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University Monash University or University of Nottingham?, For Engineering course. Confused.

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post Jan 30 2013, 03:40 PM

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QUOTE(knightzhenry @ Jan 30 2013, 03:34 PM)
If you say location wise or personal preference and convenience, I would say Monash University.

Well, thank you and thank goodness about #4. And yes, both universities are recognized by the Board of Engineers Malaysia. I'm just afraid that the ratings would jeopardize the quality of education in the universities.

So the education quality of both universities for Engineering are debatable I guess?
and also, I heard from some sources that the number of years to completing Masters in Nottingham is shorter than Monash, is that true?
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the masters in nottingham is not a real research masters.... all 4 year courses in the UK has a 'master' degree to it. if you want to get registered by BOE malaysia you have to do 4 years.. same like Australia.. just that the title would be a bachelor's degree..


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post Jan 30 2013, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(knightzhenry @ Jan 30 2013, 04:32 PM)
So the duration of the degree is the same but the title from both UK (Nottingham) and Australia (Monash) would be different?
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yes. different. but it is viewed as the same. in the malaysian context it doesn't really matter.
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post Jan 31 2013, 12:01 PM

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QUOTE(knightzhenry @ Jan 30 2013, 05:12 PM)
Hmmm okay. So how about the research thing? I found out that there is a design or research project that is needed in the 4th year to graduate as 'Masters' degree.

If there is, then if we were to complete the research project for that course in Nottingham, we would get the UK 'Masters' degree title?

And let's say in Monash, after doing the same thing for the 5th and 6th year, you can get the Australian 'Masters' degree title?
(Sorry  rclxub.gif , suddenly jumped to degree comparison but supposed to focus on quality of education, but since tehtmc mentioned that both unis are reputable, the quality would not be different I suppose.  rclxub.gif )
So you're saying in Business course, many would prefer Nottingham as an access to pass easier whereas Monash would have a higher failure rate because of the education quality of the university?  sad.gif
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yes you would get an MEng title. But it is not equivalent to a 1.5-2 years post graduate Masters program. You don't do the same thing in Monash. Once you graduate from your degree you can opt do an honours year. If you get first class or so you can jump right into PhD or continue Masters.


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post Feb 2 2013, 10:00 AM

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QUOTE(knightzhenry @ Feb 1 2013, 10:11 PM)
So the difference there would be,

Australian (Monash) degree : Completion after 4 years -> titled as "Degree" holder.
UK (Nottingham) degree : Completion after 4 years -> titled as "MEng" holder.

Is that right?  rclxub.gif

For Post-Graduate, both degrees would undertake 1.5 to 2 years of post-grad course to obtain PhD or Masters?  rclxub.gif
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Yes you are right. However in terms on employment in Malaysia, both are viewed as equal. Some even just do 3 years in engineering in UK (and you graduate with a BEng degree) because they are not bothered with getting registered with BEM. Post graduate is another story though.
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post Feb 4 2013, 11:22 PM

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QUOTE(knightzhenry @ Feb 4 2013, 06:39 PM)
So no matter what, doing 4 years for both degrees would be accounted as equal level in terms of employment in Malaysia? I mean, no terms and conditions for that matter right?

Hmmm.. Just Googled some facts and got confused with this.
Some people who stopped at BEng degree, would they have the same title as the Australian 'Bachelor' holders then? and would that actually confuse the employers if they faced this situation?
Well, Nottingham Malaysia, from what I heard, has a higher standard of education since it's based on UK education. Is it true that it's requirement for courses like Business is high because of that?
Maybe the failure rate in Monash would be the drawback on why the requirement in Monash for Business course is quite low?
Woah  shocking.gif , well done to your friends~  shocking.gif
Taylor's College. Hmmm.. Yeah, most of my friends are registered in Monash Business course already. Maybe you could meet my friends there.
Yeah, the intake for Eng is on September now to accommodate other students after A-Levels. Heard from one of the lecturers during The Star Edu Fair.
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Yes its Bachelors. that's why some people say its cheaper to study in the UK than Australia because you only need 3 years if you don't give a damn about BEM registration.

Haha. the entry requirement may be low but the high failure rate is due to the high standards. just ask any monash business student. its easy to enter to course, but hard to graduate from it.
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post Feb 7 2013, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(Cottoncandyclouds @ Feb 7 2013, 01:31 AM)

Notts first year engineering is harder than Monash. This is because what you cover in Australian unis for the first year already has been done in A-levels, which takes 2 years. SAM students do not cover as much material as A lvl students. However, beyond the first year, I'm not sure.
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are you sure about this? hmm.gif
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post Feb 7 2013, 11:35 PM

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QUOTE(futurekid @ Feb 7 2013, 09:22 PM)
Which candidate will be selected by employers:

1]3rd class hons from Oxford

2]upper 2nd class hons from Nottingham or

3]1st class hons from Curtin
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that really depends on what type of company... but ultimately your personality that matters a lot.

 

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