never know that bursa trader can achieve V2 !!
Bursa Traders Thread V2, waaa! V2 d !
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 Jan 7 2013, 10:27 AM, updated 12y ago
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never know that bursa trader can achieve V2 !! |
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Jan 7 2013, 02:37 PM
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To celebrate the opening of new thread... must give tips lah.
 » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « You need to ring bell loud loud la. That magika dunno holidaying where jor!  |
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Jan 7 2013, 02:51 PM
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Checking in. Damn busy these days. Good luck all.
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Jan 7 2013, 03:56 PM
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» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « today morning sudah shout adventa.. no meh?  watch supermx lo... bird flu everywhere... buy supermx-cg  100% mah we aim...  This post has been edited by kueyteowlou: Jan 7 2013, 03:58 PM |
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QUOTE(Medufsaid @ Jan 7 2013, 02:51 PM) Checking in. Damn busy these days. Good luck all.   ada busy ada money mah.... |
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Jan 7 2013, 04:12 PM
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Wah big money come for Chef Long jor!
houyeahhhh! » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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Jan 7 2013, 04:13 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jan 7 2013, 04:12 PM) Wah big money come for Chef Long jor! houyeahhhh! » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « money money homeee pls!! u got what counter introduce mari? harvest ah?  |
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Jan 7 2013, 04:23 PM
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Me got nothing much to introduce leh. Where is taikor Ah Tan? |
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jan 7 2013, 04:23 PM) Me got nothing much to introduce leh. Where is taikor Ah Tan?  ah tan ?!!? |
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Jan 7 2013, 05:14 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jan 7 2013, 04:23 PM) Me got nothing much to introduce leh. Where is taikor Ah Tan?  Oh is 2013, how is your performance for 2012? |
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Jan 7 2013, 06:01 PM
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Futures closed down 15 points to a 7 point dc. Closed at 1684.5. Short another position at 1702
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Jan 7 2013, 06:38 PM
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Jan 7 2013, 05:14 PM) did u summon me? Oh is 2013, how is your performance for 2012? Daytime cannot talk .... 2012 is ok for me. Hope to do better this year.  » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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Jan 7 2013, 08:15 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jan 7 2013, 06:38 PM) Daytime cannot talk .... 2012 is ok for me. Hope to do better this year. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « This post has been edited by yhtan: Jan 7 2013, 08:16 PM |
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Jan 7 2013, 09:51 PM
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Check-in.
Everybody HUAT AH  Big fat angpow coming! |
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Jan 8 2013, 08:30 AM
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Jan 7 2013, 08:15 PM) day time working as white collar? » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « No collar lah.. That was just a saying... daytime no can talk ... Hantu. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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Jan 8 2013, 08:52 AM
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walao u guys so rich... DLADY....
i only play this kind counter... http://www.bursamalaysia.com/market/listed...cements/1168149 LOL! anyway.. pls avoid it... thank you... |
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Jan 8 2013, 08:58 AM
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today super star.. amedia  sudah turn shxt-star This post has been edited by kueyteowlou: Jan 8 2013, 09:16 AM |
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Jan 8 2013, 09:39 AM
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7 early 8 early let Chef tailou hold!
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Jan 8 2013, 09:40 AM
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another day of lau sai
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Jan 8 2013, 09:42 AM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jan 8 2013, 09:39 AM) 7 early 8 early let Chef tailou hold! » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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Jan 8 2013, 10:48 AM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jan 8 2013, 08:30 AM) No collar lah.. That was just a saying... daytime no can talk ... Hantu. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Jan 8 2013, 08:58 AM) today super star.. amedia sudah turn shxt-star |
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Jan 9 2013, 09:02 AM
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Jan 8 2013, 10:48 AM) big taukeh spotted » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Yea, we are all different. Me is a still basically a trader. How about a 7 early 8 early rant from me? Not to say that passive income is unimportant but I think the way people invest just for dividends is badly abused here. Investing for dividends is not a bad concept but in the stock market, investors should never forget that stock itself is not a constant. The stock can move up or down in price. Meaning to say that despite a stock giving out 'good' dividends can still go down in price. One can actually 'lose' money despite collecting their dividends. Best real example, of course is no other than Panamy. Remember those SCARY cheer leading calls to buy/invest Panamy for its SPECIAL dividends last year? IIRM Panamy was around 22 or 23 then. Panamy only paid 1.20 in dividends for calender year 2012. Panamy now trades at how much? How much dividends did Panamy gave out in calender year 2011? Why so much less? Did anyone here at Lowyat mention this issue or is the company paying less dividends acceptable? Look in the Panamy thread. I remeber seeing one posting declaring "Dividends FTW! " Does the poster know that Panamy gave out much less dividends last year?  |
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Jan 9 2013, 09:57 AM
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It's been awhile, V2 already!!!!
Although it's 1 week late, but I still wanna wish Happy new year to all traders year. may this year be a very prosperous year for all of us! new year gift: SENDAI  Weekly chart of Eversendai. Notice the divergence between the price and the stochastic. Personally, I like to use this method as I find it pretty reliable, at least after I run some back test, and from my own experience using the method. Nonetheless, this is not a buy call, just to share my opinion. Cheers |
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Jan 9 2013, 10:12 AM
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ciahcra: Happy New Year to you too!
And as usual, many thanks for your contribution. I opinion that fundamental understanding is needed for a stock like Sendai. Stock had performed like *** since its debut and its earnings performance has been lackluster too. I think the problem lies in the fact that not many understand what this company do or what this company is all about.  I am no exception. I always regarded this as a steel stock but my friend corrected me and said that this should be a construction stock but then recently I read that Eversendai is venturing into Oil and Gas. Very confusing. |
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Jan 9 2013, 10:24 AM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jan 9 2013, 10:12 AM) ciahcra: Happy New Year to you too! Never in my radar before, and yes, fundamental understanding is important for any stocks. without fundamental, technical will be useless in my opinion.And as usual, many thanks for your contribution. I opinion that fundamental understanding is needed for a stock like Sendai. Stock had performed like *** since its debut and its earnings performance has been lackluster too. I think the problem lies in the fact that not many understand what this company do or what this company is all about. I am no exception. I always regarded this as a steel stock but my friend corrected me and said that this should be a construction stock but then recently I read that Eversendai is venturing into Oil and Gas. Very confusing. I think the lacklustre in the share performance ever since the listing is because the construction sector in general were not doing well. Talk about bad timing But most IBs said construction will pickup in 2013, and I figure this is the counter that have not move up yet, so might be worth to look at and study the fundamental of this company. venturing into O&G? based on their expertise i.e. construction, could they be building rigs? or maybe processing plant? I don't know....haha |
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Jan 9 2013, 11:27 AM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jan 9 2013, 10:12 AM) ciahcra: Happy New Year to you too! Sendai is more into fabricating steel, especially high rise building steel material.And as usual, many thanks for your contribution. I opinion that fundamental understanding is needed for a stock like Sendai. Stock had performed like *** since its debut and its earnings performance has been lackluster too. I think the problem lies in the fact that not many understand what this company do or what this company is all about. I am no exception. I always regarded this as a steel stock but my friend corrected me and said that this should be a construction stock but then recently I read that Eversendai is venturing into Oil and Gas. Very confusing. The oil and gas is through acquisition share of Technic in singapore stock exchange This post has been edited by yhtan: Jan 9 2013, 02:41 PM |
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Jan 9 2013, 11:57 AM
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condom stock! hoot ah!!
i mean Takaso |
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Jan 9 2013, 12:06 PM
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Jan 9 2013, 11:57 AM) condom stock! hoot ah!! 2013 no babe BOOM i mean Takaso  |
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Jan 9 2013, 12:15 PM
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QUOTE(felixmask @ Jan 9 2013, 12:06 PM) 2013 no babe BOOM i dun like to hold a stock more than 2hrs... » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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Jan 9 2013, 01:51 PM
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Jan 9 2013, 12:15 PM) i dun like to hold a stock more than 2hrs... » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « I prefer hold atleast 3 month(TURTLE GAMBLER)...different strategic. 
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Jan 9 2013, 02:53 PM
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Why trading must have a time frame limit one?
Isn't this like playing with a handicap? |
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Jan 9 2013, 02:55 PM
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no patient holding mahhhh !! u see itu takasoooo !! alamakk
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Jan 9 2013, 03:02 PM
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Why no patience?
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Jan 9 2013, 03:53 PM
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young boy where got patient to wait one...
everything want fast... play superstar of the day mah.... hit and run lo... |
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Jan 9 2013, 04:13 PM
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Jan 9 2013, 03:53 PM) young boy where got patient to wait one... When I was young boy, I also like everything fast, but sadly, hit run method almost always fail in stocks, at least on my analysis.everything want fast... play superstar of the day mah.... hit and run lo... |
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Jan 9 2013, 04:26 PM
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QUOTE(Dolphee @ Jan 9 2013, 04:13 PM) When I was young boy, I also like everything fast, but sadly, hit run method almost always fail in stocks, at least on my analysis. depend on which counter u hit lo.... dont tell me u want to use scalping skill on uncle's stock mah.......... quite impossible to scalp when a counter no volume also.... got few playing style in malaysia stock market... bid play, volume play... depend on which one u like lo... and also how big ur capital.... the reason im jumping in FKLI & CPO.. because i only holding small knife... want chop big tree loh.... just a small kid with little capital 2sen worth comment only.... |
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Jan 9 2013, 07:25 PM
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Jan 9 2013, 04:26 PM) depend on which counter u hit lo.... dont tell me u want to use scalping skill on uncle's stock mah.......... quite impossible to scalp when a counter no volume also.... got few playing style in malaysia stock market... bid play, volume play... depend on which one u like lo... and also how big ur capital.... the reason im jumping in FKLI & CPO.. because i only holding small knife... want chop big tree loh.... just a small kid with little capital 2sen worth comment only.... |
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Jan 9 2013, 07:30 PM
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QUOTE(ciahcra @ Jan 9 2013, 09:57 AM) It's been awhile, V2 already!!!! "Recent" Price Target http://klse.i3investor.com/servlets/stk/5205.jsp Although it's 1 week late, but I still wanna wish Happy new year to all traders year. may this year be a very prosperous year for all of us! new year gift: SENDAI » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Weekly chart of Eversendai. Notice the divergence between the price and the stochastic. Personally, I like to use this method as I find it pretty reliable, at least after I run some back test, and from my own experience using the method. Nonetheless, this is not a buy call, just to share my opinion. Cheers 03/12/2012 1.35 1.93 +0.58 (42.96%) BUY TA 03/12/2012 1.35 2.14 +0.79 (58.52%) BUY RHB 03/12/2012 1.35 2.08 +0.73 (54.07%) BUY MIDF 03/12/2012 1.35 2.00 +0.65 (48.15%) BUY MAYBANK 03/12/2012 1.35 1.44 +0.09 (6.67%) HOLD KENANGA 03/12/2012 1.35 2.00 +0.65 (48.15%) BUY HLG 03/12/2012 1.35 1.78 +0.43 (31.85%) BUY ALLIANCE Looks tempting. Have to add this to my monitoring list as well |
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Jan 9 2013, 08:57 PM
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QUOTE(ham_revilo @ Jan 9 2013, 07:25 PM) to jump around in FCPO you need a big knife le. where got small lol yeah, you need big knife to jump around in futures. FCPO margin is RM7000 per lot, where got small!! |
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Jan 9 2013, 09:37 PM
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QUOTE(ciahcra @ Jan 9 2013, 08:57 PM) lol yeah, you need big knife to jump around in futures. FCPO margin is RM7000 per lot, where got small!! RM6k can trade 5contracts mah......................... small small main only.... my rate super low ... RM7 per turn only... |
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Jan 10 2013, 08:26 AM
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Jan 9 2013, 03:53 PM) young boy where got patient to wait one... everything want fast... play superstar of the day mah.... hit and run lo... Just pulling your leg la! » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « I have known one good hitter. Anyone can develop their own system. And most of the time the system will work. However, the biggest key really is understanding in the markets there exists musim. And if the musim (season la. ) is not ngam. no matter how geng the the system is, the results can be disastrous.Knowing the musim and knowing how important to sit it out is important. I am a terrible hitter. That is why I need time on my side and not having time work against me. This post has been edited by Boon3: Jan 10 2013, 08:27 AM |
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Jan 10 2013, 09:23 AM
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guess shud be property trend...
