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TSignn_tion
post Mar 30 2006, 08:38 PM, updated 20y ago

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I'm actually driving a myvi and still new to audio systems. This is how I configure my 4-channel Caliber 2000W amplifier:-

2 channel to my JBL 12" woofer and 1 channel to my front 4" stock speakers. My
rear speakers (don't know the size) is connected directly to my original myvi
headunit.

My problem is sometimes the amp shut down automaticaly and I've got to wait for bout a min for it to switch on back. What's probably gone wrong ? I'm actually in my uni in perak and if possible, I wanna DIY myself. icon_question.gif

Another problem is that I'm not sure weather this should be the good configuration for an audio system. Any suggestion that you sifus can recogmend me ? Was actually thinking of changing to a better 4" speakers, is it worth it ? coz sayang wanna drill a hole at my door panel.


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post Mar 30 2006, 09:01 PM

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this is a good setup already... you are on the rite track... 4" speaker are best at vocals... get a 4" component then the sound staging will be lovely for the vocals... but if you wan more mid bass then no idea but to use a 6" mid bass...

bout your amp... i think it is over-heating... have you check whether it is hot when it shuts down? if it is... try to lower the gains for every channel... if the problem still presist then should get an independent amp for the sub...

hope this helps...

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post Mar 30 2006, 11:13 PM

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over heat bah
try to see whether the protection light is on during the shut down period
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post Mar 31 2006, 10:15 AM

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seems like amp overheat
TSignn_tion
post Mar 31 2006, 10:38 AM

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Lowered my gain ... So far seems to be alright.

About my configuration , should I disconnect my rear speakers from my headunit ? I've got a feeling that the sound comming out from my front speakers(amplified) and my rear(not amplified) are different and it sounds kinda weird.

btw, wuts the difference between 2ways speakers and 3ways speakers ? rclxub.gif Any suggestion on what types of 4 inch speakers should I get for my ride ?
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post Mar 31 2006, 11:34 AM

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the speaker you mention is component speaker or coaxial? component are consist of one pair of midbass(5"-6") or one midrange(3"-4") or even both of these, passive crossover and a tweeter... each speaker is separated from each other... while coaxial are those speaker that comes in one... one big cone and on top there is those tiny tweeters... usually component are for front fill while coaxial are for the rear fill...
IMHO... component sound will win coaxial sound hands down anyday, anytime... provide they are compared from the same range of product...

the sound that are connected to the amplifier will sure sound good as more power are feed onto it and the amp are able to control to cone more effieciently... thats why it produces more details of the song... using an amp to power a speaker will also minimize the possibility of sound clipping...

while our HU which built-in amp are jus 17W to 20W RMS... when you play your music loud... you will get distortion and most of the time, the amp is clipping... so you will hear that the sound weird...

IMHO... you can leave the rear speaker connected to the HU... but if it is interfering with your sound-staging then unplug it...

cheers...

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post Mar 31 2006, 02:14 PM

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amps are easily get hot especially when you bridge the channels to drive subs


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post Apr 1 2006, 08:18 AM

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Yea ... I think it got over heated. It usually shut down whenever I switch it on loud for a couple of min and then lower it.

Btw , I'm actually using a pair of stock speakers for my front and my rear. My front are normal 4" component speakers I think , and my rear , I'm not so sure bout it (never open it before). Actually added a 120W pioneer tweeter to the front. Now I'm actually planing to change the front 4" speakers. Any suggestion ?

I might change the tweeters also , don't sound nice to me.

Btw , I also would like to thank you all for sharing with me your experiance thumbup.gif
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post Apr 1 2006, 09:20 AM

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if you wan to change the tweeter and the 4"... then my suggestion would be change it to a component set... and power them with your amp...
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post Apr 2 2006, 10:28 AM

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Myvi front speakers are 4"? Damn.... that must be hard to look for component set if you want to use original location.
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post Apr 2 2006, 11:14 AM

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BMBoschmann RV4200XT... care to try?
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post Apr 2 2006, 08:57 PM

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QUOTE(soulfly @ Apr 2 2006, 10:28 AM)
Myvi front speakers are 4"? Damn.... that must be hard to look for component set if you want to use original location.
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can mount 5.5 inch mids at the OEM location
but fibre the door panel for a 6.5 inch mid isn't a tough job
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post Apr 2 2006, 09:41 PM

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QUOTE(driftmeister @ Apr 2 2006, 08:57 PM)
can mount 5.5 inch mids at the OEM location
but fibre the door panel for a 6.5 inch mid isn't a tough job
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Oh...myvi front can fit 5.5inch? biggrin.gif

But l wonder, the original myvi HU (25wx4) can drive component set or not. sweat.gif
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post Apr 2 2006, 10:08 PM

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if entry level component sure can la... it needs around 5W RMS to drive one... but not to its fullest potential only ma... so the best thing is still getting an amp... if on tight budget... a jalan pasar one will do already...
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QUOTE(daniel31 @ Apr 2 2006, 09:41 PM)
Oh...myvi front can fit 5.5inch?  biggrin.gif

But l wonder, the original myvi HU (25wx4) can drive component set or not.  sweat.gif
Actually can, but the result wont satisfy you.

