WELCOME TO THE OFFICIAL 4TH GEN NISSAN SERENA DISCUSSION THREAD.

Pre-facelift:

RM149,500.00 CBU from JAPAN

Facelift:


Highway Star - RM138,000 (CKD)
Premium Highway Star - RM149,500 (CKD)


It's here! It's here!
Check out the new Serena Hybrid

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This post has been edited by winkiedilwy: Nov 25 2014, 03:06 AM

Great should be next choice to compare from new sylphy or either it. And decide to trade with my NGL

Front's an improvement over the previous Serena's front, but the rear lights are too long for my liking.

For me daihatsu Move enlarge version

This post has been edited by kimsim: Jan 10 2013, 07:11 PM

Nisaan should keep continues update thier new models.

If the Serena is officer sale in m'sia that's good to have another choice.

At lease this is comes with new Pure Drive X-Tronic CVT
So far the car only can saw in HK, but Singapore still didn't seem yet.

The back looks smaller compared to the older one. The older one looks bigger.

the front definitely improved, but the back... erm... speechless ><

This model is NOT New. Been on sale in Hong Kong since late 2009!!! Tan Chong Always late in bringing models in!!!

well, at least it's still being produced...

wow the design is........

TCM will strip it and sell. No way will we have the high spec Nissans.

370Z and 370ZR. I think that's it.

Not sure about murano tho.

X-trail strip like shit, not even 4WD.

price range?

Dunno. But roughly same price as current Serena.

Do expect some legendary Tan Chong cost cutting measures

when launch?

July or Aug 13.

Price is around Rm145-155k

Cum with smaller S hybrid motor for when the car is topping on traffic light. But you won't feel the engine switch over to hybrid system.

Pure Drive CVT meant no more loud noise in the sudden acceleration.

Fully CBU as cheaper tax now.

This post has been edited by kimsim: Jun 12 2013, 08:47 AM

Anyone encountered this:

What is the full-spec like? Dimension-wise slightly bigger than previous C26.

C24/C26
Overall length (mm) 4590 /4685
Overall width (mm) 1695 /1695
Overall height (mm) 1825 /1865
Wheelbase (mm) 2695 / 2860
Min. Ground Clearance (mm) 155 / 160
Kerb Weight (kg) 1568 /1630
Seating Capacity (persons) 7 / 8

Just dual air-bag. Good if it comes with audio control at steering.

it's very, i don't know, ripped-off..

I think this is CBU from Japan, so Tan Chong can't do any cost cutting!

They do. You see the features, quite ripped off.

I have compared it with the Japanese selling version, almost the same only what, what ripped off you felt?

TCM sure profit a lot from tis model. checked the japan nissan site u will get these info.

Cheapest Serena S-Hybrid¥ 2,598,750 =rm 82,461.31 Highest Spec Serena S-Hybrid (Rider Black Line)¥ 2,924,250 = rm92,789
So where is the Green Tax rebate on this , or rebated into TCM's own pocket lah...

From TCM web site preview, its coming with the most basic spec, no on wheel media/radio control and without panaromic sun roof.

This post has been edited by sianglee: Jul 10 2013, 09:32 PM

These mpv is having some unusual spec as we familiar with.
Which is.... no spare tire provided ...

Just go info from the nissan SA minimum price 149k without insurance. Means its 150k above mpv....

This post has been edited by sianglee: Jul 11 2013, 12:24 PM

Its a rippoff..

See the steering wheel. Only cruise button on the right side.
Left side suppose to have audio control but nope... they removed it..

Because why they removed it?

Unless you wanna prefer for Japanese HU and show with arigator text to same specs like fully imported like Toyota cars.

Dont tell me they have to remove it due to different HU...

If they pro enuf, any region should have separate and compromised HU.

They remove the audio control is one thing. The feature can be used even on some china HU.
Skin deep we didnt know what else they remove.

*Hint: Elantra have tweeter casing, but no tweeter inside when they deliver the car

Don't worried too much of feature.. Unlike the cruse control can't add anymore.

