Our Malaysia total competitive league matches per season (26) is still low compare to AFC champions league requirement (33)

-If let say the current state team rebrand as the city team representative where their home match location,( Selangor -> Shah Alam Red Giants, Kelantan ->Kota bahru Red Warriors)
-new city/town teams establish by leader of the community and supported by the community.
-current private company team encourage to represent a city/town that is not represented by current state team(PKNS-> Petaling Jaya PKNS)
-There are more than 50 cities in malaysia enough for 3 tier competitive league.
-reserve players for major team have opportunity to have first team foobal by loaning players to new city teams.

do you think it is moving forward or going backwards for our football league future?

we got only 12 team(more like 11+1. 11 malaysian team +LionsXII) partly because of Malaysia cup. league finished around july and malaysia cup will commenced around august. with this season where every teams in super league and premier league can compete, all team will get more competitive match,instead of previous seasons' format

about the state's team. i don't really against it,it's our state's pride. but what i want to see is the state FA to be fully incorporated and the team separates itself from FA (such as Kafa). more clubs do comes around,and these clubs actually fared better than some state teams

more pressing issues in malaysia's football that need to be addressed are
1-new top leadership(obviously)
2-state FAs and clubs to give more attention to grassroot football (more than prez cup squad)
3-incorporation of state FAs (who are too dependant on FAM and state government funds)

currently this is the hurdle that we need to solve before going to next level(that is to become relevent in asian stage)

I believe we have 14 teams in the super league?

http://www.malaysiansuperleague.com/mlt.asp?t=SL

still it does not qualify malaysian team to enter AFC champions as currently our league have only 26 league matches (not including cup matches) compared to required 33 league matchs (not including cup matches).

i believe we should leave our state pride for a while and make a new pride which is city pride.

clubs should pick a city/town to represent rather than represent a company on their own. if company bankrupts, club team will dissolve.
but if club team chooses a city team (basically like a main sponsor/administrator for the city team), town team can still continueexist maybe just need new sponsor.

If we stick with interstate environment competition. there's no way we would be able to enter AFC champions league since there's only 14 states.

This post has been edited by tebong: Jan 13 2013, 04:26 PM

With only 12 teams in super league, the fixtures already really pack. They play twice almost every week. And I know its due to fasting month and malaysia cup. If we are going to increase teams in super league to make them able play 33 league games, it just look impossible to arrange matches.

However if we take a look at europe league, most league got 20 teams. They also have cup competition plus the continental competition. But they only play once a week and some league even have winter break. And they have 3 months break between seasons.

The only solutions might be to change the format of Malaysia Cup and play it in the middle of league season.

not enough football player in malaysia... lack of football academy...
f.a.m did very little in youth development....

yet the president say his service is still needed.

malaysia needs new faces

This post has been edited by anip94: Jan 13 2013, 04:55 PM

someone need to resign

either scrap the FA cup and change them with Malaysia cup, or scrap Malaysia cup altogher(which will invoke wrath to everyone,players,FAs and fans alike).

i think 12 is reasonable for the time being. with less teams playing,i think it will increase the quality of the team participation. our prob right now is to increase the quality and competitiveness of existing teams

btw,as much as i hate FAM,the lack of football academy is state FAs fault. hell state FAs are actually hoping the FAM to supply them with talented players,not the other way around.

like i said in other thread,they overspend their budet on recruiting ready made player and shyt is given on developing grassroot football. grassroot means 15 years and under. not under-21,not under-19(prez cup)

Agree on grassroots. Basics important. Not just cincai train a fella within a year or less who learn all wrong stuff ,then hope he can be ronaldo..

Theres actually more to football than just playing games week in week out, need training fitness, strength, agility, even nutrition gotta take care. Also tactics hv to be taught.. Thats if wanna play pro level. If wanna play weekend league then of course all this optional.

This post has been edited by arsenwagon: Jan 13 2013, 07:24 PM

When u say about the league schedule, .i just found out another criteria that we are short in order for our super league teams entering AFC champions league
which is we are short of 8 month minimum top league season. Super league is only 7 months..

Yes i do agree malaysia cup should play along the league season. all cup finals will be played after league season completed.

This post has been edited by tebong: Jan 13 2013, 09:31 PM

Not all afc champions league requirement is suitable for all asian nations.

Singapore league for example is not able to survive wihout invitational teams. They also cannot do a relegation system either.

On our part , malaysia cup is more prestegious than even the league. That is our unique characteristic. That is the demand of our fan base. So between the malaysia cup, national team training teams ( we are also reviving merdeka cup this year) , the ramadhan month , afc cup and all, its just not possible to expand the league. Belive me. I tried it.

Just because we have a short league it does not mean we lack conpetetive matches. We are playing 9 matches per month for a few months strecth at times. Afc should take that into account.


But reducing the number of teams to 12 also qualified us to one afc requirement witch is 50% of the matches must be shown live on tv. right now astro are showing 2 matches and rtm show 1 matches each round.

This post has been edited by aressandro10: Jan 14 2013, 01:13 AM

Thanx for the comments on the total league matches requirement.

How about the idea of changing the state teams into city team where their team created and create opportunities for other cities to establish team.

for example on east coast, its a pity that only 2 teams competeing (Sarawak and Sabah). if let say it changes to kuching fc and kk united, other cities create their on FA, would it be a positive improvement on our football league structure or going downwards?

More clubs but shitty players in the end become shitty league nobody wants to watch.

Like amateur sunday league

To make sure all the ideas and suggestion in this thread, Presiden FAM and corupt members need to resign first!

Again this depend on supply and demand of the market fan base.

People are just saying that district based club are better. But stadium attendance wise, there are more demand for state base club compare to district base. Somepeople somewhere are not walking their talk.

There are no resistance at all from fam for develpment of district based clubs. We have history of clubs from kuala muda, pj, kuala terenganu and pasir gudang in the league.

But by branding yourself to a district club instead of state, you not only limiting your fanbase but your possible sponsors as well. You need to have at least consistent weekly attendance of 15k to be healthy and independant. As a result most of the district teams bailed out due to financial difficulties and pasir gudang and k.terengganu rebrand themselves as state team to survive.

There is also the issue of stringent internatonal stadium standard imposed by fam making playing league matches outside state capital not possible in some states.

I wish kuantan fc and tumpat fc who is playing in fam league this year good luck and long live.

This post has been edited by aressandro10: Jan 14 2013, 11:28 AM