my friends kept saying how to tumpang him and the others. i said 1 person only hahahahah. got discount? what discount?

oh only for the 2012 model i see. im buying the 2013. im not sure whether the baby chair can fit the backrow but i think its possible coz the problem for the backrow are the head rooms and the leg space. as for the friend thingy i agree fetch one by one or put in the bonet

oh only for the 2012 model i see. im buying the 2013. im not sure whether the baby chair can fit the backrow but i think its possible coz the problem for the backrow are the head rooms and the leg space. as for the friend thingy i agree fetch one by one or put in the bonet

My wife and I use it as our main car, but we still have a back up proton hanging around in case we need a 4 sitter.
If you plan for a baby.... as much as I like the car, unless you plan to buy a 2nd car in 2-3 yrs time, i say forget it. dont let your heart take control over your head. yes u can put a child seat, but with a child, you have tonnes of other stuff to carry with you... and without the seat folded down, you dont have much space. Listen to your wife. You wont regret it. 

This car will not have much 2nd hand value as well... I bought this car knowing I am in for the long haul. Its rare, its unique and i see that it has alot of potential to do a lot of things in the future.

I plan to change my proton later for something else in a few years time once my loan for the Z is paid off.

On the plus side, this car, its great car, really fun to drive, responsive.... as its very new, and i have not had a chance to play with it too much (currently overseas), i cant tell for sure as i have not rev above 3K but i would say the performance does not feel too much different from FD 2.0 which was my main car b4 this.   

And if you do go down the path of passion vs logic , get the FL, not that the 2012 is not good just for a little more,  you get all the advancement, s+, more power etc and 5 yrs unlimited mileage warranty.

This is the main concern that is stuck in my brain now bro. Im offloading my 6 months old Preve to an important family person, so the Z will be my only main car. Passion is running strong in me now against logic. But the women boss sounds logical also. What a struggle.....

how old are you Uncle^R

don't be fooled. some non hybrids out there are clocking km/l as high as hybrids. some even better.

i believe the racun has already masuk your system... no turning back. hahaha

If wife rejects the car, my suggestion is to listen to your wife. IMHO, you don't want to end up in a situation where she says "I told you so". Trust me, you'd never hear the end of it till you die.
I drive a CRZ, however, I also have other cars to appease the Lord-at-Home, thus if you are planning for one car only, I would suggest a 4 door car.

Insight??? wah liao.no la... dont go down that road. Insight, might as well stick with whatever you driving now.

if you want a honda, and a hybrid... get the civic?

never dyno my car b4 .. i am not a car mod. but i did read temple of Vtec asia that the FD 2.0 does 130 on Dyno, giving it a 15% power lost due to transmission. which is better than some manual! the 1.8 has a higher power lost.

My Z, i will probably mod it a bit to give it a bit more muscle after 5 yrs warranty and by then, my wife would have gotten her choice of cars. She wants some SUV painted black with a big My Melody head on the bonnet just to irritate me for getting the Z .
exactly why the Z works for me, I dont normally push my car to very high speeds for long periods.. usually just short burst or over taking or merging lanes etc. for this purposes, the Z is perfect.