DRB sell on news.. becareful..... watch mudajaya bah |
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Jan 10 2013, 10:17 AM
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Jan 9 2013, 09:37 PM) RM6k can trade 5contracts mah......................... small small main only.... my rate super low ... RM7 per turn only... btw RM6k can trade 5 contracts? what contract is that? i thought CPO margin is currently RM7k, not sure about FKLI though, but i think more than RM2k |
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Jan 10 2013, 10:40 AM
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QUOTE(ciahcra @ Jan 10 2013, 10:17 AM) really? very low ah your rate. which broker? btw RM6k can trade 5 contracts? what contract is that? i thought CPO margin is currently RM7k, not sure about FKLI though, but i think more than RM2k CPO RM6k can trade 5contracts..... want introduce or not? pm pm lai ------------------------------------------------------- mudajaya sell on news : http://www.theedgemalaysia.com/business-ne...re-cleared.html |
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Jan 10 2013, 11:36 AM
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Jan 10 2013, 10:40 AM) CPO RM6k can trade 5contracts..... want introduce or not? pm pm lai ------------------------------------------------------- mudajaya sell on news : http://www.theedgemalaysia.com/business-ne...re-cleared.html |
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Jan 10 2013, 02:03 PM
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QUOTE(ciahcra @ Jan 10 2013, 11:36 AM) PMed you already reply u... so noon any nice counter to watch later? how u think tenaga? long time didnt shout this counter... |
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Jan 12 2013, 01:23 PM
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What do you guys think of HHHCorp?
Looking at Stochastic, %K has intercepted %D. Good buy indicator?  Sifus please advice on fundamentals. Want to make some money before CNY This post has been edited by Eugene91: Jan 12 2013, 01:27 PM |
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Jan 13 2013, 08:55 AM
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QUOTE(Eugene91 @ Jan 12 2013, 01:23 PM) What do you guys think of HHHCorp? i guess we shouldnt use TA on goreng counter...
Looking at Stochastic, %K has intercepted %D. Good buy indicator? Sifus please advice on fundamentals. Want to make some money before CNY the chart obviously is telling u that they are accumulating... you can hentam this stock ... but the problem is .. you dont know when the stock will shoot up.... unless u know the operator lo.... Penny goreng look for FA 1 meh? look for WOK and OIL 1 mah..... |
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Jan 13 2013, 11:57 AM
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@kueyteowlou
Any of them on your watchlist or you recommend? I missed JOHOTIN already.. was busy the past few weeks RM1.57 and on last friday already RM1.88 No time to monitor everyday huhu.. |
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Jan 13 2013, 04:27 PM
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QUOTE(Eugene91 @ Jan 13 2013, 11:57 AM) @kueyteowlou to be honest... for swing trading... im not really good on it.. especially RM0.30 stocks above....Any of them on your watchlist or you recommend? I missed JOHOTIN already.. was busy the past few weeks RM1.57 and on last friday already RM1.88 No time to monitor everyday huhu.. im a punter.... so i can consider myself as full time trader... as i got time to monitor market... might be different situation from u.... so you have to find out urself.... u r looking on EOD chart or Minutes chart lo..... btw... im just a newbie |
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Jan 13 2013, 05:47 PM
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Let us all learn together then, at least you have started trading already. While I just entered
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Jan 14 2013, 08:41 AM
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Jan 9 2013, 03:53 PM) young boy where got patient to wait one... Don't have to be a superstar all the time la. everything want fast... play superstar of the day mah.... hit and run lo... I know I tak boleh but if you can, good for you. Some stocks, you can just let it sit and watch it grow. Remeber Redtone? I still have. |
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Jan 14 2013, 08:43 AM
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QUOTE(Eugene91 @ Jan 13 2013, 05:47 PM) Let us all learn together then, at least you have started trading already. While I just entered Welkom Eugene! |
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Jan 14 2013, 08:59 AM
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QUOTE(Eugene91 @ Jan 12 2013, 01:23 PM) What do you guys think of HHHCorp? Eugene: This is a new bird.
Looking at Stochastic, %K has intercepted %D. Good buy indicator? Sifus please advice on fundamentals. Want to make some money before CNY Listed not too long ago. The chart looks like it is going sideways only and a sideways chart could go sideways for a long time. And sometimes despite the 'lesser' risk it offers, holding on a stock going sideways can be really frustrating because one is like waiting forever and ever for the action to begin and a lesser patience stock player could sellout in frustration from all the waiting. From a fundamental point of view, the sideways movement makes sense since it's a 'new' stock and the current price does not offer any incentive (based on fundamentals) for one to purchase cos there isn't much earnings data for anyone to make an intelligent guess if this stock would be a good investment or an lemon. However, it's a 'cheap' penny stock and 'many' would just collect the stock based on this 'cheap' factor alone. |
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Jan 14 2013, 03:19 PM
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brother , sister , with last week chart for KLCI
do u guys believe will drop to 1683.5 below closing ? or same ? 1682.0-1684.5 in closing ...wish to win some money today  |
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Jan 14 2013, 03:46 PM
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QUOTE(bertdeen30 @ Jan 14 2013, 03:19 PM) brother , sister , with last week chart for KLCI dont have to predict...do u guys believe will drop to 1683.5 below closing ? or same ? 1682.0-1684.5 in closing ...wish to win some money today just follow it lo... if against ur wish.. cut loss lo....  |
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Jan 15 2013, 04:31 PM
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24 hours only hit my TP . im still holding drop BA drop BA lol !
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Jan 16 2013, 08:05 AM
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ciahcra: I see Sendai with positive news last night.
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Jan 16 2013, 03:26 PM
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ALAM anyone? Can reach at least RM1.1?
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Jan 16 2013, 03:51 PM
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QUOTE(Eugene91 @ Jan 16 2013, 03:26 PM) ALAM anyone? Can reach at least RM1.1? i doubt it ... 79cents to 90cents... good profit d lo... im not greedy also.... |
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Jan 16 2013, 03:54 PM
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I just thought of buying at RM0.90..
Let's see what happens at 4:30pm then. Don't think can rely on T.A. on this huh? |
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Jan 16 2013, 05:08 PM
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QUOTE(Eugene91 @ Jan 16 2013, 03:54 PM) I just thought of buying at RM0.90.. I think can go lagila...this is the first rise after the first pullback...interested osoLet's see what happens at 4:30pm then. Don't think can rely on T.A. on this huh? |
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Jan 16 2013, 05:12 PM
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QUOTE(hyzam1212 @ Jan 16 2013, 05:08 PM) I think can go lagila...this is the first rise after the first pullback...interested oso  Now eyeing DSCSOL as well, wondering why the sudden drop and selling this month. |
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Jan 16 2013, 05:17 PM
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QUOTE(Eugene91 @ Jan 16 2013, 05:12 PM) Now eyeing DSCSOL as well, wondering why the sudden drop and selling this month. |
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Jan 16 2013, 05:55 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jan 16 2013, 08:05 AM) ciahcra: I see Sendai with positive news last night. positive news also price not going up much...haihmaybe because no trading interest, especially from day trader.  |
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Jan 16 2013, 06:23 PM
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QUOTE(Eugene91 @ Jan 16 2013, 03:54 PM) I just thought of buying at RM0.90.. Ah Lam is trending very strongly on the back of positive set of news.Let's see what happens at 4:30pm then. Don't think can rely on T.A. on this huh? 1.10 is definitely reachable but question is 'when'. However, I suggest you to consider Chef Long's advice. Buying now at 0.90 it's gonna have its risks. It's not an ideal entry point from a trader's perspective. One question for you to consider. If you had gone in at 0.90, what's your cut-loss point (if bad luck happens and this trade turns sour) ? |
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QUOTE(ciahcra @ Jan 16 2013, 05:55 PM) positive news also price not going up much...haih Yes, I am also surprised of the 'weak' response to the news.maybe because no trading interest, especially from day trader. |
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jan 16 2013, 06:25 PM) Yes, I am also surprised of the 'weak' response to the news. today only move..... |
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better wait for retracement as it kena goreng for almist 5 days from 80 sen.
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QUOTE(Eugene91 @ Jan 16 2013, 05:12 PM) Now eyeing DSCSOL as well, wondering why the sudden drop and selling this month. because goreng up to throw shares then run like mad now lo u buy now mai have to keep until they push another round ( if lucky ) |
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Jan 17 2013, 06:47 PM
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Jan 17 2013, 01:49 PM) because goreng up to throw shares then run like mad now lo u buy now mai have to keep until they push another round ( if lucky ) |
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bump for the redness
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QUOTE(ham_revilo @ Jan 21 2013, 01:00 PM) bump for the redness bump for shorty? |
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Any recommendations kueteowlou? or wait for now?
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QUOTE(Eugene91 @ Jan 21 2013, 03:46 PM) Any recommendations kueteowlou? or wait for now? watch axiata below is the level RM6.10 RM6.14 RM6.18 RM6.22 |
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Jan 21 2013, 03:59 PM
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Oh, too I only can buy penny stocks or those RM1.XX
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short short short
1700*5%=1615. CI retreat is mild only. not strong enough |
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QUOTE(ham_revilo @ Jan 21 2013, 07:01 PM) short short short still net short 1703. 1700*5%=1615. CI retreat is mild only. not strong enough cashed out 5 contracts at 1629 , remaining let it run |
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QUOTE(teehk_tee @ Jan 21 2013, 09:37 PM) still net short 1703. cashed out 5 contracts at 1629 , remaining let it run fuyoh millionaire spotted |
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Jan 22 2013, 11:43 AM) fuyoh millionaire spotted Chef Kuey! » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « How's your trading so far? |
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can short future index now...
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-14 and counting.
Nice done GE13 |
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Feb 6 2013, 08:41 AM) Ahem! Chef Kuey! » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « How's your trading so far? hohooo !! » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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Feb 26 2013, 11:56 PM
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Chef Kuey!
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Feb 26 2013, 11:56 PM) Chef Kuey! Taikor Boon, good morning!» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Feb 27 2013, 09:26 AM) Taikor Boon, good morning! » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Good morning Ah Tan. How are you? » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Feb 27 2013, 09:33 AM) Good morning Ah Tan. How are you? » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Feb 27 2013, 09:42 AM) Not so good recently That CNY stuff is called .... err .... investment mah! » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Feb 27 2013, 09:48 AM) That CNY stuff is called .... err .... investment mah! » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Feb 27 2013, 10:07 AM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Feb 27 2013, 10:50 AM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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Feb 27 2013, 11:42 AM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Feb 27 2013, 11:00 AM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Not interested on those company, i know that area going to prosper in future 5-10 years. |
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Feb 27 2013, 11:42 AM) UEMLand, Sunway?? Not interested on those company, i know that area going to prosper in future 5-10 years. Me think same same. |
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Feb 27 2013, 11:48 AM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Feb 27 2013, 11:43 AM) Me think same same. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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Feb 27 2013, 11:51 AM
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Boon gor, I am same as u now... FCPO kaki lo now... lazy to watch so much counters.. market so boring outside there... |
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Feb 27 2013, 11:51 AM) Boon gor, I am same as u now... FCPO kaki lo now... lazy to watch so much counters.. market so boring outside there... |
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QUOTE(ciahcra @ Feb 27 2013, 03:20 PM) what happen to FKLI? still trading when see something lo... so much boring compare with CPO... CPO cincai tembak also 10pts +++ big and small fish different lo |
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Feb 27 2013, 11:51 AM) Boon gor, I am same as u now... FCPO kaki lo now... lazy to watch so much counters.. market so boring outside there... Waawaaa .... terror nya! |
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Feb 28 2013, 10:05 AM) FCPO kaki liao? Waawaaa .... terror nya! » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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Ah Tan,
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QUOTE(ciahcra @ Feb 28 2013, 12:11 PM) i also jobless now. haha. anyone want to hire me to trade for them? bro, your 1 hand press 500lots CPO leh... dont kidding me |
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Feb 28 2013, 02:31 PM
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hi , all professional bro .
what you all expect the march forecast . on KLCI. after holiday , missing my way |
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Feb 28 2013, 12:59 PM) bro, your 1 hand press 500lots CPO leh... dont kidding me |
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QUOTE(ciahcra @ Feb 28 2013, 05:06 PM) that's freaking 3.5 millions already as initial margin. If i have that kind of money, I'll just put it in TH, earning 5-6% a year is more than enough for me. no heart attack when seeing price moving in the opposite direction as i expected. haha big trader like u... sap sap water.. anyway.... anyone get trapped in KHSB? sigh.... here is the news... http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?f...57&sec=business |
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Mar 3 2013, 11:32 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Feb 28 2013, 10:12 AM) Ah Tan, » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Mar 3 2013, 11:32 PM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « have u saw the AMEDIA berhad main office before? this berhad is just shoplot office only... in cheap area somemore... |
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Mar 4 2013, 09:21 AM) ahtan gor... i know, that area shoplot is cheap have u saw the AMEDIA berhad main office before? this berhad is just shoplot office only... in cheap area somemore... I don't mind that but first thing company must be able to generate handsome profit |
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Mar 4 2013, 11:09 AM) i know, that area shoplot is cheap I don't mind that but first thing company must be able to generate handsome profit » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Mar 4 2013, 11:20 AM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « So recently u goreng goreng KLCI and FCPO? |
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Mar 4 2013, 11:37 AM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « So recently u goreng goreng KLCI and FCPO? bear or bull .. u still can survive in this market lo... not like equity.. bear market.. no different with dumping money into sea...  FKLI just too slow compare with FCPO... |
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UEM Land not too bad.
