolution image would be way better.

But please bear in mind, as most are still confused with, megapixels and image quality/detail are two very different things. Don't get them mixed up smile.gif
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QUOTE(FrostLance @ Mar 15 2013, 02:38 PM)
well u have d800e if u want high red pictures.. why would u need a camera phone to shoot high res pics.. to me 8 mp is enough... they need to focus on Image quality, sharpness ,low light capabilities and low noise...

Thats more important for a camera... arguing about MP is  doh.gif

u dont go zooming in 300-400% on FB pics do you? What else would u use camera phones for? Professional photography? lol.. I use a 12mp Fujifilm X100 for wedding and street photogs lol
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that's my whole point... displaying the shootout in a hi-res monitor and see which one actually capture sharper pics and I'm not typical consumer that go for the XX MP...
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QUOTE(jason111785 @ Mar 15 2013, 01:41 PM)
that's my whole point... displaying the shootout in a hi-res monitor and see which one actually capture sharper pics and I'm not typical consumer that go for the XX MP...
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So there's difference?
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QUOTE(FrostLance @ Mar 15 2013, 01:38 PM)
well u have d800e if u want high res pictures.. why would u need a camera phone to shoot high res pics.. to me 8 mp is enough... they need to focus on Image quality, sharpness ,low light capabilities and low noise...

Thats more important for a camera... arguing about MP is  doh.gif

u dont go zooming in 300-400% on FB pics do you? What else would u use camera phones for? Professional photography? lol.. I use a 12mp Fujifilm X100 for wedding and street photogs lol
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I dont have a camera. So I use my cameraphone all the time. Or course the sharper the better.
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QUOTE(giovanni @ Mar 15 2013, 02:42 PM)
So there's difference?
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If the photos are only for your "eye" on typical HD monitors / Hi-Res monitors/ phone or tablet... 3-4MP is pretty much showing your enough clarify.. but if you are gonna blow the pics to building size banner etc... u gonna need a very high pixel density pictures... I worked in creative agency before and I understand that typical printout for magazine or A2 size posters.. you need minimum 300 dpi photos.. I'm not sure how much ultrapixel can capture then...
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QUOTE(giovanni @ Mar 15 2013, 01:45 PM)
I dont have a camera. So I use my cameraphone all the time. Or course the sharper the better.
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higher megapixel =/= sharper.. i think u got the whole concept wrong..
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QUOTE(FrostLance @ Mar 15 2013, 02:46 PM)
higher megapixel =/= sharper.. i think u got the whole concept wrong..
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thats there the pixel density comes into play... normally we need at least 300dpi pictures to blow into A2 without any distortion. Ultrapixel is using the more "pixel" captured vs. 13mp rival like s4...
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QUOTE(LordDenning @ Mar 15 2013, 01:33 PM)
*facepalm* Facepalm of the highest level. This logic, i don't even know where to begin with.

"dents are usually only visible if the phone is made of metal." MIND BLOWING LOGIC.
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you have something against that statement/ logic?

having used 'plastic' phones, i am happy that countless drops, and i dun have a dent. and i like my phone dent free. so, you have a problem with phones made of plastic? then go somewhere else. this is S4 thread. fact is: s4 is made of 'plastic' as many puts it.

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QUOTE(mydragoon @ Mar 15 2013, 01:49 PM)
you something wrong with that?

having used 'plastic' phones, i am happy that countless drops, and i dun have a dent. and i like my phone dent free. so, you have a problem with phones made of plastic? then go somewhere else. this is S4 thread. fact is: s4 is made of 'plastic' as many puts it.
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QUOTE(FrostLance @ Mar 15 2013, 01:46 PM)
higher megapixel =/= sharper.. i think u got the whole concept wrong..
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QUOTE(giovanni @ Mar 15 2013, 01:52 PM)
Layman here. Fill me in bro.
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lol refer to htc one thread.. i quoted u there.. this is S4 thread maybe we should reply there
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QUOTE(jason111785 @ Mar 15 2013, 01:49 PM)
thats there the pixel density comes into play... normally we need at least 300dpi pictures to blow into A2 without any distortion. Ultrapixel is using the more "pixel" captured vs. 13mp rival like s4...
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i guess the pixel density is only true if one wants to crop a certain part of the photo and then blow it up. and they are measured in ppi, not dpi which stands for dot (used in physical print).

otherwise, if taking the whole photo without cropping and printing it somewhere... then higher pixel count is more important (like 4mp camera vs 42mp camera), right?
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i just saw the whole s4 presentation.

no mention about photo sphere althought its 4.2.2?
its that feature a nexus line exclusive?
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post Mar 15 2013, 01:59 PM

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QUOTE(Dannyl @ Mar 15 2013, 12:29 PM)
S4 offers a lot of new stuff that I can see.  IR Blaster, Smart Pause, built-in pedometer, etc.  It will be a worthy upgrade to the dual-core phone owners of two generations ago (and maybe new smartphone / iOS owners), maybe not so much for current S4 owners.
There's also the other side of the coin - herd mentality.  During your 'study', does the average Joe demonstrate a strong sense of independent decision-making (I will not buy S4), or does he go with the flow (I bought S3 becos everybody had one)?

I suspect a lot of people had individual opinions in the beginning but eventually succumbs to perceived societal and peer pressure in order to blend in.  Public acceptance is so important these days, especially to the younger crowd (Gen Y and younger).
Ah Latin.  The only Latin I know is 'carpe diem et memento mori'.  Luckily there's Google tongue.gif

That's true, but the fear of rejection by peers make some people accept whatever others are preaching.  Is there Latin phrase for that?  hmm.gif
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My study is not as articulate as I would wish it to be. However, to delve into the realm of what you raised would digress the whole thread which will be frowned upon.

However, nay a conclusion can be reached when it comes to the human behavior.So, whilst in certain decisions, the herd mentality is prevalent, in others, it could be non-existent. So, who's to say what one thinks of under different situations?

My hope is that when they voice their opinion, they do so with some 'before-thoughts'.
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Guess i will decide when im able to test out both phones physically..

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