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G_KeN
post Feb 12 2013, 04:02 PM

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Dr Hazman melihat golongan India Muslim wajar mendapat pengiktirafan Bumiputera sekiranya ciri-ciri yang ada pada Bumiputera dipraktikkan

Ini termasuk menjadikan bahasa Melayu sebagai bahasa utama.

Dr Hazman berkata, "Mungkin satu kebimbangan satu asas orang akan tanya adakah orang India Muslim berkomunikasi dalam Bahasa Malaysia, ya sebab pada masa yang sama, anda boleh lihat Jawa cakap Jawa di rumah cakap tetapi iktiraf Bahasa Malaysia seolah boleh bahasa suku tapi bahasa utama ialah Bahasa Malaysia ."


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those bumi in sabah sarawak, orang asli. their main language is not BM.

so how arrrr???? why double standard wan??? izzit becoz of religion?
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post Feb 12 2013, 04:04 PM

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QUOTE(meazurali89 @ Feb 12 2013, 03:57 PM)
cina muslim still speak cainis,not bahasa malaysia
or i think dat the rezen sweat.gif
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bumi sabah sarawak, main language not BM,

how leh?

double standard?
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post Feb 12 2013, 04:08 PM

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QUOTE(meazurali89 @ Feb 12 2013, 04:06 PM)
termasuk dlm perjanjian sabah dan sarawak untuk join sabah
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then whats the justification of using one's proficiency in national language as the utmost requirement to gain bumi status?
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post Feb 12 2013, 04:20 PM

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QUOTE(adix4 @ Feb 12 2013, 04:14 PM)
want to be Malaysian, want to get bumi status

can't speak Malay

Lol wut
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bangang juga ko ni.

proficiency =/= whether or not the person can speak on the said language
drpd semua rakan cina yg ko jumpa, brapa ramai yg langsung x dpt cakap BM? 0?

dont fcking tell me all meleis speak baku BM.

geeezzzz. comprehension fail 101.
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post Feb 12 2013, 04:22 PM

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QUOTE(adix4 @ Feb 12 2013, 04:13 PM)
tak ingat tahun berapa, tapi dah tukar balik diorang kena cakap bm

at first main language bukan bm, sekarang diorang main language bm
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palak otak ko berjambul

have u been to sabah sarawak before? judging by ur post, u have not, and u made up uf fcking assumptions base on ur fcking lies.

ps: im a fcking sarawakian.

pffffttttttttt
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post Feb 12 2013, 04:25 PM

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QUOTE(~Slim Shady~ @ Feb 12 2013, 04:22 PM)
Read more la. You never go school or wat.
Bumiputera refer to penduduk asal Tanah Melayu b4 the form of Malaysia, Peribumi Sabah & Sarawak.

There are the differences between Malay and Bumiputera definition.
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eh, u better brush up ur comprehension skill lah.

and u better read TS article properly lah.

and then u better crack ur brain out to connect dots between those two subjects lah

lah.
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post Feb 12 2013, 04:26 PM

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QUOTE(joe_mamak @ Feb 12 2013, 04:23 PM)
I find it amusing that many Bumis are ok with this.
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im a bumi and im not ok with this tahi.

if they wanna give bumi status to indian muslim, why dont they just fcking give bumi status to whole malaysians whose generations had been staying here since hari merdeka?
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post Feb 12 2013, 04:31 PM

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QUOTE(adix4 @ Feb 12 2013, 04:26 PM)
oh god please be a retard, seriously you are a retard

two source since you are one lazy tahi and i malas nak quote buku and you need to read more about Malaysia
- Malaysia, Barbara Andaya Watson
- Malaysia: Tradition, Modernity, and Islam , Mauzy

read this two book and come discuss with me back, peasant

anyways

just got back from Sabah Sarawak last month whats up?
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geeez, let me just fcking quote u with ur fcking baseless assumption
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tak ingat tahun berapa, tapi dah tukar balik diorang kena cakap bm

at first main language bukan bm, sekarang diorang main language bm


bolded statement = proof that u've never been to sabah sarawak before.
dafuq BM = main language used by iabn, kadazan, etc etc?

either my comprehension skill very bad or ur BM is worse than some chinese here.
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post Feb 12 2013, 04:31 PM

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QUOTE(adix4 @ Feb 12 2013, 04:29 PM)
ITT: G_Ken is a 11 year old kid and he is a retard and also fail all her history test/exams
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ahahahah, resorting to personal result.

classy......


ahahahahahaha, lawak lawak..
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post Feb 12 2013, 04:35 PM

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QUOTE(~Slim Shady~ @ Feb 12 2013, 04:26 PM)
You need to be more social. You go to town, of course many Cinis can speak BM eventhough pretty shit one.
Try go to Cinis village around the town like kg baru cina, you can see many Cinis that unable to speak bahasa.
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oh wow,

your statement is implying as if majority of chinese cant speak BM.

QUOTE(~Slim Shady~ @ Feb 12 2013, 04:28 PM)
No you the one who should better crack your brain. Malay is part of bumiputera and i bet, you don't even know the definition of Malay in Malaysia.
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eh, since u're too dumb to figure out the main issue here, let me point em out for u okay?:

- indian muslim want bumi status
- some nut job professor agrees with that since they speak BM as their first language
- i was like werttt.....? bumi in sabah sarawak dont speak BM as their first language

u dont need to read a freaking book to figure out what a malay is. the definition of a malay can be found in the constitution itself.

but what bewilders me is that u tried to include malay inside the the discussion when the topic clearly states between indian-muslim and bumi.

haihh.....

