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bobafett
post Mar 25 2025, 11:11 AM

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KWSP needs more deposits?

bobafett
post Jun 18 2025, 09:56 AM

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https://www.nst.com.my/business/corporate/2...tion-shift-bttv

EPF steps up retirement reforms ahead of ageing nation shift
bobafett
post Jun 30 2025, 10:01 PM

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QUOTE(Rinth @ Jun 20 2025, 10:17 AM)
Yes, everyone will have health insurance thru EPF, and suddenly if became affordable, even RM 5k also considered affordable in future because as per the minister says :-

"A small percentage can be used for insurance payment. They won't even feel it, as it doesn't come out of their pocket. It's from the EPF. This is the best way. Eventually, our people will have coverage like in Singapore. But we can't force it," he said.

DOESN"T Come out of their pocket, its from EPF.......he deemed that the money in EPF is not yours unless you're at retired age lol.....tsk tsk tsk no wonder so many ppl yolo and ask for withdrawal asap because only when its withdrawn, then only it consider is yours.
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Follow Singapore again. Good luck to all.

Put more money in KWSP for old age.



bobafett
post Jun 30 2025, 10:23 PM

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The 1.361 mil.

They based on 24 yo, salary $2.5K, saves $400 per month. For next 32 yrs, until 60 yo.


* assume no salary increment, bonus & inflation (cancels each other(


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post Jul 10 2025, 09:53 AM

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Those who are near 55 , EPF is liquid as they access all 3 accounts after 55.

Deposit as much as you can if you are near 55.

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post Jul 10 2025, 06:19 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Jul 10 2025, 12:41 PM)
If you do that, just be aware of the age 55,for once you reached 55, all new deposits will be locked till 60
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Ok. After 55 , must think 2x . Because it will be lock till 60. 😓
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post Jul 11 2025, 09:17 AM

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QUOTE(Wedchar2912 @ Jul 10 2025, 06:23 PM)
It's only the contributions into EPF after age 55 that is locked until 60.

So not that bad really.
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Yes. We want to remind others in case they forgot.


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post Aug 1 2025, 01:07 PM

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They can lock eg RM200K of your EPF money when one reaches 55 yo.

Let it compound for 10 yrs, at 5.5%.

It will be around RM 340K when you are 65 yo

From 65 yo to 85 yo (20 yrs drawdown). Interest at 5.5%

Drawdown monthly = RM 2,3xx per month
bobafett
post Aug 1 2025, 01:09 PM

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This example is for those who turns 55 yo in 2025

They can based on inflation rate and increase the amount if one turns 55 yo in 2026 and so on so forth.
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post Aug 1 2025, 09:24 PM

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QUOTE(virtualgay @ Aug 1 2025, 03:14 PM)
390k as per RIA framework
200k is just too low
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Madani have been saying many members don’t have money inside EPF for the longest time.

How many % of members even have RM200K? And we expect double of that $390K.

In such case, when they reach 55 yo, they only can withdraw like RM5K as a token like CPF, the rest of the amount locked another 10yrs.

Start monthly payout after that .
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post Aug 4 2025, 11:01 AM

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QUOTE(Thrust @ Aug 2 2025, 06:41 AM)
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https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=ST&f...ost&p=111972276



They can lock eg RM200K of your EPF money when one reaches 55 yo.

Let it compound for 10 yrs, at 5.5%.

It will be around RM 340K when you are 65 yo

From 65 yo to 85 yo (20 yrs drawdown). Interest at 5.5%

Drawdown monthly = RM 2,3xx per month
bobafett
post Aug 4 2025, 03:19 PM

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Is this new?
Monthly withdrawal.

https://www.kwsp.gov.my/en/member/life-stag...5-60-withdrawal


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post Aug 4 2025, 03:43 PM

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OK. Can change to Annnuity plan




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post Aug 4 2025, 04:32 PM

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In normal day to day living, when you retire and grow older, the lesser you spend.

Except for medical.

If you have RM2.5 million, with 5% interest, you can use the online calculator and simulate a drawdown per month.



RM 2.5 mil, at 5% interest at 65 yo. Draw down 35yrs till 100 yo.

