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post Feb 3 2013, 04:50 PM


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Karex Bhd, the world's largest condom maker, is planning to offer 67.5 million shares, or 25% of its enlarged capital, in its initial public offering (IPO) in a bid to expand further.

In its draft prospectus, the company said the IPO would comprise the issuance of 40.5 million new shares and 27 million shares offered for sale by its existing shareholders. The investing public is entitled to a tranche of 13.5 million new shares, representing 5% of the company.

Although it did not reveal how much it plans to raise, it will allocate 54% of the proceeds for capital expenditure to expand its operational facilities, involving the construction of new buildings and the expansion of manufacturing facilities for its subsidiaries, Innolatex (Thailand) Ltd and Innolatex Sdn Bhd.

Five per cent has been earmarked for research and development to expand its product range, 32.7% for working capital and the balance for listing expenses.

RHB Investment Bank Bhd is the principal adviser for the IPO, while ZJ Advisory Sdn Bhd is the financial adviser.

For its financial year ended Dec 31, 2012, the company posted RM12.01mil in net profit on revenue of RM188.75mil. That compares with the 2011 net profit of RM6.98mil and revenue of RM181.75mil.

With an annual production capacity of about three billion pieces, its global market sales cover more than 110 countries.

“According to Infobusiness' independent market research report on the strategic and competitive analysis of the global condom industry, our leading position is further reflected by our export market share of 59.5% (export volume from Malaysia of approximately 6.5 million kg) amongst condom manufacturers in Malaysia for the year 2011,” it said.

Its products are sold via commercial, tender and original brand manufacturers (OBM) markets. In fiscal 2012, commercial, tender and OBM markets constituted approximately 56.9%, 39.3% and 3.8%, respectively, to the group's revenue.

The company believes that its prospects are favourable based on several factors such as growing demand and the non-existence of substitutes for its products.

“With the growing world population, the demand for condoms is expected to grow in tandem,” it said.

While it said there were several substitute products such as oral contraceptives and female condoms, condoms still remained a popular choice due to their economical and easy-to-use nature.

Initially known as Banrub, the company was founded by Goh Huang Chiat and his family when he decided to diversify into manufacturing of latex condoms.

Over the years it ventured into other businesses, including the manufacturing of sterile catheters, lubricating jelly and the setting up of a plant in Thailand.


Opening of application 11/10/2013
Closing of application 23/10/2013
Balloting of applications 25/10/2013
Allotment of IPO shares to successful applicants 04/11/2013
Tentative listing date 06/11/2013


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Durex not world's largest kah?
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Never heard of ghis brand
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It is the largest in term of production but get beaten here by durex as the premium brand
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I though Pleasure Latex is larger than Karex. Rupanya Karex is the big boss for dom2.

Karex is a sound company based in Pontian and if the valuation is reasonable, worthwhile to take a look. Not many Malaysian company can thrive in world marketplace. Latex products is one of the industry dominated by Malaysian company.

For Karex to grow, they should be more aggressive in acquisition since currently there are way too many condom player around.
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post Feb 4 2013, 08:32 AM


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What are the threats to condom makers?
I know Catholic Church is against contraception, hence the use of condom, and pills for that matter. How about Islam hmm.gif
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QUOTE(river.sand @ Feb 4 2013, 08:32 AM)
What are the threats to condom makers?
I know Catholic Church is against contraception, hence the use of condom, and pills for that matter. How about Islam  hmm.gif
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i think its ok in Islam since ive never heard its haram to wear a condom or to buy condom or to sell it.

N when is the listing date again?

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The world had a higher weight for youth population, hence the market is there... As the new era youth is not like the old timers. Very da open..

So sex also very often practice freely..
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QUOTE(foofoosasa @ Feb 3 2013, 05:35 PM)
Never heard of ghis brand
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Karex's Pontian factory produces 2 Billion condoms a year. Other factory in Klang and Hatyai produces another 1 Billion comdoms. It also produces condoms for top global brands. It also has its own house brand, Carex, which is sold in more than 30 countries.
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Maybe Durex buy from them..? And repackage it with a different marketing image.. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Feb 4 2013, 03:27 PM)
Maybe Durex buy from them..? And repackage it with a different marketing image.. biggrin.gif
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Maybe they do that. This company currently does some contract manufacturing for global condom brands.
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Durex produce in India...
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QUOTE(MatXSelamat @ Feb 4 2013, 04:39 PM)
Durex produce in India...
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price?
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QUOTE(chrisw @ Feb 4 2013, 05:13 PM)
price?
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Feb 4 2013, 10:50 AM)
The world had a higher weight for youth population, hence the market is there... As the new era youth is not like the old timers. Very da open..

