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SportyHandling
post Nov 12 2013, 07:18 AM

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QUOTE(dares @ Nov 11 2013, 04:37 PM)
In S mode, left in auto (not using the manual buttons) your 6-speed gearbox switches off the 6th gear, so you only have 5 gears. Which is why the top speed will be lower and the revs are higher, because it is stuck in 5th gear.
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Interesting. May I ask if this information is mentioned anywhere in some document or brochure? That explains why the transmission is stuck in S5(presumably 5th gear) when S mode is used. It won't upshift to S6 no matter how much force is exerted to the pedal, and it's just the rpms that will go up, the speed reaching a plateau at the upper limit of 5th gear. Only when the + button on the gear lever is pressed then the transmission upshifts S6.

Even in S6(6th gear in S mode), I felt that the rpms are higher than when the transmission is in D at any given speed. Hence, I believe that high speed cruising is more appropriate in D as the revs are higher in S mode even when the vehicle is in the highest gear, the 6th gear. It seems like there is an upper limit in 6th gear that is preventing the vehicle from achieving higher speed. Or to put it in another perspective, it is as if there is an "imaginary" 7th gear in D that enables the vehicle to achieve higher speed when it is in D.

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post Nov 13 2013, 07:46 AM

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I was just wondering who is the lady who is driving this Ford Focus Sports in Midnight Sky blue. Truly a gutsy lady. I have received the video on my mobile yesterday, and apparently the Chinese media had published this news several days ago. It is only now the article was published by The Star online.

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Does it happen that the lady in the video is the wife or girlfriend of any forummers here? Great work and effort. It was an embarrassment for the robber who got bashed up badly.
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post Nov 13 2013, 08:01 AM

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For those who didn't have the video, below are some image stills from the video. In the final stages of the video clip(not shown in the images here), the lady continued to bash the guy up who is lying on the ground before the other guy on the motorbike comes to the rescue with a knife.

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post Nov 13 2013, 08:02 AM

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post Nov 17 2013, 03:08 PM

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QUOTE(vyruzj @ Nov 16 2013, 08:50 AM)
Hello All,

I received my car on Wednesday and have driven it for almost 300KM. I don't have the low speed juddering at 1st-2nd gear... it felt almost like a normal auto-box unlike the show room car which i test drove with my wife. Put in to D, and it will start to creep forward slowly just like any conventional auto box. FYI, i drive daily in Seri Kembangan jams in the morning and after work.

Loving my Ford Focus to bits.. biggrin.gif Cheers!
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Good to know your car does not exhibit the slightest low speed juddering. You must be surely lucky. Hopefully it stays that way until about 2,000km. In my case the shuddering is at its peak in between 100km to 1,500km. At 2,000km and above the shuddering slowly diminishes approaching the smoothness of conventional auto transmissions.

Yes, the handling of the Focus especially in long journeys on the highways is certainly worth mentioning. The stability on the highways especially in heavy rain is great. There is just a feeling of confidence when behind the wheels of the Focus.
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post Nov 22 2013, 12:53 PM

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QUOTE(Ken77 @ Nov 22 2013, 11:44 AM)
My new focus is having grinding sound especially from 2nd to 3rd gear when i positioned it at D mode. Occasionally, first gear if jerking at the junction or traffic light.

Have sent to my first service after my complaint  but now is having back the same problems. and they said the grinding sound will not effect the performance of the car.  shakehead.gif

Are you guys  facing the same problems?
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I have experienced the grinding sound only once, but that was at very low speeds 10 to 30km/h, presumably 1st to 2nd gear. Now I don't hear the grinding sound anymore. Funny but weird the grinding sound only popped up once, for several seconds, only one time, then I don't hear it anymore.

My vehicle is still below 3,000km at the moment. Grinding sound was heard when the vehicle was around 1,800km. I will monitor the situation and update this thread if I notice any funny peculiarities particularly with the transmission of the Focus.

As for low-speed juddering, I feel this is a non-issue. Occassionally the vehicle will still jerk a bit when coming to a stop or accelerating from standstill or in traffic jam situations, and i suppose it is inherent in the Powershift transmission. As long as the "jerk" is not too strong then I think it is something that I can live with.


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post Nov 25 2013, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(304125 @ Nov 25 2013, 10:45 AM)
yesterday was my second day of driving focus, enjoying it very much, the solid feel going through bumpers, thanks to the independent control blades and also the sport tuned suspension.

