Yo ...
want to ask this lcd izzit good enuf for 360 ?
about the respone time .... izzit affect alot in the game?
pls give me some idea ~ thx q

I think zaakath and wel using this monitor.

Its a good LCD and doesn't affect my games like ghosting. I like it cause I have do a picture within a picture to keep tabs between my pc and the xbox and I don't have to buy a switch as I use a component cable for the xbox360 and vga cable for my pc. You may want to wait for the 27" one which is inbetween the 30" and 24"

New model of the 24" coming out also. 2407. 8ms response.

wat about playing pc game .. got any ghosting or delay ?
i think 24" is more than enuf for me .. haha anyway thx for ur reply !!

ya i know this . but they din state put the price =.=~~~~

I play Dungeon and Dragon Online, RF Online and City of Villians/Heroes and Guild Wars I don' notice any delay.

wah good good ... u gotta let my gabenor paper fly away

The Dell 24" is RM3219 only at the moment

Ya... I think Dell clearing stocks like what they did to the 2005.

Interesting, I just checked the site again and I noticed the 30" is no longer featured.

This post has been edited by MK84: Mar 31 2006, 02:46 PM

dell 19 ultrasharp (8ms) only RM1019? , my department bought 6 unit from dell last week with price RM1499 each

I think this monitor is suitable for those that can't afford (Zaakath excluded) a full blown LCD TV (e.g psp_boy & Stringfellow) but still wanna play in HD. With the PS3 on the horizon, u still have avalable inputs for it without having to swap cables..

In my case,
DVI = PC
Component = XBOX360
D-SUB/VGA = PS3 maybe?
Composite =
S-VIDEO =


I took a few pictures using my phone the other day, u might wanna check it out

I think for PS3 you can use the DVI port. Get a HDMI to DVI cable.

Yeah, but my DVI is used by my PC. Dont really wanna use D-SUB for my PC@ 1900*1200

last weekend i saw some promotion going for Senq , RM 3000 for 23" Samsung LCD TV... too bad.. only limited to first 10 customers..

i believe if they can give this kind of discount... the price would be a norm in coming months...

well my cuz uses this with his xbox and i have to say its great

he also plays guild wars and WoW on it
and no slow response

24" is great enuf
when i play on a 27" lcd it feels to big
and was thinking that 21"-24" would do the trick

for a cheap LCD tv/monitor try the 26" Benq
last time i saw at our usual shop it was bout 3-4K

my TV was bought at 3900k

dunno why that store cheaper than others

42" HD Pioneer is at 13k

heheeh

but the benq is nice

and this one is well great for the average guy

eh wel, how bout blackness level on the 24" ultrasharp?

im using 3rd party vga cable on 17" dell analogue lcd. 2 problems: the colours are abit screwed/washed out (vga cable problem) and white light leaking when the screen is black. will try to get some shots later when i get back.

This post has been edited by hikaru_x: Mar 31 2006, 03:22 PM

psp boy, you're only 13 and you're talking about buying stuff worth 3K?? I'm already working and can barely afford anything above 2K.. Can I be your abang angkat ah?? Seems your parents are very generous

Anyhoos, I guess if you have the dough, the 24" would be an excellent buy since you can't get that kind of price anywhere else. But if you're on a budget, I'd highly recommend the Viewsonic VA1912W LCD monitor. 19" widescreen, with DVI and VGA inputs, so you can plug in your 360 and PC at the same time, no need switch. Priced very attractively at RM1.3K too....

heheh

3k good price boss
u go other shops its bout 6k
hehe
cannot get the price anywhere else boss

nanti i tell u guys the name of the place

VIEWSONIC thats it!!!

thats ones blardy good

G4TV reccomended it
haha

wait for the new SED tv.. lauching soon... then pray for LCD and Plasma's price to drop...

