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post Mar 30 2006, 04:39 PM, updated 20y ago

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just received my Titan Vanessa heatsink from ray99mond. thumbup.gif thumbup.gif

and as usual, my hands was itchy and i started to bend the fins back into the correct position, so i noticed some fins was loose (not bonded with the heatpipe) doh.gif doh.gif

thus i started my stove and put on the heatsink to heat it up to the soldering melting point to begin soldering the heatsink

as this heatsink was fast as dissipating heat and wind was blowing from outside, i was loosing heat fast.....so i set the stove on max fire...... icon_idea.gif icon_idea.gif

and then i started soldering......then i stood there for a while.....KABOOM !!! rclxub.gif rclxub.gif

my ear went deaf for a while, then i was like WTF, i got a cut on my abdomen and i look at the heatsink, and the heatpipe exploded !!! rclxub.gif rclxub.gif

looks like i've burned-in for too long until the heatpipe exploded man !!!

my mum thought i was dead coz it sounded like the stove exploded, and even the flame was put off by the explosion sweat.gif




here is the pic, there are actually 3 heatpipes folded in a " U " shape.
the middle heatpipe exploded due to extreme pressure, and it sounded like pipe bomb man

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a section of the heatpipe that was totally launched at my stomach man doh.gif doh.gif
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and my injured stomach, quite a deep cut, i was standing like around 60cm from the stove and it got me man mad.gif mad.gif
it aimed at me man vmad.gif vmad.gif

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it also send out molten tin from the base coz the explosion was really a big boom!!
just look at the stove area, covered with bits of tin.

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luckily i was wearin specs at tat time or i migh be blind de....look at the specs carefully !!!

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and look at my pants, small little stars rclxub.gif

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post Mar 30 2006, 04:40 PM

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after recovering from that, i've removed the useless section of the heatsink.

just look at the impact from the explosion !!! totally pushed the fins inwards !!


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and i mounted it on my Mobo, it's still doing well, at 45°C at idle for Barton 2.2Ghz at 1.9V, even my SI-97 couldnt get such low temperatures

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post Mar 30 2006, 04:42 PM

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wasted a heatsink
hahahah lucky its still working lol

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post Mar 30 2006, 04:46 PM

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omg!!! thanks for the warning. Heating heatpipe = no no. tongue.gif
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post Mar 30 2006, 04:52 PM

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QUOTE(abubin @ Mar 30 2006, 04:46 PM)
omg!!! thanks for the warning. Heating heatpipe = no no. tongue.gif
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warning : heating heatpipe = pipe bomb
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Heat+H2O=boiling water la...so its like a pressure cooker. Next time drill some holes to empty the water b4 u start heating it.
Lucky u dun have access to commercial high pressure stove and result a worst consequences.

Nice belly man..tht cut aint deep..jus a minor cut for me...a cut from sharp edges from a cut metal my finger 15mm x 2mm.

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post Mar 30 2006, 04:57 PM

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bro, if u drill a hole in a heatpipe, then u get a copper pipe, it's no longer a heatpipe.
heatpipe can transfer heat so well because it's pressurized
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post Mar 30 2006, 04:59 PM

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Thank god nothing serious happened to you. I bet your mom was worried. I felt the tension when I am reading your post. sweat.gif
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post Mar 30 2006, 05:08 PM

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QUOTE(AllnGap @ Mar 30 2006, 04:57 PM)
bro, if u drill a hole in a heatpipe, then u get a copper pipe, it's no longer a heatpipe.
heatpipe can transfer heat so well because it's pressurized
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I see...put ethanol in instead...hehe..will increase the performance...when the ethanol evaporates...it fills up the pipe. wait..cannot la..mus stick to water.

Btw..i dun see wikipedia telling me tht heat pipe is pressurized

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lucky thing u have your shirts on.. if not it might have penerated your belly and u would have a hole to drain out excess fat.

and radioactive, 15mm by 2mm aint deep cut.. i've tried 15mm by 7mm slit, by my own teeth on my lips.
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QUOTE(exkay @ Mar 30 2006, 05:10 PM)
lucky thing u have your shirts on.. if not it might have penerated your belly and u would have a hole to drain out excess fat.

and radioactive, 15mm by 2mm aint deep cut.. i've tried 15mm by 7mm slit, by my own teeth on my lips.
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Yah..shud have gone deeper..drain excess for free....hahaha..jk
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QUOTE(exkay @ Mar 30 2006, 05:10 PM)
lucky thing u have your shirts on.. if not it might have penerated your belly and u would have a hole to drain out excess fat.

and radioactive, 15mm by 2mm aint deep cut.. i've tried 15mm by 7mm slit, by my own teeth on my lips.
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i wore the shirt after i got the cut, but it's scary
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hey dont do anything stupid yet, i still got thinking to buy stuff from ya haha....
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post Mar 30 2006, 05:38 PM

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sur eu got THICK SKIN!!! jkjk

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post Mar 30 2006, 05:51 PM

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wow.....1st time i heard a HSF explode
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post Mar 30 2006, 06:10 PM

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AllnGap, lucky u r still here, else LYN will less one contributor for computers modification..and we'll kurang one sifu d.. and thanks for the warning... biggrin.gif
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OMG! Just knew even metal can explode sweat.gif
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Wow...nothing's cooler than itchy hands injuries.