However, I realise a few things:
1) there's bad jerking when jam at steep up hill (example in a shopping mall parking)
2) the smart entry delay about 0.5 seconds before it unlock the car, meaning if I approaching my car, I can't open my door immediately, I have to put my palm in the door handle, and open it slowly (not immediately, wait about 0.5 seconds)
3) There's delay in picking up, about 0.5 seconds before the power kick in, example if you wanna accelerate further when you're in speed of 60-80km/h
4) The steering a bit too light during low speed, and a bit too heavy at high speed (this maybe personal preference tongue.gif)

And today when I drive my Vios to work, I realize Vios is so much more responsive (feel lighter, in fact it is lighter, Vios kerb weight around 9XX KGs and our beloved Focus is around 13XX KG) and smoother gear changing, maybe I dare not push the Focus too much yet, (scare of the jerk, so just go smooth, be gentle on the pedal).

In resident area, Vios's steering is so light and easy to turn, the handling is not too bad either.

Overall, still loving my focus very much, after all, it's my choice!

Oh ya, one more thing, the Ford Sync, it was working fine on day one, and yesterday, don't know due to what command it received wrongly, it went to a mode call "line in" and seems like it trying to play music from my phone device, and ever since, my bluetooth phone never work, it just keep disconnect ever time I try to pair it, and even when I try to delete it and reconnect, it doesn't delete...

Should I do a master reset? Will my radio setting all gone, or it just reset the BT device?
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I presume the strong jerk only happens when the car is new. I guess the transmission needs some time to run-in, then the drive will smooth out. The gear changes will be less jerky once the mileage is close to 2,000km. In my case, quite smooth.

Due to the characteristics of the Powershift transmission, even after 2,000km the car will still exhibit a slight jerk sometimes, which can be reduced by being gentle on the footwork, mild step instead of abrupt force on the pedal which will cause the car to jerk forward.

As for smart entry delay, there may be a slight delay when one puts the palm onto the handle to open the door. But it's relatively quick anyway. Once it gets some use then it's a fairly easy thing to unlock/lock the doors the keyless entry way.

Delay in pick-up, during hard acceleration yes there is approx 0.5s delay. But in normal moderate acceleration, can say I felt there's a delay.

Steering is indeed light, but there is good feedback and response. That is one thing I love about the steering feel of the Focus. Other vehicles with light steering, the control is not as accurate or precise and may feel "loose". In low speeds, the steering of the Focus is indeed light, but at higher speeds I don't feel it gets heavier too much. Perhaps it get slightly heavier, but it is still light. I think it's a matter of preference, though I do prefer the steering weight and feel of the Focus over heavier steerings.

As for Sync, can't comment on this as I haven't really used it too much. Though sometimes when I want to call someone using the Sync and utter somebody's name, the system may end up calling someone else instead. Your pronunciation must be quite spot-on for the system to call the person that you intend to call.
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post Nov 25 2013, 11:24 AM

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QUOTE(pai3355 @ Nov 25 2013, 10:57 AM)
Last few weeks really decided to buy focus but then my wife dont really like it. After that we went to test drive cerato and found out my vios handling better than cerato. Feels like not worth to trade in our 7 years old vios. In the end no focus no cerato  tongue.gif
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If I'm not mistaken the Proton Preve's handling is also much better than Kia Cerato. Personally I think the Cerato only sells for the equipment and maybe quiet interior. But in terms of handling and power, it loses to the higher-range Proton models.
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post Nov 25 2013, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(craving @ Nov 25 2013, 11:32 AM)
13k here, after first service: jerks worsen sad.gif uphill strength drops and slow cornering gave a disturbing "tak tak tak" sound. waiting to send the car back for another inspection sad.gif wasting my time.
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Sorry to hear about the bad jerk, loss in acceleration power during uphill and "tak tak" sound in slow cornering even after 13,000km on the mileage. Hopefully it can be resolved, soon.

Fortunately or luckily, I have not experienced all these in my vehicle yet. THe mileage on my vehicle is still quite low though, around 3,000km. In uphill drives at low speeds, particularly at stretches with speed bumps, the transmission will have potential to exhibit more shudder or jerks, and sometimes grinding sound, as they say. I have experienced this once or twice on uphill roads with speed bumps but it is still manageable in my case.
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post Nov 25 2013, 11:58 AM

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QUOTE(0304125 @ Nov 25 2013, 11:48 AM)
Thanks for the reply, as I mentioned before, I used to drive my friend's fiesta before so I'm quite familiar with the DCT, and so far on the straight road, I hardly feel any jerk from the day one I got the car, control it by my right foot, accelerate according to the gearbox and speed and there won't be any jerk.

