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 Alam Impian Nukilan, Anyone staying at Nukilan?

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Chris Chew
post Feb 2 2013, 03:02 AM

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QUOTE(Williamckh64 @ Feb 1 2013, 09:19 PM)
Hi I got a unit at nukilan.. Just want to check hows the maintenance there going on? Are u the owner there as well? I know the new phase launching at 680k onwards.. Size 22x80.. Quite a good choice rather than going for rimbayu by ijm... Haha...
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Mind to share how much u bought Nukilan previously?

And, I&P got new phase coming at 22x80 launching from 680k onwards? What phase name??

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post Feb 2 2013, 02:13 PM

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QUOTE(jucl @ Feb 2 2013, 11:57 AM)
Its Nukilan 3 Chris Bro. 120 unit up for grab...
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Ohh really? Thanks a lot jucl bro.

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post Feb 2 2013, 06:04 PM

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QUOTE(Williamckh64 @ Feb 2 2013, 05:01 PM)
I bought subsale unit.. Not direct from developer.. I bought 24x80 at 700k.. Now 22x80 selling 680k.. Faster go grab... Haha...
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Ic, thanks bro.

Like you said, you bought subsales of 24 x 80 at RM 700k, so this new Nukiran 3 22 x 80 starting RM 680k, not bad lahh actually since directly from I&P but your unit seems become a grab due to 24 x 80 and only difference by RM 20k compare to new Nukiran 3.

I told by some agents, Nukiran 2 24 x 80 now asking RM 730-750k.




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post Feb 3 2013, 02:26 AM

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QUOTE(Williamckh64 @ Feb 2 2013, 06:09 PM)
Haha.. I was told by my lawyer that my unit previous made 250k from me.. Haha... I am also helping my friends to sell off their units at karya and arca.. They are looking at 800-850k... Alam impian price will go up.. I did the valuation calculation.. We break down and calculate alam impian still damn cheap compare with setia alam or Kota kemuning.. Alan impian now still in pioneer stage..
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Hahaha, really? It was a real great profit.

Karya and Arca for RM 800-850k, what size?

I see Arca 24 x 80 is selling around RM 750k and Karya 24 x80 is asking around RM 800k.

Quite impress with both quality, especially Karya but quite not impress with the rooftop. Arca also looks not bad too. The feeling of I&P's Alam Impian really very similar designs of the I&P's Bandar Kinrara latest phases.




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post Feb 3 2013, 03:05 AM

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QUOTE(AMINT @ Feb 3 2013, 02:51 AM)
So Chris, r u buying? smile.gif
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Not a good timing for me now bcz I just wanted a decent landed for future own stay, not now cz wife prefer condo that's why I sold my Spira.

Tight budget left if only 70% loan, also dunno whether can get loan or not.

2011-12 too active, this year gotta slowly watching, and see whether got good deal ( cheaper range ) for investment. I still never rule back buying AI again because I rate this very well and I still can catch the pricing here compare to others such as Bdr Kinrara latest series or Bukit Jalil, for sure unable to afford in next 3-5 years.
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post Feb 5 2013, 12:33 AM

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QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ Feb 5 2013, 12:01 AM)
i have seen, why cant they creative a little?
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Yalor, the facade really so-so only. But really the type of I&P, see dy can know this is I&P product. Sigh.

TYPE A • (Intermediate Units)
Land Area: 1,750 - 1,760 sq. ft.
Built-up Area: 2,500 sq. ft.
Selling Price: RM688,888 - RM698,888
TYPE B • (Corner Units)
Land Area: 3,190 - 5,300 sq. ft.
Built-up Area: 2,810 sq. ft.
Selling Price: RM818,888 - RM870,888
TYPE C • (End Units)
Land Area: 2,130 - 2,720 sq. ft.
Built-up Area: 2,470 sq. ft.
Selling Price: RM713,888 - RM743,888
TYPE D • (Corner Units)
Land Area: 3,950 - 5,150 sq. ft.
Built-up Area: 3,440 sq. ft.
Selling Price: RM994,888 - RM1,011,888

Btw, seems the End Lot ( Type C ) is only RM 713,88 to RM 743,888 ( which is only RM 30k extra ) but for an extra land of 380 sf feet to 960 sf feet.

380 sf feet extra in end lot is very small, just extra 5 feet which can't do much things except minor entension but for a price of RM 30k to add on a bit privacy is worthy.

The max land size of 2,720 sq feet, assume extra 10 feet land ( 32 x 80 ), seems a great buy at RM 743,888, is that odd land?

Anyone went and see the Type B corner units at RM 820-870k for size of 3,190 to 5,300 ( so big, must be something weird odd land )


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post Feb 5 2013, 09:51 AM

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QUOTE(jucl @ Feb 5 2013, 09:19 AM)
Chris Bro, I must say the end lot really value for money. Though extra land 380 sf seems small, if you consider the asking price of additional 30K, this works back to only RM 78 psf . Cheap right...I  Not to forget privacy, no one beside you, do anything also people cannot see you...hahaha

Dont understand why they price so low....
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Yeah jucl bro, I also wonder how come end lots only higher by mere RM 30,000 - RM 60,000, bcz normally for RM 700+k intermediate, an end lot normally sell ard additional RM 100k or plus.

