You can sell at the GCF forum for 1-2 SS each

Ace qiong Ji is a good ace,but you must equip him with a phy +3 later when max else his atk would be useless. 4* ace is the only good type. The rest just use as feeder.

For the VM I'm referring as III stones.

Ahh, VM still out of reach for me then but definitely will reborn the IM sometime in the future I guess.

I guess the skill stones is very pricey now since everyone is resetting their guardian Physical +3 = how many SS on average?

I guess I should put the Vamp and Pazuzu for sale...? Or 1-2 SS each refers to the Ace Qiong-Ji?

Those normal ones would be 1-3 like that,varies based on popularity. Your ace qiong Ji at least 2 III at lvl 1

Phy +3 about 1-2 III or 20-50 SS like that. Now everything is expensive. Might as well take your time to level your QJ,by then market should be stabilized.

This post has been edited by cyapd: Feb 19 2013, 08:14 AM

Bad news and good news...

Bad news (for me) is that we cant rebirth 3* and below. So much for my little army...

Good news is, probably SE did increase 5* spawn rate. I shot down cool Phoenix last night, and fast Frank today. Basically successive sht, but on separate devices.

My condolences and congratulations!
Yea, I have quite a lot of SHT right now, but only usable in Berneside. Gonna have to level these newbies before I can release them in Desert. On average, I think for me its one 5* per 10 SHT. It does seems like the spawn rate for 5* is a little better at the moment. But that's always seems to be the case during a new update, a new event or a new version. SE is clever enough to know that there will be plenty of coins purchased during these times. Hoping by the time the new guardians arrive, I can hunt for them like crazy. Should be my last chance I should think. I'm through with coins in this game...

wah u all so keng 1 always get 5*... I used 3 SHT yesterday (2 got from Coli and 1 from daily reward) and only got 3* and a few 4* only. I also killed the big shadow in Volcano and got Sexy Dwarf gear... haiz...

and then I realise today that I cannot play in Novice Coliseum cos got lvl restriction. I'm like Now kena buli in Masters Coliseum... SIEN ARR!

bro i thinik i have nightmare ..

may i ask...

a ace fujin rebirth ...

skill wis-20 , wind+4 , revive ... no agi+20 ...

is it doomed ? consider as wrongly skilled ? no more market value ?

Why so scared? I'm not a big fan of Agi buff, coz your guardian might be dead before AGI buff take effect.

sigh ~ i was lvling him after reborn ... and very sleepy .. i accidentlly ter click don't change ... GG .. no agi buff...

but i would like to know .. standard skill set ... is it wis-20 or agi+20

agi buff question :

for example for my fujin ...

i know agi buff take place is next turn ..



mean now my turn to attack , i will cast agi buff , then no effect ..

then opponent time to attack ..

then back to my turn of attack ... here is where the agi buff take place right , means the fujin agi will be buff up by 20% where he is so much faster , might atk twice ...?

another question , if the fujin dies , and revive .. does the buff still on ?

and ermmm int golbez to brave golbez is a no no right ?

Wah. How many times u have asked this Q?
I think i seen more than 10 times..

Int Golbez:
Can ohko : 42
Can't ohko : 5
Can be ohko by (physical) : 12
Can be ohko by (magic) : 35

Brave Golbez:
Can ohko : 38
Can't ohko : 12
Can be ohko by (physical) : 10
Can be ohko by (magic) : 40

So can you see, the opponent that u can ohko dropped by 4.
Cant ohko increase by 7. So thats a minus 11.
Durability by physical only increase by 2. Durability by magic drop by 5.
So nett durability its minus 3

An add up both scoring its a minus 14.
So in my opinion dont bother go for brave. Its your loss.
U r only weaken your deck if choose brave



Bro Mbr, can i heard your opinion for Wise Gilga.
Go for Agi+25 or LS? Can explain abit your stand on this issue?
My wise gilga now lv69. Still thinking which skills to choose before final lv


Btw seems like night is missing for a few days. Havent seen him around

This post has been edited by negisf: Feb 19 2013, 10:21 AM

I seriously dislike multiple posts. Can't you edit your posts like others do?

WIS -20 is good because it amplifies the effect of your attack, but only for one guardian.

AGI +20 is ok because it amplifies your own stats and as long as you survive and keep on fighting, the buff stays. But it only activates the round after casting. This also helps to build up the ATB. Whether or not can attack twice depends on both teams' ATB meter (invisible, can't check, but can estimate, don't ask formula because I don't have it).

Not sure what happens after revive. I'd like to think that you retain all buffs, but I suspect once revived you get your ori stats back, without buff/debuff. Revive = resurrect as prior to battle??

As to choice of golbez, depends again on what your deck needs: a tank or an elemental attacker?

