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post Feb 14 2013, 08:56 AM

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QUOTE(jfcheong @ Feb 13 2013, 08:25 AM)
5) #Design: Air cond inside the glove compartment, WTH for? It serves as a chilling function, you may chile your soft drink by putting in the glove box. However, you can also turn off the air con vent thats inside the glove box.
Hi, please allow me to put in some comments on the above.
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How to do this?

I'm loving the heavy doors by the way. smile.gif

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post Feb 14 2013, 09:01 AM

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QUOTE(Patrick12 @ Feb 12 2013, 11:34 AM)
Hi all 408 owners,i am sort of undeciding whether to get the turbo or the 2.0NA.in town,i normally drive at about 60 to 80 kph whereas in highway just 100 to 130 kph only.I had tested the turbo, it was so powerful.I plan to use this car for at least 5 to 7 years, so I am worried about the turbo engine might be causing problems in the future.any advise?and any 2.0 owner here why u chose 2.0 instead of turbo?
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2.0 was just within my set budget.

I prefer the fabric seats as they are much cooler when you start to drive the car.

Speed wise it is still a good car, you just need to floor it. smile.gif



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post Feb 14 2013, 11:24 AM

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QUOTE(jfcheong @ Feb 14 2013, 09:35 AM)
You can just turn the vent over left/ right  smile.gif
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Never noticed that vent there.
Good, no need to freeze the manual anymore. smile.gif
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QUOTE(joeaggas @ Feb 14 2013, 09:35 AM)
Since it's 2.0NA, have you tried the Ford Focus yet?
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Na, it wasn't out yet back then and my budget was 110k.
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post Feb 26 2013, 12:55 PM

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QUOTE(rinnyrinny @ Feb 26 2013, 11:59 AM)
dear all, mind to share your FC?
thanks
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2.0, >9999 km, 10.6 l/100km, 37 km/hr
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post Feb 26 2013, 04:32 PM

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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Feb 26 2013, 02:07 PM)
Hi guys, sorry to change the subject, just a quick question/survey...
I read somewhere that when your car is stationery at the traffic light waiting for green light, changing gear to N (neutral) is an advisable way to preserve longevity of your gearbox/prevent wear and tear. Is everyone here  doing that?  Some quarters said it is not good to do it, as if you are not careful, you end up hurting it more when you don't give it anough time to engage when your lights turn green and you hastily switch it to D,?!

I know my NA gear is 4 speeder AL4 while Turbo is AT6, but from how I understand it, that doing it is advisable for any car (but I have read this sometime back, so not sure it apply for those DSGs too), Any Feedback?
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I always keep it in D. Don't notice any problem so far.
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post Mar 1 2013, 06:53 PM

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QUOTE(kwchan_7 @ Feb 28 2013, 11:10 AM)
Haiz~~ I do share your sentiment on the audio part.. It's reaaally sucks.. flat with no bass.. all the preset sound the same.. Even elantra without tweeter is better than 408T..
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So far not too bad... listening to Radio trance - Boctok 5 (volume 18)
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QUOTE(EP6CDTM @ Mar 1 2013, 09:55 PM)
18?

i'll be deaf at that level cool.gif
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At 18 can feel the music. smile.gif
Don't dare to go much louder, afraid to blow the speaker.
Normal listening radio at about 6
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QUOTE(Pugbunny @ Mar 3 2013, 11:32 PM)
Hi guys, just want to re-confirm.

I sent my car for the first 10,000km service when the actual mileage was 9,303km. My next service interval is due by 19,303km or 20,000km (as written by the service center on the Service Record book?
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Be safe and make sure your car has no more than 19,803 when it arrives for the service.
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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Mar 4 2013, 10:01 AM)
http://www.reliabilityindex.com/ratings/best/Small%20Family

