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 Turtles, Terrapins and Tortoises V6, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles

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post Jul 11 2013, 05:50 PM

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QUOTE(Mr.Docter @ Jul 11 2013, 04:44 PM)
May I know why soaking separately? Small container?
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Sorry, I mean I soak my star & leopard separately. Sometimes my leopard poop so much that I have to change the water again. And yes, container is too small as 1 of my leopard is more than 9 inches.. and eat like a monster.. rclxms.gif

Is it ok if they poop and we continue to let them stay in the water & drink it?
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post Jul 11 2013, 08:49 PM

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QUOTE(Mr.Docter @ Jul 11 2013, 06:30 PM)
Occasionally it is acceptable as their poop have certain flora that will enhance their digestive system biggrin.gif
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LOL.. Wonder why we humans don't do it then.. shocking.gif
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post Jul 12 2013, 12:51 PM

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QUOTE(Mr.Docter @ Jul 12 2013, 06:19 AM)
We have different needs and different methods biggrin.gif

By the way, I am having a hard time searching for subtable substrate replacement from hay to either coconut coir OR crushed oyster shell. I prefer the first one since the second one MIGHT lead to disimpaction in some cases.
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You mean you want only coconut coil?
In that case, may I humbly suggest you can go any wet market and look for vendors selling coconut. Ask them to sell you the coconut coil (should be cheap) since they will throw it away.
Just my idea.. smile.gif
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post Jul 12 2013, 03:37 PM

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QUOTE(Mr.Docter @ Jul 12 2013, 02:44 PM)
Found it locally! @ http://www.exoreptiles.com/my/index.php?ma...products_id=424

This was on my wishlist previously but too expensive to be use alone (unless someone want to share lol) @ http://www.ebay.com.my/itm/Canna-Coco-Coir...=item232a74f9b8
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RM2 is very cheap leh.. thumbup.gif
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post Jul 12 2013, 05:36 PM

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QUOTE(Mr.Docter @ Jul 12 2013, 03:44 PM)
Purchased 10 already biggrin.gif

Btw so silent here  ohmy.gif
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Haiz.. that's what I think too. Not much of a learnign experience.
Foreign groups are so much more active.. tongue.gif
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post Jul 12 2013, 05:37 PM

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QUOTE(mozambique @ Jul 12 2013, 05:36 PM)
Haiz.. that's what I think too. Not much of a learnign experience.
Foreign groups are so much more active..  tongue.gif
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By the way, did you pruchase online? If not, where to go & buy?
Thank you..
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post Jul 15 2013, 04:22 PM

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QUOTE(SAMPERTH @ Jul 13 2013, 10:41 AM)
I use them by the bags instead of the 1lb pack !!

Actually I can do without ( bit over-rated I think ) just that when in season with too many hatchlings needing finely chopped green thus i substitute with moisten /soften mazuri to reduce work load !! LOl

I have some sp that have not being feed mazuri since i got them at 2-3" and they do ok  and now reaching adulthood and starting the cycle just fine !!

Balance diet with variety is the way to go .
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Hi both Sifus,

Since both of you are actively discussing now, I need your kind advice.

I am currently keeping 2 star tortoises since last year July. The smaller star hasn't been growing, have splayed hind legs & pluffy eyes. I brought to the vet a few times (for dewormed) but every single time he said she's ok.

I highly suspect he knows shit as he even suggested that I feed my star with fruits. But he used to be the vet from Zoo Negara. Thus, I need to show some respect.. tongue.gif

Please advice me what is wrong and what needs to be done. My other star is getting bigger & bigger as compared to this smaller star.

Thank you in advance.. thumbup.gif
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post Jul 15 2013, 07:59 PM

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QUOTE(Mr.Docter @ Jul 15 2013, 04:32 PM)
I am not too good with other species, but its good that you have 2 same species tortoise so that you can compare between the sick and the healthy one. But be mind that it might be contagious and effect both of them sad.gif

On the diet side, how's his appetite? Do you happened to have multi-vitamins as supplement to be mix together in his diet?

