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TSDark Adam
post Feb 7 2013, 04:35 PM, updated 13y ago

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a mortgage broker offer me for Hong Leong mortgage loan. semi flexi, conventional, 30years. .. what your advise?


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post Feb 7 2013, 04:43 PM

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post Feb 7 2013, 04:59 PM

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they offer -2.4 blr.. but i need to subscribe they credit card.. can discard after 4 month...

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post Feb 7 2013, 05:13 PM

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Take how much loan ?
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post Feb 7 2013, 05:28 PM

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Oh I think the last hong leong thread got a very big bashing


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post Feb 7 2013, 05:38 PM

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QUOTE(Alvinyeo @ Feb 7 2013, 05:13 PM)
Take how much loan ?
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340k..
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post Feb 7 2013, 05:39 PM

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QUOTE(Lcsx @ Feb 7 2013, 05:28 PM)
Oh I think the last hong leong thread got a very big bashing
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i tried to find.. but couldn't
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post Feb 7 2013, 05:42 PM

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http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=2672727&hl=


haha. I think most of the guys there enjoyed themselves
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post Feb 7 2013, 05:50 PM

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U managed to find
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post Feb 7 2013, 05:57 PM

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QUOTE(airline @ Feb 7 2013, 05:50 PM)
U managed to find
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the sales guy juz keep quite on all bad comment trow to hlb.. is he agreed?


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post Feb 7 2013, 06:06 PM

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QUOTE(airline @ Feb 7 2013, 05:50 PM)
U managed to find
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Haha I thought u were bashing Hong Leong too
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QUOTE(Dark Adam @ Feb 7 2013, 05:38 PM)
340k..
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PB can offer the same thing with full flexi. hmm.gif
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post Feb 7 2013, 08:18 PM

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QUOTE(Alvinyeo @ Feb 7 2013, 07:54 PM)
PB can offer the same thing with full flexi.  hmm.gif
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what is the difference between full flexi and semi flexi? rclxub.gif
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post Feb 8 2013, 09:19 AM

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housing loan why not u try rhb, and ocbc first before accept hlb?
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post Feb 8 2013, 09:24 AM

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QUOTE(661188 @ Feb 8 2013, 12:03 AM)
I have Housing Loan, Car Loan, Cr Card, FD, Current Acc with them > 10yrs. So far didn't give me any problem  rolleyes.gif
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post Feb 8 2013, 10:30 AM

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all bank hv their own standard... sometime one time horror experienced dealing with they customer service make u disappointed and assume that is the way they treat they customer.. that's the important to maintain a group of people with great knowledge and skill in team of customer service... not a fresh grad (without any idea of company product) or woman/man who're having big personal problem.. my 1cent..

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can i have te hlb banker details? quite impresive offer -2.4 for 340k..
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post Feb 14 2013, 04:40 AM

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QUOTE(Dark Adam @ Feb 7 2013, 04:59 PM)
they offer -2.4 blr.. but i need to subscribe they credit card.. can discard after 4 month...
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Credit card is not compulsory. The officer just want to hit target so force you take the card. The officer ask you to discard after 4 months because if you discard earlier, Hong Leong will deduct back the officer's commission. nod.gif

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post Feb 25 2013, 10:30 PM

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I got from CIMB -2.2 cry.gif So low meh? Others bank offer -2.3 and -2.35, but still not sure.
How is HLB full flex? Any one taking such loan?
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HL Islamic loan is basically the same as conventional but has no lock down period. Even better. Your income must be halal though..
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post Feb 25 2013, 10:48 PM

