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post Jun 23 2018, 01:09 PM

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Good idea to find out the reason for the auctions. If u see from the 1st post. Launching 1.1mil. Subsale 900k. Now 600k.

Jalan kiara 3 will probably need 10 years to become like the other roads in mont kiara.

If can get 1 for around 350 persqft i think its worth a shot. Especially if buy for own stay.
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post Apr 29 2019, 09:06 PM

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QUOTE(kengunner @ Apr 29 2019, 08:03 PM)
Planning to get a lelong unit there for own stay + long term investment. Would like to hear opinion from Aston 3 residence on the traffic condition during peak hour. Heard it is very bad, is it true? And for future, is it possible that Jalan Kiara 3 will be upgraded as there will be more and more condo building along that road. Doing some research before getting a unit.
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I think theres only 3 more plots of land that have squatters staying there, all the other lands have either been cleared or are under construction. So only 3 more developments need to be launched before the whole road is cleared.

I would guess 10 years for the whole road to be upgraded and the squatters removed.
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post May 4 2020, 11:33 PM

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QUOTE(propertyowner @ May 3 2020, 01:32 AM)
So in short, could you name a few in the MK vicinity which has better positioning at comparable price point?
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It might look ugly now. But if i had to guess in 10 years time this would just look like any other place in mont kiara. Assuming the road cutting from twy gets to this area.

The roads would probably get repaired, and there would be new developments coming up. If im not mistaken, theres only 3 plots of land along that particular road that remain undeveloped/no ongoing plans.

Its also selling for something like 330 persqft. Which is quite unheard off, especially for a middle upper end condo. In mont kiara no less.

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post May 12 2020, 07:54 AM

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QUOTE(propertyowner @ May 10 2020, 02:46 PM)
Hence still yet to hear any existing/future projects at MK which has better positioning at comparable price point
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I dont think theres any other property in mont kiara with this price point.
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post Jun 29 2020, 12:28 AM

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Auction last time 450k to 500k leh.... half price on the same road.

But i think no more auction already
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post Jun 29 2020, 05:04 AM

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The existing developments beside it is already double the persqft price w/o the roads. Lol. Fully sold out somemore.

Got 2 roads, one through twy, another one coming from behind.
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post Jun 29 2020, 08:37 AM

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QUOTE(WahBiang @ Jun 29 2020, 08:26 AM)
You mean Richmond? Could it be due to aging? AK3 is 10yrs old vs 6 yrs old?
True, but loan capped at 35 yrs but this 240 is forever and may increase due to higher outstanding? Make it 400 as safer consideration, maybe = 100k loan... But this project good? Tenants quality??
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Was talking about ardena and inspirasi. The new launches give an indication of what the range should be i think.

The older units sell at a discount, but their still middle upper class condos, a 40 to 50% discount seems way too large.
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post Jun 29 2020, 11:50 AM

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QUOTE(a16791 @ Jun 29 2020, 10:55 AM)
Yes.  Every Individual have different risk appetite and requirements. The loan period and maintenance amount are some variables where you can plug in to do your analysis . But as I have mention previously Aston Kiara 3 , Sophia & Hijauan are one of the few condos where its selling price always lower than others similar one and I suspect the main reason is the high maintenance fee.
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Sophia and hijauan persqft is rm800. Aston is selling at rm400 persqft. On auction its closer to rm350. Ur comparison is inaccurate, aston is 50% cheaper than both those condos.

Which comes back to the original question, why is this condo selling at a 40 to 50% discount compared to others.
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post Jun 29 2020, 01:31 PM

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QUOTE(WahBiang @ Jun 29 2020, 01:09 PM)
I see, any indication of the reason? Location, tenant, age?
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Maybe due to location, this condo and richmond was deep in the squatter area, wasnt mont kiara proper, also just weak hands initially.

Once the area stabilizes, ie: the current constructed condos r completed and the squatters are gone, i suspect prices will move up. Maybe not double, but it isnt hard to see it go to 450 or 500 per sqft in 5 years.

At rm500k, which was the last auction price, i suspect it will be a good bargain.
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post Jun 29 2020, 01:39 PM

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QUOTE(WahBiang @ Jun 29 2020, 01:34 PM)
I see, so they might approve but money still need to be from some1 else.. Maybe the New projects nearby?
I see, this area not really good now then.. But maybe buy n keep??
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If can rent out while bleeding cash a little for 5 years it ought to look good.
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post Jun 29 2020, 01:55 PM

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QUOTE(WahBiang @ Jun 29 2020, 01:53 PM)
Just the big IF, if it returned after 5 yrs
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Haha, this 1 i dunno, maybe u have a better idea of the rentability?
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post Jun 29 2020, 02:08 PM

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QUOTE(Zwean @ Jun 29 2020, 01:58 PM)
Location is good, just the access... a bit difficult.

If DBKL wants to connect to Jalan Duta Kiara, it has to be an elevated road.

Which is costly, and they may or may not entertain connection applications from Aston Kiara.

However if in the long run, can be connected to JK4 and if North Kiara starts having some commercial activity. May bring up the value.
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At 350 to 400 per sqft, hard to go wrong. This condo located anywhere else would command a higher persqft. Subang, pj, pracrically everywhere else.

Mont kiara is probably the best of all those places. It looks like this place is turning into mont kiara. Which makes sense.
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post Jun 30 2020, 08:17 AM

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QUOTE(WahBiang @ Jun 30 2020, 08:14 AM)
The key to the solution, is when amd i guess no answer??
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If u look at the pace the new developments r launching. Its about 1 per year. Theres 2 plots of land remaining with squatters, the whole area will be a big construction site la.

