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post Feb 23 2016, 10:13 AM

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QUOTE(magika @ Feb 22 2016, 11:17 AM)

EPF decent dividend payout has always been a thorn to those advocating investing in Unit Trust and the likes. Where to find such decent payout without risk to the capital. Hopefully it can be maintained in future, such that future retirees can enjoy their retirement peacefully.

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Every single cent invested into Uint Trust is diluted by salesman commission, agent fee, management fee, company tax, marketing fee and etc.
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QUOTE(kpfun @ Feb 23 2016, 10:13 AM)
Every single cent invested into Uint Trust is diluted by salesman commission, agent fee, management fee, company tax, marketing fee and etc.
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101% agree with that.

Only UT I have now is the PRS for tax benefit.
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post Feb 23 2016, 10:19 AM

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QUOTE(MGM @ Feb 22 2016, 08:58 PM)
Ahhhhhhhhh smell of materialism, status, peer pressure, living on credit. hmm.gif No wonder some complain about living in pressure cooker.
Diff folks diff expectation, thats what I am saying. I always encourage one to do retirement planning even from young instead of wasteful spending. A young man with BMW, most likely paid with credit and not building wealth whereas an old man with BMW paid with cash from his accumulated wealth. I for one PLEASE myself when my wealth pile up n I only need to spend on the dividend. And when I go I will happily pass it to my family. To me that is joy.
It is hard to make the first million(esp so if u are spendthrift) but once u achieve that the next few millions will come easier.
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It is a good habit - the money uses for non essential luxury expenses should come from the dividend from the previous accumulated earned dividends!

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post Feb 23 2016, 10:19 AM

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QUOTE(magika @ Feb 22 2016, 11:17 AM)
EPF decent dividend payout has always been a thorn to those advocating investing in Unit Trust and the likes. Where to find such decent payout without risk to the capital. Hopefully it can be maintained in future, such that future retirees can enjoy their retirement peacefully.
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Thank God that out EPF didn't follow the CPF. CPF officials said retirement funds don't need to give so high interest. If people want high interest, they should take risk and invest elsewhere. mad.gif vmad.gif

QUOTE(kpfun @ Feb 23 2016, 10:19 AM)
It is a good habit - the money uses for non essential luxury expenses should come from the dividend from the previous accumulated earned dividends!
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True but most people spend first worry later.

This post has been edited by Ramjade: Feb 23 2016, 10:22 AM
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post Feb 23 2016, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Feb 22 2016, 10:42 AM)
I think what it meant is the account holder must be 75 years old with no withdrawal performed.

From what I know, after a certain age. EPF will stop giving dividends. But one still can withdraw the money out. But I am not sure at what age. So after reach that age, better take all out and dump into FD as no dividends will be given.
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EPF is proposing to amend the act to allow the maximum age up to 100 years old. So far, since the news, no news of the amendment progress.


http://english.astroawani.com/malaysia-new...dividends-58470

http://www.kwsp.gov.my/portal/en/news-list...DetailPage=true

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post Feb 23 2016, 10:33 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Feb 23 2016, 10:19 AM)

True but most people spend first worry later.
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Young fella with BMW, ada gaya ma tapi mungkin tin kosong.
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post Feb 23 2016, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(MGM @ Feb 23 2016, 10:33 AM)
Young fella with BMW, ada gaya ma tapi mungkin tin kosong.
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Aka enjoy 1st n suffer later
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post Feb 23 2016, 12:16 PM

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QUOTE(cybpsych @ Feb 23 2016, 09:52 AM)
time to update this table for future reference  blush.gif

Announcement DateDayDividendYearCredit DateDaySource
20 Feb, 2016Sat6.40%201520 Feb, 2016SatEPF
07 Feb, 2015Sat6.75%201407 Feb, 2015SatEPF
16 Feb, 2014Sun6.35%201317 Feb, 2014MonEPF
17 Feb, 2013Sun6.15%201218 Feb, 2013MonEPF
19 Feb, 2012Sun6.00%201120 Feb, 2012MonEPF
20 Feb, 2011Sun5.80%201021 Feb, 2011MonEPF
05 Mar, 2010Fri5.65%200908 Mar, 2010MonEPF
16 Mar, 2009Mon4.50%200823 Mar, 2009MonEPF
30 Jan, 2008Wed5.80%200701 Mar, 2008SatEPF
05 Feb, 2007Mon5.10%2006end Feb, 2007---EPF
23 Feb, 2006Thu5.00%2005------EPF
17 Feb, 2005Thu4.75%2004------EPF
20 Feb, 2004Fri4.50%2003------EPF
18 Apr, 2003Fri4.25%2002------limkitsiang.com
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good job rclxms.gif flex.gif

maybe TS techie.opinion can post on 1st page
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post Feb 23 2016, 01:18 PM

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More than 2,200 Malaysians renounced their citizenship and withdrew their Employees Provident Fund (EPF) savings in 2015.

