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post Feb 3 2013, 04:50 PM, updated 10y ago

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Karex Bhd, the world's largest condom maker, is planning to offer 67.5 million shares, or 25% of its enlarged capital, in its initial public offering (IPO) in a bid to expand further.

In its draft prospectus, the company said the IPO would comprise the issuance of 40.5 million new shares and 27 million shares offered for sale by its existing shareholders. The investing public is entitled to a tranche of 13.5 million new shares, representing 5% of the company.

Although it did not reveal how much it plans to raise, it will allocate 54% of the proceeds for capital expenditure to expand its operational facilities, involving the construction of new buildings and the expansion of manufacturing facilities for its subsidiaries, Innolatex (Thailand) Ltd and Innolatex Sdn Bhd.

Five per cent has been earmarked for research and development to expand its product range, 32.7% for working capital and the balance for listing expenses.

RHB Investment Bank Bhd is the principal adviser for the IPO, while ZJ Advisory Sdn Bhd is the financial adviser.

For its financial year ended Dec 31, 2012, the company posted RM12.01mil in net profit on revenue of RM188.75mil. That compares with the 2011 net profit of RM6.98mil and revenue of RM181.75mil.

With an annual production capacity of about three billion pieces, its global market sales cover more than 110 countries.

“According to Infobusiness' independent market research report on the strategic and competitive analysis of the global condom industry, our leading position is further reflected by our export market share of 59.5% (export volume from Malaysia of approximately 6.5 million kg) amongst condom manufacturers in Malaysia for the year 2011,” it said.

Its products are sold via commercial, tender and original brand manufacturers (OBM) markets. In fiscal 2012, commercial, tender and OBM markets constituted approximately 56.9%, 39.3% and 3.8%, respectively, to the group's revenue.

The company believes that its prospects are favourable based on several factors such as growing demand and the non-existence of substitutes for its products.

“With the growing world population, the demand for condoms is expected to grow in tandem,” it said.

While it said there were several substitute products such as oral contraceptives and female condoms, condoms still remained a popular choice due to their economical and easy-to-use nature.

Initially known as Banrub, the company was founded by Goh Huang Chiat and his family when he decided to diversify into manufacturing of latex condoms.

Over the years it ventured into other businesses, including the manufacturing of sterile catheters, lubricating jelly and the setting up of a plant in Thailand.


Opening of application 11/10/2013
Closing of application 23/10/2013
Balloting of applications 25/10/2013
Allotment of IPO shares to successful applicants 04/11/2013
Tentative listing date 06/11/2013


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Durex not world's largest kah?
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Never heard of ghis brand
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post Feb 3 2013, 06:09 PM

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It is the largest in term of production but get beaten here by durex as the premium brand
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post Feb 4 2013, 02:08 AM

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I though Pleasure Latex is larger than Karex. Rupanya Karex is the big boss for dom2.

Karex is a sound company based in Pontian and if the valuation is reasonable, worthwhile to take a look. Not many Malaysian company can thrive in world marketplace. Latex products is one of the industry dominated by Malaysian company.

For Karex to grow, they should be more aggressive in acquisition since currently there are way too many condom player around.
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What are the threats to condom makers?
I know Catholic Church is against contraception, hence the use of condom, and pills for that matter. How about Islam hmm.gif
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QUOTE(river.sand @ Feb 4 2013, 08:32 AM)
What are the threats to condom makers?
I know Catholic Church is against contraception, hence the use of condom, and pills for that matter. How about Islam  hmm.gif
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i think its ok in Islam since ive never heard its haram to wear a condom or to buy condom or to sell it.

N when is the listing date again?

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The world had a higher weight for youth population, hence the market is there... As the new era youth is not like the old timers. Very da open..

So sex also very often practice freely..
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QUOTE(foofoosasa @ Feb 3 2013, 05:35 PM)
Never heard of ghis brand
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Seen any of these in the shop smile.gif
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Karex's Pontian factory produces 2 Billion condoms a year. Other factory in Klang and Hatyai produces another 1 Billion comdoms. It also produces condoms for top global brands. It also has its own house brand, Carex, which is sold in more than 30 countries.
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Maybe Durex buy from them..? And repackage it with a different marketing image.. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Feb 4 2013, 03:27 PM)
Maybe Durex buy from them..? And repackage it with a different marketing image.. biggrin.gif
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Maybe they do that. This company currently does some contract manufacturing for global condom brands.
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Durex produce in India...
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QUOTE(MatXSelamat @ Feb 4 2013, 04:39 PM)
Durex produce in India...
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price?
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QUOTE(chrisw @ Feb 4 2013, 05:13 PM)
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Feb 4 2013, 10:50 AM)
The world had a higher weight for youth population, hence the market is there... As the new era youth is not like the old timers. Very da open..

So sex also very often practice freely..
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Let's see the potential for condom industry...

China - aging population (result of one-child policy)
India - young population (big potential here rclxms.gif )
Japan - aging population, and Japanese couples seldom make love (despite the fame of Japanese AV)
Indonesia, Vietnam - young population
Philippines - recently legalize condom (one Filipina woman is reported to have given birth to 22 children sweat.gif )
Europe - aging population
USA - relatively young population among industrialized world
Africa - young population, but many are pious Christians who don't use condom (the results: high birth rates and high HIV infection rates)

So, the potential is huge?
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QUOTE(river.sand @ Feb 4 2013, 05:55 PM)
Let's see the potential for condom industry...

China - aging population (result of one-child policy)
India - young population (big potential here  rclxms.gif )
Japan - aging population, and Japanese couples seldom make love (despite the fame of Japanese AV)
Indonesia, Vietnam - young population
Philippines - recently legalize condom (one Filipina woman is reported to have given birth to 22 children  sweat.gif )
Europe - aging population
USA - relatively young population among industrialized world
Africa - young population, but many are pious Christians who don't use condom (the results: high birth rates and high HIV infection rates)

So, the potential is huge?
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don't forget our country Malaysia & also thailand(brows.gif). Vietnam also not forgetting brows.gif thumbup.gif
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Based on my crystal ball, price is MYR2.20
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QUOTE(river.sand @ Feb 4 2013, 05:55 PM)
Let's see the potential for condom industry...

China - aging population (result of one-child policy)
India - young population (big potential here  rclxms.gif )
Japan - aging population, and Japanese couples seldom make love (despite the fame of Japanese AV)
Indonesia, Vietnam - young population
Philippines - recently legalize condom (one Filipina woman is reported to have given birth to 22 children  sweat.gif )
Europe - aging population
USA - relatively young population among industrialized world
Africa - young population, but many are pious Christians who don't use condom (the results: high birth rates and high HIV infection rates)

So, the potential is huge?
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I am doing brief economy analysis for asian countries. Till now most of the countries have a young population.

Philippines and Vietnam - VERY young population and free sex is rampant. Government have to curb by promoting protected sex.

Btw, since its just randomise countries, why not we ask around our fellow forumers here. Who here practise safe sex?

As a start, I dont do sex. So none.
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QUOTE(GloryKnight @ Feb 4 2013, 10:30 PM)
I am doing brief economy analysis for asian countries. Till now most of the countries have a young population.

Philippines and Vietnam - VERY young population and free sex is rampant. Government have to curb by promoting protected sex.

Btw, since its just randomise countries, why not we ask around our fellow forumers here. Who here practise safe sex?

As a start, I dont do sex. So none.
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Syariah compliance??????
How to use condom?
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QUOTE(Manso55 @ Feb 5 2013, 11:11 PM)
Syariah compliance??????
How to use condom?
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hi manso, how to use condom...you go google. buy > open pouch > wear it > use it> throw it in the pouch or wrapped it with tissue and throw it in bin. done.
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when this ipo launch and listing date?
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QUOTE(GloryKnight @ Feb 6 2013, 09:50 AM)
hi manso, how to use condom...you go google. buy > open pouch > wear it > use it> throw it in the pouch or wrapped it with tissue and throw it in bin. done.
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Tq..A brief explanation........short n sharp!!!!
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Some news of Karex...

"Compared to a pint of beer, a box of 12 condoms gives you a more pleasurable time." That's the philosophy of Goh Miah Kiat, CEO of Karex Industries, which claims to be the world's biggest condom maker by volume, producing three billion annually, more than any other manufacturer.

The array of cheeky condoms on his desk—textured, flavoured, multi-coloured—would make most people blush. They come grape and strawberry flavoured, with pleasure-boosting textures, barber pole-like striping, Baggy sized and the opposite model, as well as missile-shaped...


http://www.dailychilli.com/news/20557-bigg...ntian-malaysia-

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The Packaging dont look appealing - it looks sorta out-dated or old-fashioned.
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http://investvine.com/worlds-largest-condom-maker-plans-ipo/

The company has factories in Pontian and Klang in Malaysia and in Hat Yai in Thailand. Its current market share is 15 per cent of the world’s condom market of 20 billion pieces a year. Its main competitors are UK-based Rekitt Benckiser with its Durex brand which produces condoms mainly in China, and US company Church & Dwight which sells condoms under the Trojan brand. All in all, there are currently 13 players in the global condom industry with other strong selling brands being Lifestyles, Beyond Seven, Trustex, Inspiral, Kimono, Pleasure Plus, Crown, Paradise, Okamoto, Ria and Impulse.

Karex is a contract manufacturer for some of the top global condom brands and sells its own house brand under the name of Carex.
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No wonder hard to find here...contract for others, i see...foreign fund might be interested...the buying will not be so soon...honestly speaking the business is evergreen even the packaging is not...constant demand all over the world if the marketing is right
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I think the demand won't be constant. It will be growing.
Won't be surprise children as young as 12,13,14 starts to use condom in the year of 2020.
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Apr 18 2013, 01:24 PM)
I think the demand won't be constant. It will be growing.
Won't be surprise children as young as 12,13,14 starts to use condom in the year of 2020.
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Apr 18 2013, 01:49 PM)
Bones,

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Hahaha... biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

Wad to do... All the movie ini macam
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Did not know malaysia got so many world producer factory/products.....especially rubber products.....

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QUOTE(cwhong @ Apr 19 2013, 02:14 PM)
Did not know malaysia got so many world producer factory/products.....especially rubber products.....
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Should know because Malaysia the world leader in rubber products mar.
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QUOTE(GloryKnight @ Apr 19 2013, 03:04 PM)
Should know because Malaysia the world leader in rubber products mar.
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Thailand is world number 1 in latex producer......
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QUOTE(cwhong @ Apr 19 2013, 04:24 PM)
Thailand is world number 1 in latex producer......
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Malaysia moves up the value chain - from latex producer to condom maker rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(cwhong @ Apr 19 2013, 04:24 PM)
Thailand is world number 1 in latex producer......
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U got investments in Thailand hmm.gif
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Apr 19 2013, 04:56 PM)
U got investments in Thailand hmm.gif
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See so sensitive....... Nolah just blow water only...... My turn kena audit........ hmm.gif
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Karex: Listing plan safe, set for H2

"We should be listed on Bursa Malaysia in the second half of this year," its executive director Goh Miah Kiat told Business Times in an interview.