So sex also very often practice freely..
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Let's see the potential for condom industry...

China - aging population (result of one-child policy)
India - young population (big potential here rclxms.gif )
Japan - aging population, and Japanese couples seldom make love (despite the fame of Japanese AV)
Indonesia, Vietnam - young population
Philippines - recently legalize condom (one Filipina woman is reported to have given birth to 22 children sweat.gif )
Europe - aging population
USA - relatively young population among industrialized world
Africa - young population, but many are pious Christians who don't use condom (the results: high birth rates and high HIV infection rates)

So, the potential is huge?
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QUOTE(river.sand @ Feb 4 2013, 05:55 PM)
Let's see the potential for condom industry...

China - aging population (result of one-child policy)
India - young population (big potential here  rclxms.gif )
Japan - aging population, and Japanese couples seldom make love (despite the fame of Japanese AV)
Indonesia, Vietnam - young population
Philippines - recently legalize condom (one Filipina woman is reported to have given birth to 22 children  sweat.gif )
Europe - aging population
USA - relatively young population among industrialized world
Africa - young population, but many are pious Christians who don't use condom (the results: high birth rates and high HIV infection rates)

So, the potential is huge?
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don't forget our country Malaysia & also thailand(brows.gif). Vietnam also not forgetting brows.gif thumbup.gif
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Based on my crystal ball, price is MYR2.20
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QUOTE(river.sand @ Feb 4 2013, 05:55 PM)
Let's see the potential for condom industry...

China - aging population (result of one-child policy)
India - young population (big potential here  rclxms.gif )
Japan - aging population, and Japanese couples seldom make love (despite the fame of Japanese AV)
Indonesia, Vietnam - young population
Philippines - recently legalize condom (one Filipina woman is reported to have given birth to 22 children  sweat.gif )
Europe - aging population
USA - relatively young population among industrialized world
Africa - young population, but many are pious Christians who don't use condom (the results: high birth rates and high HIV infection rates)

So, the potential is huge?
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I am doing brief economy analysis for asian countries. Till now most of the countries have a young population.

Philippines and Vietnam - VERY young population and free sex is rampant. Government have to curb by promoting protected sex.

Btw, since its just randomise countries, why not we ask around our fellow forumers here. Who here practise safe sex?

As a start, I dont do sex. So none.
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QUOTE(GloryKnight @ Feb 4 2013, 10:30 PM)
I am doing brief economy analysis for asian countries. Till now most of the countries have a young population.

Philippines and Vietnam - VERY young population and free sex is rampant. Government have to curb by promoting protected sex.

Btw, since its just randomise countries, why not we ask around our fellow forumers here. Who here practise safe sex?

As a start, I dont do sex. So none.
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Syariah compliance??????
How to use condom?
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QUOTE(Manso55 @ Feb 5 2013, 11:11 PM)
Syariah compliance??????
How to use condom?
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hi manso, how to use condom...you go google. buy > open pouch > wear it > use it> throw it in the pouch or wrapped it with tissue and throw it in bin. done.
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when this ipo launch and listing date?
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QUOTE(GloryKnight @ Feb 6 2013, 09:50 AM)
hi manso, how to use condom...you go google. buy > open pouch > wear it > use it> throw it in the pouch or wrapped it with tissue and throw it in bin. done.
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Tq..A brief explanation........short n sharp!!!!
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Some news of Karex...

"Compared to a pint of beer, a box of 12 condoms gives you a more pleasurable time." That's the philosophy of Goh Miah Kiat, CEO of Karex Industries, which claims to be the world's biggest condom maker by volume, producing three billion annually, more than any other manufacturer.

The array of cheeky condoms on his desk—textured, flavoured, multi-coloured—would make most people blush. They come grape and strawberry flavoured, with pleasure-boosting textures, barber pole-like striping, Baggy sized and the opposite model, as well as missile-shaped...


http://www.dailychilli.com/news/20557-bigg...ntian-malaysia-

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The Packaging dont look appealing - it looks sorta out-dated or old-fashioned.
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http://investvine.com/worlds-largest-condom-maker-plans-ipo/

The company has factories in Pontian and Klang in Malaysia and in Hat Yai in Thailand. Its current market share is 15 per cent of the world’s condom market of 20 billion pieces a year. Its main competitors are UK-based Rekitt Benckiser with its Durex brand which produces condoms mainly in China, and US company Church & Dwight which sells condoms under the Trojan brand. All in all, there are currently 13 players in the global condom industry with other strong selling brands being Lifestyles, Beyond Seven, Trustex, Inspiral, Kimono, Pleasure Plus, Crown, Paradise, Okamoto, Ria and Impulse.

