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tz916m
post Jan 6 2014, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(craving @ Jan 6 2014, 02:35 PM)
My FoFo grinding sound is very frequent and the jerking is getting from bad to worse. Closing to 18k km now sad.gif been browsing US Ford forum and seems equally bad over there with no solution.
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What did Ford techs said bout ur problems? Hopefully they have a solution.

The DCT drivetrain is the main issue which stop potential Focus buyers cold in their tracks.

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post Jan 6 2014, 04:04 PM

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QUOTE(pin86 @ Jan 6 2014, 11:08 AM)
The lesser used on sale means it is really a good car rclxms.gif
No people wan to let go such a charm icon_idea.gif

Not sure if the cash rebate promo is still on.
If it is, get new instead:
Interest is lower
U get to choose the color u want
U get the peace of mind not worrying the car condition
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The only reason I can think off, why would anyone let go such a nice car is that, the DCT itself, the grinding sounds & the not so smooth gear changing...

QUOTE(tz916m @ Jan 6 2014, 02:19 PM)
Hi 0304125, i ordered mine from Trio Mantap. They only have white & silver on hand. If it's these two colours, should get it quite fast, which unfortunately is not the colour I ordered. Thanks anyway.

Think chances to become part of this group is slim. May go for my 2nd choice instead, the new Mazda3, if I have to wait anyway. Another gorgeous car with good handling. 2014 has plethora of new C-segment cars line-up, especially Japs. Ford will see a challenging  year to move its C-segment. The Focus is still niche here where T & H are still revered, I dun know, for their 'kosong'ness? yawn.gif

Check out Paul Tan's driven of Focus, Cerato and Civic shootout. Civic selling at>RM136K with manual aircond, lightings and Ah Bengs on the street still go googly-eyed over this car rolleyes.gif . Although I do find the exterior looks good though.

Saw from other car sites the Focus FL would look like the electric one, with the Aston Martin-ed nose, possibly new rear lamp cluster and centre console buttons.
How do you guys find the often panned centre console button complications?
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Aiks, Mazda3 is the only Jap car worth looking in Malaysia, but I doubt the safety features will be as rich as Ford smile.gif

QUOTE(craving @ Jan 6 2014, 02:35 PM)
My FoFo grinding sound is very frequent and the jerking is getting from bad to worse. Closing to 18k km now sad.gif been browsing US Ford forum and seems equally bad over there with no solution.
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Same to me, it's only about 3k+ mileage... haiz.
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post Jan 6 2014, 04:17 PM

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QUOTE(styloh @ Jan 3 2014, 10:03 AM)
I'm experiencing low gear jerk (car like want to leap forward lol)
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Yes, the vehicle is pretty restless at low speeds.


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post Jan 6 2014, 04:27 PM

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QUOTE(Dwango @ Jan 6 2014, 04:17 PM)
Yes, the vehicle is pretty restless at low speeds.
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worst than restless, whenever i see slopes am very worry especially with passengers. My family members already asking if I made a bad purchase *sigh*.
I like the Focus since first generation and didnt expect this to haunt me.
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post Jan 6 2014, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(tz916m @ Jan 6 2014, 04:01 PM)
What did Ford techs said bout ur problems? Hopefully they have a solution.

The DCT drivetrain is the main issue which stop potential Focus buyers cold in their tracks.
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Car tested n was told it is the car characteristic.
I was fuming mad with the answer but nothing much I can do. On slope the car alwiz feel like dying half way. Wasted my AL just to have my car checked over n over again.
Ford, you bloody disappointed me!
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post Jan 6 2014, 04:41 PM

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Is it the gearbox jerking symptom same as fofi gearbox jerk? Mine (fofi got such issue around 8k km, and it is gone after 28k++ km, now the drive-ability is like normal auto car without jerking anymore. *Touch Wood*
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post Jan 6 2014, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(coconutzz @ Jan 5 2014, 08:31 PM)
Hi all,

Just dropped by to take a look at the Fofo titanium...it's really beautiful...I haven't test driven the car cos I was rushing...