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Why some taikors i know anti gao gao hong leong bank ya? My current prop, i submitted to all banks i know. None has come back except hong leong. Shocked! I usually stick to GLC. Maybe this time i am gonna try them
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QUOTE(AMINT @ Feb 25 2013, 10:48 PM)
Why some taikors i know anti gao gao hong leong bank ya? My current prop, i submitted to all banks i know. None has come back except hong leong. Shocked! I usually stick to GLC. Maybe this time i am gonna try them
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Boss, still BBB?
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QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ Feb 26 2013, 12:31 AM)
Boss, still BBB?
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QUOTE(smon80 @ Feb 25 2013, 10:30 PM)
I got from CIMB -2.2  cry.gif  So low meh? Others bank offer -2.3 and -2.35, but still not sure.
How is HLB full flex? Any one taking such loan?
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Wonder y so low.. Now days they are offering -2.5 but should be more than 500K..
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QUOTE(AMINT @ Feb 25 2013, 10:48 PM)
Why some taikors i know anti gao gao hong leong bank ya? My current prop, i submitted to all banks i know. None has come back except hong leong. Shocked! I usually stick to GLC. Maybe this time i am gonna try them
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HLB keep one eye close for their existing customer, some more u big boss.. biggrin.gif
i got HP with them and wish to apply for housing loan, the banker say no problem to approve but they only can offer tenure up to 30 years only..
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Hong leong can approve. Headache later on only.
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Just to check with you guys, I have been informed by a banker that for 2nd housing loan, maximum loan amount that can be approved only 80%, couldn't get 90%. Is that true? This info coming from UxB. Hmm..
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QUOTE(zonefinder @ Feb 25 2013, 10:44 PM)
HL Islamic loan is basically the same as conventional but has no lock down period. Even better. Your income must be halal though..
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but islamic loan cannot approve loan which need to segregate out the car park as separate loan.
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QUOTE(peri peri @ Feb 27 2013, 11:52 AM)
but islamic loan cannot approve loan which need to segregate out the car park as separate loan.
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Oooo this is something new. How about shoplot that can have individual title for 1st and ground floor?
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QUOTE(AMINT @ Feb 27 2013, 11:54 AM)
Oooo this is something new. How about shoplot that can have individual title for 1st and ground floor?
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wah, so good, but should be strada title since both are on same land parcel. Just like townhouse.

easy bro, apply 2 loans.
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QUOTE(peri peri @ Feb 27 2013, 11:52 AM)
but islamic loan cannot approve loan which need to segregate out the car park as separate loan.
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I'm learning something new...property and car park separate...admit I've never heard of this one before..
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QUOTE(peri peri @ Feb 27 2013, 11:57 AM)
wah, so good, but should be strada title since both are on same land parcel. Just like townhouse.

easy bro, apply 2 loans.
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Alamak apply 2 loans meaning got extra legal fees etc
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QUOTE(ceveori @ Feb 27 2013, 11:06 PM)
I had housing/ car loan with HLB before rclxms.gif  good service for me  thumbup.gif
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If those HLB staff was previously from EON Bank, i believe is good. I experienced before
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QUOTE(wenkernboys01 @ Mar 25 2018, 12:24 PM)
Not very efficient at all! Hong Leong Bank are lousy! Because their debit card has some problems, cash withdraw are inefficient, i try withdraw money from HLB ATM machine with my mom HLB debit card (i help my mom to withdraw cash from her debit card as she need it) but when the money from HLB debit card has been deducted after cash withdraw, cash did not dispenser and machines starts "OUT OF SERVICE" which is STUPID! Thankfully i still have BSN Visa Debit Card and i have no problem with BSN bank but Hong Leong Bank makes me angry when it comes to their debit card cash withdraw system! I have a Hong Leong Bank Joint Savings Account with fixed deposit but i gonna switching to CIMB Bank for Debit Card+Online Banking. Of course, HLB staff are rude and not friendly at all!
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Biasa.....just use whatever bank that give u best benefits.
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Mar 25 2018, 01:24 PM)
Almost all banks at some point in time will disappointed you.
Biasa.....just use whatever bank that give u best benefits.
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haha, i agree with you. not only in banking sector, in other industry/sector also same. the bigger and the more extensive the company, tends to have more problem on their service. some might enjoy top top service but some unlucky one might disappointed with their service. Depend on luck rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif
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Anybody has Hong Leong housing loan agent contact??
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After read this clause again and do some simulation and found out your clarification is seem not what the clause meant...

Interest chargeable is either (a) outstanding principal minus extra cash balance or (b) 70% of outstanding principal, whichever is lower

If my outstanding principal is RM1. 2 mil
Extra cash balance is RM300k

So
(a) 1.2 mil minus 300k equal to 900k OR
(b) 70% of outstanding principal = 0.7* 1.2 mil equal to 840k

Then interest chargeable is whichever lower..