Karex is a contract manufacturer for some of the top global condom brands and sells its own house brand under the name of Carex.
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No wonder hard to find here...contract for others, i see...foreign fund might be interested...the buying will not be so soon...honestly speaking the business is evergreen even the packaging is not...constant demand all over the world if the marketing is right
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I think the demand won't be constant. It will be growing.
Won't be surprise children as young as 12,13,14 starts to use condom in the year of 2020.
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Apr 18 2013, 01:24 PM)
I think the demand won't be constant. It will be growing.
Won't be surprise children as young as 12,13,14 starts to use condom in the year of 2020.
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Apr 18 2013, 01:49 PM)
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Hahaha... biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

Wad to do... All the movie ini macam
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Did not know malaysia got so many world producer factory/products.....especially rubber products.....

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QUOTE(cwhong @ Apr 19 2013, 02:14 PM)
Did not know malaysia got so many world producer factory/products.....especially rubber products.....
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Should know because Malaysia the world leader in rubber products mar.
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QUOTE(GloryKnight @ Apr 19 2013, 03:04 PM)
Should know because Malaysia the world leader in rubber products mar.
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Thailand is world number 1 in latex producer......
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QUOTE(cwhong @ Apr 19 2013, 04:24 PM)
Thailand is world number 1 in latex producer......
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Malaysia moves up the value chain - from latex producer to condom maker rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(cwhong @ Apr 19 2013, 04:24 PM)
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U got investments in Thailand hmm.gif
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U got investments in Thailand hmm.gif
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See so sensitive....... Nolah just blow water only...... My turn kena audit........ hmm.gif
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Karex: Listing plan safe, set for H2

"We should be listed on Bursa Malaysia in the second half of this year," its executive director Goh Miah Kiat told Business Times in an interview.

Goh's reaffirmation of Karex's initial public offering (IPO) comes at a time when the Securities Commission (SC) is tightening the requirements for companies seeking to list on Bursa Malaysia.

Market talk is that listing plans by China-based companies and at least two mining-related special-purpose acquisition companies (SPACs), namely Australaysia Resources and Minerals Bhd and TerraGali Resources Bhd, are being scrutinised by the SC.

He said the IPO is going through the usual regulatory process and that nothing has been finalised yet.

Karex's draft prospectus was first put up on the SC website in February, much earlier that the prospectuses of Australaysia and TerraGali, which appeared in March.


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http://www.thestar.com.my/Business/Busines...es-in-2016.aspx

latest...net profit doubled from 2011...proceeds will be going for capex and r&d...shld be good long term...proposed listing on the 4Q13
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Must support dis IPO
Get redy $$$ now
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QUOTE(Manso55 @ Feb 5 2013, 11:11 PM)
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U mean it's not halal to use condom ?

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QUOTE(GloryKnight @ Feb 4 2013, 10:30 PM)
I am doing brief economy analysis for asian countries. Till now most of the countries have a young population.

Philippines and Vietnam - VERY young population and free sex is rampant. Government have to curb by promoting protected sex.

Btw, since its just randomise countries, why not we ask around our fellow forumers here. Who here practise safe sex?

As a start, I dont do sex. So none.
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So U're single ? Lots of single lenglui in this forum.......so here's your chance.

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They earned RM12 mil PAT for FYE 2012
Wondering how much profit margin for each condom? icon_idea.gif
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Condom producer Karex Bhd to issue 40.5m new shares under IPO

Karex Bhd is issuing 40.5 million new shares and it also offering for sale 27 million existing shares under its listing exercise.

The company, which is seeking listing on the Main Market of Bursa Malaysia Securities Bhd, said on Friday the enlarged share capital upon listing would be 270.0 million shares.

Karex had on Friday signed an underwriting agreement with RHB Investment Bank Bhd where the latter is also the principal adviser and joint placement agent for the listing exercise.

Karex CEO Goh Miah Kiat signed the documents on behalf of Karex while RHB Investment Bank was represented by its managing director and CEO Mike Chan.

It has a total capacity to produce three billion pieces of condoms per year, making it the single largest condom manufacturer in the world.

It expects its prospectus to be launched in October and targets to be listed by November.

Goh said the listing would enable Karex to leverage on the growing opportunities of the global condom market.

He cited the growing demand driven mainly by the increasing global population which was projected to reach eight billion in 2025.

