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post Feb 25 2023, 07:27 PM

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QUOTE(Cubalagi @ Feb 25 2023, 06:20 PM)
Thats why, for me, I dont withdraw from epf coz knowing its good. But at the same time, I dont add more via self contribution, prefering to diversify my retirement portfolio.
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Last year i added RM60k. This year i’m not going to add more except i-saraan RM2k. bruce.gif
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post Feb 27 2023, 09:49 AM

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QUOTE(Rinth @ Feb 27 2023, 09:45 AM)
not many ppl have the luxury to invest in overseas asset , or have much knowledge to invest overseas......i've mentioned it somewhere before in the forum..... of course those had been doing it will say that its not hard and its easy to it.....
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If there is a will there is a way

Even lowyat has many resources on how to open an overseas acc
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post Feb 27 2023, 12:59 PM

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Another joker ask for epf withdrawal age increase from 55 to 60 vmad.gif

Datuk Dr. Syed Hussain states further that “MEF stands by its earlier support of the decision of YAB Dato’ Seri Anwar of not allowing further withdrawal of EPF savings but look at other alternative ways to assist those impacted by covid 19 pandemic and big floods. MEF appreciates the bold decision and the political will of the Unity Government of not allowing further EPF withdrawals prior to attaining age of retirement. The decision will go a long way to ensure the long-term sustainability of EPF savings for old age. Without further withdrawals EPF contributors would be able to attain minimum level of RM 280,000 EPF savings on attaining the age of retirement. With minimum savings of RM 280,000 at age of retirement the retiree will be assured of minimum of RM 1,555 per month to use up to age 75 years.”

“To address adequacy and sustainability of EPF savings upon retirement it is critical that withdrawal should only be allowed upon reaching the age of retirement at 60. It is therefore critical that the current policy of allowing one third withdrawal upon 50 years and withdrawal of all EPF savings at age 55 be reviewed. Since retirement age was raised from 55 to 60 years in 2013, it is no longer relevant for EPF to allow members to withdraw the EPF savings upon reaching 55 years. Withdrawal of EPF savings should be synchronised.”

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https://www.mef.org.my/news/pr_article.aspx?@ID=188



ikanbilis
post Feb 27 2023, 01:28 PM

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QUOTE(xander2k8 @ Feb 27 2023, 01:24 PM)
That is why they should stay out of it

Their main is goal is further improve productivity and GDP instead of butting into other issues that is not being relevant to them

But from the statement you can see them being shoelicker to PMX while trying to get away from certain taxes that is bound hit them soon 👏
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Shoelicker… i like this word. This is also my impression when i first saw the article. biggrin.gif
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post Mar 3 2023, 03:58 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Mar 3 2023, 03:57 PM)
So announcement today,
$$$ credit tomorrow Saturday  rclxm9.gif
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Monday Kwsp bersasar devil.gif
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post Mar 4 2023, 01:09 PM

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QUOTE(Wolves @ Mar 4 2023, 01:07 PM)
Talk so much for what. I just want to see dividend. I taking a break from live. Go out puff a bit then come back. I don't think he is finishing anytime soon
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Ceo talk so much but all comments only want kwsp bersasar! devil.gif
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post Mar 4 2023, 01:21 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Mar 4 2023, 01:17 PM)
That's the only positive side 🙏

Quite knowledge fellow
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Who cares you knowledgeable or not. Rakyat only want kwsp bersasar! devil.gif
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post Mar 4 2023, 01:49 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Mar 4 2023, 01:48 PM)
was expecting around 5 after so-called sources mention it's not be good numbers...
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Let everyone expectations down from 4.8 to 5.1. When actual announcement 5.35% everyone will think wow kwsp is doing a good job!
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post Mar 4 2023, 02:00 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Mar 4 2023, 01:56 PM)
smart move....

suddenly everyone says it's not bad rate  laugh.gif
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Its really a good rate considering how other pension funds are doing much worse.

But who cares? Rakyat only want kwsp bersasar, right? devil.gif
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post Mar 4 2023, 02:13 PM

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QUOTE(CommodoreAmiga @ Mar 4 2023, 02:09 PM)
Runner up got prize or not? cry.gif
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nexona88 will belanja champion and runner-up kepci biggrin.gif
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post Mar 6 2023, 01:12 PM

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QUOTE(Wolves @ Mar 6 2023, 12:48 PM)
Hmm.. don't forget those who have money doesn't really keep everything in kwsp. Kwsp is only for falling back upon. Doesn't mean it's thier main revenue driver. It is not surprising 150k is T10. Coz most T10 have other places to put. Kwsp is one way street. Go in cannot come out. No rich ppl wanna park 90% money there unless they are 55. That is why it looks low. As for M40 and B40, they don't have options and hence kwsp is thier main place to park. Not saying all but majority. We are Malaysia where financial education is very low. None of these are surprising. Don't think like majority are financial geniuses. Think like majority dunno what is money. Then it all makes sense. Don't over think this
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Mar 6 2023, 12:52 PM)
Singapore is the fav parking place

can see from lowyat forum itself  tongue.gif

so called M40 also doing that... T10 or T20 don't needed to tell lorh...
they even got specialist asset managers to do all the work for them  devil.gif
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Went to epf office this morning to withdraw acc 2 and park nexona88 fav place… tongue.gif

