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post Feb 20 2013, 01:49 PM

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QUOTE(wings_silver @ Feb 20 2013, 01:09 PM)
need some skill advice on my POW Stymphalian Bird.

i reborned my pow S.Bird. and currently with skill below
- Lower Def -20%
- AGI + 20%
- PHY + 4

and the reborn skill is  Quick Strike. question is.. which existing skill to give up? i saw GCF mentioned to gave up PHY + 4?
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Wow.. U reborn a berserk S.Bird, Cool...


As for the Skills set, i will give up Agi+20,
Cause Agi+20 is the next round buff, your bird might not able to survive 1-hit..
Berserk Bird max HP is not very high, and your Agi dropped to 3258,
which is average stat alrd for rebirth guardian..

So if you Choose QS, Def-20 & Phy4,

Possible Scenario A is, your Bird will QS the opponent 1, (hopefully can kill it, provided u has LS infront of your bird)
Then Phy4 on the next guardian, with it's atk of 3855 plus minus enemy def-20, mostly can ohko opponent 2,
before get kill by opponent 3rd guardian.

So very unlikely your bird with avg Hp (+ the fact avg def & avg wis) can take a hit & survive it.
So the Agi Buff is kindly useless also..


Another Scenario B is, your Bird will QS the opponent 1, (hopefully can kill it, provided u has LS infront of your bird)
Then comes opponent 2nd Guardian, it's faster than your Bird,
and it OHKO you first, but u still can def-20 him,
making sure than your next phy guardian can ohko your opponent 2nd guardian.

So if me i'll give up Agi+20 for Berserk S.Bird.

If u give up the Phy4, your it could be like this,

Possible Scenario is, your Bird will QS the opponent 1, (hopefully can kill it, provided u has LS infront of your bird)
Then Scratch on the next guardian, with it's atk of 3855 plus minus enemy def-20,
We roughly assume the damage should be [(3855 x 0.85) - ((3000 - 20%) /2 (avg 5* def)) = 3302 - 1200 = avg 2102 damages]
Which i don't think can kill any reborn 5*, then after scratch first time,
your bird might not be able to scratch again to finish the opponent,
Even he does get to move twice in a row, he will get kill by opponent 3rd Guardian.
So i don't see this as a good move to remove Phy4

But i could be wrong. The above is just my own opinions.



As for my own S.Bird, i'm rebirthing him in a Sonic Bird.
With an Agi of 4189, i'm gonna keep the skills as - QS / Agi+20 / Phy4.

What i hope to achieve is put his as starter,
QS the Opponent 1, then Phy4 him to finish him,
Then with the Agi+20 and also his natural high Agi,
plus if opponent doesn't has a super high speed 5*,
my bird should be able to move again & OHKO Or damage the 2nd opponenent,
then my 2nd guardian with QS should finish the job.

However all this is just assumption,,
w/o practical try-out, won't know if it will work like this.

This post has been edited by negisf: Feb 20 2013, 02:18 PM
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post Feb 20 2013, 02:01 PM

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QUOTE(celciuz @ Feb 20 2013, 01:50 PM)
What does it mean by "coli locked"?

How do I know if a card is "coli locked" or not? This is forever?
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Coli Locked only matters when u r transfering the guardian from IGN A to IGN B..
Guardians that had enrolled in CURRENT Coliseum will be tied to that Coli.
IF you transfer that guardian to your another device, Your Device B won't be able to use that guardian in this CURRENT Coli.

There is no way to check if the guardian is locked or not, there's no indicator.. u just got to remember yourself.
Edited. Yes, Forgot that u can try to enter them to Coli to see if they are Coli-Locked or not, like what McBlade suggest
It's not forever, when the Coliseum closed, you will be able to move them to another device for next Coli.


