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post May 7 2013, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(jeschong @ May 7 2013, 11:07 AM)
these prices ok ma if the shop near to ur house
btw, can u check the price of hankook v12 when u go to the shop next time?
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Most likely will not go there so soon. I don't wanna poison myself first before I think through it. I was there to change bulb for my wife's waja. So I accidentally bumped into this wide range of Lenso at the back of the shop. So I suka suka ask for the price. I have not gone into real discussion yet. Might be able to squeeze a little more.

I am perplexed to choose which tyre to go for. The Atlantis V7 that we have now is just too noise, handling gives way some times, not really grippy on wet surface (tried that out when KL/ Cheras was raining elephants and rhino). I will drive to Alor Setar for a friend's wedding at the end of the year. I migt pass the border to change rims and tyre. Lenso this shop got is from Thai.
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post May 7 2013, 11:24 AM

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QUOTE(KiyoshiJoz @ May 7 2013, 11:17 AM)
this is the price inclusive of rims and tyres after trading in stock?
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The price is raw price of each tire without considering any trade in. The rim price is 1450 without trade in.
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post May 7 2013, 11:28 AM

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QUOTE(bennedict82 @ May 7 2013, 11:15 AM)
I think GY Assymetry F1 is from German. It has good reviews from global.

Think twice before you change to lighter RIM. Lenso is quite light. Lighter RIM make you drive better in city but not highway. With my lighther rim, I need to accelerate more because no momentum. But when you drive in City, it can simply move especially you move from stop point.

If you always travel on highway, not necessary to change.
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Besides the money, this is the point that I am thinking too. I am a 80-90% highway driver. Or I will try to drive more on highway and avoid city drive. The Lenso is 8kg. The stock is around 10kg? I have discarded the idea of changing rims earlier on, but this kind of poison will come poke you once in a while. The price that I accidentally got yesterday just ignited the will to change. I think it is a good price.
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post May 7 2013, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(bennedict82 @ May 7 2013, 12:55 PM)
I see. Personally, I felt the performance degraded on highway drive after I changed to Lenso Project D-Spec C. This is not the most beautiful but is the lighter compare to other lenso. The tyre shop let me try all the weight. But City Drive is good. It move faster from pickup and braking also easier. Compare to stock rim, not easy to break.

http://www.lensowheel.com/Raiden-Sub-Brand...?SubCatID=20007

Then later, I installed firestorm -> I can feel this device give me more power on highway drive. Just accelerate and once stable, the car keep moving without constant accelerate. smile.gif
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The Samurai Azura is one of it that I am aiming. For Lenso, I cannot find what I saw yesterday in the website. Will really need to consider as I will not want to change for the worse. Braking ease is one of my consideration. Momentum not big enough for highway drive? Or it is the tire's matter?

Firestorm I will pass. I will change filter and plugs 1st.
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post May 7 2013, 03:00 PM

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QUOTE(laihuhng @ May 7 2013, 02:49 PM)
Anyone knows if the bodykit given free by the SA is original or aftermarket part???

I was told that all are aftermarket. Is it true???
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I don't think Kia do any body kits. So all body kits are after market?
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post May 7 2013, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(dvinez @ May 7 2013, 03:36 PM)
all aftermarket, it is considered as a gift from sa
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I heard that sone of us negotiated for a change of money instead of theBK. Ask SA to give in cash, look for your own BK.
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post May 7 2013, 05:09 PM

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QUOTE(laihuhng @ May 7 2013, 04:17 PM)
Thanks. Still wondering if getting Forte is the right choice. Tested the 1.6 model, feel a bit sluggish to move from stagnant. For sure it's going to impact hard on the fuel consumption.
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I have been driving a 2.0 for almost 2 months. Never regretted buying it. I am a bloody kiasi fellow so I have read through all the threads in reverse manner from thread V16 that time. I decided to place booking after I have finished V10 and some of the S'pore threads, international reviews, discussing with open minded friends. I did those and I know what to expect out of the car. You should do that too, because if you are expecting a BMW build, you will bound for disappointment.