Puffy eyes not a good sign too. Any noticeable discharge from the affected eyes?
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Hi Mr. Doctor,

There's no discharge from the eyes. I noticed that if I put her under basking light, somehow the pluffiness went down (or maybe I'm imagining thing.. hmm.gif )

She has a healthy appetite (can finish 3-4 Mazuri pellets at 1 time); I gave them calcium & multi-vit powders; I bring the smaller star in for ultre-red light when I think that it's cold at night; I close the entrance to the hide to force her to be under the sun whenever I can; I let her eat 1st before the larger star; I brought her for dewormed regularly... but still she is not growing. Her shell looks deformed too (pic attached)

I highlighted twice to the vet about the red eyes, but he said there is nothing wrong. I'm running out of idea.. blink.gif

By the way, she is 12.2 cm and weight around 360g.


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post Jul 16 2013, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(Mr.Docter @ Jul 16 2013, 02:12 PM)
Hi,

Can you kindly provide pictures of this little fella's eyes? Causes of puffy eyes could vary from infection (usually with discharge to quite uncommonly - Vitamin A deficiency. Try adding some baby carrot on his diet, see how it goes.

Also regarding deworming, mind sharing the procedure/location/price/any information? I never done to my tortoise so far. Also, how regular is regularly deworming that you done to your tortoise?
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I don't have a closed up pic of her eyes right now. I will try to take some pic tonight.

I thought star are not supposed to be fed with carrot? I feed my star mostly with Mazuri, don't think it is due to Vit A deficiency.

For deworming:

1. The vet will require the poo to examine and determine what kind of worm the tortises have (almost 100% they will have worms);
2. The vet will prescribe some liquid medication;
3. We have to follow a cycle. Something like apply the liquid (either force feed or mix in their food) 4 days in a row, stop for 4 days, then 4 days in a row again;
4. Bring back to the vet to examine the poo again to ensure they are cleared of worms. If not, the medication cycle has to be continued until they are clear.

I always bring my tortoises to the following vet (but I doubt his knowledge.. tongue.gif ):

Dr. S. Vellayan (by appointment)
No. 10, Jalan L2, Phase 6A, Taman Melawati, 53100 Kuala Lumpur
H : +6013 6246918
F : +603 4108 5530
E : vellayan@tm.net.my
vellayans@hotmail.com

Price wise, it is not expensive. Maybe about RM 80 for all my 4 tortoises.

Some people said once a year for deworming is fine. I do mine about half yearly.

Hope the above information is useful.. thumbup.gif
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post Jul 16 2013, 02:35 PM

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QUOTE(mozambique @ Jul 16 2013, 02:32 PM)
I don't have a closed up pic of her eyes right now. I will try to take some pic tonight.

I thought star are not supposed to be fed with carrot? I feed my star mostly with Mazuri, don't think it is due to Vit A deficiency.

For deworming:

1. The vet will require the poo to examine and determine what kind of worm the tortises have (almost 100% they will have worms);
2. The vet will prescribe some liquid medication;
3. We have to follow a cycle. Something like apply the liquid (either force feed or mix in their food) 4 days in a row, stop for 4 days, then 4 days in a row again;
4. Bring back to the vet to examine the poo again to ensure they are cleared of worms. If not, the medication cycle has to be continued until they are clear.

I always bring my tortoises to the following vet (but I doubt his knowledge..  tongue.gif ):

Dr. S. Vellayan (by appointment)
No. 10, Jalan L2, Phase 6A, Taman Melawati, 53100 Kuala Lumpur
H : +6013 6246918
F : +603 4108 5530
E : vellayan@tm.net.my
vellayans@hotmail.com

Price wise, it is not expensive. Maybe about RM 80 for all my 4 tortoises.

Some people said once a year for deworming is fine. I do mine about half yearly.

Hope the above information is useful..  thumbup.gif
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I forgot to add the above pricing is inclusive of some Vit A & E I brought back home as well.
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post Jul 17 2013, 12:05 PM

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QUOTE(SAMPERTH @ Jul 17 2013, 07:45 AM)
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The first 4 days is to clear the adult worm first , stop for 4 days is for the eggs to hatch , the next 4 days is to clear the baby worms before they lay more eggs !!
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Wow, Sifu SAMPERTH is really an expert. I didn't even ask why there must be a stop to the cycle. Now I know it is to wait for the eggs to hatch.. rclxms.gif

By the way, I read it somewhere that Panacur can cure all type of worm problems.