Extra 380 sf seems only add less than 5' feet land, quite narrow space but end lot. Still value buy if the lot is not located badly.

I interested to see the add 10' feet land unit, which is lilttle spacious for usage, say small garden or coffee table. Though built up ard 2,470 sf which is 30 sf lesser than inter lot.

Must go n see the masterplan first to check out the end lots facing and view.


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post Feb 6 2013, 12:40 AM

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QUOTE(Williamckh64 @ Feb 5 2013, 11:25 PM)
Because for end lot the valuation will add 5% as premium. Usually the owner of end lot no matter how big is the land.. They will sell higher 100k compare with intermediate..
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Must check out the floor plan of the end lots.


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post Feb 8 2013, 02:07 AM

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QUOTE(AMINT @ Feb 7 2013, 11:09 PM)
huh?? not trying to be defensive la. just saying inp design all almost same. pentas, nukilan, etc. even kinrara and alam damai.
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Ya, agree.

That's I&P. It's so easy to recognize the houses they built. LOL.

That's why when I went to AI or Alam Damai, I feel like I am in BK of Shah Alam or BK of Cheras.

I agree that I&P should come out the design of each township for something new and creative, if not each phases. The design are not bad actually, much a conventional way of a modern Malay feel with little bit newer style. That's part of the reason why I went on to purchase Spira previously, a quite modern facade or rooftop by surprisingly, Naza TTDI who believes in Feng Shui as well as G&G.

However, I never rule out I&P products bcz it is not that outdated actually. The quality is important and the layout is spacious with good and big built up compare to other development.

I quite wish that one day, I&P could come out something different in terms of facade, esp rooftop ( maybe I prefer grey colour ) and porcelain tiles ( instead of timber flooring ) at bedrooms. It's unlikely to be happen in short time.



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post Feb 22 2013, 02:37 AM

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QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ Feb 21 2013, 12:42 PM)
Rimbayu launched their products at 600K++, suddenly i feel that Nukilan is a good and value buy
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Regardless pricing of Bdr Rimbayu, I think Nukilan is always been a good and fair buy.



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post Feb 22 2013, 09:23 AM

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QUOTE(nkhong @ Feb 22 2013, 08:26 AM)
Teng, i tot the theead is http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1805836/
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Haha. The one u found was suppose the earliest thread but someone create anothr thread recently.

Sometimes quite confusing.

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post Feb 22 2013, 04:09 PM

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QUOTE(AMINT @ Feb 22 2013, 03:55 PM)
When is the commercial gonna launch? Interested to buy ( i dont like the small row near canting).
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The I&P commercial planning is quite bad. They always plan for few rows or mini size commercial zone / area.



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post Feb 22 2013, 07:38 PM

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QUOTE(jucl @ Feb 22 2013, 04:40 PM)
Ur right also. Not only commercial they are not strong, high rise pun cannot pakai. So far only their landed strong.
If only they sell the commercial lot to SP setia, cannot imagine how far AI can go.. Build something Setia Mall at Alam Impian and call it Impian Mall!!
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Yalor, quite impress with wat they delivered n did for landed housing quality in Bdr Kinrara, Alam Damai and Alam Impian but definitely not commercial.

Like BK9, dunno why they built 11-12 units of 2 rows shop which cant create anything n most vacant. Same goes to most BK commercial area, residents rather go Puchong Jaya or Bdr Puteri.

In term of township planning, Alam Impian is much better than Bandar Kinrara. Though I dont like their idea of snake / curvy roads instead of more straight roads due to slowing down cars but it seems doesnt. The phases of BK housing are inproper arrangement n bad accessibility in such good location of next to KL or Bukit Jalil.
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post Feb 23 2013, 12:32 AM

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QUOTE(AMINT @ Feb 22 2013, 10:49 PM)
+1 commercial cannot be like that. Rows so sikit, it wont be that wong. The one behind canting is really wtf. 1 row with 5 or 6 units only. Hahaha. What the heck. Whose idea was that?
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Hahaha, true, I can't imagine why they keep repeat the same mistakes. How the 5-6 or 11-12 units show lots able to sustain their business while the area unable to draw more consumers?

I&P really I&P!! If they really build at least 5-6 rows or min 150 units shop lots, it would be more vibrant and could bring a different story.


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post Feb 23 2013, 01:03 AM

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QUOTE(AMINT @ Feb 23 2013, 12:58 AM)
Yup. U can also see this happening in Alam Damai. Shoplot so skit. Haiii why always like this la I&P
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Hahaha, I seen it almost everywhere in BK.

Ex. 2 short rows of BK 2 storey shops ( abt 11-12 units ) in front of The Zest or, next to the bungalows.

The mamak opened at the corner and facing hill, the small area never ever more than 10 cars. And, that mamak was soon to kena small rob by a gang just few days into business started.



