QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Feb 6 2017, 10:07 AM)
So when will they announce the dividend? Its already February...
Usually end of January or early February....
Never mind. What's the issue?Usually end of January or early February....
EPF DIVIDEND, EPF
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Feb 20 2017, 08:20 AM
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Feb 20 2017, 08:23 AM
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Feb 20 2017, 10:42 AM
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Feb 20 2017, 10:39 AM) Hmm EPF also c/fwd income... Probably anticipating a worse 2017. Trying to spread the dividends over these worse coming yearsIts good, but seems like they over done it for this time.... Some mention over 9bil which I think is quite high Question will be whether to receive 5.7 in 2016, 6 in 2017, 6.1 in 2018 OR 6.3 in 2016, 5.7 in 2017 and 5.5 in 2018 ? |
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QUOTE(netmask8 @ Feb 20 2017, 10:44 AM) Are you sure chicken Rice cost only SGD 2 ? When is the last time you been to Singapore eat chicken rice at 3.5 is still cheaper than Msia. Kallang, Toa Payoh, Bukit Batok or Geylang? http://www.thebestsingapore.com/eat-and-dr...e-chicken-rice/ Monetary Authority of Singapore objective is to hike SGD, to makes their IMPORT cheaper, as well as to control inflation. If your country is EXPORTING a lot, lower currency exchg rate is preferred. Singapore CPF 2.5% CPF not doing well in ROI ?? Fixed rate also low in Singapore .. Most retirement funds measure against inflation. SG inflation is pretty muted compared MYR inflation |
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QUOTE(plumberly @ Feb 20 2017, 10:50 AM) Thanks. I thought I saw a "9" figure. Yours talks about 8 billion. So ... Looks like they need approx. 8.24 bil for a 1% payout presentlyAhha, yes, I think I saw a "9" figure too. Do you still remember where is that article? Scary thought came to mind just now. Even with 47 billion, we get only 5.7% How much do they need in the future to give 6+%? I will try to study the % with annual find size and see how much that has influenced the final %. So trying to get the yearly EPF fund size. |
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Feb 20 2017, 02:39 PM
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Feb 20 2017, 02:43 PM
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QUOTE(netmask8 @ Feb 20 2017, 12:01 PM) As usual, create and telling good storytelling only . Need to take care Face & Status excellent records. Doesn't mean my methods will work for all. Neither does WB methods. It's all individualistic.Perhaps, share records for the past 10 years. Did ANYONE invest in gold in 2002? I did........ |
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QUOTE(netmask8 @ Feb 20 2017, 02:55 PM) Yes, gold and other precious metals were at low on Nov 2015 and peak on Sept 2016, you got 18% ROI. How about your records in year 2012 - 2015? Need to have consistently I gave 2016 because of the EPF returns............ Good ROI reports, not only year 2016. I just started bought some precious metals counters in USA in July 2015. Some earlier years, I had as high as 300% returns on my mining stocks! |
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Hi risk, high losses. 2016 Impairment of MYR8.17 was the highest ever for EPF. Methinks to offset this, they have decided to retain more reserves for future years. However, this will affect the present stakeholders who may not have a stake in the future! That impairment equates to roughly 1% of dividend AND the CEO try to put up smoke mirrors comparing the impairment with the fund NAV! QUOTE Speaking at a press conference on its dividend announcement here yesterday, CEO Datuk Shahril Ridza Ridzuan assured members that the impairment level is not alarming as it accounts for only 1.2% of the total investment assets of RM731.11 billion as at Dec 31, 2016. “The impairment is not very much and it allows us to maintain a very healthy balance sheet,” he said. This post has been edited by prophetjul: Feb 21 2017, 08:50 AM |
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QUOTE(plumberly @ Feb 21 2017, 02:09 PM) Well done Sifu! Have to use weighted average.Much better than my single digit return for 2016. Just wondering, can it be just adding up the %? Say 1 million return 5 % 10,000 return 25% Then 5+25=30% is not right. Should be pro-rata to the amount invested for each and then take the average return. My 2 cents. |
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QUOTE(Hansel @ Feb 21 2017, 07:19 PM) Tq fro the opinions,... well,... the way I counted was by using, say eg RM 300 converted into the AUD sometime last year, which produced AUD 100. Then I invested this AUD 100, and this AUD 100 became AUD 102.21. If I reconvert back that AUD 102.21 into the RM at today's exchange rate of 3.44, it would be RM351.60. Weighted average will beHence, I made RM51.60 over the RM300 earlier, which is 17.2%. Dividend same principle,... Asset................ Invested Sum...................Returns(%) Gold....................1mil.............................23 Gold Miners..........0.5mil......................150 Weighted average = 1 x 23 +0.5x150/(1+0.5) = 65.33% |
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QUOTE(plumberly @ Feb 22 2017, 09:03 PM) My gut feel is something is not right with the low 5.7% despite the record 2016 revenue. See below. Swept/hidden under RM8.2 billion impairment? BIASA........EPF lendings, bailouts and write offs.Pakatan Harapan leaders today urged the Employees Provident Fund (EPF) to dispose its investments in 1MDB as soon as possible. In a joint statement signed by Parti Amanah Negara’s Dzulkefly Ahmad, PKR’s Wong Chen and DAP’s Teresa Kok, the opposition coalition claimed that the decrease in EPF’s 2016 dividend rate was due to EPF’s investment amounting to RM1.72 billion in 1MDB. Apart from the EPF, Pakatan Harapan also urged government institutions such as Tabung Haji and Retirement Fund Inc (KWAP) to dispose their investments in state investment fund. The EPF, they said, was facing financial problems which would in turn affect EPF depositors. “EPF’s investment of RM1.72 billion is a huge amount, more so since the funds are from the people’s savings,” they said. Read more: https://www.malaysiakini.com/news/373422#ixzz4ZQ0TF2Ab Afterall, as the CEO said...........ONLY 1.2% of NAV. |
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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Feb 27 2017, 06:22 AM) Sure.. only if Msia "overseas" investment is substantial enough to earn a lot more Sounds like a DEPRESSION.... and the ringgit devalues further against the foreign currencies, then surely it will translate into higher earnings when converted back into Ringgit. But, then again. It can go both ways. If Ringgit appreciates again, earnings from abroad will be lesser.. thus, don't be mad if dividends will go lower. Here's the thing a lot of people don't realised. There is a MANDATORY requirement, at minimum, dividends at 2% is GUARANTEED. This is regardless of EPF making money or not. EPF could potentially run into problem (with negative revenue) if there is a severe world wide recession that runs multiple years. So far, EPF is very lucky, none of them has happened. |
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