Goh's reaffirmation of Karex's initial public offering (IPO) comes at a time when the Securities Commission (SC) is tightening the requirements for companies seeking to list on Bursa Malaysia.

Market talk is that listing plans by China-based companies and at least two mining-related special-purpose acquisition companies (SPACs), namely Australaysia Resources and Minerals Bhd and TerraGali Resources Bhd, are being scrutinised by the SC.

He said the IPO is going through the usual regulatory process and that nothing has been finalised yet.

Karex's draft prospectus was first put up on the SC website in February, much earlier that the prospectuses of Australaysia and TerraGali, which appeared in March.


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http://www.thestar.com.my/Business/Busines...es-in-2016.aspx

latest...net profit doubled from 2011...proceeds will be going for capex and r&d...shld be good long term...proposed listing on the 4Q13
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Must support dis IPO
Get redy $$$ now
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QUOTE(Manso55 @ Feb 5 2013, 11:11 PM)
Syariah compliance??????
How to use condom?
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U mean it's not halal to use condom ?

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QUOTE(GloryKnight @ Feb 4 2013, 10:30 PM)
I am doing brief economy analysis for asian countries. Till now most of the countries have a young population.

Philippines and Vietnam - VERY young population and free sex is rampant. Government have to curb by promoting protected sex.

Btw, since its just randomise countries, why not we ask around our fellow forumers here. Who here practise safe sex?

As a start, I dont do sex. So none.
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So U're single ? Lots of single lenglui in this forum.......so here's your chance.

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They earned RM12 mil PAT for FYE 2012
Wondering how much profit margin for each condom? icon_idea.gif
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Condom producer Karex Bhd to issue 40.5m new shares under IPO

Karex Bhd is issuing 40.5 million new shares and it also offering for sale 27 million existing shares under its listing exercise.

The company, which is seeking listing on the Main Market of Bursa Malaysia Securities Bhd, said on Friday the enlarged share capital upon listing would be 270.0 million shares.

Karex had on Friday signed an underwriting agreement with RHB Investment Bank Bhd where the latter is also the principal adviser and joint placement agent for the listing exercise.

Karex CEO Goh Miah Kiat signed the documents on behalf of Karex while RHB Investment Bank was represented by its managing director and CEO Mike Chan.

It has a total capacity to produce three billion pieces of condoms per year, making it the single largest condom manufacturer in the world.

It expects its prospectus to be launched in October and targets to be listed by November.

Goh said the listing would enable Karex to leverage on the growing opportunities of the global condom market.

He cited the growing demand driven mainly by the increasing global population which was projected to reach eight billion in 2025.

Karex was incorporated in 1988 in Johor, and it had a plant each in Pontian, Johor; Port Klang, Selangor; and Hat Yai, Thailand.
In addition to manufacturing condoms, the group also manufactures lubricating jelly and other medical devices which include catheters and probe covers.
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Wondering whether Karex need to meet MITI requirement?
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Any idea who own the company? and realted business

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QUOTE(ise @ Sep 30 2013, 04:19 PM)
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The company was founded by Goh Huang Chiat and his family
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Sep 30 2013, 04:50 PM)
The company was founded by Goh Huang Chiat and his family
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They owned how many %?
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Karex to launch IPO prospectus next month

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Condom cartons as substitute for cash dividend every quarterly? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 30 2013, 07:09 PM)
They owned how many %?
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Sep 30 2013, 09:15 PM)
Condom cartons as substitute for cash dividend every quarterly? laugh.gif
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Imagine they give Condoms as gift at the AGM brows.gif
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Sep 30 2013, 10:11 PM)
Imagine they give Condoms as gift at the AGM  brows.gif
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That's for sure.

Imagine dirty old man-looking unker shareholders taking it brows.gif
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Sep 30 2013, 10:25 PM)
That's for sure.

Imagine dirty old man-looking unker shareholders taking it brows.gif
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Sep 30 2013, 10:09 PM)
I don't know, but I assume they own majority
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Hold 35% post listing
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Sep 30 2013, 10:25 PM)
That's for sure.

Imagine dirty old man-looking unker shareholders taking it brows.gif
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Curiosity kills the cat ma...
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 30 2013, 10:40 PM)
Hold 35% post listing
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how you know? hmm.gif
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how you know?  hmm.gif
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Draft prospectus
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 30 2013, 10:45 PM)
Draft prospectus
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Another existing condom player oredi listed on Bursa
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 30 2013, 10:51 PM)
Another existing condom player oredi listed on Bursa
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who? Rubberex?

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Sep 30 2013, 10:52 PM)
who? Rubberex?

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Nope
Takaso Rubber Products S/B which is owned by Takaso 7071
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how many taiko/ taiche's hubbie uses condom here? Let alone using this particular brand? hmm.gif

I always see the Durex brand in phamarcies, 7-11 etc. Never see this brand.
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QUOTE(maldiniho @ Oct 1 2013, 05:16 PM)
how many taiko/ taiche's hubbie uses condom here? Let alone using this particular brand? hmm.gif

I always see the Durex brand in phamarcies, 7-11 etc. Never see this brand.
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Do you know Karex have some Contract Manufacturing for some of the top brand. Don't ask me which brand, because I don't know & the company also didn't disclose the information nod.gif
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QUOTE(maldiniho @ Oct 1 2013, 05:16 PM)
how many taiko/ taiche's hubbie uses condom here? Let alone using this particular brand? hmm.gif

I always see the Durex brand in phamarcies, 7-11 etc. Never see this brand.
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"normal" ppl use good brands like Durex

But call girls normaly carries ciplak brands

now, u tell, who uses more condoms whistling.gif
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Oct 1 2013, 05:29 PM)
"normal" ppl use good brands like Durex

But call girls normaly carries ciplak brands

now, u tell, who uses more condoms whistling.gif
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woo... you are right, far bigger market there than the normal couple/family segment. rclxms.gif
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woo... you are right,  far bigger market there than the normal couple/family segment.  rclxms.gif
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If call girls carry expensive Durex, their profit reduce yo tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Oct 1 2013, 05:45 PM)
Pandai pun brows.gif

If call girls carry expensive Durex, their profit reduce yo tongue.gif
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To me it's a BUY. But wonder when IPO will happen. Reasons:
http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/heal...ticle-1.1299207

1. "Industry estimates project a global condom market worth $6 billion in 2015, or some 27 billion condoms, compared to 20 billion in 2012." 35% growth in 3 years or 11+% per year. Quite good.

2. "Carex - the brand name of Karex condoms - holds about 15 percent of the global condom market, according to sector analysts. Other leading brands Durex, marketed by Britain's Reckitt Benckiser group, and Trojan, owned by the US firm Church & Dwight, make up roughly a combined 25 percent." Suppose Durex and Trojan are premium brand akin to Apple and Samsung, Carex will be like China brand phone, which means it has great potential to grow although with thinner margin. Still it's quite possible to get from 15% to 25% in a growing market as in point #1. It definitely help with its presence in Asia, where most the (population) growth will come from.

3. "About half of Karex's output goes to bulk purchases by governments or international agencies' safe-sex drives, mainly the UN Population Fund and the US Agency for International Development." This is the key driver. Population are growing, safe sex is always an expenses item for Health Ministry everywhere (and they won't give you Durex tongue.gif )

For other considerations (in response to some posts above)
1. Japanese are ageing and have little sex with spouse, but trust me, they still have sex, a lot (just not with their spouse, the more reason for safe sex biggrin.gif )
2. "The largely Catholic Philippines, for example, passed a law in January (2013) requiring government health centres to supply free condoms and birth control pills, and mandating sex education in schools." The world is changing, so is Catholic Church. It helps with the new Pope being quite open-minded (with his favorable view on gay and all).
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QUOTE(hiechelon @ Oct 5 2013, 01:29 AM)
To me it's a BUY. But wonder when IPO will happen. Reasons:
http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/heal...ticle-1.1299207

2. "Carex - the brand name of Karex condoms - holds about 15 percent of the global condom market, according to sector analysts. Other leading brands Durex, marketed by Britain's Reckitt Benckiser group, and Trojan, owned by the US firm Church & Dwight, make up roughly a combined 25 percent." Suppose Durex and Trojan are premium brand akin to Apple and Samsung, Carex will be like China brand phone, which means it has great potential to grow although with thinner margin. Still it's quite possible to get from 15% to 25% in a growing market as in point #1. It definitely help with its presence in Asia, where most the (population) growth will come from.
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Carex plus the other brands mentioned make up 40% of the market share. Where are the other 60% come from hmm.gif

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China's xiaojie is world famous brows.gif


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Today in The Star newspaper. KAREX IPO prospectus date 11 oct 2013:

Opening Application 10am 11 Oct 2013.
Closing Application 5pm 23 Oct 2013.

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how much per unit ?
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Total Retail - 20 250 000 unit.
For Public - 13 500 000 unit.
For Company - 6 750 000 unit.

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QUOTE(mrsmytb @ Oct 10 2013, 06:41 PM)
RM1.85 per unit.

Total Retail - 20 250 000 unit.
For Public - 13 500 000 unit.
For Company - 6 750 000 unit.
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Need to read Prospectus 1st
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Oh...Karex is also contract manufacturer for Durex brands (IIRC on The Star)
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KUALA LUMPUR: Rubber products manufacturer Karex Bhd plans to raise RM74.92mil from its issuance of 40.50 million new shares at RM1.85 a share under its listing exercise.

According to its abridged prospectus on Friday, it said the IPO would be 67.50 million shares comprising of the public issue of 40.50 million new shares and an offer for sale of 27 million existing shares.

Karex said the institutional offering of 47.25 million shares could comprise of 27 million offer shares and 20.25 million issue shares to institutional and selected investors in Malaysia, Singapore and Hong Kong.

The retail offering of 20.25 million shares would comprise of 13.50 million offer shares to the public and the remaining 6.75 million issue shares to eligible directors, employees and business associates.

Karex produces condoms, sterile catheters, latex probe covers, latex sleeves and rubber products.