Small Family

Rank/ Make and Model/ Reliability Rating /ReliabilityIndex /Average RepairCost
1. Mitsubishi Lancer  7.00 £95.43
2. Toyota Auris  25.00 £243.63
3. Toyota Corolla  30.00 £313.71
4. Mitsubishi Space Star  35.00 £196.60
5. Honda Civic  36.00 £318.67
6. Mazda 323  44.00 £208.18
7. Rover Streetwise  44.00 £253.93
8. Mazda 3  50.00 £397.50
9. Fiat Brava  52.00 £263.07
10. Skoda Octavia  59.00 £188.19
11. Nissan Almera  59.00 £288.37
12. Peugeot 308  61.00 £183.51
13. Nissan Qashqai  63.00 £341.47
14. Chevrolet Lacetti  63.00 £259.35
15. Peugeot 207  63.00 £313.66
16. Peugeot 206  65.00 £232.21
17. Ford Focus  67.00 £235.53
18. Peugeot 306  69.00 £201.46
19. Citroen Xsara  80.00 £200.28
20. Vauxhall Astra  80.00 £278.00
21. Citroen C4  82.00 £291.70
22. Volkswagen Golf  83.00 £259.42
23. Volkswagen Beetle  86.00 £278.00
24. Peugeot 307  98.00 £260.71
25. Seat Altea  115.00 £328.18
26. BMW 1 Series  116.00 £474.42
27. Rover 25  116.00 £363.06
28. Volkswagen Bora  120.00 £291.65
29. MG ZR  122.00 £324.65
30. Renault Megane  123.00 £288.67
31. Mercedes-Benz A-Class  135.00 £446.22
32. Fiat Stilo  143.00 £225.54
33. Volkswagen Jetta  166.00 £409.48
34. Seat Leon  172.00 £598.87
35. Audi A3  185.00 £423.61
36. Alfa Romeo 147  304.00 £486.17
37. Subaru Impreza  336.00 £999.99
308 scores better than VW golf, Fofo (Ford Focus) & VW jetta

http://www.reliabilityindex.com/manufacturer

further reads on the topic

(The UK Reliability index takes into account all factors of a repair, the cost of the parts and the frequency of failures - The Average of all cars is 100 which means that if the figure for the car you are looking at has a higher than average index (118) it indicates that that car is less reliable than the average, if however there is a lower than average index (60) the reliability is better.

Rank/ Make and Model/ Reliability Index
1. Daihatsu  26.00
2. Suzuki  39.00
3. Honda  40.00
4. Chevrolet  69.00
5. Toyota  69.00
6. Hyundai  75.00
7. Lexus  82.00
8. Mazda  88.00
9. Ford  90.00
10. SKODA  91.00
11. Mitsubishi  94.00
12. Subaru  95.00
13. Citroen  98.00
14. Nissan  98.00
15. Kia  99.00
16. Peugeot  99.00
17. Fiat  100.00
18. Daewoo  103.00
19. Smart  119.00
20. Seat  122.00
21. Vauxhall  123.00
22. SsangYong  134.00
23. Volkswagen  134.00
24. Renault  138.00
25. Mini  141.00
26. ROVER  152.00
27. Saab  161.00
28. Volvo  162.00
29. BMW  170.00
30. MG  184.00
31. Jaguar  184.00
32. Mercedes-Benz  213.00
33. Audi  225.00
34. Chrysler  227.00
35. Jeep  242.00
36. Alfa Romeo  248.00
37. Porsche  299.00
38. LANDROVER

Korean scoring not bad in OVERALL Reliability Index, french Citroen & Peugeot doing better than Germans (except Renault, ranked 24th, below VW, ranked 23rd)
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Don't need to worry about this too much.

Since they take into account cost, of course more expensive cars will have a worse rating.
Cheaper smaller cars are likely to have a better rating.
Example, if you buy a Porsche you know maintenance is going to be higher than if you buy a KIA picanto.

A better comparison would be if they compared how much time was required to repair a car on average.

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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Mar 5 2013, 11:35 AM)
Time needed to repair (in days) is here too in the link , see http://www.reliabilityindex.com/manufacturer/AvgLabour

I have also sensed cheaper /smaller cars have better rating because having simpler/older or proven tech (manufactured at larger volume and automation/skills achieved to near perfection) sure more reliable.

But as a consumer, u can still compare the car by price level by selecting those cars in the same price range and click COMPARE.

Or by Size, either small compact to  whatever size u fancy, just select the appropriate lists ,see http://www.reliabilityindex.com/ratings
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Ah yes, that is much better. Toyota is quite bad.

Looking further into the data, there are more problems with it.
Average mileage and age of the cars can vary quite a bit.
For example, Daihatsu is best in time of the road but has the second lowest mileage at 34,041 km.
Highest mileage is Volvo with 59,218.
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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Mar 5 2013, 01:57 PM)
Yes, Warranty Direct admitted said that,

'Another thing to bear in mind when comparing vehicles is that a particular car's reliability score can be dependant on the average age and mileage of those particular cars we hold on file. Normally a newer model will have a lower Reliability Score than a 6 year old vehicle with 70,000 miles on the clock.'

