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post Feb 1 2017, 10:44 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Feb 1 2017, 08:55 PM)
Wah everyone is really eagerly waiting for EPF dividend..
Not everyday we see this thread so active laugh.gif
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very excited with the dividend... then can do withdrawal laugh.gif
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post Feb 2 2017, 08:54 AM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Feb 1 2017, 02:58 PM)
You are very observant, bro,... Well,... I would love to be able to move my funds from the EPF out albeit slowly,... like what I've been doing with the PNB funds,.. but I can't do so yet because I don't qualify to withdraw yet !

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i am qualified to withdraw everything sen in 3 months' time.

WHAT am i going to do with my millions from EPF? brows.gif brows.gif
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post Feb 2 2017, 09:19 AM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Feb 2 2017, 08:54 AM)
i am qualified to withdraw everything sen in 3 months' time.

WHAT am i going to do with my millions from EPF?    brows.gif  brows.gif
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Please don't, you might bring down the entire EPF !

On the serious note, what are you going to do with the money ? Property purchase, stock market and unit trust ?
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post Feb 2 2017, 09:22 AM

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Feb 2 2017, 09:19 AM)
Please don't, you might bring down the entire EPF !

On the serious note, what are you going to do with the money ? Property purchase, stock market and unit trust ?
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HONESTLY i don't know!

i have properties, stocks but NO unit trust. i don't TRUST them.

At this age, i guess i will be investing in more dividend producing equities and maybe some bonds.

Need more ideas. smile.gif
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post Feb 2 2017, 09:27 AM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Feb 2 2017, 09:22 AM)
HONESTLY i don't know! 

i have properties, stocks but NO unit trust. i don't TRUST them.

At this age, i guess i will be investing in more dividend producing equities and maybe some bonds. 

Need more ideas.  smile.gif
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The thing is anything you venture into will have to produce roughly > 6% return. Are you going to follow this rule ?
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post Feb 2 2017, 09:33 AM

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Feb 2 2017, 09:27 AM)
The thing is anything you venture into will have to produce roughly > 6% return. Are you going to follow this rule ?
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i am trying allocate portions. Not going to withdraw everything unless i migrate.

My goal is look for yields of the following:

a. min 6%
b. equity risk 2%
c. currency risk 1%
d. other risk 1%

Total 10%

So i try to look for anything above 10% if possible for riskier assets
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post Feb 2 2017, 09:55 AM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Feb 2 2017, 09:33 AM)
i am trying allocate portions. Not going to withdraw everything unless i migrate.

My goal is look for yields of the following:

a.  min 6%
b.  equity risk 2%
c.  currency risk 1%
d. other risk 1%

Total 10%

So i try to look for anything above 10% if possible for riskier assets
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Yeah I would continue keeping some in there unless I am leaving this country for good. No hurry in withdrawing in 3 months .. just scout for better options before withdrawing anything. I would be in a similar dilemma if the time comes for me to withdraw all. Those not at that age, cant wait to withdraw but when you are really at that age, dunno what to do with it pulak. At least for me .. haha.
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post Feb 4 2017, 12:13 AM

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It's already the 4th and I haven't received my home loan monthly repayment for this month yet. Anyone having the same problem?
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post Feb 4 2017, 09:27 AM

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QUOTE(familyfirst @ Feb 2 2017, 09:55 AM)
Yeah I would continue keeping some in there unless I am leaving this country for good.    No hurry in withdrawing in 3 months .. just scout for better options before withdrawing anything.    I would be in a similar dilemma if the time comes for me to withdraw all.    Those not at that age, cant wait to withdraw but when you are really at that age, dunno what to do with it pulak.    At least for me .. haha.
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For myself,...I'm ready when that day comes,... having armed w knowledge and experience for so long. I guessed this is important !
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post Feb 4 2017, 09:37 AM

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Looking at the trend of ASB & tabung haji dividend rate..
Expect EPF one to drop drastically too devil.gif
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post Feb 4 2017, 06:46 PM

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Please do some analyses rather than hope, predict, pray or benchmark others.


QUOTE(pearl_white @ Dec 23 2016, 02:43 PM)
Selling FGV only materialises the loss now.

But in the books, provisions for investment impairments have been made in prior years. 

Hence, the loss has been taken into accounts ended 2015.  So, it will not affect 2017 dividend.

Based on culmulative performances of Q1 to Q3 2016 EPF results, the estimated dividend rate is < 5.5%

However, because of the strong dollar, we could see massive revaluation reserves, unrealised forex gain in the year end accounting.

So, my guess is 5% - 6% next year.
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post Feb 5 2017, 11:01 AM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Feb 4 2017, 09:37 AM)
Looking at the trend of ASB & tabung haji dividend rate..
Expect EPF  one to drop drastically too devil.gif
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post Feb 5 2017, 11:05 AM

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And what many ppl do not realise, time and time again, the newspaper reports about epf selling their london properties are meant to re-inforce the re-valuation. So do the likes of KWAP.



QUOTE(pearl_white @ Feb 4 2017, 06:46 PM)
Please do some analyses rather than hope, predict, pray or benchmark others.
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post Feb 5 2017, 08:41 PM

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Wild guess by me. 5% this year.

Even tabung Haji declared 4.xx%
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post Feb 6 2017, 08:11 AM

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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Feb 5 2017, 08:41 PM)
Wild guess by me. 5% this year.

Even tabung Haji declared 4.xx%
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Tabung Haji has made very poor investments in Oil and Gas. I think it's a pretty big chunk of their portfolio.

Maybe not like for like.
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post Feb 6 2017, 09:00 AM

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What with the 1.25% Hibah Haji and 2.5% zakat thingy?
This one not all the depositors of TH will get?
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post Feb 6 2017, 09:17 AM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Feb 6 2017, 09:00 AM)
What with the 1.25% Hibah Haji and 2.5% zakat thingy?
This one not all the depositors of TH will get?
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The haji one..
As what I know.. Those yet to perform haj will get the hibah haji.. Those already done. Nope.. Just the 4% thingy only..
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Feb 6 2017, 09:11 AM)
Tabung Haji has made very poor investments in Oil and Gas.  I think it's a pretty big chunk of their portfolio.

Maybe not like for like.
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So when will they announce the dividend? Its already February...

Usually end of January or early February.... sweat.gif
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post Feb 6 2017, 10:21 AM

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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Feb 6 2017, 10:07 AM)
So when will they announce the dividend? Its already February...

Usually end of January or early February....  sweat.gif
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Never mind. What's the issue?
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post Feb 6 2017, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Feb 6 2017, 10:07 AM)
So when will they announce the dividend? Its already February...

Usually end of January or early February....  sweat.gif
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EPF dividend ah??
Some say after 14 Feb hmm.gif

Don't shoot me if wrong okay blush.gif

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