For me I am happy, due to fully imported from direct japan, if I am too might about the extra feature then 100% I would pay for engrand.

Bro, you have to add in the AP, shipping fee, sales tax..... cannot compare the raw car price. If you compare this way, In Malaysia no any one car that is worth to buy because all the distributor will get a lot of profit!

Since this new serena looks like inflated kenari, might as well take new ssangyong stavic. At least its cheaper (117K), seats 11 (8 seat will be very spacious), and full of features..

Plus diesel engine.

http://paultan.org/2013/07/06/ssangyong-st...comment-1398477

Went to their show room today, price RM149.500 otr, without GPS, Reverse Camera, Leather seat etc

Still consider this car with Toyota Innova..............

What you wanna expected?

Innova is made in Indonesia vs Japan.

Innova no hybrid and what else?
Innova heavy FC and lowerest RV too.

Main thing for my consideration is space, coz need to fetch a lot of relative (adult + kids) , New Serena showroom still don''t have car to display yet............guess Innova is bigger right ?

As commented by most forumers in Hong Kong who receive this new c26 earlier this year,the fc is around 10km/l to 12km/l only. Not as efficient as quoted by nissan japan official statement of 15.2km/l. This is mostly due to hotter climate in HK which reduce the iddle start stop efficiency I.e. engine would always on to drive the air cond. Can't imagine how much left the shybrid saving when its in Malaysia....
take my word, dont expect the 15.2km/l to be achieved anywhere in Malaysia

This post has been edited by sianglee: Jul 11 2013, 09:10 PM

At 150k there are plenty of choices of good quality cars though it may not an MPV. The truth why poeple choose recond mpv like alphard or estima may not 100% becos of the need of space but becos of good features offered within.
With such strip off and that price range, TCM may not attract much potential buyers...

This post has been edited by sianglee: Jul 11 2013, 09:02 PM

150k, and this price is only valid till year end.
next year dunno what price ad.

Believe very soon TCM will introduce CKD ver. with more ripping off at lower price..
Cos gov policy will end the hybrid duty exemption by introducing more tax relief for local assembled hybrid car.
Not worried too much about price hike for tis SERENA S-Hybrid, gov now is under pressure to reduce car price .
Eventually we may get other car/ MPV with less price or better spec (if car dealers not willing to reduce price).
The choice is ours as consumer. We reserves the right to refuse the products thats having to many levels of exploitation.

When did u plan to have one?

With the exemption of 75% excise duty, the remaining tax items left only the 30% import duty +10% sales tax.
Says if TCM get the basic ver priced RM 82,461
+30% import duty RM 24,738 = 107,199
+10% sales tax RM 10,719 = 117,918

RM149,500-RM117,918=RM 31,582 - TCM tax/duty?


Source :MAA:Malaysia Automotive Info Duty Structure

This post has been edited by sianglee: Jul 12 2013, 08:58 AM

Bro, you forgotten to add in the AP and shipping price as well!!!

I thought no excise tax and import tax for hybrid (<2L) and franchised AP at near 0 cost (no?) and open AP @rm10k.

Their SA told me pre booking already more than300 cases less than 3 weeks.......really so popular for this car?

This post has been edited by Cliff_Tan73: Jul 12 2013, 04:39 PM

I think this MPV fills a hole in this market right now. For the price, here are the choices:
5 yo Estima
6 yo Alphard
Peugeot 5008
Hyundai Starex
Mazda 5
Toyota Innova
Chevy Orlando
Nissan Grand Livina
Toyota Wish
Honda Stream

For all it is worth, I think Serena is a better buy, at least for my requirement. You can't just emphasize on how much TC is making from this MPV, you should think of the value it brings for your own usage.

Even if it is a better buy compared to the non-hybrid MPV (this is a problem of no competition) just can't stand a company that take advantage of the tax exemption but didn't pass down the benefits to the consumers.

if you are buying a hybrid...make sure your budget 10-20k for battery replacement and labour cost

i am also waiting to see the price and specs list on this model....i just hope they pump in all the specs like how naza is doing for kia and peugeot and citroen

I was told by SA that the car uses 2 standard batteries (instead of 1 for non-hybrid). The replacement cost should not be more than RM300 each.

yes the batteries are standard.