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Ah Lam not too bad also.
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Mar 4 2013, 12:59 PM) mostly CPO lo... Hi Chef, long time din check in here, how r u doing....now u goreng fcpo ahh....when u push or press, please inform 1st, kasi chance tumpang u ya...haha...bear or bull .. u still can survive in this market lo... not like equity.. bear market.. no different with dumping money into sea... FKLI just too slow compare with FCPO... This post has been edited by turbochart: Mar 6 2013, 10:37 PM |
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QUOTE(turbochart @ Mar 6 2013, 10:37 PM) Hi Chef, long time din check in here, how r u doing....now u goreng fcpo ahh....when u push or press, please inform 1st, kasi chance tumpang u ya...haha...  Masta is here. Any tipsy? |
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QUOTE(turbochart @ Mar 6 2013, 10:37 PM) Hi Chef, long time din check in here, how r u doing....now u goreng fcpo ahh....when u push or press, please inform 1st, kasi chance tumpang u ya...haha... last 2days...like playing ping pong.. today finally can do shorting... |
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Mar 7 2013, 12:10 PM) last 2days... Now you have developed ping pong strokes..... like playing ping pong.. today finally can do shorting... » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Mar 7 2013, 12:25 PM) Now you have developed ping pong strokes.....
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Mar 7 2013, 12:33 PM
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I need new ping pong set.
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QUOTE(ciahcra @ Mar 7 2013, 12:33 PM) I need new ping pong set. Haha!Harloo.. you very malas nowadays. Why you so long you no post a chart? When was the last time you posted a chart? Why? Why? » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Mar 7 2013, 12:38 PM) Haha! no position for stocks, and not looking to enter equities at the moment.....so no point to post charts also. Harloo.. you very malas nowadays. Why you so long you no post a chart? When was the last time you posted a chart? Why? Why? » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « plus my bursastation expired, now just renewed so might post again sometime soon |
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Better late than nothing........ I shall wait!
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is this a daytrading thread or a thread for bursa station, dont mind me asking
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need a training room for my pingpong business..
any one got introduce? bursa station per month how much? nextview webbased RM40 per month if not mistaken right? for FCPO and FKLI only |
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 FCPO on Flickr FCPO 5 mins chart. not looking at stocks atm, so maybe i'll just post fcpo or fkli for the time being.... |
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Mar 7 2013, 12:44 PM) need a training room for my pingpong business.. what do u need training room for? my office still go empty chair inside my room any one got introduce? bursa station per month how much? nextview webbased RM40 per month if not mistaken right? for FCPO and FKLI only burstation got 2 option, 1 is basic, and another 1 is pro. Basic is web based i think. I'm using pro version. for pro, if u want charts and data for derivatives only (that is, FKLI and FCPO), starts from RM563 for 6 month and RM958 for 12 months. refer here: http://www.bursastation.com/users/register...ibeProContainer |
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QUOTE(ciahcra @ Mar 7 2013, 12:50 PM) what do u need training room for? my office still go empty chair inside my room burstation got 2 option, 1 is basic, and another 1 is pro. Basic is web based i think. I'm using pro version. for pro, if u want charts and data for derivatives only (that is, FKLI and FCPO), starts from RM563 for 6 month and RM958 for 12 months. refer here: http://www.bursastation.com/users/register...ibeProContainer pm pm lai... |
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whoops i think i join wrong room ler
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QUOTE(mabsandcals @ Mar 7 2013, 12:55 PM) whoops i think i join wrong room ler you're expecting discussion on stocks? FKLI? thread title is Bursa traders, so i guess everything under Bursa falls here this is fklci , paiseh paiseh |
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QUOTE(ciahcra @ Mar 7 2013, 12:57 PM) you're expecting discussion on stocks? FKLI? thread title is Bursa traders, so i guess everything under Bursa falls here oh oh , then i think i hit the right spot here kua ; didnt know got a diff thread here |
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QUOTE(mabsandcals @ Mar 7 2013, 12:55 PM) whoops i think i join wrong room ler If you want to talk stocks, can lah... this is fklci , paiseh paiseh I can talk talk wif you. |
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not only stock all also can layan
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hello boon, ciahcra and kueyteow chef , hopefully wok all panas2
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QUOTE(mabsandcals @ Mar 7 2013, 01:00 PM) not only stock all also can layan Sounding good. |
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QUOTE(mabsandcals @ Mar 7 2013, 01:01 PM) hello boon, ciahcra and kueyteow chef , hopefully wok all panas2 got stock tip please share2 |
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QUOTE(ciahcra @ Mar 7 2013, 01:04 PM) got stock tip please share2 basically realtime market sentiment nia for me also come to look see on this side |
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I don't have any at the moment because of uncertainty of GE, and now with the shit that happening in Sabah, i rather be on safe side, and keep my cash.
Fund managers normally are not allowed to be reckless during period of uncertainty. So I'm afraid the push up of KLCI this past few days are created by them to dump their holding.. My 2 cents only |
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we're just following world markets, especially DJIA and asean rise, however i might be a EU rate thing going on today causing a flat for today
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 YTLPOWR YTLPOWR Weekly chart Forming wedge, with bullish divergence btw price and RSI, indicating strength. I suspect accumulation. Same goes to the 'anak', YTLPOWR-WB  YTLPOWR-WB Broke the down trendline with exceptionally high volume, couple with bullish divergence in RSI, and triple bottom formation. Strong support could be seen at 0.36-0.37 Anyone care to highlight the fundamental of this counter? If I'm not mistaken, they are not paying interim dividend for the first time in 5 years, which could mean their cash pile is increasing, and create speculation that they might be taken private, or will use the cash for future investment. |
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QUOTE(ciahcra @ Mar 7 2013, 02:42 PM) If I'm not mistaken, they are not paying interim dividend for the first time in 5 years, which could mean their cash pile is increasing, and create speculation that they might be taken private, or will use the cash for future investment. Some views from me. Yes, they are not paying any interim dividend. I bet this had pissed many off and would explain the poor share performance the past 2 months. Yes, cash pile increased but one should take into consideration that total borrowings is also huge. The private issue. Ytl Cement was taken private via share swap and speculation is if YTL would taken YTLP private, it would be via a share swap also. IINM YTL Cement's share swap offer wasn't generous and I doubt if YTLP is taken private, YTL would be generous. Me? I would give this a pass. |
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Mar 7 2013, 03:05 PM) Some views from me. Good view from TA by Ciahcra, look like privatization is around the corner based on his analysis.Yes, they are not paying any interim dividend. I bet this had pissed many off and would explain the poor share performance the past 2 months. Yes, cash pile increased but one should take into consideration that total borrowings is also huge. The private issue. Ytl Cement was taken private via share swap and speculation is if YTL would taken YTLP private, it would be via a share swap also. IINM YTL Cement's share swap offer wasn't generous and I doubt if YTLP is taken private, YTL would be generous. Me? I would give this a pass. But from YTL view, why would they privatize its subsidiary which in net debt of RM13bil+- I recalled YTL Cement is in net cash position when they privatize it, but YTL Power is in opposite situation » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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Top futures broker, apologies the edge hard to copy and paste http://www.theedgemalaysia.com/business-ne...res-broker.html This post has been edited by mabsandcals: Mar 7 2013, 03:42 PM |
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QUOTE(mabsandcals @ Mar 7 2013, 03:41 PM) ooo Use Mozilla Firefox, and disable the JavaScript which is causing you to fail to open new windows, copy and paste etc. as follows:Top futures broker, apologies the edge hard to copy and paste http://www.theedgemalaysia.com/business-ne...res-broker.html 1. Tools (Alt-T) >> Options >> Content 2. On "Enable Javascript" (you can keep it ticked) select "Advanced" 3. In the popup of "Advanced JavaScript Settings". " Allow script to: untick "Disable or replace context menu" Happy copy and pasting etc.! |
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QUOTE(rivacordex @ Mar 7 2013, 04:11 PM) Use Mozilla Firefox, and disable the JavaScript which is causing you to fail to open new windows, copy and paste etc. as follows: Many thanks 1. Tools (Alt-T) >> Options >> Content 2. On "Enable Javascript" (you can keep it ticked) select "Advanced" 3. In the popup of "Advanced JavaScript Settings". " Allow script to: untick "Disable or replace context menu" Happy copy and pasting etc.! doesnt work for chrome ? sorry im for bugging oops ok got it here http://www.thewindowsclub.com/disable-java...e-firefox-opera This post has been edited by mabsandcals: Mar 7 2013, 04:27 PM |
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Mar 7 2013, 03:05 PM) Some views from me. Yeah huge debt, hence not making sense to privatise it. And YTL are known to be not generous, either in dividend or privatisation. Let see what they have up their sleeves, and whether the action are justified by the price action Yes, they are not paying any interim dividend. I bet this had pissed many off and would explain the poor share performance the past 2 months. Yes, cash pile increased but one should take into consideration that total borrowings is also huge. The private issue. Ytl Cement was taken private via share swap and speculation is if YTL would taken YTLP private, it would be via a share swap also. IINM YTL Cement's share swap offer wasn't generous and I doubt if YTLP is taken private, YTL would be generous. Me? I would give this a pass. |
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Anyway if RSI goes above 50, i might consider taking position
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News Highlight Petronas proposes RM27b dividend for Fed Govt
Business & Markets 2013 Written by Lee Wen Ai of theedgemalaysia.com Thursday, 07 March 2013 16:25 KUALA LUMPUR (March 7): The board of directors of Petronas has proposed a tax-exempt final dividend RM27 billion in respect of the financial year ended 31 Dec 2012 for its only shareholder -- the Federal Government. At a press conference today, reporters were told that Petroliam Nasional Bhd’s (Petronas) net profit after tax in 2012 declined 14% year-on-year to RM59.1 billion from RM68.7 billion in FY2011, while revenue rose 1% to RM291 billion from RM288.5 billion. The dividend proposed, in accordance with Section 84 of the Petroleum (Income Tax) Act, 1967, in respect of the financial year in 2012, will be tabled for shareholders' approval at the forthcoming annual general meeting. FUH tong money to gomen  |
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Mar 7 2013, 04:34 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Mar 7 2013, 03:55 PM) I was wondering when you will come and post a comment on your favourite stock....... Ah Boon Gor,» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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QUOTE(ciahcra @ Mar 7 2013, 04:31 PM) Anyway if RSI goes above 50, i might consider taking position I am looking at Incken right now. |
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Mar 7 2013, 04:34 PM) I am looking at Incken right now. interesting Attached thumbnail(s) 
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Can buy ah?
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tech rebound jor wor.. maybe see tomorrow got upper leg kua IMHO
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Mar 7 2013, 04:34 PM) I am looking at Incken right now. thank you for highlighting....I'm gonna closely monitor this one now not that I fancy YTL or anything, But I detect same pattern in this counter as in Tenaga in 2011, and MISC last year..... share price everyday down, these two companies making losses every quarter, people cursing here and there but the downward momentum were getting slower, there was divergence btw price action and indicator same story with YTL now lor....the fundamental did not support the counter, you, yhtan, even me also kinda hate it at the moment but price action might tell different story maybe 3rd time charm, or maybe a new lesson for me, who knows? of course, there are failed cases also, MAS is a perfect example, and I lost money there. But it's a money well spent for the lesson that I got. MAS never broke it's weekly down trendline. So those triangle/wedge pattern, they are biased towards their function as a continuation pattern, not reversal. This post has been edited by ciahcra: Mar 7 2013, 05:35 PM |
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ciahcra: Thinking about your comments again. I think you do have a point.