You are new here, so just to let you know why SE did this.
Previously, there is players with multiply account. But they only have 10 strong guardian.
So what they do is they transfer those 10 from device to device to enter Coli.
So imagine, if the players has 3 devices, with just the same 10 guardians,
he could have similiar 3 ranking, since all the 10 guardian is the same,

This is not fair, therefore SE decided to coli-locked the guardian once u sign them up on 1 device

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post Feb 20 2013, 03:32 PM

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QUOTE(supermac @ Feb 20 2013, 03:06 PM)
u mean put it for auction at GCF auction section ?

hmmmm ... i never did auction before ~  smile.gif

sounds good , maybe i should try it .. any minimal iii rough estimation ?
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Just as an reference for you, i JUST traded my Cool Clean Garg for an Clean Power Phoenix.

If Cool Garg, it should be around 20-25 (iii).
I had people offer me 18 (iii) for my Sexy Garg previously.

As for my clean Iron Maiden, i too JUST traded it for a Clean Fast S.Bird.
(I'm not sure if this is a good trade, but who cares, i need the Fast Bird)..

And i received offer to buy my IM with 25 (iii) before.
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post Feb 20 2013, 03:34 PM

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QUOTE(mbr @ Feb 20 2013, 03:31 PM)
Ok guys, behave! Don't scare away FallenOut's wife. No sexist comments, as it might offend!
We are short of lady players as it is.  smile.gif
Market is crazy right now. Hard to tell... My suggestion is to wait it out another 48 hours till people run out of rebirth material then put it out and fish for offers.
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There is another lady players.. I've added her in game..
can't remember her name in LYN..
But her IGN SexyGine.

BTW feeders prices has inflation..
now with a (iii) u can only get 15SS , and not much people selling..
And i used to be able to get 55-60 SS for 2 (iii)
now its the best time for people Cash IN their SS for (III)

This post has been edited by negisf: Feb 20 2013, 03:36 PM
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post Feb 20 2013, 04:09 PM

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QUOTE(stitdawg @ Feb 20 2013, 03:40 PM)
i think gargan after rebirth got more market value since it will learn +25% attk.
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But don't forgot only Fast Garg people will like,
Other Garg will be too slow for liking, even if u has his atk & + 25%,
no use if others kill you before u can attack..



BTW Supermac, since u still wanna Ettin,
I have a guy buggin me to take his Ace Ettin..
Keep coming up with offers from my guardian list and try to convince me to trade for his Ace Ettin..
I told him i'm not interested in Ettin.. So i ask him to Pm u instead?
What;s your nick in GC forum alrd?


Haiz... now market really siao..
There is a guy post reborn Cool Gargantua almost FS.
Wanna sell for MINIMUM 70 (iii)...

So Super, maybe u just get another sexy gargantua n post another auction,
50 (iii) for it.. U can easily zhap stones required to FS 2 guardian

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post Feb 20 2013, 04:21 PM

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QUOTE(onelove89 @ Feb 20 2013, 04:17 PM)
wow, IM for Fast S.bird? thought S.birds are much more expensive? i guess their value dropped due to rebirth?
ppl keep offering me aces. but i'm dead scared of dupes. and it's still going on, one of the forum member got warning cos getting ace morri.
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Yeah... S.Bird value should be higher than IM, and beside, with Reborn, even non Sexy can double cast,
So Fast becomes the best type after Ace back..
So when the fella PM me, i quickly fast hand fast leg initate the trade with him, scare he later on change mind.
And MAIN reason is cause i have another fast bird, with this on, i would have a complete Sonic Bird


BTW bro, u have an Ace S.Bird?

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post Feb 20 2013, 04:25 PM

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QUOTE(funnyTONE @ Feb 20 2013, 04:22 PM)
I was checking out the auction section, and I can't believe someone sold his Ace Golbez fsemp for just 25 max lvl 4* feeder. doh.gif
Is it intel.
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Yeah.. i saw the Ace Golbez too.. wasted man.. when i saw that it was over..
I would go n level up 25 max 4* for that, i tell you...
Damn remind me.. i alrd damn sad yesterday,,, cry.gif

Nope it's not Intel. It's another Member,
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post Feb 20 2013, 04:37 PM

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QUOTE(funnyTONE @ Feb 20 2013, 04:36 PM)
haha, luckily i just saw it today. Not so heartbroken laa.
But the winning bid guy, he's quite rich in feeders and stones. Keep playing in a lot of auctions with buyout clause.
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Hmmm.. with Max 4* feeders getting high in demand now..
I wonder could there be duped cards on this instead of stones?