So if u really want fair comparison, try looking at all thing with same aspects, not just price level, size but also age or mileage. That of course is harder to do because not all things are 100% similar, that is true even for prices.
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I guess the data is just nice if you want to compare between 2 specific models between which you can't choose.
You really have to dig in deep to take into account car age and mileage and even than you still don't know how many data points are used for that specific car model.

For anything else it's really just a very rough indicator.
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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Mar 5 2013, 04:14 PM)
U guys are very lucky, when i bought my NA from CSL branch, all i was getting is the usual tinting discount voucher, a free smart tag, a tank full of petrol only.

That happened end Sep 2012
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I got a keychain vmad.gif

Had to pick this one as it had the highest trade in value.
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post Mar 7 2013, 10:18 AM

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The other day my car couldn't start.

Immediately suspected battery, there was not even enough power left to lock the car. At some point I did manage to unlock the booth.
Lucky it happened at home.

Anyway, car got towed to nearest service centre, battery was replaced within a day.
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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Mar 7 2013, 11:06 AM)
Hi Prody,

Mind sharing what is the mileage /time length of owneship when that happened? first time bat need change?

I was told my 2.0 NA is ready to be collected, with bat changed and installed, all system tested. Nego with the service manager who promise me to give RM50 discount for labour service for next 20k km service (but no black n white voucher, just recorded somewhere ,in their sytem perhaps?

Ground for asking:

Car bought end Sep 2012 (just over 5 months), mileage just over 10,000 km (service 10k km just 3 weeks back), so how can they missed it in the 1ok km service if the bat health was weak.

Need to take cab to collect car (no complimentary pick up from office to SC)

Yours also NA, I would not expect this to happen to NA, as battery drainage /lifespan should hold better compare to Turbo

The Serv Manager said, what is replaced is a newer version better battery, I will see it to believe it when I am there to collect my car after lunch
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About 16k since middle 2012. First time to change yeah.

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QUOTE(SKYjack @ Mar 7 2013, 11:16 AM)
How old is your car? Are you a city driver mainly and seldom do long runs?Greatest battery drainage is during start ups. Wondering if daily multiple start ups coupled with insufficient charge periods due to mainly city drives is the cause of short battery life.

IMO,to keep our Lion healthy,good to unleash her once a week at least for an hour. Good for the engine,good for the battery! Just my 2cents worth.
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Mainly city driver yes, but my daily morning run takes more than an hour.
Now I wonder if my USB drive which is always connected somehow can drain the battery. smile.gif
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QUOTE(EP6CDTM @ Mar 7 2013, 01:15 PM)
i think when we turn the ignition off, power is cut as well?
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I'll run a test later. Cause immediately after I switch of the car, the USB drive light still blinks.
Similarly another usb drive light blinks throughout the night, even when I already turn of my WDTV live.
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QUOTE(OrangBiasa @ Mar 7 2013, 09:30 PM)
After I read your post, I check my USB drive when reach home this evening. I switched off the engine and open the centre console to check my USB. I observed from outside and my USB drive still lighted. So I took it off.

2 hours later when I try to start the engine, it won't start. Wipers move half way n all light indicators went off. So, sudah kena lah..

Called toll free number and the guy told me that the battery in Cheras area is out of stock. So I have to wait until tomorrow morning for the battery to be replaced. They will send from Balakong SC. Luckily it happened at my house.

I bought mine in June 2012 and my mileage is 17K. Long distance travel once a month to my hometown in Labis. The rest, city driving.

Now I regret taken out my USB drive. Should leave it there. So, early owners, brace yourself..
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Wa, bad luck.

I did the test, the light for the USB will keep blinking for about 1 minute and than its off.
I suppose power to the USB is completely cut off at that point so it should not be a problem to leave it in.
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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Mar 8 2013, 10:40 AM)
@Jessyeo, did you mess with the USB stick? if you did, that will make a very concrete case with net_mave, prody, myself and orangbiasa?
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Just to correct you. I always leave my usb inside the car.
I was just wondering if it was possibly the cause of draining the battery, but I don't think it is.

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QUOTE(Pugbunny @ Mar 16 2013, 12:02 PM)
Today my pug engine dies off suddenly while travelling at 50km/p. The aircond and radio are still functioning. Luckily not on busy road. I thought it was the battery problem. After stopped at the roadside,  I switched off the engine. I managed to switch on the engine after waited for few seconds. I tried it for few times and all attempts were successful. Was this a battery problem or fuel pump problem? Anyone has encountered this problem before?
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Do you know what mode you were using, ie D, Ds, manual, etc?

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