My comments on the car:-

Good

1) Very very fun to drive especially with the paddle shift (2.0 do not need to change to triptronic mode to downshift)
2) Lots of practical gadgets to play with (love the bluetooth connectivity, MDPS, chromatic rear view mirror, rear view camera). Don't know how to drive without them now
3) Safety (TC saved me once conciously)
4) Fuel consumption for me is currently 12km/l - 12.5km/l using RON95. 80% H, 20% C, with highway vroom vroom at constant 110 - 130km/h, daily 20 minutes light jam in total before and after work
5) Do not know why but the car boosted my ego (not sure if this is good)
6) Stable handling at high speed (maybe it is because the car is heavy)
7) Quiet cabin (barely hear engine noise from cabin at stagnant)
8) Cannot stop looking at it when I am at home and cannot wait to drive her back during off work
9) Lots of hidden features (not published) which might save you in some of the times

Bad

1) If I were to do step by step car upgrade the next time (to D segment), I am not sure if any other brand car can give me the same gadgets, driving assistance and safety without poking a hole in my wallet
2) SpeedNavi GPS is not that great but can make it to PAPAGO
3) No auto up side window
4) Bloody noisy, hard tyre
5) Car tend to flex too much to my liking, affected the my braking style, but I fixed it with foaming
6) Rear absorber too soft to my liking but considering my parents and my future boss (my kids) sitting at the back, better dont touch it. Else can be fixed with the spring cushion at rm 38 (plug and play)

There are a few mild mods that I will want to do (filter and plugs). All plug and play which most of the forumer here claimed that it gave possitive effect. If you need more push, go read our first page. It has all the reason for you to buy a Forte. At that price, maybe more expensive, you buy ToyVi & HonCi & Maz2 & NisAl. Those supposed to be good car (not to say problem free), but they are too honest. All of them are B segment with smaller internal cabin size, kosong car. I am glad I did not choose any of that. All and all, I will be having kids soon and I just want a safe car to drive in. Sh*t happens on the road and there is a reason why they call it accident.

Lastly, your money, your car, your choice.

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post May 7 2013, 06:20 PM

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QUOTE(jeschong @ May 7 2013, 06:07 PM)
i love essay  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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Aiyak...kena pegang tim shocking.gif cry.gif
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post May 7 2013, 09:13 PM

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QUOTE(zerohunter @ May 7 2013, 07:50 PM)
the car is already fun to drive in stock condition, in my case, after i add in

16' rim + tires - go through potholes with more confident and speed compare to 17'
firestorm - no more sluggish, gear changing is smoother (auto)
chassis foam - more comfortable when go on yellow line and bump, close to conti feel
filter + spark plug - a slight boost in performance? still monitoring tongue.gif
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Where do you do chasis foam? How much? Noise level better now?
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post May 7 2013, 09:53 PM

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Ah...I was there for chasis foam too. Under the seats' road noise reduced, but boot very noisy now. Vibration wise, car became bumpier cz less flex. Handling definitely better. Cornering better, braking better. Yellow line less obvious but if go through the big yellow line from Kelana Jaya to Canon bridge, ass still pain. Will go do boot treatment next.
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post May 7 2013, 10:33 PM

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QUOTE(zerohunter @ May 7 2013, 10:01 PM)
update us after doing the boot treatment, my next treatment is the wheel arch
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Hehe. You update us on the wheel arch treatment. When are you doing it? Hehe. If you go do first and things are good, I might do fender first like you.
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post May 7 2013, 11:31 PM

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QUOTE(bennedict82 @ May 7 2013, 11:07 PM)
Hi Can I know your average speed from odometer? the unit is km/h
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Highway speeding 100-140 (20 min a day)

City driving 20 - 80 (10 min a day)

Jam 0 - 30 (30 min a day)

I accelerate slowly on all occasions, AC at comfy level.

And I don't read tge FC direct from tacho. I do manual read, pump, read, calculate method.

All the above are info for working days. 0800 go work, 1830 off work.

Weekdays 95% highway.

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post May 8 2013, 08:10 AM

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[quote=laihuhng,May 8 2013, 07:28 AM]
[quote=lingleeyen,May 7 2013, 05:09 PM]

Nice info. Thanks. rclxms.gif

Need to clarify a few things.
3) No auto up side window
- Oh, I thought I read somewhere says YES. Luckily you highlighted. Thanks.

4) Bloody noisy, hard tyre
- Did you change them??? A lot better???

6) Rear absorber too soft to my liking but considering my parents and my future boss (my kids) sitting at the back, better dont touch it. Else can be fixed with the spring cushion at rm 38 (plug and play)
- Spring cushion??? Get it from where???
I own a City now. The car treats me well all these years and I'm a big fan of H. Still hesitate whether or not to jump ship. tongue.gif
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No auto UP. Only auto DOWN. Not a problem for me as I came from saga last time. Good car that lasted me 5 years and still no problem till the minute I sell her. Miss it much sometimes. Hope that the new owner treats her well.