This jerking I mentioned here is in specific scenario, like going up hill, quite steep up hill and stop half way, move a bit, and stop again, to be exact, I face it in PWTC parking lot when I visited the KLIMS yesterday, not sure if this will go away with more mileage gain?

I was expecting the smart entry to be instant, but to my surprise, I can't open the door immediately, I have to be slow motion in open my door (when it's locked)...

As for the pick up delay, I have to accelerate before turning next time...and not turn and accelerate...cause the kick doesn't come instantly just like my vios sleep.gif", expecting it to be better thou.

Steering wise, just forget it, nothing too serious, just that I used to drive with single hand on my Vios (even when I'm driving fast) cause the steering is so light on Vios, easily managed when you used to it, handling was quite good, lol.
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Hmm, yes, I am equally interested to know about this as well, the transmission's behavior when it is on a steep inclined slope, especially one with speed bumps. I once drove the Focus on a steep inclined slope, and there is a speed bump ahead of that road. When I slowed down the vehicle approaching the speed bump, there is a slight jerk, and after the vehicle has gone over the speed bump, we have to step on the accelerator so that the vehicle will move forward. At that instance there is a rather strong jerk, and a grinding sound is heard. I just experienced this once. I am not sure if it is something normal or inherent in the vehicle. I will report back when the vehicle exhibits the same thing on an inclined slope with speed bumps next time I am in a similar situation. Maybe it's a one-off experience.

Parking lot in shopping malls, going up and down ramps which also have small speed bumps, the vehicle doesn't jerk. No issues. It's only in that experience that I have described above. Maybe that particular road, the inclined slope is too much with a steep gradient.

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post Nov 26 2013, 08:04 AM

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QUOTE(Ken77 @ Nov 25 2013, 04:21 PM)
I know, some people like my wife can take it but i'm very particular about the sound while I'm driving it everyday.

If  the car is having a good  performance  and handling but  come with grinding sound and jerking , I still consider it as defect me. Obviously , the dual clutch system for Focus is not smooth at all when accelerating.

I'm not a professional driver but it's totally  annoying when your car is jerking and come with grinding sound. After driving Focus, I will not recommend any of my  friend to buy Focus unless Focus  improve or change the gear system.
You must be Ford supporter.... LOL  smile.gif
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If you want a vehicle with smooth acceleration, I would recommend the Nissan Sylphy, my previous car before I changed to the Ford Focus. The acceleration is silky smooth like butter, no jerks even for a tiny bit. The CVT gear is very smooth and refined unlike some inferior CVTs such as the one incorporated in the Proton Preve Turbo.

For me, I don't find the minor jerk an issue. It is very minor and does not occur everytime, even in low speed stop-go-stop-go situtations ie. traffic jam situations. The minor jerks will only happen during 1st to 2nd gear upshift, or 2nd to 1st gear downshift. If one is able to control the footwork, being light or gentle with the pedal, then the jerks will be greatly minimised. If the driver is constantly stepping or tapping on the accelerator with force then the car will surely jerk more seriously.

I am suggesting driving habits. Do you happen to be more active in your footwork?

As for the grinding sound, can't say I have experienced it a lot. In a span of 3 months I think I have only heard it once during uphill. Other than that, nil.

"Tak tak" sound - nothing. Is it from the suspension?

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post Nov 26 2013, 08:11 AM

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By the way, forgot to mention my vehicle exhibits rattling sound in the steering wheel, only when going over bad or rough surfaces on the road. Anybody experienced the same? I am thinking there are too many stuff, buttons and sticks on the steering wheel that may have contributed to some loose ends. Not really a serious issue.
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QUOTE(craving @ Nov 26 2013, 08:40 AM)
was driving slyphy too, yes it is a good car. My focus vibrates at a stop on brake. Cant pinpoint the Tak Tak sound
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Yes, Sylphy is a good car. As a matter of fact, my next car replacing the 4 months old Proton Preve Turbo will be either the new Sylphy or new Teana. Nissan cars(Sylphy and Teana) are excellent in comfort, quietness and smooth drive.