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QUOTE(mabsandcals @ Mar 7 2013, 04:47 PM) tech rebound jor wor.. maybe see tomorrow got upper leg kua IMHO A big plus factor is that the company has been buying its shares every trading day since CNY. |
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Just wondering anyone here follows KSL? It is in accumulation mode.
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good morning traders
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Mar 8 2013, 08:16 AM) good morning |
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QUOTE(Larrylow @ Mar 8 2013, 01:02 AM) Just wondering anyone here follows KSL? It is in accumulation mode. KSL was in impressive form yesterday. Is it in accumulation mode? |
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Mar 8 2013, 08:33 AM) Spammer! » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Good Luck and enjoy guys ! |
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Larry Low: I recall Mark Mobious fund buying this stock a couple years ago. I think that was in 2010 and buying range was about 1.20 or so. I remember cos I followed the buying. I have sold long ago.
Anyway, KSL should be viewed as another of the current hot Iskandar plays with KSL having several projects and land bank in Iskandar. Best of luck in your trade. |
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Hot Stock Scomi rises 6.1% on Petronas Carigali contract
Business & Markets 2013 Written by Charlotte Chong of the edgedaily.com Friday, 08 March 2013 10:15 A + / A - / Reset KUALA LUMPUR (March 8): SCOMI GROUP BHD [] emerged as the most actively traded stock at mid-morning on Friday after the company secured a contract worth RM2.1 billion from Petronas Carigali. At 9:46 am, Scomi was traded at 35 sen, up 6.1% after rising to as high as 36.5 sen with some 15.4 million shares done. Scomi told Bursa Malaysia yesterday that the contract award is expected to contribute positively towards the earnings and net assets per share of the company for the five financial years ending March 31, 2013 to 2018. The contract is to supply drilling fluids, barite materials, equipment and services for a five-year period beginning March 1, 2013. The group hopes to increase its existing order book of over RM2 billion in the oilfield service segment by participating in tenders worth in excess of US$1 billion internationally. Petronas Carigali had picked Scomi to get the lion’s share of the five-year contract under the RM8 billion to RM10 billion Pan Malaysia mega tender. In 2006, Scomi received a much smaller five-year drilling fluids contract worth US$500 million (RM1.55 billion) from Petronas. Scomi's revenue stood at RM1.59 billion and a net profit of RM18 million for its 2012 financial year ended Dec 31. The group had reported a net loss of RM232.33 million in the 2011 financial year. |
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QUOTE(ciahcra @ Mar 8 2013, 10:17 AM) SCOMI daily chart Breakout from the downtrendline. So where do one enter? |
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Mar 8 2013, 08:47 AM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Good Luck and enjoy guys ! |
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Mar 8 2013, 10:33 AM) I am just watching for now... the setup does not have my 'low risk high probability criteria'so just watching for now for me too |
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Mar 8 2013, 10:34 AM) Got IJM behind, apa apa pun boleh You sweep how hundred lots .... |
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Mar 8 2013, 10:43 AM) You sweep how hundred lots .... But but i tarak beli Too scare of falling into trap, but IJM is really good in planning ahead. KEuro is one of the best example |
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thanks god... I long FKLI today... looks like commit suicide mission.... |
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Mar 11 2013, 12:38 PM
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nice nice ajib koh ! continue shoot high FKLI pls... waiting @ the top there to short anyway... where is everyone? busy shorting FCPO ah ? |
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dear all
i am new in stock investment. i am really amazed with you all in predicting and selecting the stocks. what even amazed me is the conclusion and intepretation you all made from the chart. as a beginner, mind to tell me where should i start and where should i read to gain the fundamental knowledge when coming to stock selection and maybe timing to buy, hold or sell? please forgive me for such stupid questions. thanks again. |
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Mar 11 2013, 12:38 PM) nice nice ajib koh ! continue shoot high FKLI pls... waiting @ the top there to short anyway... where is everyone? busy shorting FCPO ah ?  FCPO 5 mins FCPO 5 mins Notice the divergence between the price and stoch. now broke the channel already.is it going to go down? I don't know My strategy is to see whether the price can go up back above 2450, and maintain in the channel. if not, I'll consider shorting If can climb back up, I'll consider long at 2453, with CL at 2444, and TP at 2470, which gives me a RRR of 2:1, an acceptable number for me No tv at office, what did ajib gave this time? This post has been edited by ciahcra: Mar 11 2013, 01:36 PM |
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QUOTE(bios @ Mar 11 2013, 12:56 PM) dear all Hi, there are no such thing as stupid questions when one is in the pursuit of knowledge. i am new in stock investment. i am really amazed with you all in predicting and selecting the stocks. what even amazed me is the conclusion and intepretation you all made from the chart. as a beginner, mind to tell me where should i start and where should i read to gain the fundamental knowledge when coming to stock selection and maybe timing to buy, hold or sell? please forgive me for such stupid questions. thanks again. Personally, when it comes to stock selection, I'll use fundamental analysis for my stock picking. Fundamental analysis including reading annual reports and their financial statements (balance sheet, income statement, cash flow etc...), learning how to interpret the info from annual reports. For example, you should learn how to interpret financial ratios (Current ratio, ROE/ROA, Debt ratio, P/E, Dividend yield etc....). Different ratios have different use. Current ratio for example to measure the liquidity of the company, ROE/ROA use to measure profitability, while Debt ratio is used to measure....well debt. P/E and Dividend yields for example are known as investment valuation ratios. Investors normally use the ratios in this category for their stock picking. For those who want to dig further about the company, then they may use other ratios mentioned above, which can be obtained from the company's annual report You can dig around the forum, or google to learn about these ratios. As for timing, that's where the TA came in. Charts gives you a visual of the price action. Without charts, it's very hard to see what are the reactions of investors to that particular stock. TA gives you an idea where you can consider buying, selling, or just don't do anything and stay out from the counter. My two favourite websites to learn the very basics of TA are: Babypips Chart school Another important things to learn, especially if you're considering trading as opposed to buy and hold, is risk and money management. For me these are the most important thing in my trading business, because I have a very limited capital, hence I need to manage it wisely to minimize losses. One important thing to remember: There is no holy grail in investing/trading. Market movement is random, and it will do whatever it wants, and it doesn't give a damn what people thinking the market should be. If you're student, I suggest you join investment challenge organize by your uni, or by stockbroker to gain more exposure in stock market, learn the mechanics etc. One of the famous one is OSK Investment Challenge (I was one of the winner back then ).Good luck. p/s: I focus more on FCPO now, because I'm too lazy to go through over 1000 stocks to select which one to go in . I already have few in my list, but to wait for opportunity to buy, it might take months/years before the opportunity comes knocking on my door. So for recurring income, I choose FCPO, because I can only focus on the timing, and risk/money management. I still review the stocks in my list once in awhile though This post has been edited by ciahcra: Mar 11 2013, 02:07 PM |
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full respect to ciahcra bro ! anyway.. today i just short FCPO by luck only... * tape reading only... no chart at all... I long FKLI too... what news jib gor giving? no tv also leh meThis post has been edited by kueyteowlou: Mar 11 2013, 02:11 PM |
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Mar 11 2013, 02:10 PM) full respect to ciahcra bro ! anyway.. today i just short FCPO by luck only... * tape reading only... no chart at all... I long FKLI too... what news jib gor giving? no tv also leh melooks like your 'short' got lots of profits already! This post has been edited by ciahcra: Mar 11 2013, 03:06 PM |
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QUOTE(ciahcra @ Mar 11 2013, 02:15 PM) Lol what do you mean 'by luck'? you just feel like shorting, and you short? looks like your 'short' got lots of profits already! trader instinct ... |
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Mar 11 2013, 03:34 PM) trader instinct ... |
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QUOTE(ciahcra @ Mar 11 2013, 03:44 PM) I'm gonna short now sometime when someone make money in the early morning.. noon time better protect profit lo.. so I am shaking leg and surfing net now... no girl to date  |
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Mar 11 2013, 03:46 PM) sometime when someone make money in the early morning.. noon time better protect profit lo.. so I am shaking leg and surfing net now... no girl to date |
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QUOTE(ciahcra @ Mar 11 2013, 03:47 PM) agree. but i haven't make any money yet today if i hold my LONG FKLI.... waaaaaaaaa... 10pts today... |
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QUOTE(ciahcra @ Mar 11 2013, 02:02 PM) Hi, there are no such thing as stupid questions when one is in the pursuit of knowledge. thanks a million for the guidancePersonally, when it comes to stock selection, I'll use fundamental analysis for my stock picking. Fundamental analysis including reading annual reports and their financial statements (balance sheet, income statement, cash flow etc...), learning how to interpret the info from annual reports. For example, you should learn how to interpret financial ratios (Current ratio, ROE/ROA, Debt ratio, P/E, Dividend yield etc....). Different ratios have different use. Current ratio for example to measure the liquidity of the company, ROE/ROA use to measure profitability, while Debt ratio is used to measure....well debt. P/E and Dividend yields for example are known as investment valuation ratios. Investors normally use the ratios in this category for their stock picking. For those who want to dig further about the company, then they may use other ratios mentioned above, which can be obtained from the company's annual report You can dig around the forum, or google to learn about these ratios. As for timing, that's where the TA came in. Charts gives you a visual of the price action. Without charts, it's very hard to see what are the reactions of investors to that particular stock. TA gives you an idea where you can consider buying, selling, or just don't do anything and stay out from the counter. My two favourite websites to learn the very basics of TA are: Babypips Chart school Another important things to learn, especially if you're considering trading as opposed to buy and hold, is risk and money management. For me these are the most important thing in my trading business, because I have a very limited capital, hence I need to manage it wisely to minimize losses. One important thing to remember: There is no holy grail in investing/trading. Market movement is random, and it will do whatever it wants, and it doesn't give a damn what people thinking the market should be. If you're student, I suggest you join investment challenge organize by your uni, or by stockbroker to gain more exposure in stock market, learn the mechanics etc. One of the famous one is OSK Investment Challenge (I was one of the winner back then ).Good luck. p/s: I focus more on FCPO now, because I'm too lazy to go through over 1000 stocks to select which one to go in . I already have few in my list, but to wait for opportunity to buy, it might take months/years before the opportunity comes knocking on my door. So for recurring income, I choose FCPO, because I can only focus on the timing, and risk/money management. I still review the stocks in my list once in awhile though appreciate it very much |
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Ah Lam doing not too bad.
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ciahcra : You so pro.
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ciahcra: Just got in incken already.
