Hi,
Kinda interested in singing (Don't laugh, my bandmate wants to join too ) and wondering if there're singing lessons offered in PJ/KL area??? If so, what are my options and how much is the fees? Are they really worth it or am I better off training by myself?


Thx & cheers.

PS: Couldn't find the old singing topic, so pls dun whackerize this.

plz lar... led zep singing? pity kl lar .. rain for whole month =P jkjk

edit - train urself not so good idea... vocal training is good.. get a good teacher and u'll learn so much more than training urself

This post has been edited by XCcude: Mar 27 2006, 09:45 PM

Haha it has been raining heavily during evenings lately. If I take lessons, I scared tsunami oni.

Jk jk... seriously interested in lessonslar, anybody here taken vocal training before?

I'll ask my band's vocalist later. He took vocal lessons for some time alrdy

Well, if u want to go the James Hetfield way, get a vocal warmup tape. He used that before every show or jam to warmup his vocal. Saw it in Some Kind of Monster.

Buy Vocal Coach-Complete Breathing , Vocal Coach-Complete Vocal Warm-up n also Vocal Coach - Expanding ur Range... Dalam bentuk cakera padat... Can find them from eBay ... It really works... Not so expensive... Or u can log on to www.hazami.com.my ... He's a popular singer and also a vocal trainer... He's Ning Baizura's n Nikki MI's vocal trainer ... But kinda expensive

So y u wana look for singing lesson? Expand ur range?? Learning to make great vibrato?? Whistle tone?? Improving ur falsetto?? Wanna learn proper usage of melisma?? Or mayb vocal belting o.0? AF4 ?

PS: I can do whistle tone , reached B6 Hey , Im a man

This post has been edited by yupihas: Mar 27 2006, 11:08 PM

Really? Thanks a lot, let me know when you get an answer.

Hah thanks for posting, how much are those books roughly?

Err.... can speak in simple English? lol... I just wanna learn how to get the best out of my voice, maybe not so much of expanding the range, but more focused on stuff like vibrato and emotion (?). Maybe try to sing in falsetto too? lol... I'm not too sure, all I know now is that I can't sing nuts lol.

I actually went for vocal training when I was like, 9......
It used to be in SS2 area called "The Singing Shop"......

I think they now relocated to Desa Hartamas.....

Haha awwww.... cute little Blacktrix taking vocal lessons lol.

Do you remember what they taught you? Hmmm Desa Hartamas, I'ill check it out soon, thx.

shuddup..... I was 9.....

I can only remember just singing along to songs (no...... I won't say what I sang) and just practised from there......

And now I'm all EMO like and sound like Cookie Monster.......

led_zep_freak sing ? <runs outside and laugh> HAHAhahahAHAHAHahahahhhhh aaaah

i have a church member who gives Vocal Training. She's got some Masters in some music field and she's training my church 40 member choir team.

I can ask her if you want ....

But again, you sing ?

Damn.... is it a bad thing? lol... I do sing occasionally in bands but I do know that I can't sing lol. If I could, I wouldn't be posting this anyway.
My bandmate came up with the idea of going for lessons togetherlar. I mean, I really wanna have a go at it, y'know...after being impressed by the harmonies heard in Eagles & Queen albums.

I'm more interested in solo singing actually as I choral & solo singing are pretty different, I think. Not sure if she gives training for n00bs like me tho, but if you could ask, it would be great thanks.

i have a friend who teaches singing.

freelances here and there.

but if you wanna learn how to growl death metal style, i can

Yeah, how much does he/she charge per lesson? Does he/she teaches in groups? Thanks...

Death metal as in In Flames-type? Will it work for blues rock music?

i'll get the number by tommorow.

eh blues and growling, why not

my growling is kinda like later testament work, like demonic refusal etc.

led_zep, if you're all gona do it in a group can i join? yes yes, go ahead and laugh at me you all. i really cant sing for sh|t. if sing growl lamb of god style can lah....