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QUOTE(supermac @ Feb 20 2013, 04:54 PM)
LOL ~ u selling ace morri ? maybe after the GCF member duped issue , make lot's of ppl worried ~  doh.gif

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WTF !! my fast barb FSeMP , agi 3900 , starting my deck , lose to a chariot ??? he move's 1st ..

damn piss i go check out GCX , dang .. reborn chariot , QS and agi 3955 , 55 point more than my boobies ..

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i remember chariot is something ppl don't want last time ...

puke***
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Yeah.. But now with QS, he is 1 hot horses...
Anyway if i not mistaken, even after reborn, he can't DC.


QUOTE(jkleejk @ Feb 20 2013, 05:01 PM)
Cool Gargantua also can get 70iii...then i got Pow Gargantua ...at least 80iii?  whistling.gif
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Yeah... siao ryte?? U know what? He got 1 of the cool gargantua from me..
He's the person i traded my garg for the Phoenix.


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QUOTE(supermac @ Feb 20 2013, 05:16 PM)
LOL~ he sure untung alot .. 80iii  drool.gif  makes me drool
Ace Thor  drool.gif  why not make it as your keeper if you already have a full deck , cox rebirthing a ace is much cheaper than rebirthing a best type smile.gif

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APa untung... langsung nobody bother to bid..
the market not really stupid 1 mar.. I meant who in their right mind would pay 70iii (min) for a cool reborn Gargantua?
Being almost FS doesn't makes a different..
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QUOTE(jkleejk @ Feb 20 2013, 05:25 PM)
Auction trade is one mostly over paid IMO ...i will stay out from it...
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Not really.. there are sometimes u can find realy really good bargain..

Just like yesterday,. some1 got an ACE GOLBEZ FSEMP for just 25 max 4* feeders..
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QUOTE(cyapd @ Feb 20 2013, 05:34 PM)
FS reborn Gilga don't play2, max atk also got 3k plus leh
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Not for Wise Gilga.. Wise Gilga only 3006..
Don't forget Wise -15& Atk..

And bear in mind, not only your Guardian stat increase,
other reborn guardian increase as well
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QUOTE(funnyTONE @ Feb 20 2013, 10:03 PM)
I lost to your deck by 2 guardians. Your barb attack first, but her elemental attack is weak. Your first 5 guardians mostly lose, but the last 5 are heavy hitters especially your gilga.

Anyway, here's the results for my social battle:

Nightwind: -1
Hbtiong: -6
jkleejk78: +3
WSK 710: -7
ProteusX: -3
MBR: +4
Marcus Yap: -2
Desilencer: -7
Last Wolf: +2

Overal, the new reborn 4* are not bad. Except for Angel which I feel lacking in firepower, the rest are mostly heavy hitters. Against speed deck, they have no chance, but pound for pound they can give those 5* decks a run for the money. Its quite obvious that most 4* guardians favor physical attack, and this is where they actually excel against 5* that mostly focuses on elemental attack.
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Wah. I kena bungkus cukup cukup by Funny.
A whopping -7
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post Feb 21 2013, 07:03 AM

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Morning guys...

Funny - here is a guy trading ace Agni.
But condition is must have a bad type Agni. I remember u caught 1. Try it out lar.
http://guardiancross-forum.com/Thread-Auction-for-an-Ace


Hehehehe. Feeling so good.. I literally just caught a 'water fish' from someone in GC. Someone posted wanted to trade his Fsemp fast Gilga for bad type Gilga plus toppers. So I just try luck pm him said I got a brave Gilga FS Wis, ask him how much stones (iii) I should top up. He replied in a short while asking for 20 (iii). I was thinking. 20 is not bad. I meant even if I wanted to FS my brave Gilga it would cost around the same stones amount. But just thought to push my luck further, I nego with him said 15 (iii), ok or not. Since my Gilga is decent type n wis FS. He said ok. Then I was worry its a scammer guy as his rep only 5. I ask to trade n gift later which he agrees too.
So completed the process all well ends well. Hehehe. Upgrade my almost clean decent type to Fsemp best type with just 15 (iiii).