I still suggest that you get a power amp to power your comps. If you power it direct from the HU, the treble and the mid will be 'overshined' by your subs.
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post Apr 3 2006, 10:12 PM

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QUOTE(soulfly @ Apr 3 2006, 08:37 PM)
Actually can, but the result wont satisfy you.

I still suggest that you get a power amp to power your comps. If you power it direct from the HU, the treble and the mid will be 'overshined' by your subs.
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Actually getting another sub is not a problem. the problem is the original Hu dont have any RCA. Now power a sub already have to use a high and low filter. haiz....
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l know this would lead to a question "Why dont change a better HU?". Well, last few months my kancil have been broke into by thief. kanasai....they not only stole my HU but smash my window somemore in daytime (while l,m working). doh.gif




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post Apr 4 2006, 01:27 PM

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go and find one AudioControl LC6... its a 6 channel hi input to RCA converter... not cheap though but its the best currently in town... you can set the gain for each channel... megashine in miri got sell this... but i didnt bother to get the price as i dun need it...

cheers...
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post Apr 7 2006, 11:26 PM

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Oh....if you know the price pls post it here ok? Thanks.
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post Apr 8 2006, 12:56 AM

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will try to get the price if i got go back there... you from miri or kuching?
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post Apr 8 2006, 02:14 AM

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l,m from Kuching. But if u let me know the price, at least l woundn't kena...."sembelit" by the shop. lol
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post Apr 8 2006, 07:13 AM

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hehee.. ok ok... will get back here once i got it... are you in a urgent need?
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post Apr 8 2006, 06:08 PM

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QUOTE(craziechild @ Apr 8 2006, 07:13 AM)
hehee.. ok ok... will get back here once i got it... are you in a urgent need?
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it's ok. Not so urgent. My wallet also dried liaw. blush.gif
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post Apr 9 2006, 02:42 AM

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wow bro, ur jbl 12" is old school 1 or waT?
u actually use the caliber to drive it? first time i heard the caliber amp can drive a sub..congrat.....break the new record already....
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post Apr 12 2006, 09:40 AM

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Yea .... its not satisfying actually. But kinda under budget , later got to change my HU and add another amp to power my speakers.


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post Apr 15 2006, 01:09 PM

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go custom make door-panel laaa.....fit vf 10 speakers aso can
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post Apr 16 2006, 02:34 PM

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how to change myvi HU unit? i thought it's come together with the plastic...
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post Apr 16 2006, 05:57 PM

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QUOTE(Sky.Live @ Apr 16 2006, 02:34 PM)
how to change myvi HU unit? i thought it's come together with the plastic...
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get the bracket rclxms.gif
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post Apr 16 2006, 11:20 PM

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QUOTE(driftmeister @ Apr 16 2006, 05:57 PM)
get the bracket  rclxms.gif
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how does it looks like? can i have a picture?
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post Apr 18 2006, 07:59 PM

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post Apr 24 2007, 11:54 PM

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huhuhu better u buy another amp for ur woofer..is not good for ur amp health.....hikhikhik...
2 amp is enough....and 1 crossover with 3 channel, sub, speaker, surround..
or EQ with pre-amp.....choose..hihihi
that is enough..if using in my kancil....can blow all the windows....
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post Aug 10 2007, 11:22 AM

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Seriously? - I'm also driving a Myvi..

I'm using a Caliber 1600W AMP, paired to a Critical Mass component set on the front, my sides are fiber'd 6.5" and the stock speaker location sits my tweeter, therefore it looks like stock on the outside..

My sub is a JBL 125W 10" Sub, will it hurt my AMP to do so? - But so far my AMP seems ok and no shutdowns whatsoever, but kinda concerned.. Hehe..

Hope the sifu's can enlighten me =) Many thanks!
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post Aug 10 2007, 05:49 PM

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Never heard before sub will hurt the amp....
Only amp can abuse sub only.
unless ur sub positive and negative wire touch each other when amp on..
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post Aug 10 2007, 10:28 PM

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hmm... mod the front door panel and lost the pocket? a bit "kesi" i think. possible to change to a set of 4" component and change the HU?

i think so far the best job among them would be the one along Jln ban Hock, near Hornbill there, but the price... abit pricey. so far they does good job, but they only do complete jobs, meaning to say setup your car at once.

i recall a shop that wanna let go a new Soundstream Xsc 2006 unit for Rm200, but i myself is hungering for that unit. still, if you're interested, i can try to ask which shop, coz my fren was at there setting his new component on monday.

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