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Hot Stock Alam Maritim gains on undervaluation
Business & Markets 2013 Written by Chong Jin Hun of theedgemalaysia.com Tuesday, 12 March 2013 10:22 A + / A - / Reset KUALA LUMPUR (Mar 12): ALAM MARITIM RESOURCES BHD [] rose as much as 3% to become the most active entity in morning trades on perceived undervaluation of the oil and gas support services provider. Dealers said at current prices, Alam Maritim is trading at a discount to the stock's average fair value (FV) amid better financials. At 10.09am, Alam Maritim rose as much as 2.5 sen to its intraday high of 91.5 sen with some 9.4 million shares done. "The stock is trading below analysts’ average FV of RM1.07. Investors are also eyeing Alam Maritim's better financials," a dealer told theedgemalaysia.com. Bloomberg data show that the 11 analysts who cover Alam Maritim have FVs of between 60 sen and RM1.50 for the stock. Alam Maritim reported a higher net profit of RM60.04 million in financial year ending December 31, 2012 versus RM13.59 million a year earlier while revenue increased to RM502 million from RM308.12 million. Its latest reported book value stood at 67 sen. |
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Mar 12 2013, 08:54 AM) ciahcra : You so pro. pro? i don't think so YTLPOWR still has not move!!  Wanna follow you on Incken. 1.00 ok boss mau masuk? I've held this counter for quite long since May 2012 at 55 cents. Hold all the way until I got stopped out at 1.05 when it peaked and came back down. From May 2012 to Sept 2012, nothing happened, so I gave up, didn't watch this counter anymore until it broke 75 cents » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « This post has been edited by ciahcra: Mar 12 2013, 01:10 PM |
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 FCPO 1 Hour FCPO 1 Hour chart. Detected hidden bullish divergence. Price rebounded at Fibo 61.8 of the swing, and the trendline. 5 mins chart got showed hammer candlestick, bullish divergence and confirmation candle for reversal. I got Long position at 2420, with CL at 2410, and target 2467. Yesterday price hit my CL at 2455, lose 5 points, but I enter again at 2464 and hold overnight, take profit at 2420 |
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QUOTE(ciahcra @ Mar 12 2013, 01:02 PM) pro? i don't think so I still watch YTLP only. YTLPOWR still has not move!! Wanna follow you on Incken. 1.00 ok boss mau masuk? I've held this counter for quite long since May 2012 at 55 cents. Hold all the way until I got stopped out at 1.05 when it peaked and came back down. From May 2012 to Sept 2012, nothing happened, so I gave up, didn't watch this counter anymore until it broke 75 cents Recently. the Iskandar theme had been reignited and we saw strong movement in stocks like UEM Land and Tebrau. Focus was then focused on companies who own land bank in that region. These companies either own land bank or purchased land in that region and have yet to develop or revalue their assets. We saw good movements in stocks like KSL and even giant stock like Genting Plantation posted solid gains because report came out they own lots of land in/near that region. I see this has sort of play has caught on. Play is shifting towards plays on stocks which has properties (or land bank) that are deemed under valued because the assets has not been revalued. Example? Most leng chai stock recently is Kseng. Explosive movement which I believe is contributed by the fact this company long time no revalue its assets and of course Dali's posting http://malaysiafinance.blogspot.com/2013/0...ng-to-boil.html helped stirred some interest. Moving along same theme, ie under valued asset, should be Incken also. Net asset is above 1.77 and if its properties are valued to current valuation, this stock looks deeply under value. Reason to buy looks 'ok' for me. The other day, Incken, woke up and made a solid movement last Thursday. Stock has pulled back a little since then. The fact the stock is holding ok at the 1.00 region looks to inviting for me. It's an open door for me. And as mentioned last time, the company has been constantly buying back some stocks every day since CNY. Err.. looks like a decent bet la. Pray I am not wrong. Wrote too much jor... » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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QUOTE(ciahcra @ Mar 12 2013, 01:29 PM) FCPO 1 Hour FCPO 1 Hour chart. Detected hidden bullish divergence. Price rebounded at Fibo 61.8 of the swing, and the trendline. 5 mins chart got showed hammer candlestick, bullish divergence and confirmation candle for reversal. I got Long position at 2420, with CL at 2410, and target 2467. Yesterday price hit my CL at 2455, lose 5 points, but I enter again at 2464 and hold overnight, take profit at 2420 until now i dont dare to hold overnight... all my transaction intraday... 2464... 2420 tp.... |
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Mar 12 2013, 01:42 PM) I still watch YTLP only. Good write up. Recently. the Iskandar theme had been reignited and we saw strong movement in stocks like UEM Land and Tebrau. Focus was then focused on companies who own land bank in that region. These companies either own land bank or purchased land in that region and have yet to develop or revalue their assets. We saw good movements in stocks like KSL and even giant stock like Genting Plantation posted solid gains because report came out they own lots of land in/near that region. I see this has sort of play has caught on. Play is shifting towards plays on stocks which has properties (or land bank) that are deemed under valued because the assets has not been revalued. Example? Most leng chai stock recently is Kseng. Explosive movement which I believe is contributed by the fact this company long time no revalue its assets and of course Dali's posting http://malaysiafinance.blogspot.com/2013/0...ng-to-boil.html helped stirred some interest. Moving along same theme, ie under valued asset, should be Incken also. Net asset is above 1.77 and if its properties are valued to current valuation, this stock looks deeply under value. Reason to buy looks 'ok' for me. The other day, Incken, woke up and made a solid movement last Thursday. Stock has pulled back a little since then. The fact the stock is holding ok at the 1.00 region looks to inviting for me. It's an open door for me. And as mentioned last time, the company has been constantly buying back some stocks every day since CNY. Err.. looks like a decent bet la. Pray I am not wrong. Wrote too much jor... » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « You're right about focus on stocks which has landbanks that are deemed under valued. Incken has quite big landbank in Bangi and Kajang, which I believed had been converted from plantation land to mixed development land. Maybe gonna be a takeover target soon » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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I see nothing in those Spolier of yours.
If you would note, Crescendo (another of them Iskandar theme play) movement is very solid too. Missed this one. |
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Mar 12 2013, 02:03 PM
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Mar 12 2013, 01:56 PM) until now i dont dare to hold overnight... all my transaction intraday... 2464... 2420 tp.... If suddenly gap up, sure die my position But the probability is high, so I might as well take the risk.... This post has been edited by ciahcra: Mar 12 2013, 02:03 PM |
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Mar 12 2013, 04:20 PM
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Malaysia need more scalper to make our market to be more active... |
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Mar 12 2013, 04:35 PM
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Mar 12 2013, 04:20 PM) Malaysia need more scalper to make our market to be more active... |
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Mar 12 2013, 04:58 PM
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This thread mutates ....less talks on TA ?
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Mar 13 2013, 08:40 AM
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QUOTE(ciahcra @ Mar 12 2013, 04:35 PM) which is why I'm doing what I'm doing.....to create more scalper and intraday player You need to SHARE more stock ideas. |
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Mar 13 2013, 09:41 AM
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 congratulation who didnt get caught and follow the trend... |
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Mar 13 2013, 09:46 AM
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Good morning Chef
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Mar 13 2013, 09:49 AM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Mar 13 2013, 09:46 AM) Good morning Chef good morning! make any money today ? i made little bit d... |
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Mar 13 2013, 09:57 AM
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Mar 13 2013, 09:49 AM) good morning! make any money today ? i made little bit d... Any tipsy? |
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Mar 13 2013, 09:58 AM
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Mar 13 2013, 10:01 AM
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QUOTE(ciahcra @ Mar 13 2013, 09:58 AM) Looks ok what, trend still intact Errr .... good morning. |
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Mar 13 2013, 10:04 AM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Mar 13 2013, 09:57 AM) Took profit on Ah Lam yesterday, so today shaking is my legs. Any tipsy? » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « @ciahcra » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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Mar 13 2013, 10:20 AM
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Mar 13 2013, 10:04 AM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « @ciahcra » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « nxt time before enter let me know first la... |
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Mar 13 2013, 10:25 AM
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QUOTE(ciahcra @ Mar 13 2013, 10:20 AM) lol what? you in 3000 lots? nxt time before enter let me know first la... chicken... how to become phoenix? i just follow the momentum and volume only... looks like whole world commodity shoot up yesterday night before i sleep.... crude oil shoot up.. gold shoot up.. dont know palm oil will shoot up or not... |
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Mar 13 2013, 10:29 AM
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Mar 13 2013, 10:25 AM) chicken... how to become phoenix? i just follow the momentum and volume only... looks like whole world commodity shoot up yesterday night before i sleep.... crude oil shoot up.. gold shoot up.. dont know palm oil will shoot up or not...  FCPO 1 Hour the price broke down.... This post has been edited by ciahcra: Mar 13 2013, 10:31 AM |
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Mar 13 2013, 11:51 AM
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Hi All, would like to know what is the best available summary of the KLSE listed company's performance over 5 years?
Currently I'm using Shares Investment published by Pioneers & Leaders. Many thanks. |
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Mar 13 2013, 12:12 PM
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QUOTE(Vestor @ Mar 13 2013, 11:51 AM) Hi All, would like to know what is the best available summary of the KLSE listed company's performance over 5 years? Performance in term of stock price or company's earnings performance?Currently I'm using Shares Investment published by Pioneers & Leaders. Many thanks. For company earnings performance, I refer Bursa website. For stock price performance, I just use the stock chart platform provided by the stock broker I trade with. If want more, you can try Bursa Station. |
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Mar 13 2013, 12:44 PM
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testing rising trendline ? fklci
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Mar 13 2013, 12:56 PM
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QUOTE(mabsandcals @ Mar 13 2013, 12:44 PM) testing rising trendline ? fklci I still shorting.... |
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Mar 13 2013, 12:57 PM
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QUOTE(mabsandcals @ Mar 13 2013, 12:44 PM) testing rising trendline ? fklci What's UP? Do you trade stocks? Care to share some ... ideas? |
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Mar 13 2013, 01:26 PM
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Mar 13 2013, 12:56 PM) I still shorting.... |
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Mar 13 2013, 02:08 PM
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any confirmation with this? what they discuss about? » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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Mar 13 2013, 02:13 PM
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Mar 13 2013, 02:08 PM) any confirmation with this? what they discuss about? » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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Mar 13 2013, 02:14 PM
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QUOTE(ciahcra @ Mar 13 2013, 02:13 PM) parliament gonna be dissolve soon? no ideas.. but FKLI rebounding... what is happening? |
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Mar 13 2013, 02:53 PM
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congratulation those who shorting..... |
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Mar 13 2013, 03:06 PM
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one minute rebounding one minute shorting ....
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Mar 13 2013, 03:07 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Mar 13 2013, 03:06 PM) one minute rebounding one minute shorting .... short @ rebound lo ! |
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Mar 13 2013, 03:10 PM
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I know. |
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Mar 13 2013, 03:10 PM
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shorting day !
CPO drop 20pts! gap down ! congratulation !!!  |
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Mar 13 2013, 04:29 PM
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My prediction?
At this rate, Chef is going to be shorter and shorter and shorter each year. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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Mar 13 2013, 04:39 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Mar 13 2013, 04:29 PM) My prediction? At this rate, Chef is going to be shorter and shorter and shorter each year. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « follow trend mah.. nowadays everyone in fear... we create fear lo... short lo... dont waste the chance of making money while the timing is there... appreciate every single seconds... and chances u have.... » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « This post has been edited by kueyteowlou: Mar 13 2013, 04:42 PM |
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Mar 13 2013, 05:25 PM
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Yesterday was a dark cloud, today is the confirmation. looks like gonna form H&S soon....
Short all the way!!! Today I'm busy preparing materials for my coaching class this saturday....so no trade for me This post has been edited by ciahcra: Mar 13 2013, 05:26 PM |
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Mar 13 2013, 05:35 PM
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QUOTE(ciahcra @ Mar 13 2013, 05:25 PM) Yesterday was a dark cloud, today is the confirmation. looks like gonna form H&S soon.... Wah! Short all the way!!! Today I'm busy preparing materials for my coaching class this saturday....so no trade for me A coach? Geng! |
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Mar 13 2013, 05:36 PM
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Mar 13 2013, 04:39 PM) follow trend mah.. nowadays everyone in fear... we create fear lo... short lo... dont waste the chance of making money while the timing is there... appreciate every single seconds... and chances u have.... » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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Mar 13 2013, 06:00 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Mar 13 2013, 05:35 PM) Wah! for beginner only, cannot teach advance stuff, i also still pening A coach? Geng! |
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Mar 13 2013, 06:03 PM
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QUOTE(ciahcra @ Mar 13 2013, 06:00 PM) for beginner only, cannot teach advance stuff, i also still pening Sifu! |
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Mar 13 2013, 08:04 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Mar 13 2013, 12:12 PM) Performance in term of stock price or company's earnings performance? Actually am looking for the company's earnings performance.For company earnings performance, I refer Bursa website. For stock price performance, I just use the stock chart platform provided by the stock broker I trade with. If want more, you can try Bursa Station. Ya, indeed I can find the info in Bursa website but just that it's cumbersome to go through all those pdf files. Thought of getting a reference book that summarizes all the past earning performance. |
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Mar 13 2013, 08:12 PM
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I got the right poison for you.