Hope your didi is ok tongue.gif
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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Mar 30 2006, 07:27 PM)
Wow...nothing's cooler than itchy hands injuries.

Hope your didi is ok tongue.gif
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does he haf 1??? rolleyes.gif
lol....but seriously, does this happen to all heatpipes?? imagine if the processor reach tat kinda temp and the whole heatpipe boom....cant imagine the damage... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(sidewinderz @ Mar 30 2006, 07:30 PM)
does he haf 1???  rolleyes.gif 
lol....but seriously, does this happen to all heatpipes?? imagine if the processor reach tat kinda temp and the whole heatpipe boom....cant imagine the damage...  sweat.gif
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Smacks sidenwinderz!! rclxub.gif rclxub.gif
Kenot see picture kar?? shakehead.gif

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Ps: Heatsinks are not meant to be BBQ'ed. The gas inside expanded due to the extreme temps mar.
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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Mar 30 2006, 07:36 PM)
Smacks sidenwinderz!! rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
Kenot see picture kar??  shakehead.gif

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Ps: Heatsinks are not meant to be BBQ'ed. The gas inside expanded due to the extreme temps mar.
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oopps....haha....never take such detailed look at the pics...lol... sweat.gif

any idea wat is the recommended temps for the heatpipes?? i mean idle working range?
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It doesnt matter coz ure CPU is not supposed to reach even 80C even for a Preshott P4. biggrin.gif So nonid to worry bout exploding pipes.

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post Mar 30 2006, 10:30 PM

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I think its below 100C
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lucky u din get killed bro..how am i gona get fans from u tongue.gif
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post Mar 31 2006, 01:34 AM

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QUOTE(zzzz52 @ Mar 30 2006, 10:30 PM)
I think its below 100C
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Which cpu u know can reach 100C? heatpipes are usually filled wif water cuz the heat(from cpu) will evaporate the water and condenses at the cooling fins.

But this cooling scientist went to heat it until soldering temp. which is abt 190C...water turns into gas...like a pressure cooker without its pressure valve.
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time to heat up my mom's stove.
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m... next time don't do that again! smile.gif if u have nothing to do. watch tv or sleep will be better. smile.gif
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hmm.. somehow it left me thinking.. what would happen is someone turn on stove, then leave the whole darn heatsink burn there by itself ??

it's gotta be some pretty sight.
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You are a nutter. tongue.gif
Better make sure that you're still in one piece when I come back to Penang next time.... but yeah, the aftermath is just shocking.gif
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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Mar 30 2006, 07:36 PM)
Smacks sidenwinderz!! rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
Kenot see picture kar??  shakehead.gif

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Ps: Heatsinks are not meant to be BBQ'ed. The gas inside expanded due to the extreme temps mar.
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my didi is still in good shape, thanks for your concern laugh.gif

QUOTE(radioactive @ Mar 31 2006, 01:34 AM)
Which cpu u know can reach 100C? heatpipes are usually filled wif water cuz the heat(from cpu) will evaporate the water and condenses at the cooling fins.

But this cooling scientist went to heat it until soldering temp. which is abt 190C...water turns into gas...like a pressure cooker without its pressure valve.
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i think the temperature is more than 300°C, and it's impossible to get that temperature with the whole heatsink at that temperature on CPU alone

QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Mar 31 2006, 02:00 AM)
hoho~
time to heat up my mom's stove.
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if u got heatsink which has got lousy soldering, this is the way to make it right.
find a base (copper/Alu) to heat up and then mount the HSF on the base.

heat up until it's able to melt solder, and then dont heat it up anymore, if you heat beyond that u get a big bang like i did rclxub.gif
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If the fins or pipes or the base is not manufactured properly then just reject the thing. Everything is machine manufactured and we can't really replicate how it is made. doh.gif

Anyway it is kind of crazy and stupid to try and fix this. Its just not worth you life just to save a few bucks. doh.gif

If u r really unlucky, the debris could end up in your skull. Being blind is less of your concern then. Much more for your parents. doh.gif


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QUOTE(netmatrix @ Mar 31 2006, 02:16 PM)
If the fins or pipes or the base is not manufactured properly then just reject the thing. Everything is machine manufactured and we can't really replicate how it is made. doh.gif

