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 AIR PC3200 TCCC OC Potential!, How to push this RAM???

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GKWong
post Mar 31 2006, 08:39 AM

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QUOTE(RacingTech @ Mar 30 2006, 08:24 PM)
Hello guys, I just bought the AIR value ram which using Samsung TCCC chipset on it, i wonder how much juice can we push on this baby??? At the moment i only manage to push it till 250mhz which = DDR500 with 3-4-4-8 timing. Is there any where to push it futher like....275mhz????  tongue.gif
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wut voltage are u running it at?
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post Apr 3 2006, 08:29 PM

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my samsung tccc runs at 2.8v vdimm before, the temp is warm oni...
btw...wut is the best timing the ram can go with stock 200mhz?
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post Apr 4 2006, 10:15 AM

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QUOTE(zahri @ Apr 4 2006, 12:52 AM)
Sorry for the misscomunication....

Tersalah tafsir.... Something wrong with me...... maybe... LACK OF SLEEP biggrin.gif
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u overclock urself then din run prime test to test ur stability... tongue.gif
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post Apr 4 2006, 10:56 PM

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QUOTE(antonio_zth @ Apr 4 2006, 02:25 PM)
Bro...sorry to dissapoint you but i dont think you got a Samsung Chip on your rams.

Btw have you tried reading it with Everest or CPUZ?
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yeap..indeed u are rite.
actually AIR OEM ram with samsung tccc chips are Mosel Vitelic 5ns ram chips that are re-labeled.

read this,
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Vitelic 5ns - This is 5ns ram from Mosel. It is commonly found in PC3200 offerings, and at this speed is rated at cas2-3-3-6. This is not bad, but nothing out of the ordinary. It is similar to CH-5 from Winbond. This ram can clock to around 240 MHz and hold decent timings such as cas2.5-3-3-6. If timings are kept at 2-3-2-X, then this ram will typically max out around 220 MHz. This can be found in Corsair XMS3200, Geil Ultra PC3200 and PC3500, OCZ PC3200 and PC3700. This is not a bad choice of ram at all. It offers great overclockability while still holding very respectable timings. Although Mosel is not a well known name in the memory industry, you can see that the top memory manufacturers are using their ram. If you can get these on the used market, they would make a very sweet deal. I have not seen these in Value Ram offerings, but that does not mean they do not exist. Identifying these can be somewhat difficult, as many companies re-label them. Take a look at the ram list to be sure of what modules contain these chips. You can identify these chips by the last 5 characters being SAT5B.
picked from atomicmpc.com
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post Apr 5 2006, 08:25 AM

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QUOTE(RacingTech @ Apr 5 2006, 07:25 AM)
Hi antonio_zth,

i will try the everest tonight, i didnt know that ram can be relabeled. Thanks for your information. But i dont think it is a big deal cause it can reach 250mhz then i am happy with it since it is a value ram.  biggrin.gif
GKwong.

Since you are a AIR owner, how about the chip on your ram, is it true that it is a fake samsung??? R u using the everest to test it?
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i use cpu-z and tested it is a Mosel chip. but actually many high-end ram also uses this chip, and sometimes they re-label it.
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post Apr 6 2006, 08:37 AM

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QUOTE(RacingTech @ Apr 6 2006, 07:05 AM)
Antonio_zth & GKWong,

After i tested with everest, it cant get any info on the chip, as for the cpuz, it show all zeros under the manufacturer column. So wat does this mean? By the way GKWong, wat type of chip is your ram, is it a BGA???
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huh...urs wan is not same with mine wan. mine wan under manufacturer wrote MOSEL, Serial number FFFFFFFF, Week 255 Year 255. it is a tsop.
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post Apr 6 2006, 11:05 PM

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yea...lets complain this to samsung about other company faking their chips! let samsung sue them!. wtf! mad.gif vmad.gif
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post Apr 7 2006, 09:02 AM

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but i didnt really hav the chance to oc my ram yet, coz my proc ady max out. maybe after got a barton oni can test it.
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post Apr 7 2006, 10:11 AM

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QUOTE(zahri @ Apr 7 2006, 09:48 AM)
i just realized that my processor is athlon xp 2200+

hehe.... i tought mine was 1800++

gkwong, ur prox max out at 200 ?
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coz if i raise the fsb more, prime will fail. sad.gif
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post Apr 8 2006, 10:32 PM

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QUOTE(RacingTech @ Apr 8 2006, 09:31 AM)
Below r some pictures of my RAM:

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Do you guys think this is a fake chip???
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my chip not same with ur wan...
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post Apr 8 2006, 10:33 PM

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QUOTE(Dreamworks @ Apr 7 2006, 10:54 AM)
Are you sure it's the proc's fault or your mobo? tongue.gif Just guessing since I've never used an Athlon XP before.
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abit nf7 shud not hav problem on fsb higher than 200mhz i think...
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post Apr 10 2006, 08:40 PM

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QUOTE(squall_12 @ Apr 9 2006, 11:46 PM)
is not a fake chip just is a tiny bga chip..
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is a bga chip, but is not from samsung....

 

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