So my interest chargeable is RM840k... Whichever is lower

However, it does not make sense, if I don't put any extra cash inside the current account, the bank already given me 70% on the outstanding principal.... Will the bank gives such good deal??
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QUOTE(wenkernboys01 @ Mar 10 2019, 09:23 PM)
Well I don't recommend the Hong Leong Bank for everything banking, even for the mortgage loan.

I tell you guys why, please don't take those reason seriously.

1. Online Banking: I hate Hong Leong Connect online banking, when it comes to shows transaction history, what the hell is this?! They spilt between banking account and debit card transactions history! Look, banking account transaction shows on normal transaction history, but debit card transactions shows on a separate transaction history called "debit card transactions history"! My maybank online banking don't have those issues so far, all banking and debit card transactions always shows in just single transaction history, not a separate ones.

2. Cash withdrawal and account linking: Hong Leong Bank accounts and debit card has some problems, when only one account (i mean one pay & save account) linked to a single debit card, when it comes to withdrawal, a pay & save savings account shows as current account, not a savings account?! WTF?! I through it was a savings account! This is so weird! And when i use the hlb debit card with one pay & save account linked to withdrawal cash at any meps atm, I had need to choose current, not savings. Stupid! My maybank debit card has 1 savings account linked, but when withdraw cash at any meps atm, I only need to choose savings, not current, no problem. I still have Hong Leong bank debit card and banking account because my mom still forced me to use that bank so i don't have a chance to do that but luckily I'm now stop using Hong Leong bank debit card and banking account unless i went to HLB branch to deposit my cash and then use hlb online banking or atm to transfer my money from HLB to Maybank.

3. Cash deposit machine: As I said, Hong Leong bank has a worst cash deposit machine I ever seen! it keeps out of service in all branches consistently! This is so stupid! Of course when I went to HLB branch alma, I saw there is too long queue because of two machines has some differences, only 1 machine works and 1 machine still maintenance.

That's all the reason why I don't want to recommend Hong Leong bank for everything, even for loans and credit cards! If you don't care about banking experience, by all means go for HLB, but for lot of people, I would recommend the others malaysian bank such as maybank, cimb, public bank and rhb for everything banking.
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Hi, Hong Leong pay and save account is CURRENT ACCOUNT. So of course it's tagged as current account in ATM. Previously they even offer cheque book with that account. What's the problem of just choosing current account when go withdraw? So hard meh?

Cash deposit machine very subjective. Many banks also same depending on time and location. Either machine full or got error/faulty. You think bank so free simply make a cash deposit our of order? Some customer even put paper clip , stapler bullets and other non cash item into machine
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hi All

i have a question about semi flexi house loan Hong Leong bank. Let say my loan is 400k and i decided to pump in an amount RM100k into advance payment, will it reduces my interest rate on monthly basic? or should i do partially settlement?

which one is better?



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QUOTE(Pizza Hut @ Aug 12 2019, 05:15 PM)
hi All

i have a question about semi flexi house loan Hong Leong bank. Let say my loan is 400k and i decided to pump in an amount RM100k into advance payment, will it reduces my interest rate on monthly basic? or should i do partially settlement?

which one is better?
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Yes for the RM100k that you pumped in will reduce principal hence reduce interest
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Yes for the RM100k that you pumped in will reduce principal hence reduce interest
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you mean pump 100k into advance payment can reduce principal and interest?
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QUOTE(Pizza Hut @ Aug 12 2019, 05:47 PM)
you mean pump 100k into advance payment can reduce principal and interest?
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the advance payment will reduce the loan interest amount per month... with same instalment amount but lower interest, hence more monthly payment towards principal and hence the loan will be payoff earlier...

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QUOTE(Pizza Hut @ Aug 12 2019, 05:47 PM)
you mean pump 100k into advance payment can reduce principal and interest?
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Yup and to settle your loan earlier
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Any advance payment need to write in to inform HLB first before we can do so right? As I paid extra using online transfer to my bank account but end up it shown as excess payment instead of offset the principal. Anyone can enlighten? Thanks
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QUOTE(brianccg @ Aug 13 2019, 08:52 AM)
Any advance payment need to write in to inform HLB first before we can do so right?  As I paid extra using online transfer to my bank account but end up it shown as excess payment instead of offset the principal. Anyone can enlighten? Thanks
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my guess is not everyone is briefed on what they signed up for or even bother to listen to banker when they signed up.