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anyone have the prospectus? mind posting it>? thx.
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Details of IPO timeline

http://www.mih.com.my/index.php?page=ongoing
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Oct 11 2013, 10:32 AM)
if got the extract of their financials, md&a is even better tongue.gif
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QUOTE(tehoice @ Oct 11 2013, 10:34 AM)
if got the extract of their financials, md&a is even better  tongue.gif
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Until now, no news yet
Bursa very slow la

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This worth going for than Westports icon_idea.gif
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Condom also RM1.85 ? So expensive!
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http://www.bursamalaysia.com/market/listed...cements/1432281
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Oct 11 2013, 11:21 AM)
can do a summary? rclxms.gif
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A box of condom is a necessity. laugh.gif


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6th November listing

most listing proceeds goes to capex, some goes to debt rapayment and having R&D is a plus yet again...

Interesting facts that seem to be not related at all

a) the CEO is very young
b) one of the Independent director has a very good connection with Selangor Gov entities ie KDEB, KPSB, KHSB and the recent Taliworks saga
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QUOTE(tehoice @ Oct 11 2013, 11:36 AM)
can do a summary?  rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(kb2005 @ Oct 11 2013, 12:05 PM)
Condom also RM1.85 ? So expensive!
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Will try if have time
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Opening of application 11/10/2013
Closing of application 23/10/2013
Balloting of applications 25/10/2013
Allotment of IPO shares to successful applicants 04/11/2013
Tentative listing date 06/11/2013

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QUOTE(birdboy @ Oct 11 2013, 02:11 PM)
yea.. still thinking at the price of 0.5 0.8
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Me too. I thought shd be below RM1. Now 1.85 huh! Anyway, i think i will try some.
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Oct 11 2013, 10:49 AM)
This worth going for than Westports icon_idea.gif
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Why? You condom super user is it? hmm.gif
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i guess need to skip this domdom. reason over my budget price.
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QUOTE(gark @ Oct 11 2013, 03:14 PM)
Why? You condom super user is it?  hmm.gif
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I sudah 3 tahun takda chan-si pakai dom dom sad.gif

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I sudah 3 tahun takda chan-si pakai dom dom sad.gif
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I thought you always go pub 1....? whistling.gif
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Quick review got me some interesting information.


Public (non-bumi & others) - 6.75mil shares

PE is 16.81x - based on EPS 11c (FYE13)

No dividend policy

Got Senior Executive Director Position on BOD

World Largest Producer of Condom with 3bil pieces (2012) - Also produce for Durex, Trustex & One Brand

Got Pre-IPO exercise

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QUOTE(gark @ Oct 11 2013, 03:36 PM)
I thought you always go pub 1....?  whistling.gif
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Even pub girls also friendzone me sad.gif
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i guess need to skip this domdom. reason over my budget price.
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Have u read d prospectus?
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They have identified 7 risk in this industry
1 of them is 'There is a risk that there may be a cure or vaccine for HIV/AIDS'

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Oct 11 2013, 04:31 PM)
They have identified 7 risk in this industry
1 of them is 'There is a risk that there may be a cure or vaccine for HIV/AIDS'
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Good news for the people, Bad news for condom producers nod.gif
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Oct 11 2013, 03:29 PM)
I sudah 3 tahun takda chan-si pakai dom dom sad.gif
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wah... you have changed your profile picture. So macho tongue.gif
I thought last time you also didn't use dom dom with your ex?


QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Oct 11 2013, 04:31 PM)
They have identified 7 risk in this industry
1 of them is 'There is a risk that there may be a cure or vaccine for HIV/AIDS'
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What are the other risks?
Even if cure is found for AIDS, there are other STDs. And certainly we still need condom for contraception...

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I wonder this stock shariah compliant or not? If not then less support from national funds.. hmm.gif

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QUOTE(river.sand @ Oct 11 2013, 05:13 PM)
wah... you have changed your profile picture. So macho  tongue.gif
I thought last time you also didn't use dom dom with your ex?
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Sometimes if she wants "it" during fertile period...have to wear lor blush.gif

Oi, off-topic! laugh.gif
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QUOTE(gark @ Oct 11 2013, 05:17 PM)
I wonder this stock shariah compliant or not? If not then less support from national funds..  hmm.gif
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I don't think it's shariah compliant, didn't mention anything about it in the prospectus nod.gif
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QUOTE(gark @ Oct 11 2013, 05:17 PM)
I wonder this stock shariah compliant or not? If not then less support from national funds..  hmm.gif
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Dun think so as there is no allocation to MITI investors
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if <RM1 ok but this RM1.8 blink.gif
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They offer 2.5% each of share capital to public (bumi n non bumi) for subscription as compared to 1% each oni for Westports n UMWOG
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QUOTE(river.sand @ Oct 11 2013, 05:13 PM)

Even if cure is found for AIDS, there are other STDs. And certainly we still need condom for contraception...
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QUOTE(kangwoo @ Oct 11 2013, 11:39 PM)
if <RM1 ok but this RM1.8 blink.gif
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So your opinion? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Oct 12 2013, 10:53 AM)
They offer 2.5% each of share capital to public (bumi n non bumi) for subscription as compared to 1% each oni for Westports n UMWOG
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Yup, better on % but only 6.75mil each. Westport & UMW-OG even only 1%, it's 34.1mil & 24mil shares respectively nod.gif
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Oct 12 2013, 01:00 PM)
Yup, better on % but only 6.75mil each.  Westport & UMW-OG even only 1%, it's 34.1mil & 24mil shares respectively  nod.gif
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Well, u can't xpect better % n more shares concurrently
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Oct 12 2013, 04:41 PM)
Well, u can't xpect better % n more shares concurrently
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Oct 12 2013, 01:57 PM)
So your opinion?  hmm.gif
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so bro.. applying ? if umw failed den maybe will decide this..
u?

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Oct 11 2013, 05:31 PM)
They have identified 7 risk in this industry
1 of them is 'There is a risk that there may be a cure or vaccine for HIV/AIDS'
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You use condom more than one reason la not just for HIV prevention lol tongue.gif

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QUOTE(birdboy @ Oct 13 2013, 08:25 AM)
so bro.. applying ? if umw failed den maybe will decide this..
u?
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wait for UMW-OG, then only decide nod.gif
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QUOTE(escargo75 @ Oct 13 2013, 04:59 PM)
You use condom more than one reason la not just for HIV prevention lol  tongue.gif
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Seriously, even if cure for AIDS is found, who wants to go through the trauma? Not to mention the medical fee one has to fork out.
Cancer can now be treated if diagnosed at early stage. But do you think the patients enjoy chemotherapy?


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Im not a condom lover, if u know what im mean brows.gif
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You use condom more than one reason la not just for HIV prevention lol  tongue.gif
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Those who cannot control thier bladder and wet thier bed while sleeping can use condom instead of adult pampers - less bulky n cheaper too n also can re-use, agree ? I dunno as I don't wet the bed...but maybe those who did can give thier opinion on condom can use or not. If yes, then tell that to Karex and maybe they will give U a lifetime supply of condoms for thinking of a brand new useage of thier product - sales will increase 10% cos if this additional useage of condoms.

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QUOTE(topearn @ Oct 14 2013, 02:17 PM)
Those who cannot control thier bladder and wet thier bed while sleeping can use condom instead of adult pampers - less bulky n cheaper too n also can re-use, agree ? I dunno as I don't wet the bed...but maybe those who did can give thier opinion on condom can use or not. If yes, then tell that to Karex and maybe they will give U a lifetime supply of condoms for thinking of a brand new useage of thier product - sales will increase 10% cos if this additional useage of condoms.
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Im not a condom lover, if u know what im mean  brows.gif
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U R still a spring peri peri chicken ?

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No way, my monster load always spilled out, if you know what im mean  brows.gif
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No worries, get Karex to manufacture XXXXL size condoms.

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Did any IB give recommendation on dis IPO?
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Summary
IPO Offer Price: RM1.85
EPS: 11 sen
PE: 16.8

Listing Details
Purpose: To raise funds to build new plant
The use of funds allocated:
R & D - 5.3%
CAPEX - 55.7%
Operating costs - 18.3%
Repayment of bank loans - 13.3%
Listing fees - 7.4%

Future plans:
- To increase production
- Enable automated production systems
- Continuing to develop new products
- Continued expansion OBM (Original Brand Manufacturer) market

Risk factor:
Raw material prices (latex), currency exchange rate (USD), dependent on the major supplier, dependent on foreign labor, the lack of long-term contracts

Other important information:
- No dividend policy.
- The company has made ​​USD Hedged (not mistaken it was USD 18.9 million)
- The company's biggest supplier is Revertex (25.3%) and Getahindus (17.5%).
- 60.5% of the employees are foreign workers, mainly from Myammar, Nepal, Vietnam.
- The company's current production capacity is 2.42 billion, the current market demand is 24.5billion
- The company have 60.8% market share of total Condom exports
- 59.7% of the company revenue is derived from OEM. The company's OEM customers include Lifestyle brand, Durex brand, Trustex brands and One brand. Another 36.1% of revenue comes from NGO's and government agencies. Only 4.2% from its own brand.
- Total Condom Export to Asia (36.8%), followed by Africa (30.8%), the America (18.2%) and Europe (14.2%).

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Did any IB give recommendation on dis IPO?
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Those who cannot control thier bladder and wet thier bed while sleeping can use condom instead of adult pampers - less bulky n cheaper too n also can re-use, agree ? I dunno as I don't wet the bed...but maybe those who did can give thier opinion on condom can use or not. If yes, then tell that to Karex and maybe they will give U a lifetime supply of condoms for thinking of a brand new useage of thier product - sales will increase 10% cos if this additional useage of condoms.
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ur lil bro suffocate to death doh.gif
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any one know how they the derive "the current market demand is 24.5billion"
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[change rate (USD), dependent on the major supplier, dependent on foreign labor, the lack of long-term contracts

Other important information:
- No dividend policy
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If i kena tis ipo n make good profit during first day opening, i wil wear karex brand even when i masturbate!!! Ha ha ha... To fully suport karex
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If i kena tis ipo n make good profit during first day opening, i wil wear karex brand even when i masturbate!!! Ha ha ha... To fully suport karex
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Den u can write opinion here whether safe or not brows.gif
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If i kena tis ipo n make good profit during first day opening, i wil wear karex brand even when i masturbate!!! Ha ha ha... To fully suport karex
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Sure or not?
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any one know how they the derive  "the current market demand is 24.5billion"
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Should b via IMR
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when do we will know whether the ipo v apply kena o not? anyone can share more info about this counter?
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If i kena tis ipo n make good profit during first day opening, i wil wear karex brand even when i masturbate!!! Ha ha ha... To fully suport karex
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what a good idea lol !
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Nvermind..got it already. Forgot can get from Bursa website lol
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Sure la... More hygience ma... No more pancut here n there
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Sure la... More hygience ma... No more pancut here n there
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Goh Miah Kiat - CEO of Karex is now on BFM89.9 to talk about the company and the IPO. If you miss this interview, podcast available at www.bfm.my
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this one not for me... non-shariah.