Go look for Stock Performance Guide by Dynaquest. http://www.dynaquest.com.my/spg.html |
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Mar 13 2013, 08:24 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Mar 13 2013, 08:12 PM) I got the right poison for you. Ahhh Boon3 bro, thanks for the info. Will check & dig out the data. Go look for Stock Performance Guide by Dynaquest. http://www.dynaquest.com.my/spg.html |
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Mar 13 2013, 10:43 PM
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QUOTE(ciahcra @ Mar 13 2013, 05:25 PM) Yesterday was a dark cloud, today is the confirmation. looks like gonna form H&S soon.... Short all the way!!! Today I'm busy preparing materials for my coaching class this saturday....so no trade for me sifu.. please teach me more thing plssss... any free lesson for me? |
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Mar 14 2013, 02:02 AM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Mar 13 2013, 12:57 PM) What's UP? erm if i spot some sure i share, usually on the spot and whether the limit permits, will let u guys know Do you trade stocks? Care to share some ... ideas? usually trade warrants |
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Mar 14 2013, 09:28 AM
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QUOTE(mabsandcals @ Mar 14 2013, 02:02 AM) erm if i spot some sure i share, usually on the spot and whether the limit permits, will let u guys know Chef loves to trade warrants. usually trade warrants I am lousy at this though. |
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Mar 14 2013, 09:53 AM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Mar 14 2013, 09:28 AM) Chef loves to trade warrants. I am lousy at this though. Boon, FKLI drop 10pts morning... |
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Mar 14 2013, 09:58 AM
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Mar 14 2013, 09:53 AM) Boon, FKLI drop 10pts morning... |
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Mar 14 2013, 09:58 AM) At this rate can go cuti for 2 years liao! make huge money oh u! » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Mar 14 2013, 09:28 AM) Chef loves to trade warrants. I am lousy at this though. QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Mar 14 2013, 09:53 AM) Boon, FKLI drop 10pts morning... chef, u cooking those cybert n sanichi; must be tasty This post has been edited by mabsandcals: Mar 14 2013, 10:28 AM |
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QUOTE(mabsandcals @ Mar 14 2013, 10:26 AM) hehe , anything that makes us monies chef, u cooking those cybert n sanichi; must be tasty how u know that 2 stocks? lol aihs... i try follow the trend short together... and I TP wrong place... all 2-3pts run... now 2465... aihs... heartache................ CPO anyway... This post has been edited by kueyteowlou: Mar 14 2013, 11:36 AM |
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Mar 15 2013, 09:29 AM
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morning guys , asean market up; we are steaming
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Mar 15 2013, 09:35 AM
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QUOTE(mabsandcals @ Mar 15 2013, 09:29 AM) morning guys , asean market up; we are steaming Iskandar theme - 2nd liners having its day in the sun. Look at KSL, Daiman .... |
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RHB keeps ‘buy’ on LPI’s from going strength to strength
Business & Markets 2013 Written by Charlotte Chong of the edgedaily.com Friday, 15 March 2013 09:40 A + / A - / Reset KUALA LUMPUR (MAR 15): RHB Research Institute Shd Bhd has retained a ‘buy’ rating on LPI CAPITAL BHD [] on the back of its robust business, strong underwriting strength and attractive dividend yields. The research house has maintained a ‘buy’ rating at RM15.75 with the same target price, pegged to a 19.4 times of its financial year 2013 earnings per share. RHB said in a note Thursday, LPI was trimming its risk exposure on lumpy contracts, including its engineering insurance to mass rapid transit (MRT) project, its subsidiary Lonpac also plans to stay prominent in fire and other non-motor segments to sustain premium growth. “LPI has ceded most of its risk exposure to reinsurers, we estimated that the net risk is 0.01% lower of the total insurance exposure to MRT projects,” it said. LPI has general insurance as its core business, which is carried out by its unit Lonpac Insurance Bhd. RHB Research said: “It is worthy to note that Lonpac is now ranked second in four general insurance segments.” The group seeks to diversify its bank partnerships having now Public Bank as its main source of premium contributions from bank partnerships. Lonpac is also in the panel of insurers for United Overseas Bank, Bank of China and the Industrial and Commercial Bank of China. Meanwhile, Lonpac expects to continue relying on its agency force to boost premiums growth, hoping to grow its agent numbers by about 15%. Moving forward, the group plans to grow its market share and continue being a dominant player in its strongest segments. |
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Mar 15 2013, 10:18 AM
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ada ka? anyone got realtime chart? mine is intraday
‘Right Shoulder’ formed at 1,664.39. Sell! Business & Markets 2013 Written by Lee Cheng Hooi Friday, 15 March 2013 09:57 A + / A - / Reset European leaders are loosening the economic shackles once demanded by Germany as the recession and mounting unemployment in southern Europe shoved aside the debt crisis as the eurozone’s biggest problem. The eurozone has seen bloc-wide unemployment at 12.2% in 2013, with joblessness as high as 27% in Greece and 26.9% in Spain. Pressure remains on France, Italy and the countries tapping emergency financial aid to make their economies more productive by reducing labour costs and de-regulating professions. The European Commission, the Brussels-based enforcer of the budget rules fended off attacks from southern Europe that it has been too strict and parried warnings from northern Europe that it is becoming too lax. The Dow increased by 5.22 points on Wednesday on low volume after recording a new all-time high of 14,478.80 on March 2013. The FBM KLCI traded in a downward and volatile range of 28.52 points with decreased volumes of 770 million to 930 million shares traded. The index closed at 1,640.74 yesterday, down 5.48 points from the previous day as blue chip stocks like BRITISH AMERICAN TOBACCO (M) [] Bhd, HONG LEONG FINANCIAL GROUP BHD [], PETRONAS GAS BHD [], PPB GROUP BHD [] and UMW HOLDINGS BHD [] caused the index to close lower on persistent profit-taking activities. After the 1,590.67 November 2012 low, the KLCI had scaled up towards a fresh all-time high of 1,699.68 on Jan 4, 2013. The index broke its critical 1,682 support on Jan 16, 2013 and plunged further with a 40.81-point drop in late January to its recent low of 1,597.00 on Feb 7, 2013. The index’s rebound stalled at 1,664.39 (March 12, 2013) and has dropped off since that high. As such, the weaker support levels are seen at the 1,590-, 1,597- and 1,622-levels, whilst the resistance levels of 1,640, 1,664 and 1,699 will witness heavy liquidation activities on rallies. The current rebound rally from the 1,597 low (of Feb 7, 2013) could have traced out a “Right Shoulder” of a “Head and Shoulder” (H&S) pattern which bears much resemblance to that of the index’s 2008 “H&S” formation. We advocated a selling on rebound strategy for the index on March 8, 2013, especially at the 1,660.46 (62%) retracement level. The price action of the index exceeded that 1,660.46 level to 1,664.39 on March 12, 2013. Since then, the index fell off 28.52 points from that 1,664.39 high, which we now think could be the basis of the said “Right Shoulder”. For the longer term, the rise from the 801.27 low (October 2008) to the current all-time high of 1,699.68 represents an extended Elliott Wave “Flat” rebound in a ‘Pseudo-Bull’ rise. Tactically, investors will liquidate on rallies due to the index’s ample long-term bearish divergence signals. Continue to take profit on any price rallies, as the daily DMI and Stochastic are still negative. Its CCI, MACD and Oscillator are positive for now. Due to the potentially lower tone of the KLCI, we are recommending a “sell” on YTL Corp Bhd. YTL reported a fourth quarter 2012 (4Q12) revenue and profit before tax (PBT) of RM5.12 billion and RM556.1 million, a decrease of 3.9% and 8.9% respectively compared with RM5.33 billion and RM610.1 million in the previous corresponding period. Its CONSTRUCTION [] division recorded a 21.8% drop to RM57.8 million from RM73.9 million in 4Q11 due to lower recognition of percentage of work done by its foreign subsidiary, YTL Construction (S) Pte Ltd. Moving forward, the construction segment is expected to achieve satisfactory performance for the financial year ending June 30, 2013 as the construction contracts related mainly to the group’s property development and infrastructure works. Its utilities segment continues to strive for long-term sustainable growth despite the competitive environment. Maybank-IB currently does not have fundamental coverage on YTL. A check on Bloomberg consensus reveals that there are six houses that have coverage on the stock, three of which have “buy” calls, two “hold” calls and one “sell” call. YTL is currently trading at a historical price-earnings ratio of 12.1 times with an indicative dividend yield of 0.93%. YTL’s share price made an obvious surge since its daily Wave-5 high of RM1.90 on Dec 31, 2012. Since that high, YTL fell on a very firm Wave-3 move to its recent low of RM1.54, accompanied by heavier volumes traded. Its chart has moved into daily and weekly downtrends to its recent low of RM1.54. As it broke below its recent key critical supports of RM1.78 and RM1.82, look to sell YTL on any rallies to its resistance areas as the moving averages depict very firm short-to-medium term downtrends for this stock. The daily and weekly indicators (like the CCI and DMI) are firmly negative and now depict the obvious indications of YTL’s eventual decline to lower levels. We expect YTL to remain very weak towards its support levels of RM1.45, RM1.49 and RM1.54. It will attract major liquidation at the resistance levels of RM1.60, RM1.78 and RM1.90. Its downside targets are now located at RM1.25, RM1.38 and RM1.50. Lee Cheng Hooi is head of retail research at Maybank Investment Bank. The views expressed in the article are the opinions of the writer and should not be construed as investment advice. Please exercise your own judgment or seek professional advice for your investment decisions. Technical report appears every Wednesday and Friday. This article first appeared in The Edge Financial Daily, on March 15, 2013. |
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Mar 15 2013, 11:33 AM
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Does anybody here trade for a living?
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Mar 18 2013, 02:46 PM
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dont drop little... drop alot plsssssssssssssssssssssssss!!
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Mar 18 2013, 03:17 PM
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Mar 18 2013, 02:46 PM) dont drop little... drop alot plsssssssssssssssssssssssss!! |
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Mar 18 2013, 03:39 PM
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Mar 18 2013, 02:46 PM) dont drop little... drop alot plsssssssssssssssssssssssss!! Please have some patience |
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Mar 18 2013, 03:41 PM
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young man hold first virgin overnight short ! |
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Mar 19 2013, 12:03 PM
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Incken drops, I bought RM1.....
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Mar 19 2013, 12:16 PM
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QUOTE(ciahcra @ Mar 19 2013, 12:03 PM) Incken drops, I bought RM1..... » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « You follow who to buy ah? » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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Mar 19 2013, 02:50 PM
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this time losing underwear d... i shorted the market and hold overnight... |
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Mar 19 2013, 05:32 PM
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tonight ajib gor will have talks ...
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Mar 20 2013, 10:08 AM
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Mar 20 2013, 11:05 AM
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Mar 19 2013, 05:32 PM) tonight ajib gor will have talks ... ajib kor really go all out to garner support. This attitude memang earned my respect.so tml CI gap up 50pts? But I guess the more he put in, the more investors are staying at the sideline. Imagine a leader of a country on the "all out way" to fight for his political survival, paying little attention to the country economy situation. |
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Mar 20 2013, 12:26 PM
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QUOTE(Vestor @ Mar 20 2013, 11:05 AM) ajib kor really go all out to garner support. This attitude memang earned my respect. for me I only care that.. they can give us a date for dissolve ! But I guess the more he put in, the more investors are staying at the sideline. Imagine a leader of a country on the "all out way" to fight for his political survival, paying little attention to the country economy situation. so that market has a real trend coming out.. pull back or crash... it is healthy what |
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Mar 21 2013, 10:38 PM
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No trading for me until 5/4. I'm in japan now enjoying myself
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Mar 22 2013, 02:27 PM
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QUOTE(ciahcra @ Mar 21 2013, 10:38 PM) No trading for me until 5/4. I'm in japan now enjoying myself . Happy trading everyone. making big money and enjoying in Japan ! enjoy ur trip bro ! p/s: rmb bring some lenglui come back for me |
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Apr 1 2013, 04:19 PM
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Does anyone here know trader from Hong Kong Stock Exchange, may be from AA.Anthony?
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May 2 2013, 10:21 AM
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This thread dead already?
Was supposed to come back on 5th, but extended my stay until last week....lol anyway, just do a quick browse today on my favourites, and I notice this: ALAM: testing support at lower line of the channel  ALAM |
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QUOTE(ciahcra @ May 2 2013, 10:21 AM) This thread dead already? ahh, welcome back! i think active viewers of this thread are awaiting for your return! Was supposed to come back on 5th, but extended my stay until last week....lol anyway, just do a quick browse today on my favourites, and I notice this: » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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QUOTE(hehe86 @ May 3 2013, 12:40 AM) ahh, welcome back! i think active viewers of this thread are awaiting for your return! It would be nice if this thread is more focused on stocks and not on futures trading. ciahcra: Ah Lam is on my look see list but no actions planned ... yet. |
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ May 3 2013, 09:25 AM) It would be nice if this thread is more focused on stocks and not on futures trading. ciahcra: Ah Lam is on my look see list but no actions planned ... yet. But ok, I'll try to post more stocks from now onwards. I have my action plan for Alam, now just waiting for trigger..... |
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QUOTE(ciahcra @ May 3 2013, 03:18 PM) But ok, I'll try to post more stocks from now onwards. I have my action plan for Alam, now just waiting for trigger..... I am letting the GE factor to subside before making any new move but yes, Ah Lam is on my watchlist. |
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May 3 2013, 05:56 PM
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welcome back dailou !!