Haha... sure no problem, I have to ask around first tho. Do you know anyone who gives lessons? After all you know a lot of musicians here.

i wanna work on my high pitch and vibratos if i can get a chance to learn singing

guys I'm a singer, There's nothing wrong to have the desire to learn how to sing properly actually. Learning is good. To me actually if u wanna sing damn nice, vocal lessons wont really make u like after taking lessons u can sing like backstreet boys, westlife, jay chou, busted, Tom delonge (vocalist of blink 182), jesse mccartney or james blunt, if u want these type of singing u will need to be borned with it. So just to let u know that going to a vocal class doesnt mean that after u get out guarantee you will be able to sing damn nice, but most likely your singing will improve. Probably will end up able to sing like Mark Hoppus. His voice is like the common singing voice. He can sing but in low tone. Most of the time I find that guys that has a bit of a girlish voice can sing. example of artists with girlish voices are i think i already listed some of them above, but most obvious is Tom delonge and jesse mccartney. So if you have what they call in Choir, a 'Tenor's' voice, then more higher chance that you will be able to be a lot better in singing after taking lessons. They will teach you breathing control and stuff there.

Here's a list of where you can take vocal lessons. I only know these places that are the most cheap (lol). Vocal classes are expensive man.

at Ikano Power Centre - Euphony Musical Centre (RM180 like that per month)

at Yamaha at 1 Utama - (RM100-120 like that if i remember correctly, more focus on oldies)

got another place in Taman Tun called Learn-to-sing..that one is like RM200-300 per month LOL!. (I called them)

Sorry guys but I never ask how long per class for the payment listed above.

A musician that can sing while playing his instruments either for lead or backup singing is a bonus and I think is more respected than someone who can just play the instrument because almost anybody can pick up a guitar and learn how to play it man, but can you pick up a guitar, play and sing along with it? not that hard if you already know the technique. So lets learn-to-sing! lol

This post has been edited by Xero: Mar 30 2006, 11:39 PM

Thanks a lot man, I'm really interested in singing and want to learn how to make full use of my voice. I don't expect to sound like BB King or James Blunt in a few months time. Of course, one can dream.

Thanks a lot man, that's a very informative post. How long have you been taking lessons anyway?

i know this singer for this band(forgot whats his band's name) that made it to asian beat finals and he said he'll meet up with me just to show me the techniques but i didnt ask if he could give serious lessons. i've been (and will be) very busy for my current tests and coming finals so i cant meet him.

me? taking lessons? I don't . My friend also ask me before did i took singing class after he hear me sing. I'm borned with it one .But I do practice at home since I was in primary school, so I keep improving, I just practice by listening to the song and try to vibrate or whatever that I find cool or new inside the fella's song. At first you must try to imitate the fella at least and do what he does, then after you are u think u are good enough, then only you can go with your own style and find your own voice.

But I did feel at one time that I wanna improve my singing even more so thats why i went asking here and there and came up with those places i listed above, but when they tell me the price of their class...I start to move out of the shop or wanna say bye bye to the fella i called edi lol.

And of course, one can dream, a lot of the successful people we know in today's world were dreamers, so dont let anyone who gets in your way stops you from achieving it. If you have the drive, no one can stop you.




This post has been edited by Xero: Mar 30 2006, 10:55 PM

One word of advise! Heavy metal is not good to be used to train for singing! lol...because it is actually more to like a common voice that anybody can do so it doesn't really involve much skill in singing. Though I know there are lot of Metal fans here but if you really wanna learn how to sing you gotta learn from either Pop or R&B genre. because these genres use a lot of singing skills. And what I mean by pop is not like Christina Aguilera or Britney spears or Mariah Carey or Whitney Houston type of pop...those are too high standard singing already.

What you can start with is genres like Pop Rock or Pop Punk. these are easier and something that I think you might be able to start with, try to listen to Mark hoppus (bassist of blink 182 just in case u didnt know) sing, and try to sing like him, its quite easy ,then only you move up. Then maybe after that you can go to higher standard one like Backstreet boys, Westlife, James Blunt or those R&B stuff but I dont guarantee everyone who cannot sing before this can go there. Only guys with at least a bit girlish type of voice can. If you're lucky, during the process of learning, you might find that you have that girlish type of voice inside of you that you never knew you had because you never let it go out. I think some people do have this type of voice just that some are afraid of letting out their whole voice or singing skill either because of shyness, low confident or afraid of rejection by people who hear.