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post Feb 21 2013, 08:59 AM

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BTW guys,

I noticed the GCX layout changed a little? U used to be able to view all information in 1 pages, how many u can OHKO, how many u can't OHKO, how can can OHKO u by phy,critical magic, normal magic..

BUt now i noticed it can't display every under 1 page.
Second difference is, they don't display how many u can OHKO alrd.. Only show those u can't OHKO..
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post Feb 21 2013, 09:09 AM

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QUOTE(mbr @ Feb 21 2013, 09:05 AM)
Kind of redundant to display both... might as well tell you how you should follow up your guardian in case of cannot OHKO.

Reminds me of a Lawyer joke
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Oh.. for me i will look at those that i can OHKO,
see if they can move before me.. So if i can move before them, then it's good.
If i can't move before them, then not so good


Bro Jk - Left corner?

BTW bro Funny - U had that many 4* max level feeders with you?
U've been keeping them all this while? or just acquired?

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post Feb 21 2013, 09:53 AM

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QUOTE(funnyTONE @ Feb 21 2013, 09:50 AM)
Yea, I've been keeping too many max level 4* since I started this game. Most times when I needed to level up my guardians, I simply eat those SS first. Too sayang to eat my max level 4*. Had around 20++. Hence why you never see me selling any feeders or 2*, 3* cards. Heck, I even level up my 3* just because.

Then there is this indo friend of mine. He just moved to Canada a week back, but he got a lot of max lvl 4* somehow. I suppose they probably like 4* very much! He even sold his Agni for just 15 max lvl 4*. Well actually he only asked for 10 pcs, but being my water fish, I marked up the price to 15. Both win-win. Just before he left, I ask him to sell me his remaining 4* feeders in exchange for a Pow Behe. You know how much he gave me for it....55 feeders! Must be my luck now that it seems everyone is looking to buy feeders. laugh.gif
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Wow... Intro me this friends of your...hahahaa rclxms.gif
I could use some of this kind of friends with benefits.. tongue.gif

LoL.. 55 feeders.. that's damn alot wei..

U & Supermac r probably the lucky fella around.. with 'good' friends..
he had ppl send him Aces.. U had ppl sell you good stuff at low price..

My best friend in game is you all people in LYN.. that help me around with tips, catalogue completion..
W/o this thread, i think i won't be going anywhere in game..

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post Feb 21 2013, 10:58 AM

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QUOTE(jkleejk @ Feb 21 2013, 10:52 AM)
Not really corner, the selection box corners... One option in the middle 'one shot by filter' just tick ON
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Ya, i saw that.. But this is show only those that can't OHKO.
It doesn't show those that u can OHKO.
I use to compare those that i can OHKO, see if i can move before them

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post Feb 21 2013, 11:37 AM

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HI people.. I doing a lucky draw to raise SS for my rebirth..
So if any1 of you people here is interested, tolong support sikit. Thanks!

http://guardiancross-forum.com/Thread-Luck...i-24-Hours-Left
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QUOTE(mcblade @ Feb 21 2013, 11:46 AM)
wow lottery thread! flex.gif  flex.gif  flex.gif  flex.gif
since tomorrow is ss catching day why don't you extend it to 48 hours to attract more participants?
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HMmm.. i think you are right,, ok.. I will go and edit it now, before more ppl see it.

QUOTE(mbr @ Feb 21 2013, 11:48 AM)
Submitted for 2 entries.
May be problematic to send 6 SS, as they would have to send twice.
I agree
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Noted.. Advise taken & Thanks for the support... rclxms.gif
Initially i wanted to put 5SS per entty, but cause thinking that it would be abit high, and if select 5SS,
hard to find equivalant for GS, So in the end, just go for 3SS/1GS.

Honestly, Since the prize isn't that fantastically great, i was only anticipating 1 entry for 1 participants.
And since it's only a 4*, i thought it would mainly attract new/low players.



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