I have not changed them. Still scouting for he best balance in performance + comfort + price. A colleague changed to PS3 and a friend change to GY Assymetry F1. Both has significant noise reduce. Performance do not know because I do not want to get behind other people's cockpit. Another friend who came from Kenari however says that the noise is very acceptable even after 10 months of driving. He even says it is not noisy when I asked for his opinion before I buy. I guess it is subjective.

Spring cushion can get everywhere. Online also can buy. Just need to scout around.

If the car is treating you well, no point pushing for a new car because he has she has. Unless the H is giving you problem, or you are planning to upgrade yourself be it practical upgrade, safety upgrade, status upgrade, self feel good upgrade. For me, it is all the above.
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post May 8 2013, 02:29 PM

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QUOTE(jeschong @ May 8 2013, 10:28 AM)
may i know whether u do the whole car including door sill etc or only undercarriage center and rear foam?
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I did only the undercarriage centre and rear. Front don't want to do because if accident, impact will transfer to driver. That is also the reason why Forte's front has 2 layer, for impact absorbtion.

Did not do the door sill as I already feel that my car is already bumpy. Doing the door sill will further reduce the flex. Might be too hard for me. If this is plug and play ok la. This one once in is permenant. Cannot reverse. So I do not think I will want to do door sill.
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QUOTE(ohde @ May 8 2013, 02:03 PM)
i have enjoyed reading your sharing  thumbup.gif
quite regret i've chosen 1.6 instead of 2.0  sweat.gif
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1.6 I believe is good enough for my daily drive. I drive like unker anyway. If I have driven a 2.0 and I own a 1.6, the only thing I will miss is the paddle shift working without needing to change the lever and if kena cucuk once every 2 weeks I have a chance to run away. Anyway, you will need to give way to any of the VW (except Polo Sedan), the fast coming Peug and Preve (might be with turbo), the carzy driving P1 & P2 (not all but some realy is...).
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post May 8 2013, 05:27 PM

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QUOTE(jeschong @ May 8 2013, 04:54 PM)
bumpier after did the undercarriage centre and rear foam?
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Yes, bumpier is what I felt after 2 weeks of driving. Flexing allows the car to flex around on uneven road, therefore you feel less of the bumpy. When you foam your car, it became sturty, less flexy, and this non-flexy translate into bumpy, because instead of flexing around the uneven-ness, the car goes through in one 'shape'.

his however helps cornering when you have less flexy. You feel less 'terbuang', hence more confidence. I like how it feel now when it goes over bumps in compared to before foam.

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QUOTE(ohde @ May 8 2013, 05:20 PM)
i'm still happy with 1.6 but i think if Forte come with 1.8 will be more balance for the power to weight ratio.
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Well, nothing is perfect. I am surprise that they brought in 1.6 and not 1.8. But readig on the history, they might be doing that to counter HoCi, ToVi.
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QUOTE(hjh87 @ May 9 2013, 09:25 PM)
Hey guy,

My sis just get herself a 1.6SX Forte on April 2013, she went for 1st 1000km service at NS AUTO USJ S/B. After this servicing she feel that the car seem like abit heavy in term the acceleration not as smooth as before servicing. Any idea what went wrong?? By the way, our hometown is in east coast of peninsular that why we hit 1000km within a month.
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I hit 1k in 1.5 weeks. 2nd day already 300.

I also feel the same when I go first service in Kinrara SC. I am sure that they are using Syntium 3000, but I am not sure if they are using 5w30 or 5w40. I did not go check back then because i was busy verifying if they pour in 4 litre or 3.9 litre at that time. At that time I thought the slugginess come from the excessive fuel amount. I will give them a call some day to verify. You should too.
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post May 10 2013, 10:45 PM

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QUOTE(hjh87 @ May 10 2013, 10:32 PM)
Thanks for the feedback, will ask my sis to verify with the service center again. By the way, the 5w30 or 5w40 used for the engine really affect the acceleration  that much?? So which is the correct one to use??
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From what I read in version 4 or 5 thread, the correct one is 5w30. They use syntium 3000 which is developed specially for Forte. All other Syntium 3000 out there is 5w40. I have yet to rectofy this too.
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post May 11 2013, 11:14 AM

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QUOTE(craxors @ May 11 2013, 11:08 AM)
What about 1000 15w50...also fully sync..can use or not??
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Go google and read about that is 5,30,40,10,50. Identify the difference n decide.

Of course can use. Mineral also can use. What grade also can use. But it affects performance la.

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