Karex was incorporated in 1988 in Johor, and it had a plant each in Pontian, Johor; Port Klang, Selangor; and Hat Yai, Thailand.
In addition to manufacturing condoms, the group also manufactures lubricating jelly and other medical devices which include catheters and probe covers.
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Wondering whether Karex need to meet MITI requirement?
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Any idea who own the company? and realted business

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QUOTE(ise @ Sep 30 2013, 04:19 PM)
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The company was founded by Goh Huang Chiat and his family
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The company was founded by Goh Huang Chiat and his family
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They owned how many %?
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Karex to launch IPO prospectus next month

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Condom cartons as substitute for cash dividend every quarterly? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 30 2013, 07:09 PM)
They owned how many %?
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I don't know, but I assume they own majority
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That's for sure.

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That's for sure.

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I don't know, but I assume they own majority
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That's for sure.

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how you know?  hmm.gif
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Draft prospectus
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Another existing condom player oredi listed on Bursa
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Another existing condom player oredi listed on Bursa
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who? Rubberex?

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who? Rubberex?

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Takaso Rubber Products S/B which is owned by Takaso 7071
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how many taiko/ taiche's hubbie uses condom here? Let alone using this particular brand? hmm.gif

I always see the Durex brand in phamarcies, 7-11 etc. Never see this brand.
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how many taiko/ taiche's hubbie uses condom here? Let alone using this particular brand? hmm.gif

I always see the Durex brand in phamarcies, 7-11 etc. Never see this brand.
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how many taiko/ taiche's hubbie uses condom here? Let alone using this particular brand? hmm.gif

I always see the Durex brand in phamarcies, 7-11 etc. Never see this brand.
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"normal" ppl use good brands like Durex

But call girls normaly carries ciplak brands

now, u tell, who uses more condoms whistling.gif
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"normal" ppl use good brands like Durex

But call girls normaly carries ciplak brands

now, u tell, who uses more condoms whistling.gif
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woo... you are right, far bigger market there than the normal couple/family segment. rclxms.gif
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woo... you are right,  far bigger market there than the normal couple/family segment.  rclxms.gif
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Pandai pun brows.gif

If call girls carry expensive Durex, their profit reduce yo tongue.gif
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To me it's a BUY. But wonder when IPO will happen. Reasons:
http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/heal...ticle-1.1299207

1. "Industry estimates project a global condom market worth $6 billion in 2015, or some 27 billion condoms, compared to 20 billion in 2012." 35% growth in 3 years or 11+% per year. Quite good.

2. "Carex - the brand name of Karex condoms - holds about 15 percent of the global condom market, according to sector analysts. Other leading brands Durex, marketed by Britain's Reckitt Benckiser group, and Trojan, owned by the US firm Church & Dwight, make up roughly a combined 25 percent." Suppose Durex and Trojan are premium brand akin to Apple and Samsung, Carex will be like China brand phone, which means it has great potential to grow although with thinner margin. Still it's quite possible to get from 15% to 25% in a growing market as in point #1. It definitely help with its presence in Asia, where most the (population) growth will come from.

3. "About half of Karex's output goes to bulk purchases by governments or international agencies' safe-sex drives, mainly the UN Population Fund and the US Agency for International Development." This is the key driver. Population are growing, safe sex is always an expenses item for Health Ministry everywhere (and they won't give you Durex tongue.gif )

For other considerations (in response to some posts above)
1. Japanese are ageing and have little sex with spouse, but trust me, they still have sex, a lot (just not with their spouse, the more reason for safe sex biggrin.gif )
2. "The largely Catholic Philippines, for example, passed a law in January (2013) requiring government health centres to supply free condoms and birth control pills, and mandating sex education in schools." The world is changing, so is Catholic Church. It helps with the new Pope being quite open-minded (with his favorable view on gay and all).
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To me it's a BUY. But wonder when IPO will happen. Reasons:
http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/heal...ticle-1.1299207

2. "Carex - the brand name of Karex condoms - holds about 15 percent of the global condom market, according to sector analysts. Other leading brands Durex, marketed by Britain's Reckitt Benckiser group, and Trojan, owned by the US firm Church & Dwight, make up roughly a combined 25 percent." Suppose Durex and Trojan are premium brand akin to Apple and Samsung, Carex will be like China brand phone, which means it has great potential to grow although with thinner margin. Still it's quite possible to get from 15% to 25% in a growing market as in point #1. It definitely help with its presence in Asia, where most the (population) growth will come from.
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This IPO should b out this month
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Today in The Star newspaper. KAREX IPO prospectus date 11 oct 2013:

Opening Application 10am 11 Oct 2013.
Closing Application 5pm 23 Oct 2013.

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how much per unit ?
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Total Retail - 20 250 000 unit.
For Public - 13 500 000 unit.
For Company - 6 750 000 unit.

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RM1.85 per unit.

Total Retail - 20 250 000 unit.
For Public - 13 500 000 unit.
For Company - 6 750 000 unit.
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Need to read Prospectus 1st
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KUALA LUMPUR: Rubber products manufacturer Karex Bhd plans to raise RM74.92mil from its issuance of 40.50 million new shares at RM1.85 a share under its listing exercise.