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May 7 2013, 03:52 PM
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May 8 2013, 06:56 AM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ May 3 2013, 03:30 PM) I am letting the GE factor to subside before making any new move but yes, Ah Lam is on my watchlist. Broke 1.00 Will it reverse?  |
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May 8 2013, 06:57 AM
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QUOTE(ciahcra @ May 3 2013, 03:18 PM) I no good in stocks.....most that I've been posted either go longkang or not moving i guess....lol. Hmm.....IMO just stick to what you are good at !But ok, I'll try to post more stocks from now onwards. I have my action plan for Alam, now just waiting for trigger..... |
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May 8 2013, 09:43 AM
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 ALAM ALAM: time to take profits! My action plan was: enter when the price break the short term downtrend line (blue) My cut loss is slightly lower than the previous candle before the breakout. And upon calculation of RRR, it did met my criteria of at least 2:1 Couple with BN's win which was expected to move the market positively, the odds seem to be in my favour. So I'll just take a shot! p/s: Notice the blue line that I drew. My entry always been after the breakout of the line, and rebound from the channel support. This post has been edited by ciahcra: May 8 2013, 09:54 AM |
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May 9 2013, 09:17 AM
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QUOTE(ciahcra @ May 8 2013, 09:43 AM) ALAM ALAM: time to take profits! My action plan was: enter when the price break the short term downtrend line (blue) My cut loss is slightly lower than the previous candle before the breakout. And upon calculation of RRR, it did met my criteria of at least 2:1 Couple with BN's win which was expected to move the market positively, the odds seem to be in my favour. So I'll just take a shot! p/s: Notice the blue line that I drew. My entry always been after the breakout of the line, and rebound from the channel support. Nicely done. |
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May 9 2013, 12:44 PM
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 MRCB MRCB: Breaking out weekly downtrend line with increase volume. Higher low was form at 1.35-1.36. Could it be the start of an uptrend? Will EPF gives MRCB major role to develop EPF's land at Sungai Buloh? Time will tell.... |
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May 9 2013, 04:52 PM
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PUNCAK: Resistance become support, supported by uptrend line. Hidden divergence between price and stochastic.
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May 9 2013, 08:49 PM
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MRCB looks good yo.. the volume attractive to do intraday trading? |
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May 10 2013, 06:38 PM
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ May 9 2013, 08:49 PM) MRCB looks good yo.. the volume attractive to do intraday trading? Looks like both MRCB and PUNCAK close strong.....interesting to see what happen next week. Could the momentum become even stronger, or just die. P/s: I have position in these 2 counters. So my comment regarding these counters could be biased..... This post has been edited by ciahcra: May 10 2013, 06:42 PM |
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May 14 2013, 01:27 PM
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QUOTE(ciahcra @ May 10 2013, 06:38 PM) No idea....as I'm not intraday player for stocks. Looks like both MRCB and PUNCAK close strong.....interesting to see what happen next week. Could the momentum become even stronger, or just die. P/s: I have position in these 2 counters. So my comment regarding these counters could be biased..... dailou can update us some penny counters chart? |
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May 14 2013, 01:33 PM
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Market is so hot but this thread is so cool ?
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May 14 2013, 05:03 PM
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harvest, nicorp, aglobal .. bornoil... dataprp
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May 14 2013, 05:43 PM
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ May 14 2013, 01:27 PM) dailou can update us some penny counters chart? except cliq-wa, but too late to inform already.... |
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May 14 2013, 08:24 PM
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QUOTE(ciahcra @ May 14 2013, 05:43 PM) I don't play penny counters.... wow? u use chart on penny counter? except cliq-wa, but too late to inform already.... |
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May 14 2013, 09:34 PM
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i guess those with cash, is best to wait for retracement before rushing to buy huh? |
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May 14 2013, 09:41 PM
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QUOTE(hehe86 @ May 14 2013, 09:34 PM) i guess those with cash, is best to wait for retracement before rushing to buy huh?don't wait lo... market is here to trade... u guys always wait and wait.... don't know need to wait until when only dare to buy in... |
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May 14 2013, 10:26 PM
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ May 14 2013, 08:24 PM) wow? u use chart on penny counter?  CLIQ-WA penny counters, I prefer to use 30mins chart. fast in fast out! hehe red highlight is where my entry is (break out of the sideways) my signal was the green candle before break, with sudden surge in vol. couple with hidden divergence (price moving sideways, but stoch making lower low), gave me higher probability that the break out will lead the price higher, while keeping my risk low (CL around 0.24, which is about 10% losses when I entered at 0.265) |
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May 14 2013, 10:39 PM
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 GOCEAN Another penny counter that is currently in my radar: GOCEAN - notice how the price not going any lower, but the stoch keep on going down. (possible hidden divergence) - also, possible formation of a triangle (normally associate with continuation pattern) - surge in vol during run up, and vol dries up afterward, but still significantly higher than before the run up. - vol surge suggesting interest from investors/speculator/trader/gambler in the counter, an the dried up vol suggest profit taking not that severe to push back the price down, and probably most of the people who bought during run up still holding it. something cooking behind? |
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May 14 2013, 10:59 PM
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ May 14 2013, 09:41 PM) still wait? haha should enter already miss (didn't manage to monitor market at that particular timing). So other than wait, shouldn't chase high too isn't it?don't wait lo... market is here to trade... u guys always wait and wait.... don't know need to wait until when only dare to buy in... This post has been edited by hehe86: May 14 2013, 10:59 PM |
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QUOTE(ciahcra @ May 14 2013, 10:39 PM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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May 14 2013, 11:34 PM
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QUOTE(hehe86 @ May 14 2013, 11:30 PM) ciachra, about CL, do you tried before using ATR? 2/3 ATR? Or you just use a certain percentage that your comfortable with? my CL is independent with entry.my CL always at place where price violates market structure: - in uptrend, violates the uptrend i.e. making lower low (break previous low) - in sideways, violates the sideways (price breakdown the sideways) - in downtrend, violates the downtrend i .e. making new high (break previous high) |
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May 14 2013, 11:51 PM
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QUOTE(ciahcra @ May 14 2013, 11:34 PM) my CL is independent with entry. Thanks for your reply.my CL always at place where price violates market structure: - in uptrend, violates the uptrend i.e. making lower low (break previous low) - in sideways, violates the sideways (price breakdown the sideways) For your CLIQ-WA case, is there any reason you choose 0.24? not 0.25/0.26? - in downtrend, violates the downtrend i .e. making new high (break previous high) So i assume normally the number of lots that you will enter depending on the CL target that you're comfortable with? As for the TP, is it same as your CL when it violates the market structure too? Example your GOCEAN example, your entry would be above the upper trend line while your CL would be below the trend line then? And the TP, assuming that it is a new high, would you hold until the trend breaks ,by making lower high? Sorry not to MIA you, just to learn some other trading perspective, hope you don't mind and thanks in advance  edit: added some bolded question regarding CLIQ-WA This post has been edited by hehe86: May 14 2013, 11:53 PM |
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May 15 2013, 08:35 AM
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I'd mention that this is a very healthy well rounded rally ACROSS the board.
Rotation plays are clearly visible. Stock with good news flows are getting nicely rewarded. For example, when Southern Steel reported a good turnaround in earnings end last month, other steel stocks started woke up. When CSCSteel also reported a turnaround in earnings, its stock flew. Look at Hiap Teck? It woke up also. Good healthy signs this current run will last for a while. Yesterday, a group of speculative penny stocks roared. With that... I won't be surprised if we see back the same rotation amongst speculative stocks. |
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May 15 2013, 08:46 AM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ May 15 2013, 08:35 AM) I'd mention that this is a very healthy well rounded rally ACROSS the board. so....any penny stocks u want to recommend? Rotation plays are clearly visible. Stock with good news flows are getting nicely rewarded. For example, when Southern Steel reported a good turnaround in earnings end last month, other steel stocks started woke up. When CSCSteel also reported a turnaround in earnings, its stock flew. Look at Hiap Teck? It woke up also. Good healthy signs this current run will last for a while. Yesterday, a group of speculative penny stocks roared. With that... I won't be surprised if we see back the same rotation amongst speculative stocks. |
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May 15 2013, 08:51 AM
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QUOTE(ciahcra @ May 15 2013, 08:46 AM) so....any penny stocks u want to recommend? I think that chart you posted last night got potential. |
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May 15 2013, 09:10 AM
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QUOTE(hehe86 @ May 14 2013, 11:51 PM) Thanks for your reply. - Yeah, the number of lots will depend on how wide my CL is.....So i assume normally the number of lots that you will enter depending on the CL target that you're comfortable with? As for the TP, is it same as your CL when it violates the market structure too? Example your GOCEAN example, your entry would be above the upper trend line while your CL would be below the trend line then? And the TP, assuming that it is a new high, would you hold until the trend breaks ,by making lower high? Sorry not to MIA you, just to learn some other trading perspective, hope you don't mind and thanks in advance edit: added some bolded question regarding CLIQ-WA - My TP are usually at the first visible resistance, or if it's a breakout from it's pattern (triangle, wedge, flag etc....) would be the height of the pattern from the break out point - go to this website if you want to know how to measure TP given certain chart pattern (http://stockcharts.com/school/doku.php?id=chart_school:chart_analysis:chart_patterns) - in case of GOCEAN, based on my 30mins chart, yes my entry would be break out above the triangle, and CL below the triangle. My TP would be the first visible resistance, which in my chart, is around 0.305 - 0.31 - based on that, my Reward is about 3 cents (0.31 - 0.28) while my Risk is 1.5 cent (0.28 - 0.265), which gives me RRR of 2:1. For me that's good enough. and - I might hold the stocks eventhough it has reached the resistance, as long as I don't see any type of reversal candle / chart pattern (shooting star, dark cloud, bearish engulfing, double top etc...), couple with divergence between the price and stoch. If not sign of that, I may hold the stock a bit longer - as for CLIQ-WA, the price has been moving sideways btw 0.245 - 0.265. So my CL normally slightly lower than the support, which in this case, is slightly lower than the bottom of the range.... |
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May 15 2013, 09:30 AM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ May 15 2013, 08:51 AM) I think that chart you posted last night got potential. |
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May 15 2013, 10:34 AM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ May 15 2013, 08:35 AM) I'd mention that this is a very healthy well rounded rally ACROSS the board. all operator back to work d.....Rotation plays are clearly visible. Stock with good news flows are getting nicely rewarded. For example, when Southern Steel reported a good turnaround in earnings end last month, other steel stocks started woke up. When CSCSteel also reported a turnaround in earnings, its stock flew. Look at Hiap Teck? It woke up also. Good healthy signs this current run will last for a while. Yesterday, a group of speculative penny stocks roared. With that... I won't be surprised if we see back the same rotation amongst speculative stocks. they buy when everyone shouting keep a side... i know one of my friend bought before election that friday... he sapu alot of shares... now making 50% gain within a week.... maybe more coming.... we r speculator la.. wear spec to trade lo... don't show ppl u r crying when u r losing.. This post has been edited by kueyteowlou: May 15 2013, 10:34 AM |
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May 15 2013, 10:45 AM
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ciahcra according to your technical analysis, how much higher/lower will Cliq/WA get?