Currently I m on a vios...I m just concern that the rear seats are a little narrow on leg space...apart from that the interior n exterior are really good...

Will do the test drive maybe next week or so...meanwhile, went thru 119 pages of comments...phewwww....

Would u guys recommend a hatchback or a sedan? Is there a new 2014 model coming out?

Overall, I know it's stupid to ask, but I'll ask again, is this car worth every penny (just wanna convince myself further)? Hehe...hope to hear from you all

Thanks
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Hatchback if you prefer a more sportier and aggressive driving capabilities. It definitely handles better than the sedan especially in cornering with less body roll, and more stable drive with the larger wheels. Slightly less comfortable than the sedan due to larger 17" rims.

Sedan if you need the boot space which is more practical for a family man with kids since there may be a lot of luggage to carry around with the wife and kids. Handling although may not match the hatchback is equally good if compared to other sedans around. Slightly more comfortable due to higher profile tyres/smaller 16" rims.

Other than that, you get beige leather seats with sedan and mostly black fabric/leather with hatchback. A matter of taste and preference on this one.
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post Jan 6 2014, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(craving @ Jan 6 2014, 04:33 PM)
Car tested n was told it is the car characteristic.
I was fuming mad with the answer but nothing much I can do. On slope the car alwiz feel like dying half way. Wasted my AL just to have my car checked over n over again.
Ford, you bloody disappointed me!
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shakehead.gif Oh my. From my readings, the usual solutions are:
1) Ford: Update the DCT software
2) Ford: Check the clutch assy
3) Owner: Re-learn right foot technique. No idea how cos me not Focus owner. Owners may want to help here.

Guess Focus is a car for driving (read:keep moving). If buy to use in city (read:slow crawl), then wrong car. Now I'm leaning more towards not signing my bank agreement and wait for the Mazda3 instead. Conti handling with Jap reliability. Really wanted to like the Focus but DCT issues mentioned here and other places keep erecting the 'dun buy' fence for me.
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post Jan 6 2014, 04:48 PM

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QUOTE(craving @ Jan 6 2014, 04:33 PM)
Car tested n was told it is the car characteristic.
I was fuming mad with the answer but nothing much I can do. On slope the car alwiz feel like dying half way. Wasted my AL just to have my car checked over n over again.
Ford, you bloody disappointed me!
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Hi all,
I'm facing the same problem -grinding sound and jerking whenever on the slope crossing the hump since the day one.
Complaint to SDAC Jalan Ipoh, update the software on May 13, the grinding and jerking was reduced.
Most surprise me when went for 20k mileage service. i have a very smooth drive - no grinding and jerking for 2 weeks and the problem back again, but for me, it is still tolerable.

Since then, I test with different petrol station and notice some differences
1. Petron - jerking and grinding is always there and the sound is loud.
2. Caltex - slight grinding, still within my torelance. But recently the grinding and jerking went worse and horrible. Suspect "contamination" on oil tank on the same Caltex station that has went for renovation and stop operation for 3 weeks.
3. BHP - switch to BHP TTDI last week, the grinding is minor, jerking is gone. Still under evalaution. hopefully it is the right petrol for my FoFo.

My car mileage now is around 26000km.

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post Jan 6 2014, 04:57 PM

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QUOTE(craving @ Jan 6 2014, 04:27 PM)
worst than restless, whenever i see slopes am very worry especially with passengers. My family members already asking if I made a bad purchase *sigh*.
I like the Focus since first generation and didnt expect this to haunt me.
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I guess it is only grinding sound at slopes. The jerks only happen at low speeds especially at bumps.

Yes, I agree if one is used to the smooth transmission of Japanese makes, or with low tolerance toward the jerkiness in the transmission at low speeds, then the Ford Focus is not a very good choice. The jerk is inherent in the vehicle, and the only way to control it is to be very careful with the pedal when at the bumps or at low speeds. But sometimes, the car will still jerk even if you are very careful with the footwork. Just something that we have to live with in the Powershift transmission.
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post Jan 6 2014, 05:01 PM

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QUOTE(jameshy @ Jan 6 2014, 04:48 PM)
Hi all,
I'm facing the same problem -grinding sound and jerking whenever on the slope crossing the hump since the day one.
Complaint to SDAC Jalan Ipoh, update the software on May 13, the grinding and jerking was reduced.
Most surprise me when went for 20k mileage service. i have a very smooth drive - no grinding and jerking for 2 weeks and the problem back again, but for me, it is still tolerable.