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A good stock to own, world's largest and with the trends of condom being mooted as a safe-sex initiative, why not.
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A good stock to own, world's largest and with the trends of condom being mooted as a safe-sex initiative, why not.
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Is the price too expensive? What is the PE TTM?
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i seldom heard the brand of karex. I thought Durex is world renown and biggest? Anyone use karex brand before? whats ur rating? this will affect the ipo analysis.
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i seldom heard the brand of karex. I thought Durex is world renown and biggest? Anyone use karex brand before? whats ur rating? this will affect the ipo analysis.
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They supply to Durex too.

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http://research.maybank-ib.com/download.php?did=5206&mid=
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Ok, not a yield play, 2% DY at best doh.gif
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Ok, not a yield play, 2% DY at best doh.gif
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you apply karex IPO???
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Seeing the Maybank report...this will be a zero divvy stock for 1-2 years, later on 1-2% at best. Not my cuppa
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Nah, I never apply IPO geh

Seeing the Maybank report...this will be a zero divvy stock for 1-2 years, later on 1-2% at best. Not my cuppa
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but you are dom dom user.... i buy this dom dom IPO.
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but you are dom dom user.... i buy this dom dom IPO.
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But it's a purely growth stock, not my cuppa

Ppl call me "Mr Carlsberg" also lor, but I've dumped my CARLSBG tongue.gif
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But it's a purely growth stock, not my cuppa

Ppl call me "Mr Carlsberg" also lor, but I've dumped my CARLSBG tongue.gif
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doh.gif You selling IN LOSS..i remember you bought arnd rm14.xx...need patient..


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doh.gif You selling IN LOSS..i remember you bought arnd rm14.xx...need patient..
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Moved the money to Tiger Bank, immediately made paper profit, better dividend yield some more
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Moved the money to Tiger Bank, immediately made paper profit, better dividend yield some more
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Want to draw triangle graph when i free time at home.
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can share what the cost your carlsberg buying and selling and buying date and selling date.

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i seldom heard the brand of karex. I thought Durex is world renown and biggest? Anyone use karex brand before? whats ur rating? this will affect the ipo analysis.
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Bro, r u a regular user?
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Bro, r u a regular user?
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recently no due to Plan "B"
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Bro, unable to save the pdf into the computer

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Maybank IB report for those cannot view the previous posting pdf file smile.gif


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Maybank IB report for those cannot view the previous posting pdf file  smile.gif
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IPO: JF Apex has FV of RM2.07 for Karex

JF Apex Securities Bhd has a fair value (FV) of RM2.07 for condom manufacturer Karex Bhd shares. This compares to Karex's indicative initial public offering's (IPO) share price of RM1.85 in light of its upcoming listing on Bursa Malaysia.&nbsp;

In a note today, JF Apex analyst Soong Wei Siang said the FV for Karex is derived by pegging a 15-time price-earnings ratio to the manufacturer's FY14F earnings per share of 13.8 sen. Soong said the valuation is a 10% discount to Top Glove Corp Bhd's 16.5 times.

"In our view, Karex shares similarity with Top Glove as both are the largest players in the rubber-related healthcare products in Malaysia by having the class-leading production capacity.

"However, we reckon that the lower valuation is justified in view of the relatively lower market capitalisation of Karex, and the Group has not fixed any dividend policy to reward its shareholders as compared to the 50% dividend payout ratio Top Glove is currently implementing," Soong said.

Karex has an annual production capacity of three billion pieces of condoms from its four plants in Malaysia and Thailand. This makes Karex the largest condom manufacturer in the world.

Karex's IPO involves the sale of 67.5 million shares in the firm. The exercise comprises a public issue of 40.5 million new shares, and an offer for sale of 27 million existing units.

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Now v have 2 TP:
Maybank - 2.16
JF Apex - 2.07
Average - 2.11
Upside - 0.26 or 14%
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Now v have 2 TP:
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Upside - 0.26 or 14%
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got IB research paper can share at here.
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got IB research paper can share at here.
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i see/have MAYBANK from earlier post..but didnt found other.

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Now v have 2 TP:
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JF Apex - 2.07
Average - 2.11
Upside - 0.26 or 14%
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WAh ! Not bad ! 2 more days to go B4 deadline.

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only got news report from the edge. Actual report I can't find it  nod.gif
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oic..i thought IB got research paper rclxub.gif ..

can you share the link the edge

i didnt spot.miss..it..
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http://www.theedgemalaysia.com/business-ne...for-karex-.html
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Still thinking whether to apply Caring or Karex or split the fund for both.. rclxub.gif


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Still thinking whether to apply Caring or Karex or split the fund for both..  rclxub.gif
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Use a coin to decide
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Still thinking whether to apply Caring or Karex or split the fund for both..  rclxub.gif
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Go apply Karex as Caring is 1 week later and maybe if unsuccessful, the funds can come back in time to apply Caring.

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Go apply Karex as Caring is 1 week later and maybe if unsuccessful, the funds can come back in time to apply Caring.
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Go apply Karex as Caring is 1 week later and maybe if unsuccessful, the funds can come back in time to apply Caring.
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If Karex successful, can't apply Caring wo
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JF Apex's FV is based on 15x PE FY14F, and the analyst compares Karex to Top Glove.
Is he comparing apple to orange rclxub.gif
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U will use entire proceeds from UMW (50k shares x 2.80) to apply Karex?
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JF Apex's FV is based on 15x PE FY14F, and the analyst compares Karex to Top Glove.
Is he comparing apple to orange  rclxub.gif
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Both use rubber latex to produce final products
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U will use entire proceeds from UMW (50k shares x 2.80) to apply Karex?
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Probably not
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If Karex successful, can't apply Caring wo
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Agree. And I did say if Karex unsuccessful, then maybe the unsuccessful funds can come back to apply Caring.

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woah have to apply this

if economic downtown, ppl will wear this

if good economy, more ppl got mood to sexing
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sexing or not - ppl will still sexing and since ppl are getting better educated - of cos buy n wear?? no?

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Why so many new category IPO this few weeks,
Westports for ports.
Caring for pharmacy
and this for condom maker?
This looks interesting.
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Why so many new category IPO this few weeks,
Westports for ports.
Caring for pharmacy
and this for condom maker?
This looks interesting.
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Condoms are always interesting my friend. Always. And I believe stock players - guys mainly will buy.
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QUOTE(river.sand @ Oct 21 2013, 09:17 PM)
JF Apex's FV is based on 15x PE FY14F, and the analyst compares Karex to Top Glove.
Is he comparing apple to orange  rclxub.gif
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It's the best he could do as both r manufacturing latex-based products. I think we do not have another condom-maker in Bursa.

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QUOTE(river.sand @ Oct 21 2013, 09:17 PM)
JF Apex's FV is based on 15x PE FY14F, and the analyst compares Karex to Top Glove.
Is he comparing apple to orange  rclxub.gif
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maybe both are using rubber as material and both are biggest in the world rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(kailc @ Oct 22 2013, 09:11 AM)
Applied 20,000 units
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maybe both are using rubber as material and both are biggest in the world  rclxms.gif
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If u run outa condoms, just take a glove as substitute tongue.gif
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Imagine on IPO day, headline reads.
"Cure for HIV/AIDS found".
That would be funny rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(Mr Kong @ Oct 22 2013, 09:35 AM)
Imagine on IPO day, headline reads.
"Cure for HIV/AIDS found".
That would be funny  rclxms.gif
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Worldwide rape would occur and even so, one still needs to practise safe sex and to avoid pregnancy risks.
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Worldwide rape would occur and even so, one still needs to practise safe sex and to avoid pregnancy risks.
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But condom sales would drop significantly.
One of the main reasons people buy condom is to avoid getting HIV/AIDS.
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TA Securities give TP2.40 wo... Anyone has d report?
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QUOTE(Mr Kong @ Oct 22 2013, 09:58 AM)
But condom sales would drop significantly.
One of the main reasons people buy condom is to avoid getting HIV/AIDS.
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Not necessary.
Today cancer can be cured if diagnosed at early stage. But who wants to undergo chemotherapy?



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just wanna share HwangDBS initiating coverage report on Karex
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QUOTE(yunbo @ Oct 22 2013, 10:37 AM)
just wanna share HwangDBS initiating coverage report on Karex
FV: RM2.35
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good good....

ta 2.40
hwang 2.35

Better upside potential than westport n umwog!!!
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post Oct 22 2013, 11:05 AM

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wa... all researcher give so good expectation...

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condom maker.. sure buy la... unless u dun like condom, u better hold your gun properly
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Not necessary.
Today cancer can be cured if diagnosed at early stage. But who wants to undergo chemotherapy?
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HIV and cancer are two different thing, can't relate it to chemotherapy. So.. YES, condom is still the main to prevent HIV.
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Attaching Alliance research paper.

TP 2.23, forward PE 16x based on average valuation of Glove sector.

Try some luck today tongue.gif


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wa... all researcher give so good expectation...
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post Oct 22 2013, 11:53 AM

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QUOTE(river.sand @ Oct 22 2013, 10:19 AM)
Not necessary.
Today cancer can be cured if diagnosed at early stage. But who wants to undergo chemotherapy?
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No la, cancer after 5 years no relapse only considered cured
But what i meant was that AIDS/HIV could be cured by just taking a jab or some medication.

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post Oct 22 2013, 12:55 PM

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non syariah, so non bumi got more chances?

from alliance report.
We like Karex on 3 investment angles, i.e. (1) aggressive capacity expansion strategy which will lead to industry consolidation, (2) favourable outlook on latex price and exchange rate, and (3) the long-term beneficiary to rising global trend of improved family planning.

Global condom consumption growth is expected to remain resilient at 7.5% p.a.

