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TSparanoid
post Apr 9 2013, 11:55 AM

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QUOTE(wira4ce @ Apr 8 2013, 05:20 PM)
used paypal more than 10 years. recurrent payment wont happen in diablo 3, it only happen if u set it or u puchase item online that u had agree to make recurrent. therefore in your case it is not diablo fault. it was ur paypal who had been compromised. which i suspected that the thief use it for their diablo purchase. nothing to do with diablo use it unauthorized. that how i believe. or maybe u use some kind of application for your diablo such cheat (which most people fall into trap) who actually act as keylogger to log ur paypal password.
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actually you got it wrong.

i mentioned that i only created a paypal account for diablo. solely for diablo3 gaming purposes, because i had to route my earnings somewhere.

my paypal was NEVER used to purchase anything, anywhere. it's only used to RECEIVE my earnings from diablo3 transactions, HENCE my suspicion that i only narrow it down to either paypal or blizzard to be the rootcause of this fraud.

for this fraud, the hacker had emptied my balance to buy something from a jersey seller and created a recurrent payment, because all these details are being sent to my email.
nothing was purchased out of blizzard store.

keylogger is impossible, i've only played d3 on my personal pc.
on whether i used any application or hack, any experienced d3 player in this forum will know the kind of player i am.
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post Apr 9 2013, 12:23 PM

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I've noticed that you're not very active playing Diablo 3 game anymore; is it due to this bad PayPal experience?

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post Apr 9 2013, 01:05 PM

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QUOTE(MOBAJOBG @ Apr 9 2013, 12:23 PM)
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I've noticed that you're not very active playing Diablo 3 game anymore; is it due to this bad PayPal experience?
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hi im taking a short break because im currently expecting smile.gif
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post Apr 9 2013, 01:08 PM

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post Apr 9 2013, 04:20 PM

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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Apr 9 2013, 01:08 PM)
how does you buying or selling something via d3 rmah, gives other people access to setup recurring payments ?

Doesn't make sense :/

i think it's more likely your account got compromised via another method, most likely by installing some funny stuff on your pc rig which got your account key logged for hackers to use doh.gif
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yah. that what I am thinking. there is no way playing diablo alone will enable hacker to get paypal account. unless he using same password for all his accounts.
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post Apr 9 2013, 05:24 PM

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QUOTE(wira4ce @ Apr 9 2013, 04:20 PM)
yah. that what I am thinking. there is no way playing diablo alone will enable hacker to get paypal account. unless he using same password for all his accounts.
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im not trying to find the rootcause, since i've already got my refund back from paypal.
my best guess is that the problem lies within paypal (hacked) and somehow i was one of the unlucky one, OR via blizzard (since my account details were stored there, paypal and credit card details)

to make things clear, again,
my d3 account wasn't compromised, nothing was taken out, my balance in my RMAH was still there.
nothing happened to my d3. it's my paypal account that was compromised.

and to avoid confusion, i explained that the money stored in my paypal account comes solely from my d3 RMAH earnings. this account has never accessed, bought anything from any website..etc.
which in the end makes me think the problem comes from blizzard or paypal only.

the recurring payment can be set via paypal to another 3rd party. simple as that. nothing to do with d3 account.

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post Apr 10 2013, 10:05 PM

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post Apr 11 2013, 09:50 AM

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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Apr 10 2013, 10:05 PM)
well i've bought and sold on d3 rmah.

from my own observation,
when i buy, it gives me options. so i select paypal balance (the money stored in the paypal account. Not to be billed to credit or debit card.)

i get a receipt saying i was billed this much for what item.
When i sell, i get an email saying i've received payment for so and so item.
then again i don't mess around with the paypal website settings for my account to setup recurring payments whatsoever :/ so maybe it's something i'm missing that would allow a buyer or seller to exploit d3 paypal in some way ?
or maybe you set your settings wrongly ? or somehow your paypal account got hacked ? because if it was your blizzard account that was hacked, you would get notifications for items you just bought, unless they managed to change your blizzard email to somebody elses, at which point you won't know somebody purchased something using your paypal which is linked to your diablo 3 account.

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lol, why is it so hard to understand.
one fine day i received 2emails from paypal, 1 is a notification of purchase from something thailand merchant, and the other one to inform me i have successfully created a recurrent payment to the same merchant's account. simple as that.

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post Apr 12 2013, 12:08 AM

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post Apr 12 2013, 09:53 AM

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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Apr 12 2013, 12:08 AM)
what are the steps to set a recurring payment for diablo 3 purchases on auction house. That is what i'm asking :/

seeing as that is what you were accussing of initially in your thread  rolleyes.gif  what so hard to understand about that lulz..

as you were also implying the reason recurring payments by unknown was happening was due to a breach on blizzards side via d3 paypal rmah somehow ... hence why i ask you to clarify if that really is the case, which now just seems like a bunch of crok  doh.gif
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lol if you could just spend some time to read what i wrote in my initial and subsequent posts.

why do you need to know the steps to set a recurring payment for diablo3 on the auction house? my case is not related to any recurring payment in/out to diablo3 auction house at all.
did you know u can set recurring payments in paypal to anyone?


say you updated a personal bank info into one (ONLY one) website. the next thing you know that particular information was used for a frauds case, you've been charged. so tell me WHERE would you suspect the breach comes from?

 

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