Since then, I test with different petrol station and notice some differences
1. Petron - jerking and grinding is always there and the sound is loud.
2. Caltex - slight grinding, still within my torelance. But recently the grinding and jerking went worse and horrible. Suspect "contamination" on oil tank on the same Caltex station that has went for renovation and stop operation for 3 weeks.
3. BHP - switch to BHP TTDI last week, the grinding is minor, jerking is gone. Still under evalaution. hopefully it is the right petrol for my FoFo.

My car mileage now is around 26000km.
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Will try BHP on next fueling, have no preference though.

This post has been edited by craving: Jan 6 2014, 05:02 PM
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post Jan 6 2014, 05:02 PM

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QUOTE(tz916m @ Jan 6 2014, 04:46 PM)
shakehead.gif Oh my. From my readings, the usual solutions are:
1) Ford: Update the DCT software
2) Ford: Check the clutch assy
3) Owner: Re-learn right foot technique. No idea how cos me not Focus owner. Owners may want to help here.

Guess Focus is a car for driving (read:keep moving). If buy to use in city (read:slow crawl), then wrong car. Now I'm leaning more towards not signing my bank agreement and wait for the Mazda3 instead. Conti handling with Jap reliability. Really wanted to like the Focus but DCT issues mentioned here and other places keep erecting the 'dun buy' fence for me.
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The Focus drives fine in both highways and crawling traffic. I think the main issue is with DRIVER's EXPECTATIONS or TOLERANCE. Some people will be able to live with the minor jerks, some might not.

The new upcoming Mazda3 looks promising but the interior may look a bit bland for some. The steering wheel of the Mazda looks a bit cheap, and I read the price will be above RM130k which is quite a bit overpriced if compared to the Focus.
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post Jan 6 2014, 05:06 PM

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QUOTE(jameshy @ Jan 6 2014, 04:48 PM)
Hi all,
I'm facing the same problem -grinding sound and jerking whenever on the slope crossing the hump since the day one.
Complaint to SDAC Jalan Ipoh, update the software on May 13, the grinding and jerking was reduced.
Most surprise me when went for 20k mileage service. i have a very smooth drive - no grinding and jerking for 2 weeks and the problem back again, but for me, it is still tolerable.

Since then, I test with different petrol station and notice some differences
1. Petron - jerking and grinding is always there and the sound is loud.
2. Caltex - slight grinding, still within my torelance. But recently the grinding and jerking went worse and horrible. Suspect "contamination" on oil tank on the same Caltex station that has went for renovation and stop operation for 3 weeks.
3. BHP - switch to BHP TTDI last week, the grinding is minor, jerking is gone. Still under evalaution. hopefully it is the right petrol for my FoFo.

My car mileage now is around 26000km.
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Slope with speed bumps - this will bring out the worst in the Focus. All grinding sound and jerks will come out.

I only tried Petronas in the first 2,000km. Tried Caltex briefly and now only BHP. BHP feels good without much jerks, but when switching from one fuel to another fuel, the car may show more jerks as it adjusts to the different type of fuel. Better to not change fuels too often I think. Switching from RON95 to RON97 I feel more power but the jerks at low speeds seem a bit stronger. Now back to RON95 as seem to be throwing money with RON97(additional RM30-40 with one full tank).

This post has been edited by Dwango: Jan 6 2014, 05:06 PM
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post Jan 6 2014, 05:59 PM

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QUOTE(craving @ Jan 6 2014, 04:33 PM)
Car tested n was told it is the car characteristic.
I was fuming mad with the answer but nothing much I can do. On slope the car alwiz feel like dying half way. Wasted my AL just to have my car checked over n over again.
Ford, you bloody disappointed me!
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QUOTE(Dwango @ Jan 6 2014, 04:57 PM)
I guess it is only grinding sound at slopes. The jerks only happen at low speeds especially at bumps.