Karex as the world largest condom manufacturer is in the prime position to gain from the growth

Karex’s capacity would be increased by 1 bn pieces p.a., translating to a 3-year capacity CAGR of 26%

Competitors are not adding capacity aggressively

Brand owners are expected to outsource the manufacturing operation and focus on marketing and distribution

Reckitt Benckiser started its OEM-relationship with Karex since 2011

Tender market revenue is expected to grow stronger, once its new capacity kicks in

Increasing economies of scale is a clear competitive edge in the fragmented condom industry

We anticipate latex price to remain stable in 2014, thanks to widening supply surplus in the global rubber market

Higher average USD against Ringgit in FY14 is expected

Best proxy to the rising global trend of improved family planning

Greater economies of scale and continuous investment on R&D will ensure Karex to stay ahead

Historical 3-year revenue and earnings CAGR was strong at 13.7% and 20.6% respectively

On the flip side, FY12 output contracted by 18.8% y-o-y due to numerous factors

Going forward, Karex’s core earnings expected to grow by a 3- year CAGR of 20%
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post Oct 22 2013, 01:17 PM

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Just apply this IPO
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Just apply this IPO
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But no cornerstone investor?
I don't hear EPF or any any large institutional investor one. unsure.gif
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QUOTE(Mr Kong @ Oct 22 2013, 01:19 PM)
But no cornerstone investor?
I don't hear EPF or any any large institutional investor one. unsure.gif
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Cornerstone investor for peace of mind oni
Performance is d key driver moving forward


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QUOTE(Mr Kong @ Oct 22 2013, 01:19 PM)
But no cornerstone investor?
I don't hear EPF or any any large institutional investor one. unsure.gif
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most government funds can't invest.
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post Oct 22 2013, 01:54 PM

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tak kena westports and UMW, better give me karex hor!!

Condom ftw! Guy's Best Friend - Consumer Product - High Chance of Upside.
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QUOTE(GloryKnight @ Oct 22 2013, 01:54 PM)
tak kena westports and UMW, better give me karex hor!!

Condom ftw! Guy's Best Friend - Consumer Product - High Chance of Upside.
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i miss out UMW too.. without the bumi/nonbumi disadvantage, better give me karex too!!
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No, u need to use Karex before the balloting day to have lucky chances of striking brows.gif
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QUOTE(GloryKnight @ Oct 22 2013, 02:18 PM)
No, u need to use Karex before the balloting day to have lucky chances of striking brows.gif
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when IPO briefying, they door gift is whistling.gif wub.gif
my friend said de, some more big quantity given shocking.gif
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QUOTE(Alan366 @ Oct 22 2013, 02:22 PM)
when IPO briefying, they door gift is  whistling.gif  wub.gif
my friend said de, some more big quantity given  shocking.gif
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Goodie pack?
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QUOTE(Alan366 @ Oct 22 2013, 02:22 PM)
when IPO briefying, they door gift is  whistling.gif  wub.gif
my friend said de, some more big quantity given  shocking.gif
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But the location of the briefing is so far. This stock has the best chat albeit some are dirty.
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when IPO briefying, they door gift is  whistling.gif  wub.gif
my friend said de, some more big quantity given  shocking.gif
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what does that suppose to mean?
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B = Baby ? How many babies U n wife planning to get ?
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ok guys lets get serious... this is business... condom making is damn good business...
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QUOTE(wilson1234 @ Oct 22 2013, 02:38 PM)
ok guys lets get serious... this is business... condom making is damn good business...
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but some malaysians very skeptical when comes to rubber utilization. Thats why they are so easily populated. education failed or marketing failed? U sounds like a sifu, maybe u could answer
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karex ipo really dun hv bumi n non bumi category ka? Like igbreit? YaHOOO
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bullish about this world largest condom maker
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QUOTE(ckinsg @ Oct 22 2013, 03:07 PM)
karex ipo really dun hv bumi n non bumi category ka? Like igbreit? YaHOOO
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It is stated in Prospectus, 50:50...
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QUOTE(akelvin @ Oct 22 2013, 03:15 PM)
It is stated in Prospectus, 50:50...
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Yahoooo....at least we hv something fair again...
Like igbreit no non bumi n bumi n i kena!!!! rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(ckinsg @ Oct 22 2013, 03:18 PM)
Yahoooo....at least we hv something fair again...
Like igbreit no non bumi n bumi n i kena!!!!  rclxms.gif
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Not sure the bumi allocation will be fully subscribed or not since it is non-syariaah. If got left-over maybe give it to non-bumi? Yea, 50:50 is fairer anyway.
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how much can expect on 1st day? these TP price don't really work..
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how much can expect on 1st day? these TP price don't really work..
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you mean it can go even higher? brows.gif
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how much can expect on 1st day? these TP price don't really work..
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opn 1.95 highest 2.00 ok
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you mean it can go even higher?  brows.gif
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OR IT CAN GO LOWER... work both ways.
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QUOTE(akelvin @ Oct 22 2013, 03:21 PM)
Not sure the bumi allocation will be fully subscribed or not since it is non-syariaah. If got left-over maybe give it to non-bumi? Yea, 50:50 is fairer anyway.
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It's depend individual preference, some will still apply it even it's non-shariah nod.gif Just look at Genting Bhd brows.gif
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OR IT CAN GO LOWER... work both ways.
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or it doesnt go any-way... stay still... work 3-ways.
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QUOTE(DR5 @ Oct 22 2013, 03:38 PM)
or it doesnt go any-way... stay still... work 3-ways.
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It maybe withdraw before listing, macam RUN HILL... work 4-ways
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seems not many ppls like condom ipo, not many discuss about this even on last 2/7...
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ok i applied 100,000 unit = RM185000
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ok i applied 100,000 unit = RM185000
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It maybe withdraw before listing, macam RUN HILL... work 4-ways
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that was nice 1! rclxms.gif

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non Syariah-compliant.
most government funds can't invest.
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Private fund will collect lol
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QUOTE(wilson1234 @ Oct 22 2013, 02:16 PM)
i miss out UMW too.. without the bumi/nonbumi disadvantage, better give me karex too!!
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They allocated 50% to Bumi investors
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karex ipo really dun hv bumi n non bumi category ka? Like igbreit? YaHOOO
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Have
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bullish about this world largest condom maker
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hope bumi shares under subscribe,
so, can allocate to public.

like SOLID, bumi under subscribed then re-allocated to public, i kena $8,000 smile.gif (but apply > 200,000 shares)
due to public shareholding spread, they need more number of shareholders, the successful rate about 70% with limited share allocated.

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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Oct 22 2013, 03:38 PM)
It's depend individual preference, some will still apply it even it's non-shariah nod.gif  Just look at Genting Bhd brows.gif
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U r rite
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QUOTE(Alan366 @ Oct 22 2013, 04:45 PM)
hope bumi shares under subscribe,
so, can allocate to public.

like SOLID, bumi under subscribed then re-allocated to public, i kena $8,000 smile.gif (but apply > 200,000 shares)
due to public shareholding spread, they need more number of shareholders, the successful rate about 70% with limited share allocated.
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look back at the allocation table on the link given below

https://www.equiniti.com.my/content/press_r...isAllotment.pdf


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QUOTE(Alan366 @ Oct 22 2013, 04:45 PM)
hope bumi shares under subscribe,
so, can allocate to public.

like SOLID, bumi under subscribed then re-allocated to public, i kena $8,000 smile.gif (but apply > 200,000 shares)
due to public shareholding spread, they need more number of shareholders, the successful rate about 70% with limited share allocated.
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Solid is different
Its MITI allocation for Bumi was under subscribed
Re-allocate to public under Bumi oni
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SOLID now is very solid
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SOLID now is very solid
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Still holding since IPO?
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<24hrs for Karex application
any idea for the basis of allotment?
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Didn't realize MBB didn't charge for e-share application. Thought it was RM1 previously.


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QUOTE(1282009 @ Oct 22 2013, 07:09 PM)
Applied smile.gif
Didn't realize MBB didn't charge for e-share application. Thought it was RM1 previously.
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Huh ? Sure or not ? Then ATM apply also free then - I'll apply tomorrow morning.

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ok, it seems the TP is quite good, so i try try 50 lots.

Hopefully with my luck from UMW Oil, i am going to strike this again.
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ok, it seems the TP is quite good, so i try try 50 lots.

Hopefully with my luck from UMW Oil, i am going to strike this again.
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Share me a bit luck...
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greetings sifus here... will it b worth to trty my luck for Krex? the prospects looks very good but im abit hesitant... seems this condom making stock very undervalued leh... just like Hovid...was hestating then suddenly yesterday news come stock went up 2-3 cents.
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QUOTE(1282009 @ Oct 22 2013, 07:09 PM)
Applied smile.gif
Didn't realize MBB didn't charge for e-share application. Thought it was RM1 previously.
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R u sure?
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greetings sifus here... will it b worth to trty my luck for Krex? the prospects looks very good but im abit hesitant... seems this condom making stock very undervalued leh... just like Hovid...was hestating then suddenly yesterday news come stock went up 2-3 cents.
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Go for it
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Go for it
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u seems so confident with this condom maker.
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What is par value?
A better explanation?
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u seems so confident with this condom maker.
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Of coz
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What is par value?
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Of coz
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r u 1 of the director? hmm.gif any kang tao?
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Final Reminder

Opening of application 11/10/2013
Closing of application 23/10/2013
Balloting of applications 25/10/2013
Allotment of IPO shares to successful applicants 04/11/2013
Tentative listing date 06/11/2013

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Oct 23 2013, 08:05 AM)
Final Reminder

Opening of application 11/10/2013
Closing of application 23/10/2013
Balloting of applications 25/10/2013
Allotment of IPO shares to successful applicants  04/11/2013
Tentative listing date 06/11/2013
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I applied 100 lots.

disappointed didn't get the UMW


If I fill in 'others' for race, can stand better chance of getting it ?
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QUOTE(okr2013 @ Oct 23 2013, 09:08 AM)
I applied 100 lots.

disappointed didn't get the UMW
If I fill in 'others' for race, can stand better chance of getting it ?
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NO....you still under Non - BUMI category.
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1.00
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Market cap at IPO price (RM m) 499.5
Share capital (m) 67.5
Estimated free float (%) 25.0
Par value (RM) 0.10
NTA per share (post IPO) 0.65
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So today is last day? Need to think about this. Never buy condom share before. sweat.gif
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So today is last day? Need to think about this. Never buy condom share before.  sweat.gif
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YES.
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Last day to apply. Still waiting for my refund from UMW O&G. Else will proceed with very little quantity.
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QUOTE(okr2013 @ Oct 23 2013, 09:08 AM)
I applied 100 lots.

disappointed didn't get the UMW
If I fill in 'others' for race, can stand better chance of getting it ?
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Tried for 10 lots. Let's see.
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post Oct 23 2013, 11:28 AM

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Market cap at IPO price (RM m) 499.5
Share capital (m) 67.5
Estimated free float (%) 25.0
Par value (RM) 0.10
NTA per share (post IPO) 0.65
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QUOTE(rukawa @ Oct 23 2013, 10:16 AM)
Tried for 10 lots. Let's see.
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I am in also, world biggest condom
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post Oct 23 2013, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE(kb2005 @ Oct 23 2013, 10:27 AM)
Last day to apply. Still waiting for my refund from UMW O&G. Else will proceed with very little quantity.
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post Oct 23 2013, 12:12 PM