But if you dont have the girly type of voice it doesnt mean that you can't sing. You can, but probably in a lower tone. To me actually 'sing' is more based on your breathing techniques and how to control your voice.

Hah icic... when you get the chance, let me know if he gives lessons. I think I'ill call the number everdying gave, otherwise I guess have to get lessons from the shops listed by Xero.

I'm not a heavy metal fan, more of a blues/classic rock fan so I'm more interested in soul/blues style of singing, more than pop/r&b. Anyway great tips, sounds like you're a pretty seasoned singer.
I find a problem to actually sing the songs out loud. When I do it soft, I find that I can hit the notes right, but when with an instrument, everything just go bad, wrong notes etc...
Oh well, thanks for the tips.

i understand what you're saying...

but starting with mark hoppus then going to 'higher' standards like backstreet boys, westlife!!!!!???

thats not encouraging at all.

heavy metal not good for training? what about bands like nightwish? haha. i think u meant growling/screaming.

Well no matter how bad their music is, you can't deny that they can harmonize and sing pretty well. Hey, Mark Hoppus isn't exactly a singer, but he does his stuff well.


Woooo... Nightwish and Within Temptation.

Yes, exactly what I'm saying (about mark hoppus). Actually their music isn't bad, it's just that different people different taste. To pop genre lovers, they will say loud music like emo punk or heavy metal are bad music while to heavy metal lovers they might say the other way, so you get what i mean, its just how the world goes, different people different taste, just that. Music doesnt just involve either pop only or heavy metal only if you look at it on the bright side and look at it from the bigger picture.

Sorry guys, I'm not really a fan of heavy metal so I dont know Nightwish, I only know those very popular heavy metal bands like Metallica and etc.. but yea what I meant was like growling and screaming cuz most heavy metal I hear b4 are like that.

Most heavy metal are not good for training to sharpen your 'singing' skills but good to sharpen your instrument skills. I also use some of them to practice for guitar.

The best to start off with is with Pop Rock or Pop Punk (from my point of view) then after long time only you move up to higher standard(if can la). But singing like those Pop Rock and Pop Punk artists also good enough already. They are not the best but they are quite good edi. No need to become damn good like Mariah Carey lol...damn good singing also still the song that matters a lot too. I dont really recommend practising with My Chemical Romance's Gerard Way's singing if Pop-Punk cuz that fella actually can sing quite well also (if minus the screaming lol), so he is a bit high standard like same level as tom delonge type of voice, not mark hoppus.

As for Soul and Blues, I really very seldom listen to that led_zep_freak cuz my fav genre in music is Pop, Pop Rock and Pop Punk. But I do think that I listen to few of them before and I think their singing is actually something similar to Pop and R&B isn't it? Maybe you can recommend me some of the blues/soul songs that you like so that I can check them out and see if its suitable for practising singing or not .

I think if you like soul and blues you should go to the Yamaha at 1utama singing class one because I think oldies might relate to some blues and soul (I THINK. correct me if I'm wrong. and its the most cheapest class anyway lol). Well anything also, you can always ask the teacher to teach you what type of songs you would like to learn (since your paying the fella anyway ).

Oh btw, for sure if you sing out loud got problem one. A lot of people are like this also, not just you, sing softly is of course easier, so you should start softly first, then only slowly go loud. But wanna practice loud actually you need a suitable place also, I also dont practice loud at home if my parents are around cuz it attracts people and that ruins your practising privacy lol. I only practice loud if I'm alone at home, or when got friend come, at friend's place or outside.