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QUOTE(Dwango @ Jan 6 2014, 05:06 PM)
Slope with speed bumps - this will bring out the worst in the Focus. All grinding sound and jerks will come out.

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OK I'm coming at this from a Fofi, since both uses powershift I thought I'd share and see if this alleviates some of your sufferings.

When coming to a bump on a uphill slope, depending on the situation I employ one of this two techniques:

a) Release the throttle some distance before the bump and let the car reduce speed without using the brakes. This takes some estimation so that the car coast to right up to the bump at the appropriate speed (you normal road bump speed), then apply throttle to cross the bump and continue on. The key here is NO BRAKES.

or

b) If you have to use the brakes to reduce speed before the bump, release the brakes before the bump and ensure enough speed that the car can roll over the bump on it's own momentum (no throttle). Once you have cleared the bump, make sure your speed is slow enough that it is well within the 1st gear, the only throttle and go.

I used to live at the top of a small hill so this two techniques have worked well most of the time.

This post has been edited by dares: Jan 6 2014, 06:01 PM
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post Jan 6 2014, 06:04 PM

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I've booked myself a new Ford Focus. Eagerly waiting for new vehicle to be delivered.
However I'm iin a dilemma about the motor insurance.

My current vehicle carries a NCD is 30% and the next entitlement would be 38.33%. However the next effective date for 38.33% will fall on the 13th March 2014.

Do I get 38.33% now if I buy the new motor insurance or do I have to pay full premium now and only transfer the NCD on the 13th March 2014.

Would be great if someone can enlighten me.

Thanks.
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post Jan 6 2014, 09:12 PM

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Wanna know how's the Ford resell value?
Not that harsh right? Hmmm....
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post Jan 7 2014, 08:52 AM

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QUOTE(Dwango @ Jan 6 2014, 04:17 PM)
Yes, the vehicle is pretty restless at low speeds.
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Yeap, gotta get used to the throttle at low speed to avoid jerking and leaping forward. Normally i would let the car creep while in jam and slowly apply the throttle.


QUOTE(jameshy @ Jan 6 2014, 04:48 PM)
Hi all,
I'm facing the same problem -grinding sound and jerking whenever on the slope crossing the hump since the day one.
Complaint to SDAC Jalan Ipoh, update the software on May 13, the grinding and jerking was reduced.
Most surprise me when went for 20k mileage service. i have a very smooth drive - no grinding and jerking for 2 weeks and the problem back again, but for me, it is still tolerable.

Since then, I test with different petrol station and notice some differences
1. Petron - jerking and grinding is always there and the sound is loud.
2. Caltex - slight grinding, still within my torelance. But recently the grinding and jerking went worse and horrible. Suspect "contamination" on oil tank on the same Caltex station that has went for renovation and stop operation for 3 weeks.
3. BHP - switch to BHP TTDI last week, the grinding is minor, jerking is gone. Still under evalaution. hopefully it is the right petrol for my FoFo.

My car mileage now is around 26000km.
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Hmm... i have been using Esso/Petron since my last two cars. Feels ok, but i have not tested other brands... maybe might improve smile.gif

QUOTE(Dwango @ Jan 6 2014, 04:57 PM)
I guess it is only grinding sound at slopes. The jerks only happen at low speeds especially at bumps.

Yes, I agree if one is used to the smooth transmission of Japanese makes, or with low tolerance toward the jerkiness in the transmission at low speeds, then the Ford Focus is not a very good choice. The jerk is inherent in the vehicle, and the only way to control it is to be very careful with the pedal when at the bumps or at low speeds. But sometimes, the car will still jerk even if you are very careful with the footwork. Just something that we have to live with in the Powershift transmission.
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QUOTE(Dwango @ Jan 6 2014, 05:02 PM)
The Focus drives fine in both highways and crawling traffic. I think the main issue is with DRIVER's EXPECTATIONS or TOLERANCE. Some people will be able to live with the minor jerks, some might not.

