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post Feb 5 2013, 06:51 PM, updated 13y ago

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http://www.mmail.com.my/story/%E2%80%98com...%E2%80%99-46605

‘Compelled by federal govt’s failed promise’
TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 05, 2013 - 15:04
by A. Sangeetha
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THE federal government’s alleged failed promise in providing a light rail transit (LRT) or monorail system or the Penang Outer Ring Road (PORR) compelled the state government to introduce the RM8 billion integrated road infrastructure project.

“The BN government failed to deliver their promise that could have reduced traffic congestion on the island. Where is your LRT you promised seven years ago?” asked Chief Minister Lim Guan Eng.

“Now they promise a monorail but if you couldn’t fulfill the LRT then, don’t think that Penangites will believe you now.”

He said that although the present government preferred the tram system, outer ring roads and highways were necessary to free up the roads from congestion.

“You have to take into account the number of vehicles coming in. I think we need alternative roads to free up some of the heritage areas that are now main roads. So, you can’t close the roads for events because you block up traffic,” he said.

“Of course, we prefer the tram but it cannot be done because that is under the federal government.”

Guan Eng said the Pakatan Rakyat would accept the Penang Outer Ring Road project if the federal government changed the alignment.

If the alignment comprised tunnelling instead of “going over the hill”, it would solve a lot of problems as well as the need to stop human resettlement.

“Most of our projects do not have problems of impact on the environment and humans. There would hardly be any human resettlement because it is largely on unoccupied areas and road reserves,” he said.

“The Air Itam underpass goes under the hill but it is land that is uninhabited.

We need roads across to Paya Terubong and Tanjung Bungah and an outer ring road from Gurney Drive to the expressway for public access.

“These are critical. There many foreign examples where roads are built under hills but we will wait for the detailed environmental impact assessment.”

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post Feb 5 2013, 09:26 PM

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The proposed road infrastructure is very similar to those in Hong Kong and Tokyo.
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post Mar 27 2013, 10:31 AM

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QUOTE(subrok007 @ Mar 27 2013, 10:12 AM)
I absolutely objection with the proposal of seatunnel.

Solve the island transportation first ma, implement like LRT or monorail then built more parking space, then realignment of rapid penang to cope with LRT or monorail.

penang island area is only about 1048km2 but our population is about 1500km2 whereby car registration is 2xxxkm2.. that's y all street, main road, highway jam.....  mad.gif
this only penang worker and penang lang stay.. what bout holiday?? Car bound to penang island shall exceed 3xxxkm2...  vmad.gif

built so many link to penang island for what.. get more jam ka..

second bridge is ok because let those factory worker exit penang island fast during peak hour like 7-9am and 5-7pm... but sea tunnel is at tanjung tokong area.. perhaps that area consider is mild to less worker only and those who working hotel line...
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Problem is that it is said Putrajaya shelved monorail project few years ago, only to revive it near election time.
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post Mar 27 2013, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(subrok007 @ Mar 27 2013, 11:34 AM)
during badawi era, he ceased all those mega projects including this and some kl mega project also.. the reason he given is because our country cant bear the construction cost.. after 308 election penang win by PKR... not so long badawi declared step down.. najib took place.. this 5 years time ruled by najib didnt brings up for monorail project for penang.. (because penang lang vote for pkr ma see what pkr can do anything o not lo, kind of politician way) so now they bring up again for next election to attract penang lang voter...

i dont care who rule penang, BN ka or PKR.. the important thing is bring the penang economic to highest point. upgrade transportation, tourism etc... 

but if PKR rule penang, tokong LGE still can always proposed the project to federal ma, why wan use the fund to built sea tunnel leh??

those PORR, higway link here link there... end up also jam.. because ppl still using car... see the singapore.. no need highway link here link there.. wanna link like roller coaster meh...
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Penang itself do not have fund for the tunnel. The tunnel, what they said, is mostly funded by giving reclamation rights for the land not far from Gurney, that will pay for the infrastructure such as tunnel and bypass roads.

Penang wants to run their own bus company for routes that are not served by Rapid Penang, but it is said to be rejected by Putrajaya, as does the proposal to pay RM 10 million for Rapid Penang to offer free bus rides during peak hour.
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post Mar 27 2013, 11:50 AM

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QUOTE(subrok007 @ Mar 27 2013, 11:45 AM)
if i not mistaken the proposal is from china comp, once this things build the main financed shall from china comp, (means we loan again).

the sea tunnel location is at tanjung tokong upper gurney drive a bit.

http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?sec=n.../20110429145240
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Nope. Payment based on 110 acres of reclaimed land from the sea. It is similar to what the previous Penang government did on Jelutong Expressway (now Tun Dr Lim Chong Eu expressway) which was funded by giving the developer the right to reclaim land (325 acres) which is now being developed as "The Light Waterfront".

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