ohh.. u mean the k-edge or sram chain drop protector???

i use the k-edge ones...

it is one essential thing to have for a carbon frame or a drop chain can damage the BB area...surface damage that is...

the new sram red chain drop protector is much better because it has an adjustment screw to adjust how close the protector comes to the small chain ring...

it can help save you from getting some dirty fingers if your chain drops and it could also cause you to have a andy schleck moment...

i have the birzman chain keeper


but i know the pedro's one is the better one to have as my birzman is not as nice to use as the chain keeps hopping out if you are more rough with it...


it's a good thing to have especially if you have a carbon frame.. and more so if you have long cage RDs...

btw, is your seatpost the single-bolt or two-bolt type? if single bolt, i don't think it's compatible with oval shaped rails. if u wanna to use this saddle, u need to get a new seatpost as well

am using fake K-Edge...

http://www.wanscycle.com/web/node/229

usually there's 10% discount. so that makes it 809. the toupe expert is 359 after discount. so if you can justify paying rm450 for 73g weight saving, why not right?

Fak Yeah~ Racing Stripe yoo~~~

Red white?


or just red...


hmm... dilemma dilemma

Decided to short list this three bikes as my probable next racy bike.

-Canyon Ultimate AL.
-Spez allez race (the same frame as the sworks allez but with sram rival).
-Caad 10 Racing.

I am leaning to canyon cos it offered the best value for money in terms of stuff that i will get with the bike when compared to the other two. The shitty part abt canyon is they wont ship to aussie (can ship to kl first) and i am not sure about the frame sizing. Whereas the Caad and Allez i can easily walk into LBS and buy from them that came with support too if shit happens. Being said, i wont be buying from the LBS i currently patronize as they only carry super high end carbon bike. I am not really sure wanna stick to high end alloy or get a mid tier carbon bike like Madone 5.2/Pina fp quattro/Colnago clx 3(which my lbs carried). My cyclist friend told me to go all out when getting a carbon bike.

What ya do if u in my shoes?

of course there are. but depends on how much u wanna sell

u meant how much you willing to let go?

you know it is a pirahnna pond out there...even new stuff with fixed price also people dare ask to nego

meh, i figured going out of budget will make me not upgrade so soon would be fine. just save up slightly longer then.
nope, did not find the time. what other merinda or fuji is in this range?
must be below 3.6
dont want to go any higher before i declare bankruptcy before the age of twenty.

racelite compared to giant mia should be about the same eh?
dont really get specs other than the the gears. aha
need alot of help here. so sorry. giant compared to merinda same range? how do they fare?

http://www.cyclingtips.com.au/2012/10/asso...bshorts-review/

is this S5?

dude... Merida or Giant or Trek or what so ever... with that price range... u'll not go wrong...

just buy and ride... im riding an Indon brand and riding happily (wait...riding and riding...or riding and riding...mmm...)

aluminum frames will fatigue over time and not feel the same as when you first bought it . Instead of spending 2000bucks every 3-5years for a new aluminum bike, buy a carbon which will last forever, and upgrade it. carbon - last longer, stronger, 2x more comfortable, light, good looking. Why do the pros use carbone?cause its the new, and better technology. CAAD is nice but look at their new top line models.... all carbon

That's a bunch of phooey. New aluminum bike every 3-5yrs? Absurd. Aluminum doesn't just magically go bad in a finite ammount of time. I wonder why thousands of aluminum aircraft, which are decades old, are flying over our heads every day and not falling out of the sky? Planes see far more faigue than bikes ever do. As well as the aluminum engine in my 6yro car. Is it time to scrap my car? Carbon fiber, and the epoxies use to bond the fibers do NOT have an endurance limit. Thus, just like aluminum, they will not last forever.

Carbon could crack regardless of the mileage if you hit it in the right spot. The notion of carbon frames cracking over time is based off of issues earlier carbon frames faced. They used a different resin which would deteriorate over time due to the sunlight, temperatures (Elements), they would even eventually discolour and or delaminate. The layup process was not as accurate so there were plenty of air pockets thru out leading to weak spots. Newer carbon tube technology along with newer resins have UV protection built right in and they are much more resilient. I would however agree that a carbon frame has different weak points in it's construction and during many falls (Hitting the same spots) could lead to a complete fracture of the resin which creates creaking and eventual failure. It takes a significant more amount of falls to fracture aluminum if the welds were done properly. My original post around why aluminum over carbon was to save the extra money plus the distance to get the bike adjusted or serviced via the warranty. Also people that used to ride and enjoy road riding in their early years think they still will, however with age comes the inevitable pains and aches and many steer away quickly especially with today's pot hole riddled roads. Less initial cost=less regrets for buying.

I see another person sold on marketing. Carbon bikes cost more not because they are better, but because they cost more to manufacture. A carbon frame will easily cost 3x4 times as much to build as an aluminum frame and with good reason. Aluminum is inexpensive due to it being the most abundant element on the planet. The aircraft comment made by another poster was impressive because the exact same grade aluminum used in aircrafts is used in bike frames. Carbon plane parts are not even the same compound used in carbon bikes. Plane: carbon/carbon; Bike: carbon/plastic. More comfortable? A carbon bike should ride more comfortably due to manufacturers adorning it with higher end components and wheels. If carbon is so much stronger, Why do you void your warranty if you pull a trailer on your carbon bike? For aluminum's "short life", there are quite a few fully loaded touring bikes crossing the country that are made of aluminum. Carbon couldn't handle that application or builders would be making a lot of them. If a carbon bike could be made strong enough to handle touring, it would weigh as much (if not more) than a steel framed tourer. Also, pros ride what they are paid to ride (like the other poster said). I own two carbon bikes but I'd be a fool to say that carbon is better. A CAAD 10 will not only run circles around a most carbon bikes, but it will do it with a fairly equal ride. One of my riding buddies owns a CAAD10 and just bought a Super Six. He said that the rides are identical and he has Zipp 404 F/C wheels on both.