Mr. Doctor, please find attached for the red eyes. I doubt it's because of Vit. A deficiency, because I do all the things necessary liao.. rclxub.gif


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post Jul 19 2013, 03:55 PM

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Hi Guys,

I have a question but I don't know whether this is the right place to find the answer.

Recently I have seen from various sources posting the sale of star tortoises with legal permit.

I am just wondering how is it possible when the countries of origin have imposed a ban on it? If they are illegally smuggled into Malaysia, how did they obtain the permits?

Just thought maybe we can discuss about this topic here.. peace.
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post Jul 22 2013, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(Mr.Docter @ Jul 20 2013, 12:04 AM)
Thank you for the info! This is new information for me. I shall contact Dr S. Vellayan soon on the Monday to set my appointment after Raya.

Also you think its possible if we met only once? As I have to travel from Kedah to KL for this and I don't go down KL too frequently via car.
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Oh, didn't know u r from Kedah. In that case, u should be looking for vet near to u rather than travelling all the way to kl.
Cheers.. smile.gif
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post Jul 22 2013, 11:59 AM

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QUOTE(Mr.Docter @ Jul 20 2013, 12:18 AM)
Usually someone will pop up and start basing with rude & arrogance in explaining you should know that you should read those by yourself etc if based on previous threads...

Anyhow, I did have some conversation with Jabatan Perhilitan Semenanjung Malaysia @ Facebook @ https://www.facebook.com/pages/Jabatan-Perh...208535215826654 about legal permit and they did provide a detailed answer. So you might want to contact them to have more precise respond.

Would love to know the answers too! Do share with us when you find it!
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Many thanks, Mr. Docter. The main issue here is that I cannot read in BM.. tongue.gif

I will try to do some google translate.. flex.gif
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post Jul 22 2013, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(mic_tcs @ Jul 21 2013, 07:50 PM)
Just as Sam said, with the current law endorcement in Malaysia, you can always legalize illegal stuff in Malaysia, provided you have money
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I guess money talks in this case? hmm.gif
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post Jul 23 2013, 09:43 PM

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QUOTE(Mr.Docter @ Jul 23 2013, 07:26 PM)
Don't think we have tortoise vet in here... doh.gif

Will do some searching before go to KL with my tortoise. Tried to contact your vet's email but its a dead email. Will give him a call soon for inquiries. Thanks for the info!
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Oh, I didn't know the email doesn't work. Usually I just give him a buzz. Let me know if the number doesn't work.

I learn new things from this book: http://home.mindspring.com/~fifereptiles/id2.html

If possible, you may consider to purchase it. biggrin.gif
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post Jul 24 2013, 12:54 PM

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QUOTE(Mr.Docter @ Jul 23 2013, 10:16 PM)
Not for my species cry.gif

Now I am currently searching for female tortoise to be mate with my tort. The chance are simply astronomical.
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What species are you keeping?
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post Jul 24 2013, 02:08 PM

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QUOTE(SAMPERTH @ Jul 24 2013, 01:14 PM)
His , is a testudo - Egyptian tortoise !!

Different genus but some basic needs still the same !!
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I would like to add radiated & aldarba tortoises to my collection.. tongue.gif
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post Jul 24 2013, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(mic_tcs @ Jul 24 2013, 04:06 PM)
Got the permission from ur gf dy? rclxms.gif
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LMAO!! Everything begins with a dream. In this case, I dare to dream.. drool.gif
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post Jul 24 2013, 06:44 PM

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QUOTE(Mr.Docter @ Jul 24 2013, 05:59 PM)
Aldabra will grow too huge for average capacity. That's my very first criteria before deciding to opt any species - size.
I see a lot of people buying hatching Sulcata because its cheap and cute during small, but its a walking bulldozer-will be. I heard they can erode the home cement foundation if you don't provide sufficient depth for the to burrow sweat.gif
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True, mental preparation is very important.
Too many impulse buying has occured.
Cheers.. thumbup.gif

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