Toshiba's Plasma/LCD Killer
http://gear.ign.com/articles/679/679235p1.html

I know what u're talking about. I think they called it the "backlight" bleeding problem or something like that. Yep, mine has that problem too, esp on the top right hand corner. Other than that, I have no washed out color problems. If u read the forums at http://www.hardforums.com, u'll realized lots of ppl have this problem esp with the 2005FPW. They can usually get a replacement unit easily but for some reason, doesn't apply to us Malaysians.

I'm not exactly a happy 2405FPW user but with that kinda price, thats to be expected. Can't expect top of the line goods. I have a friend that claims to have absolutely no backlight issues with his 2405. Oh, mine came with a stuck pixel too..and they refused to give me a replacement unit..i gave them a piece of my mind and got a RM150 discount in the end. Sigh...If only i have loads of money, I would have settle for a Samsung 244T. Kinda makes me think twice about ordering from Dell again.

Not so soon .... we're looking at end 2007 for SED TVs to hit retail. And that's not even for the local market I'm sure. So that's at least a good 2 years to go.

http://gear.ign.com/articles/694/694751p1.html

And to top it off, we're probably looking at a base screen size of 55"!! But yeah, I agree ... the specs looks awesome. Waiting anxiously ....

Wel, where and how many stuck pixel?

One . At the mid-bottom left. A red one.

No wonder they didn't want to replace.

Ya, la..What I'm trying to say is buying fron DELL or anything online is a gamble. For my case, it was just pure bad luck.

each company have their dead-pixel policy, dell is minimum 3 pixels with different colours befire they replace it if im not mistaken, but the problem is, its not stated clearly on the website when u buy it, ud actually hv to click here n there to find the policy

^ - Dell's policy is 6 dead pixels.

This post has been edited by welwitchia: Mar 31 2006, 05:34 PM

Yup, have been monitoring the SED tech. dev. closely, and the results, even by the protos, are impressive, cant imagine the final product......

When that technology matures, it's time again to move up, both in screen size and features it provides. The Samsung im using starts turning on its internal cooling mechanisms too often these days compared to the older days...

Sorry for the OT. Carry on....

The blacklight bleeding is noticable when playing in black background right?

My 2005FPW has some, but I dont mind, coz it doesnt really affect that much.

actually... all dell has the "backlight" problem. even my 17 " 1704 also got..

I think backlight bleeding is a common LCD problem. My VA1912w has that as well, although it's noticeable when viewing it at certain angles.

But how often do your games turn totally black anyways? During loading screens only perhaps

nah black screens are not common for 360

check out RR6's and PGR's

colourful

1 noob question

2405 is 16:10 right?
so any side effect of it ?

You still get black bars at the top and bottom..However, if that bothers u, u can always stretch it to give u full screen. Not a big problem if u ask me. U'll hardly notice it.

owners of this monitor,
where u guys bought it from? DELL itself?

online from dell i guess (unless they got other lubang:p). if u know a fren who works in dell, ask him/her to buy with staff price

Bought mine online @dell.com.my

dats wat i'm trying to do but my fren have yet to reply me back with the price

stuff price RM2800...
buy jor this month eat roti liao me ~

rm2800, not bad . got the april dell catalogue yesterday, they put the price rm4k+ ?? (no stop it, don't buy, don't wan, no money! *one hand slapping myself in the head, the other hand dialing Dell friend on the phone LoL )

anybody got a fren working in DELL? confirm staff price RM2.8k?

I'm still thinking on whether to get the 24" widescreen or 20" widescreen...

This post has been edited by alkt: Apr 20 2006, 09:40 PM

yup, a friend of mine got his for RM2.8k quite some time ago.

p/s: Staff price for the 30" is less than RM6k.

how long was that la?

24" widescreen is enuf for me so dun poison me further

planning to get it by June

20" no component, only vga, composite, s-video
30" only dual dvi input, nothing else

he said bought nearly a year ago. So i guess now sure staff price cheaper, rm2.5k perhaps?

Gosh...I'm planning to save 4k and buy a Samsung LCD monitor....SAVE...SAVE...SAVE!!!