According to its abridged prospectus on Friday, it said the IPO would be 67.50 million shares comprising of the public issue of 40.50 million new shares and an offer for sale of 27 million existing shares.

Karex said the institutional offering of 47.25 million shares could comprise of 27 million offer shares and 20.25 million issue shares to institutional and selected investors in Malaysia, Singapore and Hong Kong.

The retail offering of 20.25 million shares would comprise of 13.50 million offer shares to the public and the remaining 6.75 million issue shares to eligible directors, employees and business associates.

Karex produces condoms, sterile catheters, latex probe covers, latex sleeves and rubber products.

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anyone have the prospectus? mind posting it>? thx.
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Details of IPO timeline

http://www.mih.com.my/index.php?page=ongoing
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if got the extract of their financials, md&a is even better tongue.gif
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if got the extract of their financials, md&a is even better  tongue.gif
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M awaiting the Prospectus from Bursa
Until now, no news yet
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This worth going for than Westports icon_idea.gif
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Condom also RM1.85 ? So expensive!
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Prospectus

http://www.bursamalaysia.com/market/listed...cements/1432281
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can do a summary? rclxms.gif
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A box of condom is a necessity. laugh.gif


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6th November listing

most listing proceeds goes to capex, some goes to debt rapayment and having R&D is a plus yet again...

Interesting facts that seem to be not related at all

a) the CEO is very young
b) one of the Independent director has a very good connection with Selangor Gov entities ie KDEB, KPSB, KHSB and the recent Taliworks saga
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can do a summary?  rclxms.gif
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Will try if have time
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Opening of application 11/10/2013
Closing of application 23/10/2013
Balloting of applications 25/10/2013
Allotment of IPO shares to successful applicants 04/11/2013
Tentative listing date 06/11/2013

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yea.. still thinking at the price of 0.5 0.8
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Me too. I thought shd be below RM1. Now 1.85 huh! Anyway, i think i will try some.
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i guess need to skip this domdom. reason over my budget price.
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Why? You condom super user is it?  hmm.gif
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Quick review got me some interesting information.


Public (non-bumi & others) - 6.75mil shares

PE is 16.81x - based on EPS 11c (FYE13)

No dividend policy

Got Senior Executive Director Position on BOD

World Largest Producer of Condom with 3bil pieces (2012) - Also produce for Durex, Trustex & One Brand

Got Pre-IPO exercise

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I thought you always go pub 1....?  whistling.gif
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i guess need to skip this domdom. reason over my budget price.
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Have u read d prospectus?
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They have identified 7 risk in this industry
1 of them is 'There is a risk that there may be a cure or vaccine for HIV/AIDS'

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They have identified 7 risk in this industry
1 of them is 'There is a risk that there may be a cure or vaccine for HIV/AIDS'
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Good news for the people, Bad news for condom producers nod.gif
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wah... you have changed your profile picture. So macho tongue.gif
I thought last time you also didn't use dom dom with your ex?


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They have identified 7 risk in this industry
1 of them is 'There is a risk that there may be a cure or vaccine for HIV/AIDS'
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What are the other risks?
Even if cure is found for AIDS, there are other STDs. And certainly we still need condom for contraception...

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I wonder this stock shariah compliant or not? If not then less support from national funds.. hmm.gif

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wah... you have changed your profile picture. So macho  tongue.gif
I thought last time you also didn't use dom dom with your ex?
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Sometimes if she wants "it" during fertile period...have to wear lor blush.gif

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I don't think it's shariah compliant, didn't mention anything about it in the prospectus nod.gif
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Dun think so as there is no allocation to MITI investors
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if <RM1 ok but this RM1.8 blink.gif
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They offer 2.5% each of share capital to public (bumi n non bumi) for subscription as compared to 1% each oni for Westports n UMWOG
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Even if cure is found for AIDS, there are other STDs. And certainly we still need condom for contraception...
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if <RM1 ok but this RM1.8 blink.gif
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They offer 2.5% each of share capital to public (bumi n non bumi) for subscription as compared to 1% each oni for Westports n UMWOG
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Yup, better on % but only 6.75mil each. Westport & UMW-OG even only 1%, it's 34.1mil & 24mil shares respectively nod.gif
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Oct 12 2013, 01:00 PM)
Yup, better on % but only 6.75mil each.  Westport & UMW-OG even only 1%, it's 34.1mil & 24mil shares respectively  nod.gif
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Well, u can't xpect better % n more shares concurrently
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So your opinion?  hmm.gif
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u?

