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SKY 1809
post Mar 12 2013, 04:58 PM

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This thread mutates ....less talks on TA ?
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post May 14 2013, 01:33 PM

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Market is so hot but this thread is so cool ?
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post May 29 2013, 11:18 AM

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QUOTE(ciahcra @ May 29 2013, 10:11 AM)
I do, but sometimes I just take whatever that are currently in the theme (now o&g, iskandar.....)

but my best method, I go to FB group that discuss stock market, or even here in this forum, and take stock picks from those punters tongue.gif

but i do my own analysis la, instead of jumping in together with them.....save me time from the need to go thru each stocks.

yes I invests (or trades) stocks that have fundamentals.
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Seems O & G stocks are into plays hmm.gif
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post Jun 13 2013, 01:52 PM

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QUOTE(ciahcra @ Jun 13 2013, 01:12 PM)
I'm out from the market for the time being.....gonna concentrate on my f&b business smile.gif

P/s: not totally out la, maybe gonna buy few dividend paying shares, and leave my money there tongue.gif

P/s: my other thread with regard to my f&b business

       https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2529819

       I'd really appreciate if you guys could give some input/opinion/critics. Thanks.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Congratulations.

I believe you have made the right decisions.

Some shares are meant to be " auto piloting " than depending on the ever changing charts , that could consume more time than you could afford.

Best Regards .

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post Jun 15 2013, 12:17 PM

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QUOTE(ciahcra @ Jun 15 2013, 08:15 AM)
My strategies are:

1. In uptrend, I will go Long on Dip

2. In downtrend, I will Short on Rally

3. In sideways market, I'd most probably stay away....if you still want to trade, buy at support sell at resistance. but I will only do it if the sideways movement is wide enough

Since our stock market can only buy, so only 1 and 3 can be used. However, for strategy 3, I find it very difficult to implement on our stock market due to tight movement during market consolidation. So most of the time, in order to make money, only strategy 1 will be useful. more often than not, you'll lose money in strategy 3, not to mention strategy 2.
The question is, how you define what the current trend is?
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Nice thumbup.gif

Thanks for all your sharing. notworthy.gif

I guess it is a " down" trend . maybe due to less cash available in the markets ( cash withdrawal syndrome ? ) , but kinda soft landing than hard landing because of local funds strong support.

Just my view only.

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post Oct 24 2013, 10:04 AM

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wrong posting

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post Dec 6 2013, 11:50 AM

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QUOTE(gark @ Dec 6 2013, 10:51 AM)
Yes you are right.. net of  232 mil debt the share value is about 5.60/share..  tongue.gif

Stupid bank.. until now nearly 3 months, near deadline still no news.. later at expiry date decide to announced cancel deal pulak..  doh.gif
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Last time , I love to play M & A stocks , but now I do not .

The main reason is I find out , most M & A are like having boy and girl relationships , very fragile to break away, and later maybe reunion again hmm.gif Lot of guessing n waiting here and there. Now u see and next u do not kinda thing..

Just my own analysis.......

Like what WB says, learning to be Temperament than to be Smart. Sori, do not mean to preach anything here.

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QUOTE(gark @ Dec 6 2013, 12:14 PM)
There is always risk in investment... depending on how we minimize it only.. by buying at the correct valuation wink.gif
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True also,.

Lot of time spent to follow those sensitive info linked to M & A , sometimes may be purposely given to mislead too. Care has to taken.

Regards

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QUOTE(gark @ Dec 6 2013, 01:56 PM)
PE = price/earnings.. example EPS RM 0.1/year, price is RM 1 then PE = 0.1/1 = 10x
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INTP is listed with 0.0019 sell price in my Jstock , low is 0.0018 hmm.gif

How to interpret that yawn.gif

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QUOTE(gark @ Dec 6 2013, 02:01 PM)
You in correct stock exchange or not...  tongue.gif
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Oh I see, I list INTP under Bursa , now must go to Indonesia one hmm.gif

INTP also got 2 , so it is INTP.JK , right ?

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QUOTE(gark @ Dec 6 2013, 02:07 PM)
yes.. you are right.  tongue.gif
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Really not get used to 18000 kinda of thing, my mostly below 1.00 laugh.gif
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QUOTE(gark @ Dec 11 2013, 11:37 AM)
Just practicing my calculation.. this is not a recommendation ha.  rolleyes.gif

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Correct or not?  hmm.gif
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Hi Sifu ,

Sori to bother u for a while..

Let say the PE of a co is 5X , Net cash is 41sen a share. EPS is 11sen

How much the 41sen bring down the PE of 5x .

Thanks

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QUOTE(gark @ Dec 11 2013, 12:00 PM)
Theoretical PE for net cash company...

(Price/share - net cash/share)/(Recurring EPS)

One off EPS gain is usually not counted...
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The problem , I find it confusing is Net Cash per share = Mkt price per share , getting Zero or negative hmm.gif

(Price/share - net cash/share) = Zero hmm.gif or PE of 0.1818 laugh.gif if mkt price is up by 2 sen

How rclxub.gif

" Improved balance sheet with net cash matching market cap " analyst report

" Earnings on strong upward trajectory underpinned by ~RM800m unbilled sales (4x FY13 property development revenue) and RM1.5bn launch pipeline in prime locations. Improved balance sheet with net cash matching market cap; potential to declare dividends in FY14. Attractive valuation (0.3x P/RNAV, 5x FY14F PE). Fair value of RM0.65 based on 50% discount to RNAV of RM1.30, implying 57% upside potential."

Thanks, anyway for yr valuable input

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QUOTE(gark @ Dec 11 2013, 01:03 PM)
If net cash > market price is known as Graham's net net stock.

You buy the share but get the business for free.  wink.gif
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O I see ,

I often hear about net net stock, but could not bother to find out what it really means ....

Now I stand a chance to know better.......

Thanks for the explanation

Time for me to read the Little Book now yawn.gif
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QUOTE(gark @ Dec 11 2013, 01:18 PM)
But be sure that the the 'net cash per share' is inclusive of loan stocks, warrants etc etc... wink.gif
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True also....

No warrants issued . But loan stock issued eventually converted to shares to dilute earnings.....but earnings could jump at faster rate ....than the dilution...

Loan stock issued is to exchange for a commercial Building with some 8% guaranteed return.....

But overall future earning growth could be dynamics .......even though the new commercial bought yield is so so only .

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QUOTE(felixmask @ Dec 11 2013, 01:42 PM)
Hi Sky,

Mind to share what is ur Little BOOK.
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Litttle Book of Valuation by ASWATH DAMODARAN

BTW, Besides valuations , I do like Sharks present in a particular co.

So I do not buy purely on valuations alone i.e the most undervalued ones may not be selected....

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QUOTE(gark @ Jan 10 2014, 12:31 PM)
Give rupiah...  laugh.gif

You wanna give me angpow?  brows.gif
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Ah Moi Lamb is waiting for your ( Abang Gark ) return....... icon_idea.gif

Have a safe journey back anyway........

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post Jan 23 2014, 12:06 PM

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QUOTE(jonchai @ Jan 23 2014, 11:54 AM)
What's Ah Lian?
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post Feb 7 2014, 10:32 AM

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QUOTE(foofoosasa @ Feb 7 2014, 10:29 AM)
Boss gark, ada tips?
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QUOTE(gark @ Feb 7 2014, 10:37 AM)
Hahaha... laughing at me ah?  tongue.gif
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No lah, 6688 is just your unique trade mark....... yawn.gif

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