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QUOTE(rukawa @ Oct 23 2013, 11:16 AM)
Tried for 10 lots. Let's see.
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10 lots cukup cover the commissions, fee and stamp duty if you want sell all in 1st day?
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QUOTE(peri peri @ Oct 23 2013, 01:12 PM)
10 lots cukup cover the commissions, fee and stamp duty if you want sell all in 1st day?
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can have fast selling one meh? i tot prohibited?
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QUOTE(liam_emmet @ Oct 23 2013, 12:20 PM)
can have fast selling one meh? i tot prohibited?
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QUOTE(peri peri @ Oct 23 2013, 01:29 PM)
How come cannot?  hmm.gif
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duno..saw in osk188 says so..strightly prohibited somemore...
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duno..saw in osk188 says so..strightly prohibited somemore...
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can sell la
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duno..saw in osk188 says so..strightly prohibited somemore...
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can sell la
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QUOTE(Alan366 @ Oct 23 2013, 01:50 PM)
hmm.gif  hmm.gif  hmm.gif

can sell la
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post Oct 23 2013, 02:09 PM

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Already applied. Small quantity. biggrin.gif
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enter ....not enter.....enter....not enter ..... cant decide properly la ....only 2 hrs 45 min. left ..... help!! ....
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using RHB & M2U to apply these 2 EIPOs.
try my luck again, failed for the last 2 ipo hmm.gif hmm.gif
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QUOTE(liam_emmet @ Oct 23 2013, 12:34 PM)
duno..saw in osk188 says so..strightly prohibited somemore...
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Short selling is prohibited not fast selling
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using RHB & M2U to apply these 2 EIPOs.
  try my luck again, failed for the last 2 ipo hmm.gif  hmm.gif
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Using different names I assume?
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Ironically, a few weeks ago I was stuck in Federal Highway on a Friday evening super jam. In my frustration I Facebook update 'How to solve traffic jams? ....birth control'. Guess I'll do just that, sign me up for this IPO!
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try? no try? try? no try?

still havent make up my mind coz price quite high.

Last time RUN HILL starting this range also got people says too high.

High? no high?
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post Oct 23 2013, 03:08 PM

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apply or not apply? I can't seem to make my mind up rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(peri peri @ Oct 23 2013, 03:56 PM)
try? no try? try? no try?

still havent make up my mind coz price quite high.

Last time RUN HILL starting this range also got people says too high.

High? no high?
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masuk saje la peri bro... tak pasti kena pun... try luck la
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Using different names I assume?
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anybody any idea what range (no of units) higher chance?
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QUOTE(DR5 @ Oct 23 2013, 03:29 PM)
anybody any idea what range (no of units) higher chance?
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1mil & above shares sweat.gif highest chance biggrin.gif
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if all goes well according to predicted, this stock can bcome golden. condom maker for Ansell and benckiser... looks good. smile.gif i think condom manufacturing SHOULD be recession proof right haha
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decided already: apply and hope i didnt get ..... finished.
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QUOTE(kamrulbj6107 @ Oct 23 2013, 03:52 PM)
decided already:  apply and hope i didnt get ..... finished.
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u apply & harap tak dapat? rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(kamrulbj6107 @ Oct 23 2013, 02:52 PM)
decided already:  apply and hope i didnt get ..... finished.
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Apa ini, then keep in FD, got interest.
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Oct 23 2013, 03:55 PM)
u apply & harap tak dapat?  rclxub.gif
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Yes.... so that if harga tinggi on listing day, i can say to myself "not my mistake.... i apply already".
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Already decided, Apply small amount only blush.gif
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QUOTE(kamrulbj6107 @ Oct 23 2013, 04:08 PM)
Yes.... so that if harga tinggi on listing day, i can say to myself "not my mistake.... i apply already".
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very interesting indeed, unique answer smile.gif
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post Oct 23 2013, 04:17 PM

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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Oct 23 2013, 03:32 PM)
1mil & above shares sweat.gif  highest chance  biggrin.gif
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That will be 50% chance if i am not mistaken. If Bumi category, should be 100%. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Oct 23 2013, 04:08 PM)
Already decided, Apply small amount only blush.gif
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I also small amount as i have yet to get the balance refund from UMW O&G. CIMB contacted me and told me my account number was wrong! I don't believe them of course as i have been using same account all the time without problem.
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Left 40mins. biggrin.gif


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Highlights from Public Investment Bank on Karex for your information.

Karex: Growing Prospects (KAREX MK, Fair Value: RM2.16)

Karex is the world’s largest condom manufacturer with an estimated 10% global market share for condoms, with 3bn condom
pcs/yr capacity. Expected to grow at c.19% 4-yr net profit CAGR, our fair value of RM2.16 is justified premised on CY14F 15x
P/E. Karex’s business will be buoyed by i.) expansion plans to double its capacity from 3bn to 6bn condom pcs/yr by 2015,
ii.) product innovation to variants for wider target consumers, iii.) rising awareness and acceptance of condom as a natural and
cheap contraceptive use translating to increase in demand, and iv.) growth in institutional buyers to curb the spread of sexually
transmitted diseases (STIs).


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QUOTE(kamrulbj6107 @ Oct 23 2013, 02:12 PM)
enter ....not enter.....enter....not enter ..... cant decide properly la ....only 2 hrs 45 min.  left ..... help!! ....
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Just go for it
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QUOTE(kb2005 @ Oct 23 2013, 04:17 PM)
That will be 50% chance if i am not mistaken. If Bumi category, should be 100%. biggrin.gif
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wah, apply 1mil shares also just 50% chance shakehead.gif doh.gif I tot around 70%-80% one

QUOTE(kb2005 @ Oct 23 2013, 04:19 PM)
I also small amount as i have yet to get the balance refund from UMW O&G. CIMB contacted me and told me my account number was wrong! I don't believe them of course as i have been using same account all the time without problem.
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They giving some crap excuse. Maybe using it to get some interest somewhere else nod.gif
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QUOTE(jaychow @ Oct 23 2013, 02:18 PM)
Ironically, a few weeks ago I was stuck in Federal Highway on a Friday evening super jam. In my frustration I Facebook update 'How to solve traffic jams? ....birth control'. Guess I'll do just that, sign me up for this IPO!
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Press apply button
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post Oct 23 2013, 04:28 PM

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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Oct 23 2013, 03:32 PM)
1mil & above shares sweat.gif  highest chance  biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Oct 23 2013, 04:28 PM)
I support u
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too bad I don't have that much bullets cry.gif
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QUOTE(acgerlok7 @ Oct 23 2013, 03:49 PM)
if all goes well according to predicted, this stock can bcome golden. condom maker for Ansell and benckiser... looks good. smile.gif i think condom manufacturing  SHOULD be recession proof right haha
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Gud analysis
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post Oct 23 2013, 04:34 PM

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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Oct 23 2013, 04:08 PM)
Already decided, Apply small amount only blush.gif
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Welcome to world of condom
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QUOTE(kb2005 @ Oct 23 2013, 04:21 PM)
Highlights from Public Investment Bank on Karex for your information.

Karex:  Growing Prospects (KAREX MK, Fair Value: RM2.16)

Karex is the world’s largest condom manufacturer with an estimated 10% global market share for condoms, with 3bn condom
pcs/yr capacity. Expected to grow at c.19% 4-yr net profit CAGR, our fair value of RM2.16 is justified premised on CY14F 15x
P/E. Karex’s business will be buoyed by i.) expansion plans to double its capacity from 3bn to 6bn condom pcs/yr by 2015,
ii.) product innovation to variants for wider target consumers, iii.) rising awareness and acceptance of condom as a natural and
cheap contraceptive use translating to increase in demand, and iv.) growth in institutional buyers to curb the spread of sexually
transmitted diseases (STIs).
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Thanks for d info
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Oct 23 2013, 04:30 PM)
too bad I don't have that much bullets  cry.gif
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Never mind
Small bullet oso can enjoy upside
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Another 19 min to go b4 closing
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Oct 23 2013, 03:08 PM)
apply or not apply? I can't seem to make my mind up  rclxub.gif
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just apply la... sell on opening day.. even premium 10 sen it is still money...

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QUOTE(acgerlok7 @ Oct 23 2013, 03:49 PM)
if all goes well according to predicted, this stock can bcome golden. condom maker for Ansell and benckiser... looks good. smile.gif i think condom manufacturing  SHOULD be recession proof right haha
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Yeap, when market crashed everyone is f**cked so the protection comes in handy whistling.gif
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just applied.
hope for the best!
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QUOTE(kamrulbj6107 @ Oct 23 2013, 03:52 PM)
decided already:  apply and hope i didnt get ..... finished.
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u are muslim rite, u should know ur place..

dont get offended by my advice..
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post Oct 23 2013, 05:22 PM

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Balloting of applications 25/10/2013

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Oct 23 2013, 05:22 PM)
Balloting of applications 25/10/2013
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is the same day with 2014 Budget.
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Oct 23 2013, 04:24 PM)
wah, apply 1mil shares also just 50% chance  shakehead.gif  doh.gif  I tot around 70%-80% one
They giving some crap excuse.  Maybe using it to get some interest somewhere else  nod.gif
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Just received the balance 4:23pm but too late, i already applied. Nvm, lets see how condom perform. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(kb2005 @ Oct 23 2013, 05:31 PM)
Just received the balance 4:23pm but too late, i already applied. Nvm, lets see how condom perform. biggrin.gif
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aiya, should have waited till the last 10min nod.gif

nvm, not your luck to apply more
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QUOTE(DR5 @ Oct 23 2013, 05:27 PM)
is the same day with 2014 Budget.
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Yup
Hope double gud news
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Oct 23 2013, 05:22 PM)
Balloting of applications 25/10/2013
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Monday nite or tuesday noon should know the results nod.gif
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QUOTE(zitis @ Oct 23 2013, 05:00 PM)
u are muslim rite, u should know ur place..

dont get offended by my advice..
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Thank you ziti .... but are you sure Karex is a non syariah counter? ......
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Oct 23 2013, 05:33 PM)
Yup
Hope double gud news
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i dun think budget after election will be good... this time's gula is not giving but price increasing...
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Oct 23 2013, 05:34 PM)
Monday nite or tuesday noon should know the results  nod.gif
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Results should b out on Mon
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Oct 23 2013, 05:39 PM)
Results should b out on Mon
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the earlier the better, can get refund and "look forward" for the caring
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the earlier the better, can get refund and "look forward" for the caring
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QUOTE(kamrulbj6107 @ Oct 23 2013, 05:35 PM)
Thank you ziti .... but are you sure Karex is a non syariah counter? ......
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100% sure...
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Oct 23 2013, 05:22 PM)
Balloting of applications 25/10/2013
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Yes, UMW O& G also on Fri. Y can't the do it on the other 4 weekdays - then we can get our money back the next day if unsuccessful ? Now, need to wait additional 2 days cos of weedends..and the banks have use of our funds for additional 2 days to fatten up thier coffers.

