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post Nov 22 2020, 10:57 AM

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Time to spend my EPF rather than ASMx.
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post Dec 5 2020, 08:00 AM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Dec 5 2020, 06:43 AM)
Liquid assets will cover withdrawals by members, says EPF
PETALING JAYA: The Employees Provident Fund (EPF) said it expects the additional outflow from withdrawals by members affected by the Covid-19 pandemic to have a “minimal impact” on its long-term returns.

The country’s largest pension fund told Bloomberg that it had been expecting withdrawals since the outbreak early this year and had prepared for it by increasing its cash levels.

“In the case where the EPF has to rebalance its portfolio, it would look into its liquid assets to cater for the withdrawal.

“It will be done in an orderly manner without being disruptive to the market and its own long term investment strategy,” the financial news agency quoted them as saying.
https://www.msn.com/en-my/news/national/liq...V?ocid=msedgntp
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This reply is probably to pacify the market from panic sell.
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post Dec 14 2020, 05:34 PM

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QUOTE(MGM @ Oct 25 2020, 08:56 AM)
If 50% of the inactive members above 250k savings withdraw out the balance above 250k, wonder how much would that be, assuming they r above 60yo?
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post Dec 23 2020, 01:28 PM

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QUOTE(Cubalagi @ Dec 23 2020, 01:02 PM)
Last year EPF dividends beat ASB if u exclude the bonus.
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This year bonus div of 0.75% is for the 1st 30k, last year bonus div of 0.5% has no limit?
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post Dec 23 2020, 10:28 PM

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So epf could be doing better than ASB.
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post Dec 24 2020, 08:24 AM

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QUOTE(KIP21 @ Dec 24 2020, 07:54 AM)
For 2019, EPF dividen was 5.45%.

Looking back 2019. Quarter over quarter with 2020.
Q1 9.66bil vs 12.16bil
Q2 12.32bil vs 15.12bil
Q3 13.4bil vs 17.33bil

Q4, EPF involve in KLSE like crazy n i think they gain a lot, .. projected better than 2019' Q4.

How can dividen less than previous 5.45%?? What story they will cook? 2020 profit to anticipate 2021's iSinar withdrawal?

Denominator lesser growth as so many people withdrew iLestari since April i guess...
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Why would withdrawal in 2021 affects 2020 profit?
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post Dec 26 2020, 03:23 PM

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Any idea this "Sumbangan I-Saraan" still available? Has it been given out for 2020 cos I cant check at EPF website due to maintenance? hope it will return b4 year end.

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post Jan 11 2021, 08:39 AM

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QUOTE(xander83 @ Jan 11 2021, 07:06 AM)
High unlikely because ASNB is already at 4.25%

EPF will be lucky to even give out 4% due the amount paying out after selling at profit making assets and holding onto loss making government assets couple days with massive withdrawals from the people  rclxms.gif
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This affects 2021 performance for dividend paying out in 2022.
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post Jan 14 2021, 03:56 PM

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QUOTE(romuluz777 @ Jan 11 2021, 07:50 AM)
I would forecast a 3.xx dividend under the current circumstances
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QUOTE(xander83 @ Jan 11 2021, 11:39 AM)
Worse case 2.99
Best case 3.37

But it’s definitely confirm 3 but a low 3  rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(return78 @ Jan 14 2021, 12:44 PM)
Guys what is your comment on this?

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post Jan 23 2021, 12:17 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Jan 23 2021, 12:12 PM)
Saw in news..
4% for EPF is in the bag.. using 9 month financial results

So final tally most likely 4++ 👍🥳
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Max 5.5%.
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post Jan 23 2021, 05:06 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Jan 23 2021, 04:50 PM)
oh really..

good if can give anything above 5  rclxm9.gif

but if can give like what glove rally give.. even better  sweat.gif
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Stated in that Edge's article.
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post Jan 28 2021, 12:53 PM

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QUOTE(myrancid @ Jan 28 2021, 12:50 PM)
With the current situation, we're lucky if we get 3.5%
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R u saying EPF dividend payout is not based on earnings made in 2020 but on situation, what situation?
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post Jan 28 2021, 03:31 PM

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I think if epf pays >5%, many will not take out via i-sinar but will instead use other funds like fd.
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post Feb 17 2021, 08:03 AM

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Que Sera, Sera (Whatever Will Be, Will Be)

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post Feb 18 2021, 08:58 AM

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QUOTE(jyll92 @ Feb 18 2021, 08:54 AM)
no way that much. already so much fund taken out. have 4.5-5.5 lucky edi
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Why would funds taken out this year affects last year performance?
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post Feb 18 2021, 09:23 AM

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QUOTE(jyll92 @ Feb 18 2021, 09:13 AM)
the money is stuck in investment. its not cash to pay u they have to sell their liquid holdings. giving too much will not be sensible even when the return is good. last year already can take fund out of epf. i myself took out 6k edi
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Liquidating their holdings this year for iSinar will affect 2021 performance n dividend payout in 2022.
Dividend paid this year is on paper not cash. When 2020 Q4 result is known we will see how much of the profit is being paid out as dividend.
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post Feb 18 2021, 09:53 AM

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QUOTE(jyll92 @ Feb 18 2021, 09:42 AM)
u mean they relasing the money without selling the investment ?  rclxub.gif
even on paper also need to sell right
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So u mean if coming dividend is 50billion epf has to liquidate 50 billion of investment?
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post Feb 18 2021, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(jyll92 @ Feb 18 2021, 10:39 AM)
yeah. of course otherwise how to give dividend since dividend is cash
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U seriously think epf need to liquidate 50billion investment when they give out 50billion dividend?
Most dividend are reinvested by force since most cant be taken out except for allowable reasons like housing, education, isinar, >55yo. U dont cash out this dividend like in stockmarket, it only appear in your epf account. If dividend is cash then it would not generate any more income. Epf will never let this CASH uninvested.
Again why would liquidating investment this year affects last year performance?
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post Feb 26 2021, 12:17 PM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Feb 26 2021, 12:02 PM)
some will be disappointed as their forecasted numbers did not materialize.
thus cannot say, i told you so  tongue.gif
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One guy who expect ~3% should be happy.
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post Feb 27 2021, 12:12 PM

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Glad that it is not less than 5%, n not succumb to those views that it can't be more than ASB.

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