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SUSedge85
post Feb 1 2013, 08:13 AM

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Hi. I'm a gov dental officer. from what I can see, opportunities in this field is getting very saturated in both gov and private sectors. many private practices are facing their toughest times right now, many with very poor patient flow as little as 4-5 patient a day. even in the larger towns some are on the brink of closure.

as for the gov dental services, training centers are getting so limited. fresh grads have to share chairs (usually up to 8 officers per chair), this limiting opportunities to build up their skill after uni life.

rumors had it that there are plans as to hire future local officers by contract. and even so, you'll be put in a waiting list first.

the future for future gov officers in malaysia is bleak as we're facing an acute influx of officers from dodgy universities.

This post has been edited by edge85: Feb 1 2013, 08:59 AM
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post Feb 1 2013, 11:48 PM

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QUOTE(tehtmc @ Feb 1 2013, 02:48 PM)
That bad eh?  The situation created by the government.
It's even worse in the medical profession.
I think the type of training that you get  makes all  the difference.
There will always be demand for competent professionals in any field.
So, do you think RM0.5m spent on getting a degree from IMU is worth it?
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I agree that training is very important. but the training you get from dental schools are inadequate compared with the ones you will get during your FYDOship. and with less and less chairs to practice with during FYDO, how do you expect that dentist to turn out?

0.5M? totally not worth it.
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post Feb 1 2013, 11:59 PM

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QUOTE(C-Note @ Feb 1 2013, 03:44 PM)
the population has increased to 7 billion last year...there will never be enough competent doctors or dentists..saturation only happens in bigger cities and towns. currently its only 1:8000 dentist to patient ratio..msia aims to reach 1:4000 but still there wont be enough. i cant guarantee all dentist in the private sector will have good patient flow but im pretty sure the established and competent ones struggle to have some breathing space. those are usually old doctors and looking to retire soon. as one forummer jst mentioned, competent professionals will always be insufficient
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that ratio 1:4000 you mentioned is more or less (or already) met in big towns. in other states it could even reach 1:18000. buy you must ask yourself, who has more exposure to dental education and purchasing power?

and also more dentists doesn't mean the ratio will be met. lack of chairs with oversupply of dentists means work output remains the same.

competent grads from new private unis are pretty much a fallacy. foundation courses are bullshit if you ask me. if you can't even score a cgpa of 3.5 in ALEVELS/STPM, means you're not up to the standards already.
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post Feb 3 2013, 02:17 PM

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QUOTE(C-Note @ Feb 2 2013, 10:12 AM)
for the sake of discussion, mind telling us where you graduated from?

how do you define the worth of a degree? have you seen the dental facilities in imu? any idea how many dental chairs they have in the dental clinic ?
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QUOTE(Wint3r @ Feb 3 2013, 11:29 AM)
They expose their students to clinical practice as early as in the 2nd yr... With real patients, not simulated....
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i believe you did not get what i mean.

i wasn't comparing your beloved IMU to other public or private universities. I'm sure IMU offers quality degrees.

but the FEW patients that you will treat throughout your 4-year clinical practice, is nothing compared to working at a training clinic (usually in big towns) where you treat like 50 or more patients in one morning.

now what happens when you have too many NEW officers? you wil start to share chairs. instead of one officer to 50 patients like how we did, now you have 8 officers to 50 patients. hence you learn at a much slower pace.

so the amount that you could learn in your 2-year compulsory service, would severely be hampered. and when your contract ends (I sure hope MDC would implement this), there you go! go start a clinic in KL!

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post Feb 4 2013, 07:56 PM

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QUOTE(mvagirl @ Feb 3 2013, 01:46 PM)
Hi, I'm currently an A-levels student interested in pursuing a future career in Dentistry, would you mind me asking from your perspective..
what exactly are the facilities like in the dental faculty of IMU? is it big? i visited once but was not shown the entire area.

and are there enough patients to practice on?

and would there be any significant advantage by having clinical practice in 2nd year? how does it differ compared to other dental faculties in other universities?

Thanks in advance for your feedback !
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since it's situated at Bukit Jalil, there may be enough patients to practice on. but it will not be as much as how much you will treat during your training years.

having said that, with more dentists graduating will lead to less and less training space during your first two years of compulsory service.

would you dare to start your own private practice, with half baked education/training? patients are getting more educated and demanding. be prepared to face lawsuits if you cannot live up to their expectations!

with oversaturation of healthcare professionals, starting with 8000 unemployed nurses and now doctors. dental ones are joining them very quickly. ask yourself, do you really want to join that group?

This post has been edited by edge85: Feb 4 2013, 08:05 PM

 

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