After all, it is EHP that matters.

is only worth on high MPs right? cuz on low MP we don't use cull the weak. or am i wrong???

My solo farming has only been on MP0, for high MP I tend to coop. The follower's freeze has a little bit of utility, but not all that much. Like freezing lasher elites so they don't run about so much, or freezing ghouls so they don't break your town portal spell

i see.. well i wanted to utilize cull the weak passive on high MPs so i thought buriz scoundrel might be good..

sold my Manti for 84.5m... lucky still worth that much. .. bought it for 72m 2-3 weeks ago...lose a bit gold..



This post has been edited by Sabenarian: Feb 12 2013, 12:48 AM

I'm surprised actually. I sold mine with 1109 dps with LS for 150M.. that was a month back if i'm not mistaken. I guess the price dropped quite drastically.

yo deckard, your manti is awesome man. How much was it?

i made a comparison with mine. i lose 6k DPS with yours BUT i think yours is way way cheaper right? i feel ripped off!!!!

too much dupe i guess.. all aim for 2 socket manti now..

Actually i didn't spend a single dime.. i bought a UNID for 11M and that was my lottery. LUL . Its one of those super lucky roll with crazy high dps... its not something everyone gets so you're money is not wasted. What are the chances of rolling such a high dps mantis? If i didn't get this one, I would've spend the same amount of gold you did to get one with about the same DPS as yours.

yeah, i think the dupes really killed a the market. Also with marquise ruby coming soon, everyone's getting a dual soc manti so they could slot in 1 ruby and 1 emerald. hehe

thats why i fast fast sell that manti...later sure no value..onli using 2m Calamity now for public game..

Yah been doin trading on 2 soc int manti also
that's why i say "Don underestimate the power of int manti"....lol

not all ppl have billion gold in their stash...and dump one or two billion to just buy 1 gear..
so majority ppl will look for other stuff..

that's where int 2 soc manti come in...

credit to Dragonslayer for opening my eye..

yeah...Dex onli give small DPS... as long as DPS and CD is high, non Dex Manti also good..

This post has been edited by Sabenarian: Feb 12 2013, 02:57 AM

1 DEX gives me 93.54 DPS. I don't think the DPS from say 190 dex is small la..

NO larr.. Dex definitely gives a big boost to dps. My mantis comes with high dps hence giving me a super dps boost even with intel stats. Furthermore, it's cheaper compared to the dex ones.

i realize one thing with mantis.. The ones with higher min dmg is better.

I never noticed it. Anyways, besides mantis, I still got a ton of upgrades to go... 1 at a time i guess.

yeah im getting more consistent dmg ouput with hatred spenders now.

so the higher the min the better and sometimes say 1322 dps has 830 min, and 1310 has 870 min, the later is better..

+1... like my Barbarian weapon now.. my Main hand don have STR, but it boost my dps like 7k from my previous weapon (9xx dps + STR and Vit).. so i use it... if Str mace price insanely high for that kind of DPS..

This post has been edited by Sabenarian: Feb 12 2013, 07:26 AM

wow just got my scoundrel a buriza and saw ur question
yeah recently I was playing solo most of the time, so thinking to utilize my followers
got a buriza with 11.7 freeze only, the result was quite awesome

I'm doing mp4 run most of the time, yeah the freeze isn't significant on trash mobs, but is good for elites using spiked traps.

stacked scoundrel amulets with AS and LOH (>2000), and I noticed he won't die most of the time (other than fallen maniacs), thus able to use blind skill instead of hide-and-self-heal skill

didn't buy star of az, too expensive to spend on followers. ~13 freeze is pretty sufficient imo

btw, any cold dmg bow will activate cull the weak passive right? going for buriza to activate is expensive.. unless wanna fully utilize it, try higher % pierce instead (with lower % freeze, if money is a probl.... wait)

still trying to boost my scoundrel ehp.. any suggestion? strength?

er.. what did I do?

I should thank you for opening my eyes.. for int manti.. and that % dmg affix (where higher % dmg affix gives higher dps if socket with ruby)


good point there. I also value avg dmg too.. say 1322dps has 1000 avg dmg, 1310 has 1030, I prefer the later one cause higher black dmg