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QUOTE(topearn @ Oct 23 2013, 06:33 PM)
Yes, UMW O& G also on Fri. Y can't the do it on the other 4 weekdays - then we can get our money back the next day if unsuccessful ? Now, need to wait additional 2 days cos of weedends..and the banks have use of our funds for additional 2 days to fatten up thier coffers.
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not 2 days but 3 days (if the banks have their way) nod.gif
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QUOTE(topearn @ Oct 23 2013, 06:33 PM)
Yes, UMW O& G also on Fri. Y can't the do it on the other 4 weekdays - then we can get our money back the next day if unsuccessful ? Now, need to wait additional 2 days cos of weedends..and the banks have use of our funds for additional 2 days to fatten up thier coffers.
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Consider very fast
Close on 23/10
Ballot on 25/10
MIH need 1 working day to calculate n sort all applications
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Those applied, just cross your fingers and hope for the best.
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Oct 23 2013, 06:37 PM)
not 2 days but 3 days (if the banks have their way)  nod.gif
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QUOTE(DR5 @ Oct 23 2013, 05:36 PM)
i dun think budget after election will be good... this time's gula is not giving but price increasing...
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QUOTE(zitis @ Oct 23 2013, 06:22 PM)
100% sure...
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are you sure that you are 100% sure? ...... make it 99.99% to be safe sure.....
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QUOTE(kamrulbj6107 @ Oct 23 2013, 07:30 PM)
are you sure that you are 100% sure? ...... make it 99.99% to be safe sure.....
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ok..110% sure, nvm its ur own decision.. my job is done as a muslim friend to remind u about this.

good luck.
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QUOTE(zitis @ Oct 23 2013, 07:47 PM)
ok..110% sure, nvm its ur own decision.. my job is done as a muslim friend to remind u about this.

good luck.
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thank you ziti for your advice....but i will wait for the syariah panels to give their rating ..... because i think , nothing wrong with condom, lubricants, medical probe covers and etc. produce by Karex ......
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QUOTE(kamrulbj6107 @ Oct 23 2013, 08:00 PM)
thank you ziti for your advice....but  i will wait for the syariah panels to give their rating ..... because i think , nothing wrong with condom, lubricants, medical probe covers and etc. produce by Karex ......
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it prevents childbirth... so its haram

any method of birth control is prohibited under islam
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QUOTE(spring onion @ Oct 23 2013, 08:17 PM)
it prevents childbirth... so its haram

any method of birth control is prohibited under islam
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Really? shocking.gif

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QUOTE(DR5 @ Oct 23 2013, 07:13 PM)
CIMBclick for the last 2 failed IPO, took 4 days (sat, sun, mon, tue)
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Me too same as U. They should ballot on Mon or Tue or Wed or Thurs, so after ballot, the next day (which is a working day), we get our money back if unsuccessful..so only 2 days.

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QUOTE(spring onion @ Oct 23 2013, 08:17 PM)
it prevents childbirth... so its haram

any method of birth control is prohibited under islam
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What about shoot outside the "V" for birth control - not allowed ?
What about do it only on her unfertile days and control not doing it on her fertile days - allowed or not ?
These 2 methods are also birth control methods.

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it prevents childbirth... so its haram

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QUOTE(spring onion @ Oct 23 2013, 08:17 PM)
it prevents childbirth... so its haram

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Dont simply say...where is ur sos

Where got say its haram for birth control...abortion is truly haram

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only permanent birth control (except for medical reasons) is forbidden in Islam. Dont correct me if i'm not wrong .....
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Dont simply say...where is ur sos

Where got say its haram for birth control...abortion is truly haram
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QUOTE(hyzam1212 @ Oct 23 2013, 08:46 PM)
Dont simply say...where is ur sos

Where got say its haram for birth control...abortion is truly haram
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as far as i know... it's only ok to use it under certain situation. and also how you define birth control.... so if you use condom for the sake of not having child, haram

use it for child spacing, ok

sorry for mislead/misinterpretation just now.

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tak shariah sbb ia menggalakkan perbuatan maksiat... seks bebas, seks sebelum kahwin and so on... confirm takder shariah.

as a muslim we should know the basic thing... got many other IPOs la.

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QUOTE(zitis @ Oct 23 2013, 09:24 PM)
tak shariah sbb ia menggalakkan perbuatan maksiat... seks bebas, seks sebelum kahwin and so on... confirm takder shariah.

as a muslim we should know the basic thing... got many other IPOs la.
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tak shariah sbb ia menggalakkan perbuatan maksiat... seks bebas, seks sebelum kahwin and so on... confirm takder shariah.

as a muslim we should know the basic thing... got many other IPOs la.
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as i said earlier, lets the syariah panelist do their job and we follow what they say......
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Cum on la guys, tis is not religion forum... Pls dun waste time discusing syariah or non syariah... D most important is kena ipo n open with great premium
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as i said earlier, lets the syariah panelist do their job and we follow what they say......
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im not pointed this to u, i dont reply to ur quote and dont even mentioned ur name - kenapa mesti terasa? dont get me wrong, it is for other muslim friends out there and also a reminder to myself... its ur money ur decision. whistling.gif cool.gif

"apa yang ternyata adalah ternyata, siapalah kita ingin mengubah hukum tuhan."

pls take note : no need to reply this quote ya.... cheers

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QUOTE(zitis @ Oct 24 2013, 12:46 AM)
im not pointed this to u,  i dont reply to ur quote and dont even mentioned ur name - kenapa mesti terasa? dont get me wrong, it is for other muslim friends out there and also a reminder to myself... its ur money ur decision. whistling.gif cool.gif

"apa yang ternyata adalah ternyata, siapalah kita ingin mengubah hukum tuhan."

pls take note : no need to reply this quote ya.... cheers
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Adik Zitis yg di kasihi.............Uncle dah beli condom sejak kahwin lagi...ingat duit belian ni dah lepas deposit beli proton saga dah...ribuan rm...tp beli yg murah je yg termampu skrg harga condom dah mahal...guna condom anak jadi jugak...skrg dua org dah pergi ambil medic luar negeri dan yg bongsu form4 MCKK...dlm islam syarak ada mengharuskan inzal...iaitu "tembak luar" ada yg ckp zone V la dan sebagai nya....pakai condom adalah satu cara inzal zaman moden....dulu tembak cabut cepat...or wife tlg masturbasi dll...di bolehkan atas dasar kesihatan suami atau isteri or varoius medical reasons lah...panel syariah kena investigate on various aspect utk syariah compliance....secara holistik.............out of topic skit...sorry for my non muslim frens....Uncle apply ipo ini utk cover up my investment..hahahahaaa....jgn ambil semua...love all of you..muaaaaaaaahh
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Adik Zitis yg di kasihi.............Uncle dah beli condom sejak kahwin lagi...ingat duit belian ni dah lepas deposit beli proton saga dah...ribuan rm...tp beli yg murah je yg termampu skrg harga condom dah mahal...guna condom anak jadi jugak...skrg dua org dah pergi ambil medic luar negeri dan yg bongsu form4 MCKK...dlm islam syarak ada mengharuskan inzal...iaitu "tembak luar" ada yg ckp zone V la dan sebagai nya....pakai condom adalah satu cara inzal zaman moden....dulu tembak cabut cepat...or wife tlg masturbasi dll...di bolehkan atas dasar kesihatan suami atau isteri or varoius medical reasons lah...panel syariah kena investigate on various aspect utk syariah compliance....secara holistik.............out of topic skit...sorry for my non muslim frens....Uncle apply ipo ini utk cover up my investment..hahahahaaa....jgn ambil semua...love all of you..muaaaaaaaahh
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KAREX BERHAD
Opening of application : 11/10/2013
Closing of application : 23/10/2013
Balloting of applications : 25/10/2013
Allotment of IPO shares to successful applicants : 04/11/2013
Tentative listing date : 06/11/2013


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QUOTE(ronnie @ Oct 24 2013, 08:16 AM)
Just a reminder...

KAREX BERHAD
Opening of application : 11/10/2013
Closing of application : 23/10/2013
Balloting of applications : 25/10/2013
Allotment of IPO shares to successful applicants : 04/11/2013
Tentative listing date : 06/11/2013

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When is the date we get to know whether we hit the IPO? On 25/10/13 (tomorrow)?
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When is the date we get to know whether we hit the IPO? On 25/10/13 (tomorrow)?
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should be a few days before the share allotment e.g. 4 Nov
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Fair enough...
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Good luck to you too Doctor Lima!!!kalau profit alot jgn lupa!
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Uncle...U pon jangan lupa ya..hahaha... rclxm9.gif
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Just incase i profited..will buy AKAMOTO branded condom...1 box extra super superthin...0.01 for your usage to beloved wifey..."like original feel" punya Doctor5 ok?
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Just  incase i profited..will buy AKAMOTO branded condom...1 box extra super superthin...0.01 for your usage to beloved wifey..."like original feel" punya Doctor5 ok?
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seems like extremely "experienced" expert condom utilizer ya supported by accurate measurement and research-based data!! brows.gif haha i like the "original feel" part... i wish u extremely superb good luck!!! thumbup.gif thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
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I just noticed that the MIB paper is 'draft - for internal use only'. How did you manage to get it?

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Biz almost similar to rubber glove industry which is recession proof
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Biz almost similar to rubber glove industry which is recession proof
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hmm... just because both condom and glove are made of rubber doesn't mean the two industries are the similar. If we consider Porter 5 Forces, only one factor is the same.

Porter 5 Forces:
(1) threat of new entrants
(2) threat of substitutes (as far as contraception is concerned, condom has substitutes)
(3) bargaining power of customers (condoms and gloves have different buyers)
(4) bargaining power of suppliers (this is where both industries are similar)
(5) intensity of rivalry (the two industries have different rivals)

Maybe during recession time, jobless people lose s.e.x. drive tongue.gif
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QUOTE(river.sand @ Oct 24 2013, 04:52 PM)
hmm... just because both condom and glove are made of rubber doesn't mean the two industries are the similar. If we consider Porter 5 Forces, only one factor is the same.