generally advance payment will reduce interest, just that some conditions may apply between full flexi and semi full flexi.

for semi flexi overpayment might resulted in penalty.

pls call your loan officer and come out for yamcha lah….

as for withdrawal of advance payment, a written letter is normally required.

my response is just general pic. always referred to the contract signed.
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QUOTE(brianccg @ Aug 13 2019, 08:52 AM)
Any advance payment need to write in to inform HLB first before we can do so right?  As I paid extra using online transfer to my bank account but end up it shown as excess payment instead of offset the principal. Anyone can enlighten? Thanks
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This what i understand from loan officer below.


If it full flexi, you may place it at current account to reduce interest. This is an example in link below how it helps to reduce your daily interest daily.

https://www.hlb.com.my/en/personal-banking/...tgage-plus.html

for some bank which do not have separate current account. Then they deposit directly into loan account. Same concept.

If you insist on advance payment direct on loan account (reduce principal) Then you must only do it through counter. Otherwise, i think additional amount on monthly installment does not goes to reduce interest or principal. It will just collecting there and auto-deduct for next installment.


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QUOTE(shujiro89 @ Aug 13 2019, 05:25 PM)
This what i understand from loan officer below.
If it full flexi, you may place it at current account to reduce interest. This is an example in link below how it helps to reduce your daily interest daily.

https://www.hlb.com.my/en/personal-banking/...tgage-plus.html

for some bank which do not have separate current account. Then they deposit directly into loan account. Same concept.

If you insist on advance payment direct on loan account (reduce principal) Then you must only do it through counter. Otherwise, i think additional amount on monthly installment does not goes to reduce interest or principal. It will just collecting there and auto-deduct for next installment.
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Thanks clarify.

My CIMB full flexi work on the 1st scenario and the problem is I would not know what is my balance loan sum to be exact if i decided to take out all the excess money that i put in the loan account.

As for my HLB loan, since it is term loan, so I think i need to write to bank if i decided to dump in some money to settle the principal
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actually hlb increase their base rate from 4.03 to 4.13 in january 2019. i as one of their house loan borrower didnt get inform about the raise of the br. even the recent 0.25 drop also didnt inform.

borrow 500k, now still at 4.4%, public bank already offer at 4.15%.
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QUOTE(darkterror15 @ Oct 2 2019, 02:19 PM)
actually hlb increase their base rate from 4.03 to 4.13 in january 2019. i as one of their house loan borrower didnt get inform about the raise of the br. even the recent 0.25 drop also didnt inform.

borrow 500k, now still at 4.4%, public bank already offer at 4.15%.
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They can appeal for you isn’t it ? Just give them sometime to appeal for you?
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They can appeal for you isn’t it ? Just give them sometime to appeal for you?
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nope, the base rate u cannot nego, u can only nego for the spread, lets say 3.85 + 0.55, u can nego for the 0.55 but not the 3.85, and since my loan already signed before the base rate change, i cant do anything other than refinance few years later.

just a little bit pissed why they didnt formally announce, or even give me an email/letter
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Hello sifus. I want to ask about this HL semi flexi loan. Property still in construction so now still paying interest. But I always received the statement after the payment due date. May I know how do we know how much interest to pay each months to avoid late charges if the statement balance always come after the payment due date?
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QUOTE(Nemozai @ Dec 12 2023, 05:57 PM)
Hello sifus. I want to ask about this HL semi flexi loan. Property still in construction so now still paying interest. But I always received the statement after the payment due date. May I know how do we know how much interest to pay each months to avoid late charges if the statement balance always come after the payment due date?
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Contact the officer that handle your loan application and screw him/her properly. He/She should has the courtesy to help you to prevent all these late charges or extra payment.
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QUOTE(Nemozai @ Dec 12 2023, 05:57 PM)
Hello sifus. I want to ask about this HL semi flexi loan. Property still in construction so now still paying interest. But I always received the statement after the payment due date. May I know how do we know how much interest to pay each months to avoid late charges if the statement balance always come after the payment due date?
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Well, he/she should've helped you to try adjust the statement dates before it's disbursed, long term solution should be writing in to them however it's already 2023, there's online banking, can on the spot check la and unless your construction progress is crazy fast, the monthly progressive interest doesn't varies much.