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They have identified 7 risk in this industry
1 of them is 'There is a risk that there may be a cure or vaccine for HIV/AIDS'
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so bro.. applying ? if umw failed den maybe will decide this..
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wait for UMW-OG, then only decide nod.gif
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You use condom more than one reason la not just for HIV prevention lol  tongue.gif
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You use condom more than one reason la not just for HIV prevention lol  tongue.gif
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Those who cannot control thier bladder and wet thier bed while sleeping can use condom instead of adult pampers - less bulky n cheaper too n also can re-use, agree ? I dunno as I don't wet the bed...but maybe those who did can give thier opinion on condom can use or not. If yes, then tell that to Karex and maybe they will give U a lifetime supply of condoms for thinking of a brand new useage of thier product - sales will increase 10% cos if this additional useage of condoms.

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Those who cannot control thier bladder and wet thier bed while sleeping can use condom instead of adult pampers - less bulky n cheaper too n also can re-use, agree ? I dunno as I don't wet the bed...but maybe those who did can give thier opinion on condom can use or not. If yes, then tell that to Karex and maybe they will give U a lifetime supply of condoms for thinking of a brand new useage of thier product - sales will increase 10% cos if this additional useage of condoms.
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No way, my monster load always spilled out, if you know what im mean brows.gif
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Im not a condom lover, if u know what im mean  brows.gif
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Did any IB give recommendation on dis IPO?
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Summary
IPO Offer Price: RM1.85
EPS: 11 sen
PE: 16.8

Listing Details
Purpose: To raise funds to build new plant
The use of funds allocated:
R & D - 5.3%
CAPEX - 55.7%
Operating costs - 18.3%
Repayment of bank loans - 13.3%
Listing fees - 7.4%

Future plans:
- To increase production
- Enable automated production systems
- Continuing to develop new products
- Continued expansion OBM (Original Brand Manufacturer) market

Risk factor:
Raw material prices (latex), currency exchange rate (USD), dependent on the major supplier, dependent on foreign labor, the lack of long-term contracts

Other important information:
- No dividend policy.
- The company has made ​​USD Hedged (not mistaken it was USD 18.9 million)
- The company's biggest supplier is Revertex (25.3%) and Getahindus (17.5%).
- 60.5% of the employees are foreign workers, mainly from Myammar, Nepal, Vietnam.
- The company's current production capacity is 2.42 billion, the current market demand is 24.5billion
- The company have 60.8% market share of total Condom exports
- 59.7% of the company revenue is derived from OEM. The company's OEM customers include Lifestyle brand, Durex brand, Trustex brands and One brand. Another 36.1% of revenue comes from NGO's and government agencies. Only 4.2% from its own brand.
- Total Condom Export to Asia (36.8%), followed by Africa (30.8%), the America (18.2%) and Europe (14.2%).

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Those who cannot control thier bladder and wet thier bed while sleeping can use condom instead of adult pampers - less bulky n cheaper too n also can re-use, agree ? I dunno as I don't wet the bed...but maybe those who did can give thier opinion on condom can use or not. If yes, then tell that to Karex and maybe they will give U a lifetime supply of condoms for thinking of a brand new useage of thier product - sales will increase 10% cos if this additional useage of condoms.
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ur lil bro suffocate to death doh.gif
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any one know how they the derive "the current market demand is 24.5billion"
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[change rate (USD), dependent on the major supplier, dependent on foreign labor, the lack of long-term contracts

Other important information:
- No dividend policy
hmm.gif hmm.gif hmm.gif
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If i kena tis ipo n make good profit during first day opening, i wil wear karex brand even when i masturbate!!! Ha ha ha... To fully suport karex
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If i kena tis ipo n make good profit during first day opening, i wil wear karex brand even when i masturbate!!! Ha ha ha... To fully suport karex
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Den u can write opinion here whether safe or not brows.gif
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If i kena tis ipo n make good profit during first day opening, i wil wear karex brand even when i masturbate!!! Ha ha ha... To fully suport karex
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Sure or not?
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any one know how they the derive  "the current market demand is 24.5billion"
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Sure or not?
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Sure la... More hygience ma... No more pancut here n there
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when do we will know whether the ipo v apply kena o not? anyone can share more info about this counter?
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when do we will know whether the ipo v apply kena o not? anyone can share more info about this counter?
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Opening of application 11/10/2013
Closing of application 23/10/2013
Balloting of applications 25/10/2013
Allotment of IPO shares to successful applicants 04/11/2013
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If i kena tis ipo n make good profit during first day opening, i wil wear karex brand even when i masturbate!!! Ha ha ha... To fully suport karex
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what a good idea lol !
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Guys..anyone have a softcopy for karex IPO prospectus?
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Nvermind..got it already. Forgot can get from Bursa website lol
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QUOTE(ckinsg @ Oct 15 2013, 09:33 AM)
Sure la... More hygience ma... No more pancut here n there
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If your ejaculation is too forceful, tissue paper also can break. Fapping with condom FTW thumbup.gif
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Here is d link
http://www.bursamalaysia.com/market/listed...cements/1432281
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that's y hv to use karex brand ma flex.gif
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Sure la... More hygience ma... No more pancut here n there
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U should join the fire brigade, hydrant low pressure, use your own to pancut the fire, haha !