In 2015, 2,206 EPF members took out a total of RM154.6mil before leaving the country, the EPF chief executive officer Datuk Shahril Ridza Ridzuan said.

This was up from the previous year, with 1,787 withdrawals totalling RM99mil in principal.
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Feb 23 2016, 01:18 PM)
More than 2,200 Malaysians renounced their citizenship and withdrew their Employees Provident Fund (EPF) savings in 2015.

In 2015, 2,206 EPF members took out a total of RM154.6mil before leaving the country, the EPF chief executive officer Datuk Shahril Ridza Ridzuan said.

This was up from the previous year, with 1,787 withdrawals totalling RM99mil in principal.
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Sorry, I like to play with numbers.

That work out to be on average RM70k and RM50k per EPF ac for 2015 & 2014 respectively.

I expected the "rich" ones to leave the country.

Please don't hammer me saying that the rich ones do not put their money in EPF! Ha.


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QUOTE(plumberly @ Feb 23 2016, 01:25 PM)
Sorry, I like to play with numbers.

That work out to be on average RM70k and RM50k per EPF ac for 2015 & 2014 respectively.

I expected the "rich" ones to leave the country.

Please don't hammer me saying that the rich ones do not put their money in EPF! Ha.
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rich dint bother about epf. which is to say they hedge their bets. they probably wont give up citizenship here but have PR. usually in singapore Australia and thailand. so their epf still here.
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QUOTE(plumberly @ Feb 23 2016, 01:25 PM)
Sorry, I like to play with numbers.

That work out to be on average RM70k and RM50k per EPF ac for 2015 & 2014 respectively.

I expected the "rich" ones to leave the country.

Please don't hammer me saying that the rich ones do not put their money in EPF! Ha.
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The "rich" is smart. They won't simply renounced their citizenship. they also know EPF is "low risk investment" thus no withdraw what ever they have there. others money they use to invest riskier assets.

good example is those top 10 billionaire. they don't stay in Malaysia. investment mostly overseas. have accounts all over the world, yet they're still "Malaysian" blush.gif

only those "working class" would renounced their citizenship. that's why u see below 100k per EPF account.


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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Feb 23 2016, 01:37 PM)
The "rich" is smart. They won't simply renounced their citizenship. they also know EPF is "low risk investment" thus no withdraw what ever they have there. others money they use to invest riskier assets.

good example is those top 10 billionaire. they don't stay in Malaysia. investment mostly overseas. have accounts all over the world, yet they're still "Malaysian"  blush.gif

only those "working class" would renounced their citizenship. that's why u see below 100k per EPF account.
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I would like to think that if they have trouble earning a decent income in Malaysia, what makes them think that they can earn a better income in another country.(Dont use exchange rate as comparison).

If one is not competitive here, how does one think he will be in another more developed country.
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Off topic here ..

I think what they have in EPF are not really reflective of their true net worth. Why? To migrate, they would need sufficient money, otherwise, the receiving countries would not be that interested in having them. More of a burden to their countries. Yes, depends on the migration category they applied. But still they would need certain minimum funds.

Enough of this topic in EPF thread lah.
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post Feb 23 2016, 07:44 PM

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QUOTE(plumberly @ Feb 23 2016, 05:31 PM)
Off topic here ..

I think what they have in EPF are not really reflective of their true net worth. Why? To migrate, they would need sufficient money, otherwise, the receiving countries would not be that interested in having them. More of a burden to their countries. Yes, depends on the migration category they applied. But still they would need certain minimum funds.

Enough of this topic in EPF thread lah.
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Developed countries welcome professionals/talents that are in demand with open arms, without looking into their networth, unless it is biz migration.
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QUOTE(McD_burger @ Feb 23 2016, 09:00 PM)
WHY THEY up so much ????
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Anyway, don't be too excited! If the BN gov still rule after PRU14, I guess they will stop withdrawal at the age of 55 and extend to 60 then 75! They had tried before!

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post Mar 3 2016, 09:59 PM

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No worry
We'll cross that bridge when we get there
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post Mar 11 2016, 11:29 PM

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Even LTAT deliver better returns than EPF doh.gif

LTAT pays 12% dividend and bonus for FY15
http://www.theedgemarkets.com/my/article/l...-and-bonus-fy15
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post Mar 12 2016, 06:32 AM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Mar 11 2016, 11:29 PM)
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Even LTAT deliver better returns than EPF  doh.gif

LTAT pays 12% dividend and bonus for FY15
http://www.theedgemarkets.com/my/article/l...-and-bonus-fy15
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Wow.. Crazily high..


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