The new upcoming Mazda3 looks promising but the interior may look a bit bland for some. The steering wheel of the Mazda looks a bit cheap, and I read the price will be above RM130k which is quite a bit overpriced if compared to the Focus.
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Always been a manual car driver for the last 15 years, so this make it my first "auto" car tongue.gif . Jerks are kinda normal for me while driving FoFo. Just need some getting used to.

New Mazda 3 was one of my targets for a new car. But after looking at the suggested price.... meh...

QUOTE(dares @ Jan 6 2014, 05:59 PM)
OK I'm coming at this from a Fofi, since both uses powershift I thought I'd share and see if this alleviates some of your sufferings.

When coming to a bump on a uphill slope, depending on the situation I employ one of this two techniques:

a) Release the throttle some distance before the bump and let the car reduce speed without using the brakes. This takes some estimation so that the car coast to right up to the bump at the appropriate speed (you normal road bump speed), then apply throttle to cross the bump and continue on. The key here is NO BRAKES.

or

b) If you have to use the brakes to reduce speed before the bump, release the brakes before the bump and ensure enough speed that the car can roll over the bump on it's own momentum (no throttle). Once you have cleared the bump, make sure your speed is slow enough that it is well within the 1st gear, the only throttle and go.

I used to live at the top of a small hill so this two techniques have worked well most of the time.
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That is how i drive as well as my housing area has loads of humps and bump stops. May not permanently fix the issue but it reduces the occurrences dramatically.

So far i am still impressed and loving my FoFo. As for problems, currently i have suspension creaking on the rear passenger side behind the driver and some metal vibration on driver door. Nothing big tho... Cheers!

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post Jan 7 2014, 08:56 AM

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QUOTE(cheongyf @ Jan 6 2014, 06:04 PM)
I've booked myself a new Ford Focus. Eagerly waiting for new vehicle to be delivered.
However I'm iin a dilemma about the motor insurance.

My current vehicle carries a NCD is 30% and the next entitlement would be 38.33%. However the next effective date for 38.33% will fall on the 13th March 2014.

Do I get 38.33% now if I buy the new motor insurance or do I have to pay full premium now and only transfer the NCD on the 13th March 2014.

Would be great if someone can enlighten me.

Thanks.
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Hi,

I bought mine from Trio Mantap, i have 55% insurance NCB which is already maximum and the insurance expiry is Feb 2014. During purchase of my Focus, I will need to pay full insurance premium first. After 3 weeks, the new insurance company will refund back the NCB in a form of a cheque.

So for your case, i think your next entitlement might apply. But be prepared if you are like my case, you may need to pay full premium 1st and get the refund back later. Do check with you sales person, might be different from mine. Cheers!

This post has been edited by vyruzj: Jan 7 2014, 09:00 AM
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post Jan 7 2014, 10:13 AM

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QUOTE(Dwango @ Jan 6 2014, 04:17 PM)
Yes, the vehicle is pretty restless at low speeds.
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an alternative is to use S mode when in such situation where the speed remains below 40kmh... hill/slope with bumps. less or no jerks at all. thumbup.gif
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post Jan 7 2014, 10:17 AM

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QUOTE(Dwango @ Jan 6 2014, 05:06 PM)
Slope with speed bumps - this will bring out the worst in the Focus. All grinding sound and jerks will come out.

I only tried Petronas in the first 2,000km. Tried Caltex briefly and now only BHP. BHP feels good without much jerks, but when switching from one fuel to another fuel, the car may show more jerks as it adjusts to the different type of fuel. Better to not change fuels too often I think. Switching from RON95 to RON97 I feel more power but the jerks at low speeds seem a bit stronger. Now back to RON95 as seem to be throwing money with RON97(additional RM30-40 with one full tank).
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agree with Dwango, on 1st try with Shell Ron97 now... it costed me RM30 more for full tank..
the accleleration feels much awesome but i feel the price paid is too much for the short fun.
Will be back to Shell Ron95. I prefer BHP (but they do not accept AMEX) as feels smoother but using Shell as for AMEX points + Bonuslink.

This post has been edited by thanish: Jan 7 2014, 10:21 AM

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