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Goh Miah Kiat - CEO of Karex is now on BFM89.9 to talk about the company and the IPO. If you miss this interview, podcast available at www.bfm.my
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Opening of application 11/10/2013
Closing of application 23/10/2013
Balloting of applications 25/10/2013
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this one not for me... non-shariah.

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A good stock to own, world's largest and with the trends of condom being mooted as a safe-sex initiative, why not.
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A good stock to own, world's largest and with the trends of condom being mooted as a safe-sex initiative, why not.
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you applying? hmm.gif
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I will apply
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Is the price too expensive? What is the PE TTM?
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i seldom heard the brand of karex. I thought Durex is world renown and biggest? Anyone use karex brand before? whats ur rating? this will affect the ipo analysis.
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They supply to Durex too.

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Ok, not a yield play, 2% DY at best doh.gif
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you apply karex IPO???
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Seeing the Maybank report...this will be a zero divvy stock for 1-2 years, later on 1-2% at best. Not my cuppa
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Nah, I never apply IPO geh

Seeing the Maybank report...this will be a zero divvy stock for 1-2 years, later on 1-2% at best. Not my cuppa
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but you are dom dom user.... i buy this dom dom IPO.
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Ppl call me "Mr Carlsberg" also lor, but I've dumped my CARLSBG tongue.gif
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But it's a purely growth stock, not my cuppa

Ppl call me "Mr Carlsberg" also lor, but I've dumped my CARLSBG tongue.gif
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doh.gif You selling IN LOSS..i remember you bought arnd rm14.xx...need patient..


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doh.gif You selling IN LOSS..i remember you bought arnd rm14.xx...need patient..
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Moved the money to Tiger Bank, immediately made paper profit, better dividend yield some more
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Moved the money to Tiger Bank, immediately made paper profit, better dividend yield some more
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can share what the cost your carlsberg buying and selling and buying date and selling date.

Want to draw triangle graph when i free time at home.
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can share what the cost your carlsberg buying and selling and buying date and selling date.

Want to draw triangle graph when i free time at home.
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All that data at home. Remind me again tonight tongue.gif
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i seldom heard the brand of karex. I thought Durex is world renown and biggest? Anyone use karex brand before? whats ur rating? this will affect the ipo analysis.
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Maybank IB report for those cannot view the previous posting pdf file smile.gif


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Maybank IB report for those cannot view the previous posting pdf file  smile.gif
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IPO: JF Apex has FV of RM2.07 for Karex

JF Apex Securities Bhd has a fair value (FV) of RM2.07 for condom manufacturer Karex Bhd shares. This compares to Karex's indicative initial public offering's (IPO) share price of RM1.85 in light of its upcoming listing on Bursa Malaysia.&nbsp;

In a note today, JF Apex analyst Soong Wei Siang said the FV for Karex is derived by pegging a 15-time price-earnings ratio to the manufacturer's FY14F earnings per share of 13.8 sen. Soong said the valuation is a 10% discount to Top Glove Corp Bhd's 16.5 times.

"In our view, Karex shares similarity with Top Glove as both are the largest players in the rubber-related healthcare products in Malaysia by having the class-leading production capacity.

"However, we reckon that the lower valuation is justified in view of the relatively lower market capitalisation of Karex, and the Group has not fixed any dividend policy to reward its shareholders as compared to the 50% dividend payout ratio Top Glove is currently implementing," Soong said.

Karex has an annual production capacity of three billion pieces of condoms from its four plants in Malaysia and Thailand. This makes Karex the largest condom manufacturer in the world.

Karex's IPO involves the sale of 67.5 million shares in the firm. The exercise comprises a public issue of 40.5 million new shares, and an offer for sale of 27 million existing units.

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Now v have 2 TP:
Maybank - 2.16
JF Apex - 2.07
Average - 2.11
Upside - 0.26 or 14%
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Oct 21 2013, 05:22 PM)
Now v have 2 TP:
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JF Apex - 2.07
Average - 2.11
Upside - 0.26 or 14%
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got IB research paper can share at here.
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U can refer earlier post on research paper from Maybank
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i see/have MAYBANK from earlier post..but didnt found other.