Anyone knows the km/l figure?

Spare a 0.30cts /km

0.3sen/km = 633km/litre ron95
3sen/km = 63.3km/litre

or cts=singapore cents?

Come to think of it, if every car companies brings in only hybrids and not paying excise and import taxes (as what PR first mooted) then used car industries will also be in deep sh*t.

Take for example the Honda Jazz Petrol and Hybrid:

Peninsula Price they are almost the same (considering rebates and freebies).
Labuan Price Jazz Hybrid price double that the Jazz Petrol.

Read from PaulTan that this is only a simple-Hybrid.
May be that's why the price diff in Japan btw S-Hybrid and non-Hybrid is only about 10% becos not much of advancement in tech.
If non-Hybrid is selling in Langkawi at rm88k, then s-hybrid should be about rm97k.
So hopefully(my dream will be realised, hahaha) S-hybrid would be priced around rm100k.
At this price point all other MPV sales would halt immediately.

This post has been edited by MGM: Jul 15 2013, 05:20 PM

Bro MGM please wake up from your dream, the S-Hybrid is set with the price of RM 149K oledi.....

This post has been edited by sianglee: Jul 15 2013, 05:23 PM

This is a Simple Hybrid, meaning the hybrid is only provide the electric motor to run only when the car start moving, so when stop, the alternator will recharge the battery for the next use, with this simple cycle, the Serena able to achieve up to 15KM/L or above, which is much better than the old Serena, Innova..... In real world drive, I assume the Serena will able to get around 12-13km/l.

Who has already set the price? Would like to have a look.
Nissan Malaysia official websites has the prices of all their models EXCEPT S-hybrid.
Previously CRV2.4 was also set at rm190k in one of the car sales website, turn out the final price is rm169k.
Goodnight, I am going back to my dream

S-Hybrid is just a term to enjoy lower import duty i guess.

It is not a full hybrid like Prius / CT 200.

Maybe not even on par to Honda Insight thingy.....

Simple, to know the price, bring any check book to TCM showroom, showing you are very confirm to get one. Then the SA will tell lots of their info.

So you have given them your check and that's why you know the price has been set at rm149k?

I am not an expert but from what I read, technolgy and cost wise PRIUS > JazzHybrid > Serena S-Hybrid and if price diff btw JazzHybrid and JazzPetrol is less than 10%, Serena S-Hybrid which uses a simple additional battery should be priced cheaper than at RM149K (compare to Serena @RM97K a diff of 53%), both prices after tax exemption.

This post has been edited by MGM: Jul 17 2013, 12:24 PM

why u need to compare with other brand hybrid price over petrol ver.? As simple as it is, get the price from nissan japan website, all actual prices are there.

About the check? Make a guess. HAHA

It's tiring talking to a person not on the same wavelength. By comparing only then we know @rm149k the S-Hybrid is overpriced. Moreover we are comparingwith cars of better hybrid/battery technology. The 10% diff of Serena and S-Hybrid are based on the lowest prices of the respective models taken from Nissan Japan website(~rm69k vs rm76k). Knowing these prices and Serena Price in langkawi we can roughly estimate the price of S-hybrid. Assuming no other cost, S-Hybrid(highway star) should be rm97000.*76/69=rm107k

This post has been edited by MGM: Jul 17 2013, 12:48 PM

Bro MGM where u get the S-Hybrid price in Langkawi?? The Nissan website price for the current SERENA is very different ( very outdated ) C24 model. S-Hybrid model is C26....

By the way , just got SA informed that the car is launching on 23 July at TCM showroom Melati.

This post has been edited by sianglee: Jul 17 2013, 01:46 PM

Does this Serena S-Hybrid can get our government tax exemption?