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post Mar 6 2023, 01:43 PM

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QUOTE(Wolves @ Mar 6 2023, 01:22 PM)
Lai liao lai liao.. time to withdraw...
Which is....? Tbonds?
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This epf portion can put in Sreits. My Sreits has been giving consistent dividend 5-6% on top of capital appreciation.
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post Mar 6 2023, 03:02 PM

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QUOTE(Super2047 @ Mar 6 2023, 02:45 PM)
Can share which Sreirt good good there?
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My sreit portfolio:

Aims Apac reit
Capitaland ascendas reit
Mapletree industrial trust
MPACT
FLCT



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post Mar 9 2023, 03:21 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Mar 9 2023, 03:19 PM)
just like my balls predicted...

so basically after 6 state elections  tongue.gif
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post Mar 9 2023, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(Wolves @ Mar 9 2023, 03:41 PM)
20 years later i under the ground already. I want it now i want it fast..
Too slow la... That's why they quite useless and rakyat suffer. Sekali put 1% la... Quick and painful but very fast inflation recover.
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They should make you the governor of BNM tongue.gif
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post Jul 8 2023, 11:07 AM

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Imagine this. You've led a frugal and financially-responsible life with no exorbitant purchases, living within your means and squirreling away your savings in the Employees Provident Fund (EPF).

With that magical 60th birthday now approaching, retirement looms large and, more importantly, the eligibility to withdraw your retirement savings is becoming a reality. Your mind is now set on taking that round-the-world cruise you and the wife have been talking about for the last 30 years, on top of buying that plot of land in Tanjung Malim and building your retirement home.

However, just before you're able to do so, the rules change. You're now only allowed to withdraw a small portion of your savings periodically. Why? Because too many of your peers had in the past squandered away their savings, only to become insolvent in their retirement years.

How much interference is deemed too much when it comes to managing the people's retirement savings? Prime Minster Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim's announcement that the government is open to a suggestion by EPF to make it mandatory for new members in future to withdraw their savings periodically, instead of a lump sum on reaching 55, has triggered debate.

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While Anwar said he was open to the idea, he nevertheless noted that some constraints had to be taken into consideration, including the fact that the savings of some EPF members were simply too meagre. EPF chief executive officer Datuk Seri Amir Hamzah Azizan stated that making periodic withdrawals on a monthly basis could offer members a better way to manage their retirement funds. This, he said, would also allow them to continue enjoying annual dividends for their remaining savings.


There is merit to the suggestion. Data from EPF showed that up to November 2021, some 3.6 million members had less than RM1,000 in their accounts. It also said that members retiring in the next few years would need roughly RM600,000 to have a decent life in retirement. While there is undoubtedly a need to ensure that retirees have enough to enjoy their twilight years, there is also a fine line between managing and micro-managing.


Take the case of Singapore, where the criteria for withdrawing funds upon reaching the retirement age of 65 is ever changing. The criteria for a full draw down of one's savings is difficult to fulfil, especially for middle and low-income earners.

The reality for many Singaporeans is that despite working diligently all their lives, there is little chance for many to enjoy the fruits of their labour, and they have to contend with a dripping faucet of finances to get by in retirement, sufficient to survive, but not quite enough to enjoy the rest of the ride. We have to tread carefully. While there is a noble premise to the idea of limiting access to one's retirement savings, at the end of the day, it is ultimately the people's money.

Analysts have said the government has yet to address the elephant in the room, which is to increase the average salary, which now sees 50 per cent of Malaysians earning less than RM2,500 a month despite the rising cost of living. Anything else would be putting the cart before the horse.

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https://www.nst.com.my/opinion/leaders/2023...draw-all-or-not

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post Jul 8 2023, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(Mattrock @ Jul 8 2023, 11:16 AM)
The proper way to this, imo, is for each person to have a session with an Epf appointed financial advisor, review their situation and come up with a recommended withdrawal plan. In short, different for everyone based on circumstances. This though may not be practical for many reasons.
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Epf already have professional advisors ready for retirees. Apparently the ceo feels this is not enough therefore the monthly withdrawal is suggested.

https://www.kwsp.gov.my/ms/member/retiremen...dvisory-service


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post Oct 3 2023, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(kechung @ Oct 3 2023, 11:36 AM)
Asked EPF on when is i-saraan incentive payment & the ball is kicked back to government.

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Seems like kerajaan madani not so efficient bruce.gif
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post Oct 5 2023, 12:48 PM

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QUOTE(Rinth @ Oct 5 2023, 09:57 AM)
but after 55, self contribution go to akaun emas right? if yes then whatever you self contribute also will stuck in akaun emas..... though u should have surplus in akaun 55 and if emergency want to use the 100k still can literally withdraw it from akaun 55....
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Best is to contribute 100k when you reach age 54. After 55 can take out whenever you need it.
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post Jan 7 2024, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(Wedchar2912 @ Jan 7 2024, 02:34 PM)
btw. Don't know why but I have the impression that if one signs up for the monthly withdrawal (in your friend's case is 5K), basically EPF treats it as if you have withdrawn 5K x 12 = 60K rm at the start of the year, and just settle the payment of 5K to you monthly, and that 60K rm will not earn any dividend yield for said year.

maybe someone can recall if this is true? i tried to do a simple web search, but didn't find anything. Yet somehow I have this impression.
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I think is true. Previously a forummer also reported epf earmark the full 12 months despite monthly withdrawal.

Therefore it would be better do withdrawal manually every month through e-pengeluaran.

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