Porter 5 Forces:
(1) threat of new entrants
(2) threat of substitutes (as far as contraception is concerned, condom has substitutes)
(3) bargaining power of customers (condoms and gloves have different buyers)
(4) bargaining power of suppliers (this is where both industries are similar)
(5) intensity of rivalry (the two industries have different rivals)

Maybe during recession time, jobless people lose s.e.x. drive  tongue.gif
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Gud analysis by applying Michael Porter concept
Study dis concept during Uni
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hmm... just because both condom and glove are made of rubber doesn't mean the two industries are the similar. If we consider Porter 5 Forces, only one factor is the same.

Porter 5 Forces:
(1) threat of new entrants
(2) threat of substitutes (as far as contraception is concerned, condom has substitutes)
(3) bargaining power of customers (condoms and gloves have different buyers)
(4) bargaining power of suppliers (this is where both industries are similar)
(5) intensity of rivalry (the two industries have different rivals)

Maybe during recession time, jobless people lose s.e.x. drive  tongue.gif
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hmm... just because both condom and glove are made of rubber doesn't mean the two industries are the similar. If we consider Porter 5 Forces, only one factor is the same.

Porter 5 Forces:
(1) threat of new entrants
(2) threat of substitutes (as far as contraception is concerned, condom has substitutes)
(3) bargaining power of customers (condoms and gloves have different buyers)
(4) bargaining power of suppliers (this is where both industries are similar)
(5) intensity of rivalry (the two industries have different rivals)

Maybe during recession time, jobless people lose s.e.x. drive  tongue.gif
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not really, during recession, people cannot affort entertainment, so will tend to play at home.
But since they cant afford children...
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QUOTE(Manso55 @ Oct 24 2013, 07:37 AM)
Adik Zitis yg di kasihi.............Uncle dah beli condom sejak kahwin lagi...ingat duit belian ni dah lepas deposit beli proton saga dah...ribuan rm...tp beli yg murah je yg termampu skrg harga condom dah mahal...guna condom anak jadi jugak...skrg dua org dah pergi ambil medic luar negeri dan yg bongsu form4 MCKK...dlm islam syarak ada mengharuskan inzal...iaitu "tembak luar" ada yg ckp zone V la dan sebagai nya....pakai condom adalah satu cara inzal zaman moden....dulu tembak cabut cepat...or wife tlg masturbasi dll...di bolehkan atas dasar kesihatan suami atau isteri or varoius medical reasons lah...panel syariah kena investigate on various aspect utk syariah compliance....secara holistik.............out of topic skit...sorry for my non muslim frens....Uncle apply ipo ini utk cover up my investment..hahahahaaa....jgn ambil semua...love all of you..muaaaaaaaahh
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Hahaha... Very nice explanation!
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I think Zitis had a point regarding the non-syariah compliant status. Some Muslim scholars have viewed condoms as not permissible however contemporary Muslim scholars might not agree with them. Just wait the official announcement from syariah panel before investing.

Btw, karex become number one by small margin only. They also need to increase their brand visibility rather than just contract manufacturing for OBM. My 2 centsssss..
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not really, during recession, people cannot affort entertainment, so will tend to play at home.
But since they cant afford children...
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Do we have statistics to show whether condom sales increase or decrease during recession?
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What i know is, my last box of condoms was bought 2 years ago. And it only cost me rm 12 for 10 nos.

I dont see the mass the repeating purchase from individual household. But might be different supply demand from massage parlour
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What i know is, my last box of condoms was bought 2 years ago. And it only cost me rm 12 for 10 nos.

I dont see the mass the repeating purchase from individual household. But might be different supply demand from massage parlour
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Still can use ...surely got expiry date, right ? Better use it B4 then, if got.

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also produce the largest condom in the world ..... ha ha
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Condom manufacturer, Karex Bhd, en route for a listing on the Main Market of Bursa Malaysia Securities Bhd, registered a subscription rate of 22.7x for its 13.5m shares made available to the Malaysian public. (Bernama)

from cimb morning report,
22.7x chances to get seen very small le
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The ballot was completed on 24-October evening

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The ballot was completed on 24-October evening

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This is very strange. How come ballot 1 day earlier ? MIH doing over-delivering practice to win the best customer award in Malaysia ?

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Result out ? I thought today balloting day ? How come they balloted yesterday ?
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Result out ? I thought today balloting day ? How come they balloted yesterday ?
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today got Budget 2014 mah, everyone sitting in front TV or radio, where got mood to work, so they ballot yesterday loh ! (I am just simply guessing)
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Thanks for the result sharing. I applied very small quantity and only 6.6% chance.
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CIMB result out. Share not alloted! sad.gif
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yes, result out.

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yes, result out.

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Still can use ...surely got expiry date, right ? Better use it B4 then, if got.
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yes, result out.

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any other forumer kena?
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I think not many kena since the % so low. and also not many bumi apply since it is not syariah.
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Are you going to distribute some to us ?

I think not many kena since the % so low. and also not many bumi apply since it is not syariah.
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Haha i read that. Can not comment! tongue.gif
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Bumi portion was over subscribed by 10.31 times wo
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But Catholics also cannot use condom...
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someone said bumi portion would under-subscribe, just look the table shakehead.gif

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http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/damianth...d-common-sense/
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POPE did encourage use dom dom, prevent HIV.

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/damianth...d-common-sense/
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ya ya... I said 'maybe', meaning that it could go either way.
Do we have statistics to show whether condom sales increase or decrease during recession?
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Adik Zitis....any reasons why so many bumi's buy condoms nowadays?.....no wonder condom sales like "goreng pisang panas" the wives bought for them or they buy online like on this IPO Condoms.Well.........contemplating of females condom manufacturing now? iz it worth an investment.....or contraceptive injection better?
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What do guns, burglar alarms, and condoms have in common? Their sales all boomed in 2009, with condom sales jumping 22% over the same period in 2008. But why? http://www.fastcompany.com/1748288/why-con...eries-explained
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Thanks.
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my RHB is the slowest still show pending. Didn't put too much hope tho.
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wow exciting nya~ CIMB is fast!

my RHB is the slowest still show pending. Didn't put too much hope tho.
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If you apply 1M shares, chance is 35.7%. biggrin.gif
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Results should b out today after 7pm
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so is next monday 7pm?
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For Bumi, 500,000 shares n above is 100% success rate
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Pana is not bumi. biggrin.gif So her chance is 35.7% if applied 1M shares. biggrin.gif
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may i know muslim is not encourage to use comdom? or forbidden to use condom?
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maybank2u usually will only show result the next day 7pm right?
so is next monday 7pm?
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Pana is not bumi. biggrin.gif So her chance is 35.7% if applied 1M shares. biggrin.gif
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Pana is not bumi. biggrin.gif So her chance is 35.7% if applied 1M shares. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Manso55 @ Oct 25 2013, 12:14 PM)
Adik Zitis....any reasons why so many bumi's buy condoms nowadays?.....no wonder condom sales like "goreng pisang panas" the wives bought for them or they buy online like on this IPO Condoms.Well.........contemplating of females condom manufacturing now? iz it worth an investment.....or contraceptive injection better?
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Nais wan uncle...i hope u hoot first day haha...i think u better stick with using or buying ipo, no need to go manufacturing rclxms.gif

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may i know muslim is not encourage to use comdom? or forbidden to use condom?
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Lets get this thing straight...In my honest opinion, when u r talking about shariah in stock market, SC has its own criteria but its already specific to certain items in the islamic law but it can be expanded to a certain degree according to case by case...I think some of us may not agree but I believe there is a thin boundary in this type industry (which is a first) when u r talking about this particular latex product...im not siding anyone, realistically some quarter will say it is haram bcos u r supporting sex-related crimes, Islam's wrongdoings etc...the other half will say that its not haram bcos some r using it as a contraceptive measure in family planning and medical purposes...i believe this kind of thing that actually affected the oversubscription rate...with other not yet to be classified as shariah stocks, most of us may take the initial approach in buying first and if SC announces the stocks is not shariah-compliant later, u have to take the capital and forgo the profits...

like uncle said hollistically speaking, being a muslim husband with kids, i can say that condom is on par with contraceptive injection and pills, weve been given these options by islamic medical expertise during our course in expanding the family...islam doesnot I repeat doesnot prohibits the usage of it...example of medical reasons is when your wife is already experiencing caesarian labour previously and u need to gap your wife's pregnancy, its already harus which is required...some couples do not prefer contraceptive injection and pills so condoms is the other safe option...the haram comes when u r only talking about abortion without any particular reason when your wife is pregnant with your child...that is haram...i hope that will clear the uncertainty around this matter and hoping that this will not mislead people

edit and thanks river.sand to pointing out the source

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the chances of getting this ipo is as slim as winning lottery..that's the difficult part about ipo..lousy ipo..no one wants...the hot one...everyone wants to have a piece of it..sigh..better buy Toto..the chances maybe higher than getting this condom stock
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the chances of getting this ipo is as slim as winning lottery..that's the difficult part about ipo..lousy ipo..no one wants...the hot one...everyone wants to have a piece of it..sigh..better buy Toto..the chances maybe higher than getting this condom stock
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the chances of getting this ipo is as slim as winning lottery..that's the difficult part about ipo..lousy ipo..no one wants...the hot one...everyone wants to have a piece of it..sigh..better buy Toto..the chances maybe higher than getting this condom stock
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Nais wan uncle...i hope u hoot first day haha...i think u better stick with using or buying ipo, no need to go manufacturing rclxms.gif
Lets get this thing straight...In my honest opinion, when u r talking about shariah in stock market, SC has its own criteria but its already specific to certain items in the islamic law but it can be expanded to a certain degree according to case by case...I think some of us may not agree but I believe there is a thin boundary in this type industry (which is a first) when u r talking about this particular latex product...im not siding anyone, realistically some quarter will say it is haram bcos u r supporting sex-related crimes, Islam's wrongdoings etc...the other half will say that its not haram bcos some r using it as a contraceptive measure in family planning and medical purposes...i believe this kind of thing that actually affected the oversubscription rate...with other not yet to be classified as shariah stocks, most of us may take the initial approach in buying first and if SC announces the stocks is not shariah-compliant later, u have to take the capital and forgo the profits...

like uncle said hollistically speaking, being a muslim husband with kids, i can say that condom is on par with contraceptive injection and pills, weve been given these options by islamic medical expertise during our course in expanding the family...islam doesnot I repeat doesnot prohibits the usage of it...example of medical reasons is when your wife is already experiencing caesarian labour previously and u need to gap your wife's pregnancy, its already harus which is required...some couples do not prefer contraceptive injection and pills so condoms is the other safe option...the haram comes when u r only talking about abortion without any particular reason when your wife is pregnant with your child...that is haram...i hope that will clear the uncertainty around this matter and hoping that this will not mislead people

edit and thanks river.sand to pointing out the source
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6% or 60% ,stil need to use it.
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