Oh? Only available in Tmn Melati showroom on 23july?? I thought all show room have it?

The official launch is next Tues morning at Setia Mall so the official price will be out by then.

Where and when can I see the real car??

Yup. The price given now is already exempted from govt tax. Till this year end only.

If you are talking about the price of rm149k, then it is definately overpriced.

TOTALLY AGREED.

This post has been edited by sianglee: Jul 19 2013, 10:50 AM

Seems abit over price for this level of mpv. RM 150k can get a lot of better car. Serena chasis is more or less like nissan B segment such as latio, syphy, nv 200 and livina. They only modified it with longer wheel base and add. height.

Its well accepted in japan and hk as they mostly use more city drive and limited space. In contrary we got more highway and more comfortable parking space here, RM 150k is more justified to get those D segment cars ,instead.

Considering Mazda 5 or Pug 5008 ....

This post has been edited by sianglee: Jul 19 2013, 11:02 AM

I really need to rant about Nissan cars now. IMHO.

WTF is Nissan doing? I mean, our own ETC is ruining nissan nowadays.

CVT Gearbox - In an Almera, Latio, it's great. But seriously, they fitted CVT to all vehicles. Seriously, a CVT in a X-Trail, Teana, Elgrand, Murano, Serena?!?!!? Doesn't make sense at all! (Luckily they don't fit a CVT in a GT-R, THANK GOD). CVT only saves fuel but it ruins all the fun. 6-speed auto would be great.

Design - Look at Almera and you'll know what i mean.

Warranty - Seriously?! 3 years only? Most car manufacturers offer up to 5 years warranty. Some with unlimited mileage??

Equipment - Equipment is not really what you call "a lot". They're even so proud that they've fitted a Blind Spot Monitoring System in the Teana, controlled with a switch from the 1980s. And the cars we received here is so ripped off, adui... extreme facepalm.



X-Trail - My family owned one since 2004 and we decided to keep it. Why? It's great! But look at the X-Trail TC brought in these days. 2.0 2WD only. The X-Trail used to be one of the best selling off-road SUVs but now 2WD? 2.0?! CVT??!!

Serena S-Hybrid - Serena is already well known for underpower. Now even worse, hybrid. And the biggest problem of all, the price tag.

I seriously hope that TC would just rethink about what they did. IMHO Nissan is getting backwards nowadays.

LOL, dude, please go through all other manufacturers first before making such a funny statements!

the mpv is having launching tomolo, dono when can have test drive..

Called their SA, car no yet reach their show room, don't know where to see the car tomorrow also......

This post has been edited by Cliff_Tan73: Jul 22 2013, 09:38 PM

obviously you don't know how good and advance is nissan's cvt. go read more. it's different from the typical cvt

they're proud with the BSMS because they can. teana is the only jap d segment in the market currently other than mazda 6 to be fitted which such safety system.

and who the heck told you hybrid is underpowered ?

Can I know if anyone has placed a booking for this car ..... and if there is any extra offer top of the early bird promotion from earlier this month. (Early bird promo i know is - Free maintenance services , Free PA and lower interest rate from TC Capital - 2.38 to 2.75%)

I had a chance to test drive the car today, and SA informed that the 6.5 inch multimedia navigation will be thrown in for free for early bird bookings.

Price of the additional accessories off a flyer I received today:

6.5inch multimedia navigator - RM 3300
10.1" roof=mount LCD panel - RM 700
Combination leather seat & door panel - RM 2800
V-Kool - RM 3400 (ELITE) | RM 2950 (Armorcoat)
Solar Gard - RM 1500
Door Visor - RM 400

No confirmation on the price yet (was told lesser than 150K), but SA confirmed that the official launch will be at Setia City Convention Centre on Tuesday, 23/7/2013.

I was initially hoping that leather seats was a standard fitment...

Just launched @ RM 149,500 otr.
Looks quite good.
Both the car and the models.

wonder when can view at showroom?

It's still a CVT, boring. Yeah fuel saving but...