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Now v have 2 TP:
Maybank - 2.16
JF Apex - 2.07
Average - 2.11
Upside - 0.26 or 14%
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WAh ! Not bad ! 2 more days to go B4 deadline.

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only got news report from the edge. Actual report I can't find it  nod.gif
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oic..i thought IB got research paper rclxub.gif ..

can you share the link the edge

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http://www.theedgemalaysia.com/business-ne...for-karex-.html
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WAh ! Not bad ! 2 more days to go B4 deadline.
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Still thinking whether to apply Caring or Karex or split the fund for both.. rclxub.gif


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dunno umw refund will be on time or not  flex.gif
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Still thinking whether to apply Caring or Karex or split the fund for both..  rclxub.gif
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Still thinking whether to apply Caring or Karex or split the fund for both..  rclxub.gif
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Go apply Karex as Caring is 1 week later and maybe if unsuccessful, the funds can come back in time to apply Caring.

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Go apply Karex as Caring is 1 week later and maybe if unsuccessful, the funds can come back in time to apply Caring.
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Umw oil n gas failed... Here i cum karex!!!!
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Umw oil n gas failed... Here i cum karex!!!!
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Go apply Karex as Caring is 1 week later and maybe if unsuccessful, the funds can come back in time to apply Caring.
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If Karex successful, can't apply Caring wo
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JF Apex's FV is based on 15x PE FY14F, and the analyst compares Karex to Top Glove.
Is he comparing apple to orange rclxub.gif
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U will use entire proceeds from UMW (50k shares x 2.80) to apply Karex?
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JF Apex's FV is based on 15x PE FY14F, and the analyst compares Karex to Top Glove.
Is he comparing apple to orange  rclxub.gif
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Both use rubber latex to produce final products
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U will use entire proceeds from UMW (50k shares x 2.80) to apply Karex?
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If Karex successful, can't apply Caring wo
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woah have to apply this

if economic downtown, ppl will wear this

if good economy, more ppl got mood to sexing
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sexing or not - ppl will still sexing and since ppl are getting better educated - of cos buy n wear?? no?

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Why so many new category IPO this few weeks,
Westports for ports.
Caring for pharmacy
and this for condom maker?
This looks interesting.
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Why so many new category IPO this few weeks,
Westports for ports.
Caring for pharmacy
and this for condom maker?
This looks interesting.
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Condoms are always interesting my friend. Always. And I believe stock players - guys mainly will buy.
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JF Apex's FV is based on 15x PE FY14F, and the analyst compares Karex to Top Glove.
Is he comparing apple to orange  rclxub.gif
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It's the best he could do as both r manufacturing latex-based products. I think we do not have another condom-maker in Bursa.

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JF Apex's FV is based on 15x PE FY14F, and the analyst compares Karex to Top Glove.
Is he comparing apple to orange  rclxub.gif
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maybe both are using rubber as material and both are biggest in the world rclxms.gif
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Reminder

Opening of application 11/10/2013
Closing of application 23/10/2013
Balloting of applications 25/10/2013
Allotment of IPO shares to successful applicants 04/11/2013
Tentative listing date 06/11/2013

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Applied 20,000 units
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maybe both are using rubber as material and both are biggest in the world  rclxms.gif
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haven't u heard of the joke?

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Imagine on IPO day, headline reads.
"Cure for HIV/AIDS found".
That would be funny rclxms.gif
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Imagine on IPO day, headline reads.
"Cure for HIV/AIDS found".
That would be funny  rclxms.gif
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Worldwide rape would occur and even so, one still needs to practise safe sex and to avoid pregnancy risks.
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Worldwide rape would occur and even so, one still needs to practise safe sex and to avoid pregnancy risks.
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But condom sales would drop significantly.
One of the main reasons people buy condom is to avoid getting HIV/AIDS.
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TA Securities give TP2.40 wo... Anyone has d report?
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QUOTE(Mr Kong @ Oct 22 2013, 09:58 AM)
But condom sales would drop significantly.
One of the main reasons people buy condom is to avoid getting HIV/AIDS.
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Not necessary.
Today cancer can be cured if diagnosed at early stage. But who wants to undergo chemotherapy?



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just wanna share HwangDBS initiating coverage report on Karex
FV: RM2.35



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good good....

ta 2.40
hwang 2.35

Better upside potential than westport n umwog!!!
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wa... all researcher give so good expectation...

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condom maker.. sure buy la... unless u dun like condom, u better hold your gun properly
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Not necessary.
Today cancer can be cured if diagnosed at early stage. But who wants to undergo chemotherapy?
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HIV and cancer are two different thing, can't relate it to chemotherapy. So.. YES, condom is