But to clear out, i think conservatively is 3 years. To completely build, maybe 8, by 5 years it should look very different already.
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post Jun 30 2020, 08:25 AM

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QUOTE(a16791 @ Jun 30 2020, 08:19 AM)
Sorry . I guess my command of English is so bad that until you couldn't comprehend what I'm trying to say . What I'm trying to convey is compare Sophia with pines / Palma / Pelangi / bayu and HK compare with Danai / semi / mk28 / mk11 and you could see that there are pricing differences even though these condos are within the same category . Leaving location aside.
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I see, but even then rm800 persqft is considered mid upper class condo no?

Pj what to buy for rm350 persqft? Or subang for that matter.
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post Jun 30 2020, 09:09 AM

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QUOTE(spursman_forever @ Dec 26 2018, 08:26 AM)
when i first moved in 2017, i actually attended the first AGM post developer where they formed the MC with the aim to bring down the management fee. however, after seeing the costs involved and upon advise of rising annual costs, the MC were not able to reduce the maintenance fee. Rising cost in 2018 together with other condos around raising their management fees have actually justified this and im confident we wont have to raise the fees for the forseable future too as a result.

the guard house at the back has been there since the beginning, long before i moved in as the space behind the condo has always been earmarked to be part of Jalan Kiara 4 which is part of the greater KL plan. however, when we spoke to city hall and were visited by its officers some time ago, they informed us funds were not available in the foreseeable future so we are not sure if we will ever see the road or not, but believe you me, im also always enquiring on about it.
please bear in mind that a massive storm drain separates this road if its ever built and our condo and we will have to build a bridge across this, this will no doubt cost quite a bit if it ever happens, and all owners will probably have to chip in for it at the time as even if completely deplete our sinking fund and management fund i dont think we will have enough to fund the construction cost.

hope this answers your questions. have a good day
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The infra is already in place.

If u check google maps, even the roads have been marked on the map. Coming in behind inspirasi.
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post Jun 30 2020, 09:21 AM

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The roads marked on google maps show that the main road is connected PAST the storm drains before splitting off and continuing down to ardena, aston and richmond. Richmond has no back guardhouse. The connection past the storm drains is visible on googlemaps. Probably 1 or 2 years away from completion. Likely less

There is no requirement to build past the storm drains.

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post Jul 2 2020, 09:34 AM

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QUOTE(spursman_forever @ Jul 2 2020, 09:24 AM)
just to make sure there are no vested interests, flight are you a property agent or living there?

i live here and im not confident the road will be made soon, not with the political situation in malaysia and our current lack of funds
on top of that, inspirasi has built an elevated end on kiara 4 that closes into their unit. whether than can be rectified im not sure but given that UEM owns the plot between inspirasi and aston im sure they will find a way to get it done which will benefit us although i fear that the road will be elevated.

As for funds, we have > 1 million in our sinking fund but that is nowhere enough to build such a structure if the road is eventually built (especially if we need to build a raised structure to connect) and we will most likely have to do a capital raise in the future to entertain such a notion IF Kiara 4 is built. On the other side of things, if the connecting road is built all the way thru, traffic will significantly reduce on kiara 3 and it will essentially become a side road rather than the major thruway. that itself will make getting in and out much much easier so the major traffic build up will be a thing of the past and it will shift to kiara 4.

As for living here, all i can say is that its great. its quiet as there are only 180 units, extremely safe and the facilities are good. If you are buying for investment, this is not for you, please stay away, we want a wholesome family place, not a place for you to rent out or try to make a quick flip.
It is very affordable for those wanting their first homes in the heart of KL and given that its freehold, the sky is the limit, just for comparison, inspirasi is leasehold.

Yes maintenance is expensive, almost 700 ringgit for maintenance monthly as there are only 180 units here but monthly collections are > 80%. In other words we are healthy finance wise and well managed. Bear in mind this has NOT been raised for > 5 years now. how many other condos can say the same. I can assure you this as im on the committee and have been so for the last 3 years and i can tell you that all the related costs keep rising year on year but we have been able to maintain that without cutting the quality because of that 0.40 psf. I dont think we will have to increase this coming year again though i cant guarantee that for the year after.

Like it or not, stay or not i dont care, if you join us welcome, if you dont, your loss or your gain or whatever. One thing is for sure, location wise for this price i doubt you can find a better deal to be honest.
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Nope, not an agent here. But ive been looking at this particular development, so i know a little. If theres anything at rm450k for 1500 sqft and i have the money. I would probably buy to flip, if it doesnt work out, staying is also an option, at rm2.3k, the tenants shouldnt be too bad. If its rm450k its also cashflow positive.
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post Jul 2 2020, 10:17 AM

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2.3k i think is a low figure, if a road is built and the area is developed it wont be that rate. Sefina rented out rm4k at that size.

Anyway, im not actively looking now, looking at other things.
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post Jul 2 2020, 10:36 AM

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QUOTE(SongChiang @ Jul 2 2020, 10:23 AM)
you're talking 5~10 years from nw ?
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My personal opinion. It may be sooner. Once the weaker hands sell to stronger hands, the picture will change. The area already can see changes. Jalan kiara 4 is already being built, dunno whether it will complete all in 1 go or be done in stages.

Sefina is rm4.5k for 1300 sqft.
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post Jul 2 2020, 03:22 PM

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It looks like the road has been built up till sefina. The land is cleared until the turning in between inspirasi and ardena. Looks like its turning in.

Looks like the main road, rather than a bridge for the development.

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