I know but they put such a switch in such an expensive car. At least Mazda put some nice buttons like this


I mean the car itself is underpowered. I think they too focused on making it a city car rather than long distance.

With excise & import duties waived and at rm149500 , 2 airbags, fabric seats, optional multimedia navigator this squarish van is way overpriced. Can't wait to see more competition to bring it 'down to size' to reflect its true value.

This post has been edited by MGM: Jul 23 2013, 02:04 PM

Plus Halogen headlight on reflector lamps with manual adjustments... Tsk tsk tsk.
Even leather seats are optional... but ok la i'm not big fan of leather seats anyway.

And,


At that price you can get a larger, more comfortable recond Estima 2.4

This post has been edited by winkiedilwy: Jul 23 2013, 02:04 PM

Just received some,
RM0.00 Come & see Malaysia's 1st ever hybrid MPV, the Nissan Serena S-Hybrid on 23July @ ETCM Kuantan, Jalan Beserah Tel: 09-5178628 -TanChong

just test drove the mpv at jalan ipoh branch. feel pretty bumpy at second row seat. weird digital meter. cheap plastic everywhere. seems like all parts are source from china.

I think only import duties are waived. not Excise duties. In malaysia all car have to pay Excise duties unless ur at langkawi or labuan.

i also test drive just now. its spacious. alot of leg room. i dont feel very bumpy even seat at last roll. Yup the digital meter is cyber. overall i was quite impress and i book one d

Taken from LLD, read this:

With its 1,997cc MR20DD petrol engine under the hood, the Serena S-Hybrid is eligible for import and excise duty exemption for hybrid vehicles below 2,000cc (which expires on 31-December 2013).

http://www.livelifedrive.com/malaysia/news...sia---rm149-500

I just feel that TCM is greedy and didn't pass this tax benefits to consumer becos there is no competition. I believe the govt will extend this duty exemption for hybrid vehicle to only CKD next year and hopefully by then price should come down and there wii be more competition from other brands. Just look at JazzHybrid and AudiA6 Hybrid.

This post has been edited by MGM: Jul 25 2013, 12:44 PM

*yawn* ...pass. Next.

Went to see it last night..

My personnel observation:-

Good:-
1. Keyless push start
2. Digital meter
3. Roomy compare to Toyota Innova, Wish, Or maybe same room space as Estima
4. 2 power sliding door
5. CVT gear box
6. Fuel saving(according to manufacture)
7. Variable seat configuration according to individual need

No Good:-
1. All plastic interior, look so so on the build quality
2. All seat is quite hard
3. Second row center seat is not comfortable due to the center slider arm rest
4. Third row seat is quite low for adult, but ok for children
5. No HID
6. No front sensor
7. No steering volume control. No convenient to control volume every time by hand reach

Not able to test drive due to quite late already and the SA ask me come over other day for test drive.

My conclusion is nothing is perfect on every car design. If this is your choice go for it.

If you dont mind recond car with higher price and with better spec and better design then go for it.

The decision is always on your hand..

Dude, let's make it fair a bit to others, Toyota Prius selling price in Japan is around RM65K, Prius C is around RM54K and Insight is around RM60K, and Serena is around RM90K, so you can calculate yourself whether the Serena Hybrid is worth to buy or not. If people can accept the Prius price is Malaysia, I have no idea why someone would keep complaining the Serena is expensive lar, Tan Chong greedy lar.......

For LOL, you are using Toyota to compare, don't you know both are bloodsu-kers lah. And we are talking about tax exemption here. See how much Honda Jazz Hybrid can be reduced to if one is not so greedy.

Test drive for second round 2day with my queen. No feel of underpower at all. Just noticed tat Idling start stop never activated along 5 km trip. Could be the air cond keeps on running under the hot sun

This post has been edited by sianglee: Jul 25 2013, 11:14 PM

Bro, Jazz Hybrid if not mistaken, the selling price in Japan is cheaper than Insight, so RM89k++ is ok what while the Insight is close to RM98k.

So u already booked one? What calour u choose?