Hey, that's a nice enclosure! 

Is it indoor? Mind to take a better pic to see the whole thing?

Tq.. 

Agreed. More pics please!

Hi Mr. Doctor,

Mind to share the size of this enclosure?

Tq again.. 

Wow, that is big for an indoor enclosure.

Mind to share where to get such a big plastic tank? Mind is only 3ft x 2ft and I put it at my balcony..

Many thanks to you, Mr. Doctor.

I wish I can do that but currently I'm staying in a condo. I have already sueeze two 3ft x 2ft fiber tanks & a cage of about the same size. Can you imagine how cramp it is? Plus I have to deal with a gf who keeps nagging on my tortoises.. 

I have to do it slowing 1 step at a time in order to have perfect hearing in my old years..   

Haha, tq for your advice.
Too bad I don't have any extra room (staying ina studio).
Already I kena up, down, left, right for soaking them in the bathtub.. 
Waiting for next yr moving to a landed house with big garden.. 

All my tortoises poop as and when they are happy.
I work long hours and soaking of 4 tortoises separately take up at least an hr plus.. 

Sorry, I mean I soak my star & leopard separately. Sometimes my leopard poop so much that I have to change the water again. And yes, container is too small as 1 of my leopard is more than 9 inches.. and eat like a monster.. 

Is it ok if they poop and we continue to let them stay in the water & drink it?

LOL.. Wonder why we humans don't do it then.. 

You mean you want only coconut coil?
In that case, may I humbly suggest you can go any wet market and look for vendors selling coconut. Ask them to sell you the coconut coil (should be cheap) since they will throw it away.
Just my idea.. 

RM2 is very cheap leh.. 

Haiz.. that's what I think too. Not much of a learnign experience.
Foreign groups are so much more active.. 

By the way, did you pruchase online? If not, where to go & buy?
Thank you..

Gone are the days !! Everyone nowadays more active on their FaceB .........T ...... account !!

BTW just a point on the Coconut coir and peat stuff as substrate - These used with the sole or main benefit of retaining or maintaining moisture thus humidity in the enclosure !!

BUT I thought Egyptian Tortoise from Habitat and ecology

Kleinmann's tortoises live in deserts and semiarid habitats, usually with compact sand and gravel plains, scattered rocks, shallow, sandy wadis, dry woodlands, shrubby areas, and coastal salt marsh habitats. In captivity, they eat grasses, fruits, and vegetables, but the diets of wild tortoises are unknown.
They are least active when the weather is very cold or very hot. During the colder months, they are out most during midday. During the warm season, they are active in the mornings and evenings. The rest of the day is spent under bushes or in rodent burrows.
Thus do they need the extra humidity when our average air humidity is higher then in their native range ?

Ok point taken !! Mine on paper pellets , watering done outside 3 times a week , heat provided from above , no extra decoration just a few hide so no competition - so far so good for the past 6 yrs !!

Mazuri i wean off after 6 mths too costly for so many mouths !!

Even when feeding mazuri about 40% only , the rest green only  ( dry sp) and with fruits ( tropical sp )

I use them by the bags instead of the 1lb pack !!

Actually I can do without ( bit over-rated I think ) just that when in season with too many hatchlings needing finely chopped green thus i substitute with moisten /soften mazuri to reduce work load !! LOl

I have some sp that have not being feed mazuri since i got them at 2-3" and they do ok  and now reaching adulthood and starting the cycle just fine !!

Balance diet with variety is the way to go .

Hi both Sifus,

Since both of you are actively discussing now, I need your kind advice.

I am currently keeping 2 star tortoises since last year July. The smaller star hasn't been growing, have splayed hind legs & pluffy eyes. I brought to the vet a few times (for dewormed) but every single time he said she's ok.

I highly suspect he knows shit as he even suggested that I feed my star with fruits. But he used to be the vet from Zoo Negara. Thus, I need to show some respect..   

Please advice me what is wrong and what needs to be done. My other star is getting bigger & bigger as compared to this smaller star.

Thank you in advance.. 

Hi Mr. Doctor,

There's no discharge from the eyes. I noticed that if I put her under basking light, somehow the pluffiness went down (or maybe I'm imagining thing..  )

She has a healthy appetite (can finish 3-4 Mazuri pellets at 1 time); I gave them calcium & multi-vit powders; I bring the smaller star in for ultre-red light when I think that it's cold at night; I close the entrance to the hide to force her to be under the sun whenever I can; I let her eat 1st before the larger star; I brought her for dewormed regularly... but still she is not growing. Her shell looks deformed too (pic attached)

I highlighted twice to the vet about the red eyes, but he said there is nothing wrong. I'm running out of idea.. 

By the way, she is 12.2 cm and weight around 360g.

am i correct is saying turtle live in sea, tortoise stay on land and terrapin are fresh water dwellers?

Wow, Sifu SAMPERTH is really an expert. I didn't even ask why there must be a stop to the cycle. Now I know it is to wait for the eggs to hatch.. 

By the way, I read it somewhere that Panacur can cure all type of worm problems.

Mr. Doctor, please find attached for the red eyes. I doubt it's because of Vit. A deficiency, because I do all the things necessary liao.. 

For deworming:

1. The vet will require the poo to examine and determine what kind of worm the tortises have (almost 100% they will have worms);
2. The vet will prescribe some liquid medication;
3. We have to follow a cycle. Something like apply the liquid (either force feed or mix in their food) 4 days in a row, stop for 4 days, then 4 days in a row again;
4. Bring back to the vet to examine the poo again to ensure they are cleared of worms. If not, the medication cycle has to be continued until they are clear.

I always bring my tortoises to the following vet (but I doubt his knowledge..  ):

Dr. S. Vellayan (by appointment)
No. 10, Jalan L2, Phase 6A, Taman Melawati, 53100 Kuala Lumpur
H : +6013 6246918
F : +603 4108 5530
E : vellayan@tm.net.my
vellayans@hotmail.com

Price wise, it is not expensive. Maybe about RM 80 for all my 4 tortoises.

Some people said once a year for deworming is fine. I do mine about half yearly.

Hope the above information is useful..