Either write to them to adjust, get online banking or just dump a sum enough for 6 months
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QUOTE(smon80 @ Feb 25 2013, 10:30 PM)
I got from CIMB -2.2  cry.gif  So low meh? Others bank offer -2.3 and -2.35, but still not sure.
How is HLB full flex? Any one taking such loan?
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I got one full flex with HLB, 4.05%, every month RM10 for the fee
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QUOTE(IAmYourFather @ Dec 12 2023, 10:50 PM)
I got one full flex with HLB, 4.05%, every month RM10 for the fee
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so good the rate, how much u borrow? 500k above?
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QUOTE(IAmYourFather @ Dec 12 2023, 11:50 PM)
I got one full flex with HLB, 4.05%, every month RM10 for the fee
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Daily interest?
If so, got threshold of 60% principal??
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QUOTE(woolei @ Dec 13 2023, 10:18 AM)
so good the rate, how much u borrow? 500k above?
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try MBB, PBB, you may get as low as 3.85% depends on your loan size
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there's an offer from 1 bank (shhh... even their competitor also dunoe about the current package) offering lowest 3.8% + OD, min 2% MRTA. non capping (means you can pay up 99% of your loan amount & save interest bruce.gif )

but too bad, the promo gonna end by dec 31, 2023 and applicable to:
1. landed house (condo, low cost flat, town house & commercial all x boles)
2. prime & secondary area (mainly KL & Selangor, most of the area of Penang & Johor excluded)

cons:
1. longer approval period (take about 2-3 weeks)
2. hard to fight market value console.gif
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QUOTE(woolei @ Dec 13 2023, 10:18 AM)
so good the rate, how much u borrow? 500k above?
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Yeah 540k if not mistaken
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post Dec 13 2023, 08:19 PM

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QUOTE(Jagalat @ Dec 13 2023, 03:22 PM)
Daily interest?
If so, got threshold of 60% principal??
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Yup daily. Err got limit cannot pay fully within xx years (need to check back).
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post Dec 14 2023, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(dannychen @ Dec 13 2023, 05:11 PM)
try MBB, PBB, you may get as low as 3.85% depends on your loan size
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QUOTE(IAmYourFather @ Dec 13 2023, 08:18 PM)
Yeah 540k if not mistaken
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ya, bank offer good good rate if borrow more $, ok thank.
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Hi, anyone know what's this charge for in my HLB Mortgage Plus loan account? MISC COST (Auto) - Seems to be charged yearly.
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post Dec 15 2023, 02:27 PM

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Hi, anyone know what's this charge for in my HLB Mortgage Plus loan account? MISC COST (Auto) - Seems to be charged yearly.
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Fire insurance
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QUOTE(jojolicia @ Dec 15 2023, 02:27 PM)
Fire insurance
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Ah right, forgot about that. They should label it more explicitly.

Thanks for the info notworthy.gif
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post Feb 15 2024, 08:48 AM

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If I am not wrong, there is an upper limit for the amount of advance payment that can be used to reduce the interest. E.g. if your current outstanding amount is 500k, the amount of interest that you need to pay monthly is the same when you have advance payment of RM 150k in the semi flexi account vs you have RM 300k of advance payment.



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post Jun 1 2025, 03:15 PM

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QUOTE(kcp88 @ Feb 15 2024, 09:48 AM)
If I am not wrong, there is an upper limit for the amount of advance payment that can be used to reduce the interest. E.g. if your current outstanding amount is 500k, the amount of interest that you need to pay monthly is the same when you have advance payment of RM 150k in the semi flexi account vs you have RM 300k of advance payment.
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post Jun 1 2025, 03:25 PM

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QUOTE(kcp88 @ Feb 15 2024, 09:48 AM)
If I am not wrong, there is an upper limit for the amount of advance payment that can be used to reduce the interest. E.g. if your current outstanding amount is 500k, the amount of interest that you need to pay monthly is the same when you have advance payment of RM 150k in the semi flexi account vs you have RM 300k of advance payment.
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post Jun 1 2025, 08:48 PM

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QUOTE(eimane @ Jun 1 2025, 03:25 PM)
30%
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I think is for first 2 yrs only right?

 

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