I got my Dell 2405FPW November 2005 at RM$2.8k (staff price). So far no backlight or bleeding issue as mentioned. Connected to my xbox 360 using component and works great. No ghosting whilst playing game. Also tried with my xbox using xbmc and works great as well.

Here is the full spec of the 2405FPW
The Dell 2405FPW Panel is a Samsung LTM240M1 - L01 and is manufactured by BenQ:
It utilizes a Genesis Gm1601 scaler/deinterlacer chip.

24" Viewable Image Size
1920x1200 Wide UXGA Native Resolution
8ms Response Time
Digital (DVI) or Analog connection
S-video, composite and component inputs
Contrast 1000:1
Brightness 500
4 port USB Hub and 9-in-1 card reader

http://www.samsung.com/Products/TFTLCD/Mon...M1/LTM240M1.htm
http://www.gnss.com/prod_lcd_mon.phtml - Malibu GM1601

2407WFP would be a better choice with 6ms response time. Coming out soon to Malaysia. (I hear may/june 2006 time frame).
Here is the spec
http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/moni...FP/en/index.htm

huikb,
are u a staff in DELL?

alkt, nope but close enough within the IT industry.

IMO the looks alone is worth the wait

oooohhhhh i seeeee. i was wonnnnderrrrrrrrrinngggg if uuuurrr wiiillllingggg toooo help

This post has been edited by alkt: Apr 24 2006, 07:25 PM

Sorry he has used up his quota for the year. Also I am using his for next year as well. (2407WFP, Inspiron and etc...) They are entitled to 3 purchase per year.

aiseh man, it is ok then.looks like i'll quickly ask my fren to get it for me

I was thinking of getting the Dell 2407 but it seems there's major problems with it. Many people who got it are very unhappy with it

yea i saw that too so i'll just stick to the 2405 eventho its uglier than it's younger bro

btw........
hope to connect the red n white to pc sound card?

the benq FP231W is not too bad as well...kinda reasonably priced also

for those on a tighter budget try the benq FP93GX
- 19" LCD Monitor
- 2ms GTG Response Time
- 300 cd/㎡ Brightness
- 700:1 Contrast Ratio
- Dual D-Sub & DVI Inputs

This post has been edited by yoroi: May 3 2006, 06:10 PM

yoroi,
do u know how much is that benq?

I've sold enough stuff to fund the Dell 2405 already. If everything goes according to plan, I should be getting it around next week

Another 2405 user, congrats

So THAT's why you're selling off your 6800s and X2

I ordered mine on Labour day Status is shipped so I'm hoping it'll arrive today or tomorrow

This post has been edited by shreaker: May 4 2006, 01:43 PM

can't remember to be honest... just remembered that it was a pretty good deal

Found a buyer for the FX and X2, the 6800 Ultras is still up for grabs

You'll be using it with an X1900XTX right? Do let us know how it handles games at max settings. I've been reading people saying that even a dual 7800GTX can't handle the monitor

dual 7800GTX can't handle the monitor????

i'll be using it with my 6600GT...even worse wei

We have the 360 edi so don't have to worry about PC games

not me but my dumb bro still wants to play WoW but i couldn't be bothered with WoW already...play Live is even better

half way more to get this baby

Will do

Didn't arrive today. Fingers x'd for tommorrow!

is Dell 2405 still available or already been replaced???

already replaced by 2407

Dell 20 inch wide screen RM1899 only

This is a very sad day. The excellent 2405 has been replaced by the downright crappy 2407. Stay away from the 2007 and the 2407 at all cost! They have serious vertical banding and blurred text issues

omfg lar..wanted to order end of this month already...i wonder if they still have stock on 2405 instead of 2407

btw arj,can u help me call DELL n ask if i could still get 2405 instead of 2407? thx man

This post has been edited by alkt: May 6 2006, 09:32 PM

KK... will try to call them up.

yes its sad just when i saw the yummy price its faded away sigh..... any way the 20' inch wide is it good enough than 19' wide ..the difference is about 1k huhuhhuhh ??? just to ask is it worth it??? mr persia

bro arj already mentioned, stay away from 2407 and 2007 model, both got problems. better get 19' inch wide. u can save money for games

now i'm using 19' inch dell ultrasharp, ok la, the picture is so clear

This post has been edited by PrinceOfPersia: May 6 2006, 10:05 PM

im using a 19' inch lcd is it really worth it upgrading to wide for xbox360 ??? or just stick using this bebeh my bebeh can handle game alright already no ghosting what so ever just that everybody keep mentioning wide seems tempted huhuhhuh

I think it's well worth it to upgrade to a widescreen even if it's only 19".

