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Bursa Traders Thread V2, waaa! V2 d !
Bursa Traders Thread V2, waaa! V2 d !
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Mar 12 2013, 04:58 PM
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This thread mutates ....less talks on TA ?
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May 14 2013, 01:33 PM
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Market is so hot but this thread is so cool ?
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May 29 2013, 11:18 AM
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QUOTE(ciahcra @ May 29 2013, 10:11 AM) I do, but sometimes I just take whatever that are currently in the theme (now o&g, iskandar.....) I like but my best method, I go to FB group that discuss stock market, or even here in this forum, and take stock picks from those punters but i do my own analysis la, instead of jumping in together with them.....save me time from the need to go thru each stocks. yes I invests (or trades) stocks that have fundamentals. Seems O & G stocks are into plays |
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Jun 13 2013, 01:52 PM
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QUOTE(ciahcra @ Jun 13 2013, 01:12 PM) I'm out from the market for the time being.....gonna concentrate on my f&b business Congratulations.P/s: not totally out la, maybe gonna buy few dividend paying shares, and leave my money there P/s: my other thread with regard to my f&b business https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2529819 I'd really appreciate if you guys could give some input/opinion/critics. Thanks. I believe you have made the right decisions. Some shares are meant to be " auto piloting " than depending on the ever changing charts , that could consume more time than you could afford. Best Regards . This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Jun 13 2013, 01:52 PM |
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Jun 15 2013, 12:17 PM
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QUOTE(ciahcra @ Jun 15 2013, 08:15 AM) My strategies are: Nice 1. In uptrend, I will go Long on Dip 2. In downtrend, I will Short on Rally 3. In sideways market, I'd most probably stay away....if you still want to trade, buy at support sell at resistance. but I will only do it if the sideways movement is wide enough Since our stock market can only buy, so only 1 and 3 can be used. However, for strategy 3, I find it very difficult to implement on our stock market due to tight movement during market consolidation. So most of the time, in order to make money, only strategy 1 will be useful. more often than not, you'll lose money in strategy 3, not to mention strategy 2. The question is, how you define what the current trend is? Thanks for all your sharing. I guess it is a " down" trend . maybe due to less cash available in the markets ( cash withdrawal syndrome ? ) , but kinda soft landing than hard landing because of local funds strong support. Just my view only. This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Jun 15 2013, 12:24 PM |
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Oct 24 2013, 10:04 AM
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wrong posting This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Oct 24 2013, 10:14 AM |
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Dec 6 2013, 11:50 AM
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QUOTE(gark @ Dec 6 2013, 10:51 AM) Yes you are right.. net of 232 mil debt the share value is about 5.60/share.. Last time , I love to play M & A stocks , but now I do not .Stupid bank.. until now nearly 3 months, near deadline still no news.. later at expiry date decide to announced cancel deal pulak.. The main reason is I find out , most M & A are like having boy and girl relationships , very fragile to break away, and later maybe reunion again Just my own analysis....... Like what WB says, learning to be Temperament than to be Smart. Sori, do not mean to preach anything here. This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Dec 6 2013, 11:58 AM |
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Dec 6 2013, 12:19 PM
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QUOTE(gark @ Dec 6 2013, 12:14 PM) There is always risk in investment... depending on how we minimize it only.. by buying at the correct valuation True also,.Lot of time spent to follow those sensitive info linked to M & A , sometimes may be purposely given to mislead too. Care has to taken. Regards This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Dec 6 2013, 12:20 PM |
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Dec 6 2013, 02:00 PM
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Dec 6 2013, 02:05 PM
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Dec 6 2013, 02:10 PM
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Dec 11 2013, 11:56 AM
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QUOTE(gark @ Dec 11 2013, 11:37 AM) Just practicing my calculation.. this is not a recommendation ha. Hi Sifu ,» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Correct or not? Sori to bother u for a while.. Let say the PE of a co is 5X , Net cash is 41sen a share. EPS is 11sen How much the 41sen bring down the PE of 5x . Thanks This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Dec 11 2013, 12:22 PM |
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Dec 11 2013, 12:05 PM
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QUOTE(gark @ Dec 11 2013, 12:00 PM) Theoretical PE for net cash company... The problem , I find it confusing is Net Cash per share = Mkt price per share , getting Zero or negative (Price/share - net cash/share)/(Recurring EPS) One off EPS gain is usually not counted... (Price/share - net cash/share) = Zero How " Improved balance sheet with net cash matching market cap " analyst report " Earnings on strong upward trajectory underpinned by ~RM800m unbilled sales (4x FY13 property development revenue) and RM1.5bn launch pipeline in prime locations. Improved balance sheet with net cash matching market cap; potential to declare dividends in FY14. Attractive valuation (0.3x P/RNAV, 5x FY14F PE). Fair value of RM0.65 based on 50% discount to RNAV of RM1.30, implying 57% upside potential." Thanks, anyway for yr valuable input This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Dec 11 2013, 12:45 PM |
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Dec 11 2013, 01:16 PM
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QUOTE(gark @ Dec 11 2013, 01:03 PM) If net cash > market price is known as Graham's net net stock. O I see , You buy the share but get the business for free. I often hear about net net stock, but could not bother to find out what it really means .... Now I stand a chance to know better....... Thanks for the explanation Time for me to read the Little Book now |
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Dec 11 2013, 01:25 PM
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QUOTE(gark @ Dec 11 2013, 01:18 PM) True also....No warrants issued . But loan stock issued eventually converted to shares to dilute earnings.....but earnings could jump at faster rate ....than the dilution... Loan stock issued is to exchange for a commercial Building with some 8% guaranteed return..... But overall future earning growth could be dynamics .......even though the new commercial bought yield is so so only . This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Dec 11 2013, 01:27 PM |
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Dec 11 2013, 02:00 PM
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QUOTE(felixmask @ Dec 11 2013, 01:42 PM) Litttle Book of Valuation by ASWATH DAMODARAN BTW, Besides valuations , I do like Sharks present in a particular co. So I do not buy purely on valuations alone i.e the most undervalued ones may not be selected.... This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Dec 11 2013, 02:00 PM |
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Jan 10 2014, 12:39 PM
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Jan 23 2014, 12:06 PM
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Feb 7 2014, 10:32 AM
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