As for singing with instruments, It just takes time and practice thats all. you just need to hit the right key on the instruments that suits the vocals. You can recognize what key is correct by listening to the song and mark the part where they say this and that...example: "hello hello, I'm here all alone feeling slow" <-- at "hello hello" maybe the artists is playing the C chord on guitar, then he changes to G at "I'm here all alone feeling slow", so all you have to do is actually mark the words and what chord or riff changes because in singing also there is C, G, A, D notes and other notes similar to the ones you play on guitar,piano,keyboard so you just need to match them both. and it takes time and practice thats all. As for drums you just need to listen which beat goes with what they say. Anyone can do it. But if you know how to sing properly, its of course a lot better. Any song also can, if you are damn good you wanna play pop guitar solo or kirk hammet guitar solo while singing also can LOL. it just takes time and practice for this one.

This post has been edited by Xero: Mar 30 2006, 11:51 PM

For blues you could try BB King (He's the king of the blues after all), Stevie Ray Vaughan, Eric Clapton or maybe even Muddy Waters and Robert Johnson.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAT2A-BHCBs...b%20king%20live
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hrE9U3LyIk...b%20king%20live
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPnXtfSY3LQ...h=texas%20flood
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GSpbuFSr2o&search=srv

For soul perhaps Stevie Wonder or Ray Charles? Or even the teen Joss Stone & Alicia Keys?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Zus0m6VIXY...ch=joss%20stone

This post has been edited by led_zep_freak: Apr 2 2006, 12:06 PM

lol I already watch some of the videos. I think should be no problem. Pop is totally require more singing skills than soul/blues. I hear the soul/blues people sing its as if they are talking and singing. something like that. If you learn Pop vocals definitely can sing soul/blues. Just that you need to adjust to the soul/blues tune after u know how to sing pop already.

This post has been edited by Xero: Apr 4 2006, 12:33 AM

so ledzep, u called my friend yet to ask?

Nope, not yet... pretty busy for the past few days, will call her later this week.

who is that? Everdying knows somebody from the guitar shop that teaches vocals class?

well, sort of guitar shop.
teaches freelance at mahagony as well as some other school and also at home.
dunno how many students

how much does it cost

no idea.
ask ledzep when he finally decides to call

Haha sorrylar, busy with rehearsals and exams hah, hard to make arrangements now. Will call one day, don't worry heh.

agreed ... actually you don't really have to learn singing. Just simply ask from friends.

When you go for class, you only learn what is right but never learn what is wrong.

You can actually gain your singing skill by experience like what i does.

2 years ago i sing like sh*t.

Today, i can sing one night in beijing (original key) in front of audiences without any mistake.

This post has been edited by zivkong: Mar 20 2007, 09:07 AM

True.
I took singing lessons when I was like, 9.
Now I just do cookie monster vocals over metal songs. Problem solved.

something i dont understand ... and maybe it's because i'm not in any band...

why so many vocalist like metal songs???

just a question...

On singing home course, please have a look at Jaime Vanderra's Raise Your Voice ( http://www.thevoiceconnection.com ). Ive bought both Jaime's Raise Your Voice & Ultimate Breathing. I recommend highly to any budding singers (any music genre).

I found Jaime vendera raise your voice book at amazon for $30 us... apparently its very good based on the reviews.. can order at mph nad borders 2.... any 1 heard of it?

I bought directly from Jaime's website the downloadable version ie the pdf version (and then I print it out on a laser printer and bind to make it a book).

RYV is easy reading, easy and clear explanation, even for a novice (but of course few basics such as lip bubbling etc need to know). Plus you'll get exercises (including warmup exercises) designed to strengthen your voice, expand your range, develop vibrato, work to eliminate vocal breaks, developing grit, growl (for those metal screams etc ) etc. Even whistling tone. After purchasing, you'll be able to access the members section where there's audio files (for vocal exercises, interviews) and video files (see how Jaime conduct his vocal training session with some of his students).

Raise Your Voice 2 is in the making. Not sure when RYV2 will be available.

This post has been edited by Banzai_san: Mar 20 2007, 03:59 PM

Guys, can I join too? I'm only 17 though... but I got interested in singing too~~ haha~~

This post has been edited by blacktrix: Mar 21 2007, 10:27 PM

it shows ur determination to learn singing. =p

can learn vocal @ bentley's music but dunno how much..anyone from ther? dunno good or not..

