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Investment PAVILION HILLTOP MONT'KIARA [OWNERS' THREAD], Pavilion is coming to Mont Kiara

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post Apr 5 2013, 07:24 PM

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QUOTE(doomdoom @ Apr 5 2013, 06:58 PM)
i think one of the problem for mont kiara mall..is too luxury...target those foreigners...but they have to know that nowadays quite a lot of locals also stay at mont kiara......maybe if something like jusco or tesco open at here...will be more crowded....
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NOOOOOOOOOO...... Never allow those hyper market into MK.... The comfort and cozy feel or the environment will be gone if those hyper market gonna be in MK....
Anyway, I think Sunrise will be power enough to stop that.... tongue.gif

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post Apr 9 2013, 12:43 PM

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Where is their Sales office?
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post Apr 9 2013, 01:15 PM

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QUOTE(B.Angela @ Apr 9 2013, 01:09 PM)
Pavilion KL level 7  just follow the direction that lead you to Pavilion Banyan Tree Residence show unit, they have not really openly market this in a big way yet, very private and only for VIP.
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So they not going to entertain walk in?

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post Apr 9 2013, 01:33 PM

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QUOTE(B.Angela @ Apr 9 2013, 01:27 PM)
You can try... I think  they do... at least I think they are not as arrogant slaes people in Sunrise.. heard so many aweful story about them.. doh.gif  doh.gif
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Shall see..... Lets try with shorts, t-shirt with slippers..... brows.gif
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post Apr 9 2013, 01:55 PM

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QUOTE(B.Angela @ Apr 9 2013, 01:40 PM)
You can try but first you must go through the x-ray stares from the shoppers in Pav if that doesn't kill you, I think the laser stares from the guards will ..... cool2.gif  cool2.gif
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Are u a staff or sales staff there?
If they read abt this, probably they'll treat all short, t-shirt slipper ppl very nice from now onwards.... laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
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post Apr 9 2013, 09:42 PM

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QUOTE(B.Angela @ Apr 9 2013, 05:44 PM)
BTW no balcony for this unit, but I really dont prefer balcony, especially if I can swap it for an extra room.... icon_rolleyes.gif
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I thought bathtub shld be the first choice item for any swap since u r Japanese..... tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif
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post Apr 11 2013, 02:50 PM

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Visited....
This is a pure residential project, thus it cannot be compared with those mix development such as Arcoris.....
Looking at the surrounding neighbours, Seni, Tiffani, Kiaravilla, even La Grande.... All these project focus mainly on large buildup... Tiffani hav some small build up but I think it's very limited too....
Pavilion's 1200sf shld hav good demand for those looking forward smaller size luxury condo.... Even investment may be good for those smaller size build up....
The 2nd block onwards it shld be larger build up already.... So now very limited units available for the 1200sf, higher flr all taken up already....
Price.... No need mention, buying such condo price shldnt be your main concern.... tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif

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post Apr 11 2013, 03:00 PM

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QUOTE(Lcsx @ Apr 11 2013, 02:52 PM)
Where is the exact location btw?
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Opposite Seni, beside Tiffani
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post Apr 11 2013, 10:49 PM

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QUOTE(B.Angela @ Apr 11 2013, 07:10 PM)
Yes and above all reason it is Pavilion brand for me.
That stretch is all pure residential and free from Commercial activity yet walking distance to many commercial outlet.
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Which condo are u staying at now?..... What makes u purchase a condo now, or u hav always been looking out?
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post Apr 12 2013, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(B.Angela @ Apr 12 2013, 10:17 AM)
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I jus wanted to understand purchaser's mentality & decision now.... Basing on your sharing u seems to hav done some substantial homework as u say u stay in MK, however there is also a lot of speculation market may come for a correction too.... So what's the drive or urge to purchase a luxury condo now?
This may help to boost up MK luxury condo's sales ya..... tongue.gif tongue.gif
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post Apr 12 2013, 02:09 PM

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QUOTE(B.Angela @ Apr 12 2013, 12:42 PM)
ok  smile.gif  For me it's very simple , I looked around (but excused me for using bubbles to describe it but others may call it increase in price)

1. KLCC - 100% to 300% bubbles
2. PJ area - 100% to 200% bubbles
3. Cyberjaya - 100% to 200% bubbles
4. Other Klang valley suburbs: 100 to 300% bubbles
5. Bangsar - 30% to 50% bubbles
6. Mont Kiara - 10% to 30% bubbles
(all price based on new launch prices and not resale since 2010)

I picked the one with less bubbles- in case it burst, I also foresee a lot of momentum for MK 3 to 5 years down the road and I am a bit brand-concious (not too much  sweat.gif ) and I like MK so this is my natural choice.  biggrin.gif
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100%-300% means price increased since 2010?
KLCC I doubt got increase so much in average ya...
But I do agree this reverse analysis.... Tat is also the reason why I'm monitoring more closely on MK lately.....
Good job... wink.gif
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post Apr 12 2013, 02:19 PM

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Investing in luxury condo u shldnt be concern of rental yield. If rental yield is your concern then I would say tat one shld look elsewhere. Luxury condo is not suitable for every dollars to be calculate investors. If u do not hav deep pocket, forget it.
Able to purchase a luxury condo usually this group of player are less concern of that monthly rental collection. Or I would say there are already a substantial group even got no intention to rent out.
For the reason I say got potential, do read back past post.... tongue.gif
Anyway this is also not my game.... tongue.gif

