QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Jan 7 2014, 10:39 PM)
The jerking of the Focus is not really as serious as some might have implied. No doubt it's there during low speed gear change, but it is quite subtle in most cases, ie. light footwork. The jerks are only more prominent when you step harder on the pedal. It's just like when you want the car to accelerate quicker and you floor the pedal. The vehicle will lunge forward and jerk more strongly when changing gears.
Sometimes the jerks will inject some adrenaline into the drive too. If one loves speed and a sportier drive, the jerks during hard acceleration may give an exhilarating feel to the driver. Imagine the whole body being pushed strongly to the seat when the driver steps hard on the pedal as he feels the gears upshifting with each and every jerks. The car just feels lively with the jerks.
There are some cars with transmissions that are as smooth as butter, mostly vehicles that operate on CVT. I've owned and driven 3 vehicles with CVTs that drive smoothly - Nissan Sylphy, Mitsubishi Pajero Sport and Proton Preve Turbo. Minimal or no jerks in all driving conditions. Nevertheless, the aspects that I don't like about these vehicles are they felt HEAVY and slightly lethargic, and there is a slight lag between the moment one steps on the pedal and the moment the car starts to accelerate, especially in low speed acceleration. In comparison, the Ford Focus felt light.
Apart from the impressive specs on paper (high horsepower and torque numbers in the 2.0-litre engine), I believe the Powershift transmission plays a major part in contributing to the powerful (jerky) acceleration of the Focus which in turn gave it a "light" feel on the roads. The Nissan Sylphy and particularly the Proton Preve Turbo and Mitsubishi Pajero Sport feel "heavy" even though it drives smoothly.
If choosing between the jerky Focus and the smooth Preve Turbo, Sylphy and Pajero Sport, I would definitely pick the Focus for its lightness during acceleration.
Of course, handling and driving dynamics are another matter. :-)
Personally I think the Focus suits those who prefer a more sporty drive. Sometimes, some jerks are good too. A livelier drive, more life. A drive that is as smooth as butter may be a bit boring and bland, in my opinion. Horses for courses.
All I can say is, drive it to believe it!Sometimes the jerks will inject some adrenaline into the drive too. If one loves speed and a sportier drive, the jerks during hard acceleration may give an exhilarating feel to the driver. Imagine the whole body being pushed strongly to the seat when the driver steps hard on the pedal as he feels the gears upshifting with each and every jerks. The car just feels lively with the jerks.
There are some cars with transmissions that are as smooth as butter, mostly vehicles that operate on CVT. I've owned and driven 3 vehicles with CVTs that drive smoothly - Nissan Sylphy, Mitsubishi Pajero Sport and Proton Preve Turbo. Minimal or no jerks in all driving conditions. Nevertheless, the aspects that I don't like about these vehicles are they felt HEAVY and slightly lethargic, and there is a slight lag between the moment one steps on the pedal and the moment the car starts to accelerate, especially in low speed acceleration. In comparison, the Ford Focus felt light.
Apart from the impressive specs on paper (high horsepower and torque numbers in the 2.0-litre engine), I believe the Powershift transmission plays a major part in contributing to the powerful (jerky) acceleration of the Focus which in turn gave it a "light" feel on the roads. The Nissan Sylphy and particularly the Proton Preve Turbo and Mitsubishi Pajero Sport feel "heavy" even though it drives smoothly.
If choosing between the jerky Focus and the smooth Preve Turbo, Sylphy and Pajero Sport, I would definitely pick the Focus for its lightness during acceleration.
Of course, handling and driving dynamics are another matter. :-)
Personally I think the Focus suits those who prefer a more sporty drive. Sometimes, some jerks are good too. A livelier drive, more life. A drive that is as smooth as butter may be a bit boring and bland, in my opinion. Horses for courses.
QUOTE(dares @ Jan 7 2014, 08:24 PM)
It's understandable. I've driven the normal torque converters, CVT, now the dual-clutch.....they all have different characteristics that needs to be adapted to with different driving styles. That's why I always say, don't blindly jump on the bandwagon because you heard Focus handling how good the dual clutch how awesome, it's not suitable for everyone. If my dad drives my car in a jam he will curse it to heck.
But if you're like me, you will get used to it soon and can naturally compensate for the eccentricities without giving much thought to it. At one point I was switching between an old 4AT, a CVT and the DCT regularly and didn't think much about the differences, my feet automatically just knows which car I'm driving and adjusts accordingly
how long it took you before it became a habit to you?But if you're like me, you will get used to it soon and can naturally compensate for the eccentricities without giving much thought to it. At one point I was switching between an old 4AT, a CVT and the DCT regularly and didn't think much about the differences, my feet automatically just knows which car I'm driving and adjusts accordingly
QUOTE(blinky @ Jan 7 2014, 06:55 PM)
Hahaha over 100 pages already and still talking about the jerking "problem". One of the reasons why I hardly visit this thread anymore, it's the same ol' rant over and over again.
People, it's NOT A PROBLEM, it's how dual clutch transmission WORKS!
It's a Ford Focus, it has a prestigious heritage, it drives well, handles brilliantly and it's the best selling car in the world right now. Get into your car, start the engine, floor the flippin' pedal, tackle all the corners you want and just enjoy your ride.
I can't even feel the "grinding noises" or the "jerking" anymore because the sheer adrenaline this car gives me more than compensates these CHARACTERISTICS.
Maybe I should stop visiting this thread like you bro, lol, I just have to keep stressing how good the safety features we can get in this Focus for the price we pay, it's the best value for money car you can get for now in Malaysia in this price range.People, it's NOT A PROBLEM, it's how dual clutch transmission WORKS!
It's a Ford Focus, it has a prestigious heritage, it drives well, handles brilliantly and it's the best selling car in the world right now. Get into your car, start the engine, floor the flippin' pedal, tackle all the corners you want and just enjoy your ride.
I can't even feel the "grinding noises" or the "jerking" anymore because the sheer adrenaline this car gives me more than compensates these CHARACTERISTICS.
Jan 8 2014, 02:33 PM

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