I personally have an Alm Brave Golbez as a tank and leave elemental damage to Shiva, Rubi, Serenade, Gilga...

many thanks bro the detail explanation , now i know ! i'll keep her ..

buthen ....

my fujin rebirth ...

consider wrongly skilled ? market value down the drain ?

sigh ....

Well, after LS you don't have any MP left to cast anything. Which is especially bad for Int and Wise, as the ATK is reduced too much for any decent damage.
Whereas if you survive the first round, Agi+25 will make Wise Gilga a rapid-fire lightning lance, and it should be able to kill a few before being taken down.

sorry for the mulitple post .. i dunno how to combine them .. will learn how to combine post later ....

ytd i done rebirth the 2 best guardian i have , fujin raijin ... i did try to your deck ..

almighty aspara , almighty golbez .. let u kill gao gao ..

can only see your 7th or 8th guardian only .. then my whole deck went down ...

rebirth ace raijin ... really really nice .. the revive activates chances quite high , i counted , more than 50%

and after revive .. even with normal scratch .. his attack is high .. quite pianfull ~

as for the ace fujin rebirth .. guess i'll stick with wis-20

because this both is my best guardian pair ...

** is there something call standard skill set anymore ? because of all the new skill and stuff ... last time if a guardian dont have standard skill set , is consider wrongly skilled , hence market value down like crab .. i know wis-20 is still okay not that bad , but will is be considered as wrongly skilled hence no market value ?

sorry for all those question , been panic the whole night

For me I'll chose that too. My preference for buff/debuff skills:-

Instant effect>next round.
Cause u might not be able to take a hit from opponent to enjoy your buff next round.

And if me I'll chose wis-20 for fujin too.
Fujins a magic user. So wis-20 will increase his damages and the same time reduce opponents damage (magic) to my fujin.


That's what I thought too. Maybe I'll leave him for now first. Wait till GCX has info on rebirth, then I'll check. If not many can OHKO wise Gilga. I'll go for the agi+25.
If alot can OHKO then not much use also. He died before can attack next round

This post has been edited by negisf: Feb 19 2013, 10:39 AM

Who cares about market value? You want to sell them, is it?
Choose your skill set based on how you want your team to be.

If you want Ls/QS combo, make sure you level them with the skills. If you want power overwhelming then go for ATK and AGI. If you want deck x2, then create a deck full of revivers. This is a versatile game. Don't just stick to one template. That would make it boring. Imagine Almighty Apsara with Greater Heal. Wouldn't that be annoying? But that kind of unexpected stuff is what makes the game fun. Go and use a golden slime in your deck if you want to. 9 Ss + 1 reborn ace 5* sounds like a good laugh too.

Enjoy the game! Don't let the game control you!

thanks bro ~ listening to you and bro mbr .. i feel much better now ..

because ytd i was in hospital the whole night .. my friend parent went very ill .. i'm there helping out .. reached home also 4am ...

then start the rebirth thingy ..

start with my ace raijin ... very smooth ..

then next my thor ... lvling up and stoning ...

then my fujin ... guess i rush it too much , eyes keep closing .. by that time is around almost 6am ...

then ter click don't change to replace new skill .. but lucky revive still there ..

if that time let me choose , i also will panic dunno choose agi or wis buff .. guess it's still consider a good choice ..

i'll be keeping him in my deck as permenant keeper with the raijin

i just love this pair i dunno why

thanks for all the help mbr and negisf


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Who cares about market value? You want to sell them, is it?
Choose your skill set based on how you want your team to be.

If you want Ls/QS combo, make sure you level them with the skills. If you want power overwhelming then go for ATK and AGI. If you want deck x2, then create a deck full of revivers. This is a versatile game. Don't just stick to one template. That would make it boring. Imagine Almighty Apsara with Greater Heal. Wouldn't that be annoying? But that kind of unexpected stuff is what makes the game fun. Go and use a golden slime in your deck if you want to. 9 Ss + 1 reborn ace 5* sounds like a good laugh too.

Enjoy the game! Don't let the game control you!
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yea , after listening to u .. i think i'm too dull by just following all the guides , rules , which best which good which must have ... didn't even try to think with my own brain , just follow like robot , who say which good just follow ...

true , don't let the game control your , thanks for your wise words , will look at the game differently like you now ..

btw ~ i met a few player in colli , at rank S .. also with almighty aspara , she's really beautiful ...

i see no 1 selling her .. damn , she pretty .. but does she perform well ?

your serenade always kill 2 guardian at least . where my ace serenade usually kill 1 then die ..

maybe due to deck arrangement


This post has been edited by supermac: Feb 19 2013, 10:47 AM

@supermac - take care of ur own body, GC not everything bro..