Arj, what problems does the 2407 have?

i saw from some forum said it have problem with bending dont know what is it though ?? maybe arj will help

Vertical banding, blured text and flimsy stand

let's just hope DELL still got stock for 2405

Hmmm... well, I've just tested oblivion on it. Max settings with HDR is OK so far, no noticeable lag (yet). Max settings with max AA is not playable though. Looks like even x1900xtx can't tame this beast (I mean beast=Oblivion, not the monitor... it's bloody perfect!!!!)

Thanking my lucky stars, no noticeable dead pixels.

[edit] Had to put a pic up... i'm so happy.



This post has been edited by shreaker: May 7 2006, 10:07 PM

Darn, I was thinking on getting the oblivion PC version, now have a second thought after reading this forum, I bet even my dual xfx 7800gt cant handle it...sigh.......

I think they're still playable if you're using a smaller monitor with lower resolution.

they took quite some time to ship the 2405 during PC fair......delayed 2 weeks.........

i think they are not gonna have the 2405 in stock anymore...

just hold your money b4 getting the 2407...i'm sure they will solve the banding problems soon....

BTW....Playing my PS2 using my 2405.....i know this is an xbox thread....heheheheh

Hang on, hang on... i'll try again with 2gb RAM instead (currently 1gb). Apparently the game is really resource hungry. Will update as soon as I get the rams in!

and silencer... the game is totally awesome. with 2405fpw i'm running at 1900x1200 so it's no surprise if there's some slowdown...

Using the same moitor too as well..pls update on your finding..if enerythin is ok..I'll upgrade my RAM to 2GB too asl well..if not, seems like I have to stick with the oblivion's xbox 360 version only...

thnx

helo guys, yesterday my department received the 2007 and 2407 model. tested it with the 360. the picture quality is excellent, sharp and bla bla bla . for 2407 model, tested it with both vga and component and my conclusion is "vga is better". one more thing, i think dell slowly fixed the lcd's problem (i'm not dell fanboy, but my department, yes )


EDIT: 2007's price for today is RM1435, 3 weeks ago the price is RM2K

This post has been edited by PrinceOfPersia: Jun 3 2006, 09:45 AM

VGA is better?...Fuhhh i'm running with component since bought it... , tonight will try VGA with my 2405...

thats my mata bro, maybe your mata lain kot , u can try both

bro, can you check the revision number on the 2007 and the 2407?

link regarding 2007 and 2407 banding fix, no revision number though..

2007 and 2407 banding and worldwide fix

been browsing through Dell forums regrading 2007/2407...found this..read though the post...

2007/2407 fix in revision A02

yup, 2007 and 2407 got many problems, can discuss here LCD thread

Guys,
since i've got a 2407 waiting for me at home and i'm gonna use it with my xbox360, would this box do any good? planning to hook up my pc to the LCD using VGA while xbox360 uses the composite. pls advice. thanks

^ y composite to the X360, y not component or VGA..?
You dont need a external box as the monitor can switch display internaly with a video selector on the bezel rite..?
DVI - Cpu
VGA or Component - X360

oops sorry, i meant component

so in terms of graphic wise, which is nicer between vga and component?

ya... like shumaky said, why don't u use the DVI with the PC and the component input with the xbox360 anyway? Since the monitor has component input ready.

yea i know the LCD got component input but wanna make sure which input is better mah cos if VGA is nicer then i'll get VGA cables before i fly back next week