Do you mean the engine of the Focus vibrates when the car is stationary, and the vibration is felt in the cabin? Hmm, not too good. I have not experienced this yet, only time will tell. Your mileage at 13,000km is much higher than mine at around 3,000km.
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QUOTE(craving @ Nov 26 2013, 08:58 AM)
yupe, am now stuck at duta toll slow drive stop & move and yes can feel it from inside. sad.gif
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Can ask the guys at the SC to check and rectify it. Time to test the after-sales service and efficiency of Sime Darby.
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post Nov 26 2013, 09:09 AM

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Craving - one question. The jerks, grinding sound and engine vibration. When your car is at around 2,000km to 3,000km mileage, are the jerks and vibration as serious as they are now at 13,000km mileage? Or at that time there are no jerks and vibration?

Do let me know.

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post Nov 26 2013, 09:48 AM

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QUOTE(craving @ Nov 26 2013, 09:35 AM)
jerks, grinding stopped right after 2000km. Came back when i hit 8000km. Vibration and sound when close to 9000km. After first service, grinding n jerks reduced alot but came back after 1000km. Vibration n sound more obvious now then before.
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Thanks for the response. So now I know all the grinding and jerks are not an issue starting from 2,000km to 8,000km, and only from 8,000km the car starts to show them.

I hope the SC or Ford will have something to rectify all the grinding and jerks of your vehicle, not forgetting the vibration as well. Now I understand your disappointment. Do update this thread in the event you have sent your vehicle to the SC to get all issues rectified, whether they will be resolved or they stay the same.
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Any Focus owners here with mileage 8,000km and above who experience serious jerks, grinding sound and vibration as Craving? Just to be sure that the issues are not only affecting one(1) unit but the rest as well.
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QUOTE(cOMMANDER pRASNTH @ Nov 26 2013, 10:04 AM)
Count me in - current mileage @ 13k and became more apparent after 8k as said.
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Okay thanks for the input. Not looking good. Hopefully there is a remedy from Sime Darby or Ford, soon.
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post Nov 26 2013, 11:33 AM

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QUOTE(cOMMANDER pRASNTH @ Nov 26 2013, 10:36 AM)
Where can you get such premium features with 3 years free service and 5 years warranty that even covers wiper blades, brake pads and even the battery - all this for a great price tag?

Do you know that our Ford Focus Mk3 cost RM96,400 (Titanium Non Plus) to RM 108400 (Sport Plus) from Thailand?

http://www.ford.co.th/en/cars/new-focus/sp...ions/price-list

http://www.xe.com/currencyconverter/conver...From=THB&To=MYR

Our car is very reasonably prices along with the fact that Ford Thailand only provides 3 years / 60000km warranty & service.

Ford Thailand Offers
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Yes, certainly pertinent points. The unbeatable value of the Focus is one of the main reason I have gone with it other than the performance in handling and driving dynamics. The Focus seem to render the Toyota Altis, Honda Civic and Nissan Sylphy overpriced.

The overall value of the car in interior fit and finish and features, coupled by 3 years free service and 5 years warranty are something that is worth mentioning.


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QUOTE(0304125 @ Nov 26 2013, 10:38 AM)
Yup, that's the right word, driving habits, I've learnt to drive a DCT with fiesta and carry it to my Focus, thus hardly any jerk except for exceptional scenario like jam going up hill.

If you're looking into smooth gear, CVT is the answer, my father's Altis is silky smooth too, to the point I feel it's boring to drive, lol
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I believe your dad's Toyota Altis and the Nissan Sylphy share an almost similar smooth jerkless drive, though I suspect the latter will be even smoother due to the CVT gear(Altis is on 4-speed transmission if I'm not mistaken).

Typical Japanese = smooth, quiet, comfortable and fuss-free. Only problem is it is characterless and doesn't invoke the spirit or love of driving. Good for passengers but a bit boring or mundane for the driver. The feeling of excitement isn't there once you step into the driver's seat of a Nissan or Toyota. But stepping into the cockpit of the Focus, oh yeah. You just can't wait to start the engine and drive the vehicle.

Right now I can adapt to the very minor jerks of the Focus, but not so sure once it reaches 8,000km as some folks here seem to be experiencing some serious jerks, grinding and "tak tak" sound. I will only be able to verify myself by mid or end of next year.

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