This post has been edited by G_KeN: Feb 12 2013, 04:38 PM
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post Feb 12 2013, 04:41 PM

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QUOTE(adix4 @ Feb 12 2013, 04:38 PM)
still going to defend my statement, and yes you are still a retard

geez, let me do the tl;dr with you since you are stupid so you need help kan smile.gif

Timeline

1) Merdeka ( you know what merdeka means right? )
2) Sabah Sarawak wants to join ( You know Geography right? since you are a retard you need help identifying )
3) Sabah Sarawak doesn't want Bahasa Melayu to be the official language
4) Ok, but BM become second language, but you must learn ok
5) Ok then slowly they learn BM, at first Sarawak first declare they want to use BM then after few years Sabah

Since you don't learn History, remember why Hariss Salleh and Pairin Katingan got butthurt over this?

and you are a retard, and you are a disgrace to Sarawak.
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oh lol,

just becoz BM has replaced BI as the official language used in Sabah sarawak does not mean the bumi is using BM as their main language, get it?

trolololololol, you're a disgrace to all meleis here.
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post Feb 12 2013, 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(adix4 @ Feb 12 2013, 04:39 PM)
>tak faham concept Bumiputra

so... dah nampak belum problem kau?
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what do u mean by tak paham concept bumiputra?
mind to point out specifically which of my statements did not adequately meet ur level of comprehension?
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post Feb 12 2013, 04:45 PM

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QUOTE(adix4 @ Feb 12 2013, 04:43 PM)
>implying BUMI doesn't use BM in major towns in Sabah Sarawak

seriously, i doubt about you are from Sarawak. Any chance that you are Mindanao descent from Phillipine? Either way, you are Mindanao for me
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eh bugger, seriously, which town did u visit in sarawak?
did u visit song? kapit? do they speak BM even during trading?

and u're implying other races never use BM is just doh.gif , speechless.
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post Feb 12 2013, 04:47 PM

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orang cina nak berniaga dgn peniaga melayu, orang cina cakap cina je kah? mereka x pernah cakap BM dgn peniaga melayu?

bodoh
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post Feb 12 2013, 04:54 PM

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QUOTE(~Slim Shady~ @ Feb 12 2013, 04:47 PM)
Not majority but still a lot. Don't you think it was really shameful Malaysian can't speak their own national language while they claiming they are the part of this country.

And you're dumbo try to act clever. I believe what that prof actually try to say is, he want to include Indian Muslim as part of Malay too.
Like i said, there is a difference between Bumiputera and Malay definition. Some Sarawakian/Sabah people treat BM as 2nd language but still consider as bumiputera because they are fcking peribumi there. I surprise you also don't know about this eventhough you're Sarawakian.
You don't need to have degree to understand what i'm trying to deliver.
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lol,
you were trying to differentiate between a bumi and a malay

the article itself clearly stated that indian-muslim should be recognized as a bumi. im not sure if you're reading the same article as i did, but it clearly stated 'bumiputra status'

and in case u didnt know, article 160, 161 of the constitution stated that "Malay" and "indigenous peoples" (Article 160(2)), "natives" of Sarawak (161A(6)(a)), and "natives" of Sabah (Article 161A(6)9b)) are categorised as BUMI

im surprised that u did not read the article throughly. never did the article stated that indian-muslim should be recognized as a malay, but rather a BUMI
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post Feb 12 2013, 04:57 PM

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QUOTE(adix4 @ Feb 12 2013, 04:52 PM)
this is pointless, i'm not arguing with a retard

aku cakap lain kau cakap lain
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QUOTE(adix4 @ Feb 12 2013, 04:53 PM)
tak payah layan, 1992 rupanya tarikh dia lahir, no wonder argue macam budak kecik  nod.gif
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ahahaha, tak nak argue sbb point sendiri salah

and u're implying everyone in the internet reveal their true date of birth is just doh.gif

ahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahaha


funny lah u all, assuming most chinese cant speak proper BM when the fact that bumi themselves dont speak proper BM to begin with.

which is why i questioned the reason to use proficiency / fluency in national language as the main criteria to get bumi status.
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post Feb 12 2013, 04:59 PM

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QUOTE(adix4 @ Feb 12 2013, 04:57 PM)
hurr durr i am quoting using articles and constitution oh oh we have a smart guy over here
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ahahaha, and then what? you didnt even bother to reply becoz now u realize that u are wrong all the time.

hue hue hue
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post Feb 12 2013, 05:01 PM

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QUOTE(automan5891 @ Feb 12 2013, 04:54 PM)
Siamese in Malaysia also now bumiputra. I doubt they practise malay culture.
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these pipul cant differentiate between race and religion.

and these pipul clearly didnt read constitution, the very same constitution that they are trying very hard to 'preserve' to 'protect' their own race.


hue hue hue
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post Feb 12 2013, 05:03 PM

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QUOTE(~Slim Shady~ @ Feb 12 2013, 04:59 PM)
That prof doesn't need to explain shit one by one. Use your brain to understand.
By the definition that he gave, it definitely refer to the definition of Malay and Malay=Bumiputera in Malaysia.
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then why are u arguing with me that malays are not bumiputra in the first place? malays or indeginious pipul or sabah/sarawak natives, they are under the same category as BUMIPUTERA that enjoy BUMIPUTERA SPECIAL RIGHTS.

BUT,

first u said malays are not the same as bumi

then u said malays = bumi

pls make up ur mind.
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post Feb 12 2013, 05:05 PM

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QUOTE(adix4 @ Feb 12 2013, 05:01 PM)
bila aku cakap ni?

kah kah dahlah malas layan budak bodoh macam kau, suka twist ayat orang sendiri bodoh
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did i specifically said u were the one who said that?

trolololol. clearly u didnt read the whole thread and u're just anticipating my posts and reply em with ur worthless one line typical replies.

cant debate intelligently? post insulting one line replies. how classic...

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