Anyway it is kind of crazy and stupid to try and fix this. Its just not worth you life just to save a few bucks. doh.gif

If u r really unlucky, the debris could end up in your skull. Being blind is less of your concern then. Much more for your parents. doh.gif
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it should turn out fine if i had shut the stove way before it exploded.
i've put too much heat on the heatsink
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post Mar 31 2006, 03:12 PM

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Hmmm..... ohmy.gif Since like do some experiment, not take cover yrself for safety?? donno how to happen "Kaboom" rclxub.gif rclxub.gif after that got mess around ....... sweat.gif sweat.gif doh.gif

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oke.. this time the police will not fine me for selling this firework alternative this upcoming CNY. huhu lucky you're still in one piece. anyway, no need to post 1st ma. claim warrenty dulu.. huhu...

from the pics. you're shirt looks wet.. your didi was shocked till cry eh.

allngap. from your prediction, if the heatpipe was still oke.. what changes in temperature do you see from the full potential of the heatsink?


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QUOTE(Vorx @ Apr 1 2006, 02:14 PM)
Hebat Hebat!! rclxms.gif  thumbup.gif
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terlalu hebat laugh.gif

QUOTE(Vervain @ Apr 3 2006, 02:34 AM)
oke.. this time the police will not fine me for selling this firework alternative this upcoming CNY. huhu lucky you're still in one piece.  anyway, no need to post 1st ma. claim warrenty dulu.. huhu...

from the pics. you're shirt looks wet.. your didi was shocked till cry eh.

allngap. from your prediction, if the heatpipe was still oke.. what changes in temperature do you see from the full potential of the heatsink?
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maybe 1°C or 2°C ??? dont care anymore coz it's good enough tongue.gif

the secret in getting low temperature in this type of tower heatsink is to blow the fins and the base as well.
putting a fan at it's base could lower at least 2°C of the lowest u can get by mounting a fan on the fins.

QUOTE(ALIAS.JG @ Apr 4 2006, 10:59 PM)
what can't kill you will make ur com stronger biggrin.gif
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itchy hands are dangerous man

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Very true....itchy hands will do all those things by common sense will not do....i oso got my pair of itchy hands....itchy until open HDD casing to see it work..then remove the disk and see....end up screwing up the drive...but lucky i have not lost all myself...i picked the 10gb disk from my old P2...not my 120gb
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thanks god u safe.... huhuhu..
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huwah.... shocking.gif

wat is the temp to cause this???
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AllnGap.... u r really lucky bro ^^ thx for sharing though tongue.gif

but u still got mood to take all these pic arr ?

haha....
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the story continues a year later.........

heatpipe also can kaboom aa??
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lol..i was wondering, would the incident where the heatpipe exploded causes that heatsink to function better..lol..
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wah............. unbelievable...........it seems the T*l*b*n have fine another good b*mb on hand................

lucky the pipe was quite thin, didnt manage to make a super deep cut.........

i think next time manufacturer put a big warning sign on the heat pipe, do not cook it on the stove.........btw just wandering if manufacturer tested it the same way ?

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I was wondering, wat's the content inside the heatpipe? or it's empty at all?
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inside heatpipe contain nitroglycerin dissolved in nitrocellulose and a little ketone to in the mixing process. Its formula is, thus, similar to cordite lol
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man, that awful! thank God you're okay
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QUOTE(llllNarutollll @ May 26 2007, 05:01 AM)
inside heatpipe contain nitroglycerin dissolved in nitrocellulose and a little ketone to in the mixing process. Its formula is, thus, similar to cordite lol
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For industrial heatpipes may be. For PC usage heatpipes r actually very basic. Most if not all of them contain just plain water in a wicked pipe, that's all. There's no exotic liquids in PC heatpipes.
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QUOTE(ianho @ May 26 2007, 09:51 PM)
For industrial heatpipes may be. For PC usage heatpipes r actually very basic. Most if not all of them contain just plain water in a wicked pipe, that's all.  There's no exotic liquids in PC heatpipes.
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Water??? hmm.gif
Tats bad if it's only water. Means having the heatpipe only serves for cosmetic purposes rather than actually increasing performance?
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just read this thread...

so lucky la you.never expected it will blow rclxub.gif


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QUOTE(@meno @ May 27 2007, 12:06 AM)
Water??? hmm.gif
Tats bad if it's only water. Means having the heatpipe only serves for cosmetic purposes rather than actually increasing performance?
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you might want to go revisit the "thermodynamics attributes" of water to understand why water is such an interesting stubborn element when it comes to heat energy. that's what make them a good coolant.

oh btw, on an interesting note.. "didi" can also be considered a heatpipe rite? biggrin.gif

 

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