There is a shop in Amcorp Mall PJ Called "The Singing Shop"

go and check it out

Hopefully u have some singing talent in urself firstly...e.g. even if william hung get singing lessons, he wont go far.

will it really .. i mean REALLY improve voice power and increase range ?? cos im 16 and rm120 is quite alot of money for a book

The book explains, shows and guides you to the proper/healthy way (technically) how you can improve your vocal. But Jaime Vendera is no miracle worker ie dont expect that simply buying and reading the book one will automagically attain a super duper voice... the student need to work his/her ars* off and do the vocal exercises. If you are serious in wanting to improve you voice, I would say GET THE Raise Your Voice book by Jaime Vendera

Btw, the downloadable version is only USD19.95 (~RM70/-)

How big your vocal range do you want? Well Jaime himself has 6 octaves plus the vocal power to smash glass (see Myth Buster). Even japanese TV have tested Jaime ability to smash glasses with his voice alone (ie without amplification)
(link to download the Japanese TV interview with Jaime --> http://www.thevoiceconnection.com/japviduncompressed.wmv )
(link to Jaime's message board discussing vocal range --> http://pub11.bravenet.com/forum/879185519/show/678139 )

yea... i saw it on tv (mythbuster) really cool... i understand tht i have to practice hell lot ...

i have one and a half octave now ( from mid C )... want to get atleast 2 octaves and id be satisfied

yap, there's nothing weird to get a vocal lessons
im planning to go US solely to develop a better voice.. (for personal interest)

Mika Nakashima's fan ya

Hmm if not mistaken long long time ago ( 3-4 years ago) my friend and I were quite interested in learning vocal. IIRC he told me the fee should be around 150? dunno why in the end we din take it. No time or money problem lol.

Btw my mom also joined those aunty-aunties vocal class before xD

Join choir helps also i think in learning the basic way of warmup...etc

hmm, may i know anyone in LYN who currently or had vocal lessons before? mind to share ?

yeah...im interested in singing also...but dunno my voice stil gt hope or not...looking for place around cheras leisure mall n taman connaught...guitar store there alot of ppl...scared embarrasing myself...T.T

I've got vocal lessons before. erm but mostly it will depend much on yourself when it comes to learn vocals ..

everyone can sing, you just have to master on how to control your voice .. some are born to sing .. some are not born to sing .. but with determination they can .. everyone can sing ...

erm,,,,,i called the HALO FOREST singing center ,,,, the fees is about RM220 for 4 lessons a month ..(each lessons abt 1 and a half hour)....this is only for beginner level which comprise of 36 lessons) which after calculating ,,,its abt RM2000 just for the beginner level......(there are 2 more level to go)..........anyone knws are there any other academy that offer cheaper price...?

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Added on October 31, 2009, 2:07 amDo u knw the price for vocal lesson in Guitar Store ? If yes ,pls let me knw....tq

This post has been edited by undecidedboy: Oct 31 2009, 02:08 AM

Hai, I got gred 5 in vocal. I would like to know you interested in popular or classical song...?

Hi, Zep Freak, try the Singing Shop. They have various centers in Kuala Lumpur. They charged RM260 a month for 4 lessions and a registration fee of RM30. I went there to inquire and found that they have no centers in Johor Bahru, so cannot attend laaa...

You can always train by yourself, but it is faster to learn through a "guru". This is what I found, when trying to learn computer programming on my own. But don't just depend on your guru. Even if you have a "guru", act like you are training by yourself and whatever the guru teaches is something extra. That way, you don't become overly dependent on your guru and forget that you also have the capacity to learn, based on your own efforts.

http://www.thesingingshop.com.my/about-us/

This post has been edited by ekompute: Aug 6 2014, 06:50 PM

If anyone's still interested, I've taken singing lessons for a few years with some exams and I'm teaching vocal/singing now too --just drop me a PM if you wanna learn and we can see how it goes

hey im intersted . im looking for voice training. what type of vocal teaching you do ?

I teach pop vocal

urs mainly for singing ? got public speaking ?

Yeah, mainly singing. I don't train public speaking --could we carry this in PM btw?

oh then its ok. im lookign for public speaking

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