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post Feb 23 2013, 01:08 AM

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QUOTE(jucl @ Feb 23 2013, 12:58 AM)
+1
Maybe some of our lyn forumer should sit in inp board or get them to engage one of u guys as a consultant...lol...
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Hahah, that's I&P, their concept of township planner. The township planning in terms of road, accessibility, phases location, marketing and etc, always the same ( aside of the facade and floor plan )

Being a leader of it's own and reputable name, every big developers had it own selling point and if I&P deliver a hospital, Impian Mall, few international schools, similar 2-3 storey shops at Alam Impian, people would thought this I&P follow SP Setia foot step and copy cat.

If they are going to build a 5-6 unit shops or 11-12 units just to maximized the small and less than 1 acres space, I rather them don't build at all.



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post Feb 23 2013, 02:16 AM

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QUOTE(jucl @ Feb 23 2013, 01:43 AM)
If this is proven and indeed a successful formula I see no reason why INP reluctant to copy. Afterall we r talking abt building a township not pocket development where one build row and row of houses and probably a few shop lots.

I really salute Sps and the magic they use to build their township. Ur not talking shop lots but corporate tower like Top Glove and convention center in Klang to be exact !!

I realize sime darby project is also suffering similar dillema where they r good in building row and row of houses but not a vibrant township.
This has to change and I'm sure inp not dump.

Nonetheless I hope AI will not suffer similar fate like kinrara. I notice they allocate quite substantial plot of land to build commercial. Of coz this only happen if if they build according to the masterplan. Finger cross. Otherwise everything will fall back to the same. AI become the 2nd kinrara in making.. Anyway kinrara not too bad also lah..hehe
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Yes, very much agree with that.

I also salute SPS for the time being to transform Setia Alam and Eco Park from a Klang outsider to a such lively township. Everything is there now and the upcoming launches would be more expensive and higher end. I could imagine what's next 10 years for Eco Glades and Eco Hills Semenyih, which could be better version.

Yes, it was proven, as long as time and faith being implemented and throw into it. SPS is success but I don't think Sime Darby is just yet at SPS level. USJ took a really long time to proven and Sime Darby made a mistake for fully develop USJ stretch to Putra Heights and left some unwanted piece in the whole USJ master plan, as final development of the luxurious version, USJ Heights. The USJ Taipan is almost a failure until the banks went in and turned it into very busy commercial area esp during day time until, dinner hours.

Township planning, SPS triumph and proven. Sime Darby, my comment for them would be they overbuilt the houses before commercial kicks in, therefore, it took close to 10 years to get matured. 10 years ago, nobody wanted to move into USJ due to jam and i.e, they moved to Subang Jaya's SS series due to luxury option of highways and less hectic compare to USJ. USJ Taipan only getting matured, if not mistaken during 1999-2000, exactly 10 years after the first USJ phase were built. However, I prefer the main roads ( straight and square before a traffic light ) by Sime compare to curve and snaky road compare to I&P. Unsure how the nwer part of Bdr Bukit Raja and Denai Alam doing, but DA is definitely their flagship township before Bukit Jelutong and a comparable with AI due to sizes, pricing and products were equalling each other. Putra Heights is still time waiting as their commercial, is too many vacancy.

Though it was a successful formula, it would be tough for a big company to follow the path of others and the management would be surely enough to have own strategy and marketing path for different formula to expose and further explore.

And, yes, actually Bdr Kinrara is not too bad, it is good indeed, the location is very good, I rate it much better than Bdr Puteri in terms of neighborhood and accessibility but based on the accessibility and earlier phases by I&P, it could be little terrible and couldn't make BK greater enough.

Anyhow, AI is lil different with BK, as it only fully developed by I&P together with Naza TTDI and everythinghas changed compare to 15 years ago, so, the marketing strategy had improved and hopefully I rated AI is live up the tag to emulate Kota Kemuning.


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post Mar 4 2013, 10:24 AM

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QUOTE(sycluap @ Mar 4 2013, 08:42 AM)
I did notice the split units too. But a new point for me here, why Chinese Feng Sui don't like he Neighbour higher than the owner? Any specific reason?
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Bcz his living is higher than him, where he would feel, his neighbour is living a level higher or much confortably in terms of wealth.

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post Mar 5 2013, 12:38 AM

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QUOTE(jucl @ Mar 4 2013, 10:37 AM)
This is valid for neighbour beside you or facing your house. However for back of your house neighbour its better to have them on higher ground so that u have something to lean against them.
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Hahaha, agree. But it is too hard to have such request and accommodation where, the unit of intermediate is higher than neighbour a bit but the behind row is a bit higher than the row we want.

LOL!~



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post Mar 6 2013, 10:09 AM

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QUOTE(jucl @ Mar 5 2013, 10:11 PM)
Sometimes feng shui is also about all "feel good factor". Though one can try choose good criteria to achieve best feng shui possible but if u miss the feeling good factor, the place feng shui may not be that good oso.
This is something that u cannot scientifically explain
But in short, if you  like the place, juz go ahead n buy lah..
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Agree.

If one trusted too heavy feng shui, it was hard to buy a good unit at good location, best timing and best price.

For me, I just trust the basic feng shui imply on me.

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