You can withdraw $12,440 per month (420 payments)

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post Oct 21 2025, 09:28 AM

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Mercer CFA Institute Global Pension Index 2025




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post Oct 21 2025, 09:32 AM

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If they give low dividend, those above 55 will withdraw & move to other place or currency.

Below 55 will not put so much inside which is not attractive.

They can give dividend. Got problem to print more RM?

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post Oct 28 2025, 01:10 PM

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Once the price went up. Hardly any price will come down.

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post Nov 3 2025, 01:16 PM

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QUOTE(romuluz777 @ Nov 2 2025, 05:22 PM)
Testing / trial balloon


A "trial balloon" is a proposal or idea made public to gauge public reaction before committing to it fully.
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post Nov 11 2025, 01:25 PM

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QUOTE(magika @ Nov 8 2025, 11:19 AM)
Contribution rate should also be changed following cpf model employer 17% employee 20% . One shot changed all the grouses about low epf balances. No other policies can do it.
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CPF Contribution have annual salary cap or max contribution.
If follow CPF, then EPF giving 2.5% and 4% interest, EPF members can accept?






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post Nov 11 2025, 01:33 PM

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QUOTE(virtualgay @ Nov 10 2025, 01:46 PM)
KUALA LUMPUR: The Employees Provident Fund (EPF) has been central to Malaysia's retirement system, ensuring financial security for workers.

Yet economists warn that longer lifespans, higher healthcare costs, and mounting financial pressures may test its sustainability.

Certified Shariah Advisor (CSA) and Islamic Financial Planner (IFP) Dr Mohamed Hadi Abd Hamid said the EPF's structure must reflect the financial and demographic realities of modern times.

"A sustainable mechanism such as structured monthly payments will help prevent retirees from depleting their savings too quickly.

"It is not only an economic reform but a moral one, ensuring that those who have contributed to the nation's growth can retire with dignity," said Mohamed Hadi.

This evolving challenge has prompted the government to consider a major reform, introducing a monthly pension-style withdrawal scheme under the 13th Malaysia Plan (RMK13).

Announced earlier this year, the proposed scheme would split members' savings into two parts: a flexible portion accessible at age 55 and a dedicated pension component providing monthly payments for life or until the balance is exhausted.

The aim is to create lasting income stability while preserving individual choice.
According to the Ministry of Finance, contributors should ideally have RM240,000 by 55 to receive roughly RM1,700 a month for 20 years.

Yet most Malaysians retire with less than RM50,000, a sum that often lasts only a few years.

To address this, the government is studying a dual-structure model where one portion of EPF savings remains accessible upon retirement, while another is reserved for structured monthly payouts.

Deputy Finance Minister Lim Hui Ying recently clarified that existing members will retain their current rights, with the new structure applying automatically to future contributors while remaining optional for others.

In practice, the model could be flexible enough to suit various retirement goals. For instance, a contributor with RM53,000 at 55 could withdraw RM250 monthly while preserving capital, or RM500 a month for about 12 years.

Meanwhile, for those with RM500,000, monthly payments of RM2,500 could be sustained without eroding the principal entirely.

"This dual structure provides both freedom and stability. It recognises that while some flexibility is necessary, many contributors need a system that protects them from outliving their savings.

"It also nurtures financial discipline, an essential element of retirement security," said INCEIF University Centre of Excellence for Research and Innovation in Islamic Economics (i-RISE) interim director Dr Mohd Zaidi Md Zabri.

By 2040, one in five Malaysians will be aged 60 or older.

Without reform, Mohd Zaidi believes the nation risks a generation of retirees without adequate income, creating heavier social and economic burdens.

"The proposed monthly pension option under RMK13 is therefore not merely an economic initiative.

"It is a national responsibility and a moral commitment to protect workers who have dedicated their lives to building the country," he added.
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Life exectancy Malaysia
https://open.dosm.gov.my/dashboard/life-expectancy
Male: 73.1 years
Female: 77.9 years


And 10 years before that, many illness kicks in (Meaning at 63.1 / 67.9 years old)

When can retire, and reach 55 , enjoy your EPF savings. You don't have many years to enjoy

Travel insurance also susah and expensive.

Why work so hard, save money, refuse to spend, and help fund the doctors, biopharma companies.










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