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post Apr 12 2013, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(The Jedi @ Apr 12 2013, 02:24 PM)
1200psf considered luxury? My read your luxury definition is 900psf, MK address, Pavillion branding and only for those gullible water fish with deep pockets to keep this in the stamp album. Phew luckily I am not in this luxury group
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1200sf luxury or not depend on individual point of view. 1 person staying in 1200sf can it become or consider luxury?
My post states tat this is luxury condo, didnt specifically state tat 1200sf is luxury.
i says 1200sf is potential because its rare find for such size in that neighborhood....
I never consider property purchaser as water fish or not.... Everybody purchase property for their own reason, which other may not understand too.... Not everybody view things in a similar angle, do respect others ppl decision. The end.
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post Apr 14 2013, 08:41 PM

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So many newly registered member promoting and showing interest in this project?
If one is really keen, he/she shld go to the sales office themselves to find out more..... I bet nobody make a buying decision just by hearing what other ppl say... And if one is really that interested or keen in a project, he/she will definitely make an effort to go to the sales office.
I do hav good impression towards this project, however, seeing how new member hijack this thread really leave me some bad impression.
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post Apr 15 2013, 01:00 PM

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QUOTE(hunterlim @ Apr 15 2013, 12:46 PM)
I believed many here just like me have been readiog lowyat post for very long time but do not have the initiatives to register because they do not see any property that interest them, so possibly like me , they finally see the push factor for them to register and ask question since Pavilion MK is now seeing by many as a  flagship development that will bring MK to the next level.
Just my analogy I could be wrong.. hmm.gif  hmm.gif
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I do wish I'm wrong too.....
If sales staff or which other related to the development acting as interested buyer jus bring down the overall image of the project and developer.
I'm a believer in quality product shld come with quality marketing.
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post Apr 15 2013, 04:05 PM

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QUOTE(abo0804 @ Apr 15 2013, 02:43 PM)
so, anyone know pavilion quality?
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Few years back when I go see the completed Pavillion KL Residence, I'll gauge their quality as average only. Lots of flooring problems.
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post Apr 15 2013, 04:30 PM

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QUOTE(hunterlim @ Apr 15 2013, 04:07 PM)
so tell me more......
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U sound more like defending them then enquiring more.... smile.gif
Nevertheless, I speak on my personal experience... I remember one of the block was selling by DTZ as it was enblock sold to one company and they sub sale out (if I don't remember wrongly).... Viewed a few units, mostly flooring doesn't come with good finishing and lots of crack can be seen.
Didnt buy end up, thou not simply because of flooring but dislike the room size, too small. That's it.

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post Apr 17 2013, 11:09 AM

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QUOTE(tat3179 @ Apr 17 2013, 10:57 AM)
But it is fun poking at someone that is vested...man the reaction that you get for them to justify their purchase... biggrin.gif

All you have to do is to start saying "X is better than Y, in my opinion" or "I feel more comfortable investing in X", watch the fireworks go off.... biggrin.gif
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Fuyooh.... Miss 2 day only got 8 pages of debating ya.... laugh.gif
So its jus like how u defend or justify your e-Tiara at 66xpsf also la? tongue.gif
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post Apr 17 2013, 11:50 AM

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QUOTE(tat3179 @ Apr 17 2013, 11:29 AM)
Simple:

1. I can afford it.

2. 5.6% return...not great but then again, you tell me where I can get 7%-8% return on subsales nowadays.  biggrin.gif

3. SJCC and Kecana Square future development in 2017.

4. only 6 other condos in the vicinity, I think supply max 2000 units in total in that area

5. Extremely easy to rent out based on its 5 year track record, mix of students, some expats and some working professional adults. 99% occupancy.

6. 3 very established private colleges within walking distance. 3 more within 30 min max driving or/public transport.

7. Vibrant middle level to upper level working class people to rent out

8. LRT, commuter, BRT and Sime Darby's Bus Hub plan for SJCC, right at the condo's doorstep, all integreted. LRT and commuter within 5 min walking distance

9. Direct access to Federal, NPE, Kesas and easy reach to LDP

10. 2 famous and successful malls plus 1 hypermarket within walking distance. 1 big one within 30 min drive away.

11. Next to the SS15 commercial center.

12. The best maintained of the 3 Tiaras, with the reputation of having the best tenants.

So tell me, does this justify my purchase of the 660 sf?
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There u go again..... tongue.gif
No time to entertain u these days.... Focusing on other market now.... tongue.gif Some others will still probably entertain u.... 😜
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QUOTE(forceGMike @ Apr 17 2013, 03:40 PM)
Lets do a side-by-side comparison since this is the only 2 development at the moment in the centre of Mont Kiara:
                        Acroris  MK    /    Pavilion Hilltop MK
Developer            Sunrise Bhd        /                ???? aka Pavilion
Type                        Mix                /                  Residential
Tenure                    F.H                /                    F.H
Address              Jln Kiara 1            /                Jln Changkat Duta
Acre                        6 acres          /                    5.8 acres
Total units              1,204 Units    /                    621 units
Average price            950 psf      /                      950 psf
(after discount)
Selling point:        Achitecture by Foster & partner & by Sunrise  /          Top of the MK hill & Pavilion Brand
                         

Concept:                  Modern living          /            ??????

Previous development:  MK10 & Solaris Dutamas    /  Pavilion Residence and Pavilion KL Shopping mall
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Financial package:          DIBS                /                DIBS
Car park smalles unit:        1                    /                  2
Maintanence charges          0.35 psf        /                  0.25 psf
Facilities :                      Skypool, wading pool  /          ?????
Service provided:                ????                  /                  ????
Amenities:        Close to future Hotel, Plaza shopping mall & Int school  /            Retails lot and dining
                         
Pls fill in the "??????" section  anyone???
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Personally I don't see Arcoris and Pavillion is a fair comparison....
Pavilion shld compare with the neighbour completed project such as, SENI, KIARAVILLE, TIFFANI.... All are Residents project.

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