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May 15 2013, 12:47 PM
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QUOTE(CuteMaestro @ May 15 2013, 10:45 AM) ciahcra according to your technical analysis, how much higher/lower will Cliq/WA get? honestly, I have no idea....i just trade what I see. If there's no sign for reversal, or still not hitting my CL, I'll just hold.... |
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May 15 2013, 05:34 PM
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QUOTE(ciahcra @ May 15 2013, 09:10 AM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « So for CLIQ-WA cases or sideway stock cases, your CL would be slightly lower which is 1 bid lower? 0.005 or 0.01 depending on the stock prices ya? QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ May 15 2013, 10:34 AM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Not everyone can spend most of their time in the market lo to monitor the tape/ bids by bids flow. So those with cash, also doesn't mean have to rush in/chase high eh, for stocks like SUNWAY/TAMBUN which making new high isn't it (exclude fundamental)? So my previous question for those with cash, other solution is to look for stocks that yet to move lo. In other words, looking for tips ma. This post has been edited by hehe86: May 15 2013, 05:35 PM |
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May 16 2013, 06:42 AM
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QUOTE(hehe86 @ May 15 2013, 05:34 PM) Thanks for your all the answers. So for CLIQ-WA cases or sideway stock cases, your CL would be slightly lower which is 1 bid lower? 0.005 or 0.01 depending on the stock prices ya? Wa, chef why so 'hot'? Not everyone can spend most of their time in the market lo to monitor the tape/ bids by bids flow. So those with cash, also doesn't mean have to rush in/chase high eh, for stocks like SUNWAY/TAMBUN which making new high isn't it (exclude fundamental)? So my previous question for those with cash, other solution is to look for stocks that yet to move lo. In other words, looking for tips ma. just listen to me.. since u like tambun.. when in red u buy... then hold for few years... after 5years come back buy me a lunch .. ( if u still rmb me ) lol |
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May 16 2013, 11:14 AM
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I'm exiting CLIQ-WA. enough profits, plus I sense weakness.....gonna look for something else....
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May 16 2013, 12:31 PM
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wao, what happen to luster?? after pn 17 then shoot to the sky?
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May 16 2013, 05:44 PM
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Lol cliq-wa still not finish yet...i've sold half, hopefully can sell another half tomorrow
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May 16 2013, 06:21 PM
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QUOTE(ciahcra @ May 16 2013, 05:44 PM) Lol cliq-wa still not finish yet...i've sold half, hopefully can sell another half tomorrow premature selling..... can still go |
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May 16 2013, 08:50 PM
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vroom vroom cliq
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May 17 2013, 08:42 AM
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QUOTE(nasT @ May 16 2013, 06:21 PM) premature selling..... can still go Yeah, i think can still go. However I need cash right now. And i still got half from my initial position. So all is good |
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May 27 2013, 09:45 AM
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Very quite now this thread.....
Anyway, some charts for this week: MUHIBAH weekly chart  MUHIBAH weekly MUHIBAH daily chart  MUHIBAH daily Anyone wants to comment on this counter? |
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May 27 2013, 09:49 AM
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gadang chart how?
i see support 885 PWROOT : http://www.theedgemalaysia.com/business-ne...-new-plant.html |
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May 27 2013, 09:55 AM
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May 27 2013, 09:56 AM
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QUOTE(ciahcra @ May 27 2013, 09:45 AM) Very quite now this thread..... Hi Ciahra,Anyway, some charts for this week: MUHIBAH weekly chart MUHIBAH weekly MUHIBAH daily chart MUHIBAH daily Anyone wants to comment on this counter? Thanks for sharing. For this counter, the stochastics is overbought though the 'flag' or 'wedge' looked nice. By sharing this counter, can I assume that the candlesticks pattern and trendline have more importance than the readings by stochastics? Of course, overbought doesn't mean it will go down soon, but I'm quite wary of entering or opening position on overbought condition. Erm, did I asked the right questions? |
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May 27 2013, 10:01 AM
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Gadang , News ..
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May 27 2013, 10:13 AM
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QUOTE(Kcee @ May 27 2013, 09:56 AM) Hi Ciahra, If you refer to the price before break out of the 'wedge' i.e. around 1.10Thanks for sharing. For this counter, the stochastics is overbought though the 'flag' or 'wedge' looked nice. By sharing this counter, can I assume that the candlesticks pattern and trendline have more importance than the readings by stochastics? Of course, overbought doesn't mean it will go down soon, but I'm quite wary of entering or opening position on overbought condition. Erm, did I asked the right questions? Stochastic was at oversold area....  MUHIBAH daily In trending market, indicators like stoch, RSI etc. tend to stay in a OB/OS area for quite a long time.... But anyway, candlesticks / chart patterns with VISIBLE Supports and Resistance (Fixed and Dynamic) always be my priority. If the price was at the place WHERE I want to take action (as determined by my VISIBLE SnR), then I'll check for another evidence (Invisible SnR like fibo....). My trigger will be candlesticks (bullish pattern for Long, bearish for Short) Then only I check my stoch for further confirmation..... As in the charts above, there was a hidden divergence btw the price and the stoch, where stoch coming back to oversold area at 1.10, but price is actually higher than the last time stoch in oversold area.....with trendline, fibo 50% as a support, hammer like candlesticks, with 'wedge' pattern, with a very low vol, and stoch was at oversold area, all met my requirement already to buy..... |
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QUOTE(ciahcra @ May 17 2013, 08:42 AM) Yeah, i think can still go. However I need cash right now. And i still got half from my initial position. So all is good What about luster and thheavy? |
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May 27 2013, 10:27 AM
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QUOTE(zitis @ May 27 2013, 10:16 AM) What about luster and thheavy? LUSTER daily: LUSTER daily Already at resistance area, with vol still very high. I'll be really cautious, as smart money could be in the process of dumping their holding to retailers..... I had my fun for 1 day on this one, not going to touch it again, at least not until it breaks the resistance THHEAVY daily:  THHEAVY daily Besides the recent high (0.84 i think....), the road seems cleared at least until 1.00. I am hoping for the price to come back down to 0.62 so that I can buy again.... |
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May 27 2013, 10:33 AM
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QUOTE(ciahcra @ May 27 2013, 10:13 AM) If you refer to the price before break out of the 'wedge' i.e. around 1.10 May I know what do you mean by 'Dynamic SnR'? Fixed Visible and Invisible SnR, I understand (though not good), but Dynamic? I think I need toStochastic was at oversold area.... MUHIBAH daily In trending market, indicators like stoch, RSI etc. tend to stay in a OB/OS area for quite a long time.... But anyway, candlesticks / chart patterns with VISIBLE Supports and Resistance (Fixed and Dynamic) always be my priority. If the price was at the place WHERE I want to take action (as determined by my VISIBLE SnR), then I'll check for another evidence (Invisible SnR like fibo....). My trigger will be candlesticks (bullish pattern for Long, bearish for Short) Then only I check my stoch for further confirmation..... As in the charts above, there was a hidden divergence btw the price and the stoch, where stoch coming back to oversold area at 1.10, but price is actually higher than the last time stoch in oversold area.....with trendline, fibo 50% as a support, hammer like candlesticks, with 'wedge' pattern, with a very low vol, and stoch was at oversold area, all met my requirement already to buy..... strengthen my SnR. I always use MMA as support only. |
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May 27 2013, 10:36 AM
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ May 27 2013, 10:01 AM) Gadang , News .. What's his NTA? 885 supported.. short term TP should be his NTA.. |
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May 27 2013, 10:39 AM
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QUOTE(Kcee @ May 27 2013, 10:33 AM) May I know what do you mean by 'Dynamic SnR'? Fixed Visible and Invisible SnR, I understand (though not good), but Dynamic? I think I need to Trendline, Channel, Moving Average are examples of dynamic SnR.....the price for support or resistance are not fixed, they moved from time to time, based on your trendline, channel, MA etc.....strengthen my SnR. I always use MMA as support only. what's MMA? sorry, sometime I get confused with abbreviations |
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May 27 2013, 10:40 AM
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Multiple Moving Averages by Daryll Guppy. I kinda like his method. Simple for trend following.
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May 27 2013, 10:42 AM
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QUOTE(ciahcra @ May 27 2013, 10:36 AM) What's his NTA? should be around RM1.2 |
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May 27 2013, 10:47 AM
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QUOTE(Kcee @ May 27 2013, 10:40 AM) Multiple Moving Averages by Daryll Guppy. I kinda like his method. Simple for trend following. To know it's profitable or not, you backtest whatever system you like to use....But of course, profitable or not ...... Personally, there are no holy grail for trading. It all comes down to your own system, how you manage your trade. WHERE do you want to enter the trade? WHEN do you want to enter? How much you willing to risk? How much profits would you expect, given the risk taken? I kept trading journal to find out which methods give me the best winning rates.....and stick to it. Anyway, here's MUHIBAH with MMA (I hope I select the correct indicator ) MUHIBAH daily What's your strategy? This post has been edited by ciahcra: May 27 2013, 10:50 AM |
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QUOTE(ciahcra @ May 27 2013, 10:47 AM) To know it's profitable or not, you backtest whatever system you like to use.... Can you give more details on this 'back test', please? At least based on your experience. I've invested in Personally, there are no holy grail for trading. It all comes down to your own system, how you manage your trade. WHERE do you want to enter the trade? WHEN do you want to enter? How much you willing to risk? How much profits would you expect, given the risk taken? I kept trading journal to find out which methods give me the best winning rates.....and stick to it. Metastock software to learn a things or two. Did try to backtest using the software, but the period of backtest, will bring different results. I mean, during downtrend, naturally my method don't work. I don't short as I've limited capital. During uptrend, I guess who need TA during the crazy bull run a few weeks ago. Just 'tikam' and you 'kena' I'm quite sceptical about SnRas well, because for I'm no expert, I noticed those that are expert will play around with SnR to shakeout the weak players. Usually I do set certain threshold for my cut loss and if the chart don't look nice by going down cutting through the Multiple Moving Averages, I'm out. Not sure of your opinion but just my reading my post, I'm definitely a novice in this field. |
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May 27 2013, 11:05 AM
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QUOTE(ciahcra @ May 27 2013, 10:47 AM) To know it's profitable or not, you backtest whatever system you like to use.... My strategy after my eyeball scanning would be, to enter when there's a rebound from the Long Term MA. ButPersonally, there are no holy grail for trading. It all comes down to your own system, how you manage your trade. WHERE do you want to enter the trade? WHEN do you want to enter? How much you willing to risk? How much profits would you expect, given the risk taken? I kept trading journal to find out which methods give me the best winning rates.....and stick to it. Anyway, here's MUHIBAH with MMA (I hope I select the correct indicator )MUHIBAH daily What's your strategy? the three black candles, RSI and Stoch readings pointing downwards as shown in my End of Day data seems to tell me the chart is not bullish. Hence, I did not select this stock. I hope to publish my chart too, but not well verse in the uploading of image. Need to open other account and ..... This post has been edited by Kcee: May 27 2013, 11:06 AM |
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QUOTE(Kcee @ May 27 2013, 11:00 AM) Can you give more details on this 'back test', please? At least based on your experience. I've invested in Back testing.Metastock software to learn a things or two. Did try to backtest using the software, but the period of backtest, will bring different results. I mean, during downtrend, naturally my method don't work. I don't short as I've limited capital. During uptrend, I guess who need TA during the crazy bull run a few weeks ago. Just 'tikam' and you 'kena' I'm quite sceptical about SnRas well, because for I'm no expert, I noticed those that are expert will play around with SnR to shakeout the weak players. Usually I do set certain threshold for my cut loss and if the chart don't look nice by going down cutting through the Multiple Moving Averages, I'm out. Not sure of your opinion but just my reading my post, I'm definitely a novice in this field. No two persons trades exactly the same. What works for A, might not work for B. So when you back test, the back test has to be a discovery process that helps you discover the system that works 'best' for you, ie the system that produces the best average result for you. And yes, it is very important to note that your 'best' system might not work all the time. Confusing? If it is the best, why doesn't it work all the time? That's because a system that produces good results during an uptrend/bullish phase, might not work as well during a downtrend/consoildation phase. |
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May 27 2013, 11:10 AM
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This morning I entered Eastland because:
1)The short term MMA seems to be separating from the long term MMA 2)RSI and Stoch readings not overbought. Seems to be going up. 3)Chart seems to be making higher low and higher high though very slow. 4)MACD histogram seems to be turning positive soon. And most of the times, I only entered at a higher price because it's a sign of strength. Though seeing it going down after purchasing is....erm..... Any comments? This post has been edited by Kcee: May 27 2013, 11:13 AM |
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May 27 2013, 11:11 AM
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QUOTE(Kcee @ May 27 2013, 11:05 AM) I hope to publish my chart too, but not well verse in the uploading of image. Need to open other account and ..... It is good and free. |
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May 27 2013, 11:18 AM
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the stock itself won't move if someone don't participate to the game...
indicator is just tool ... without big sharks/retailer/fund participation ... it won't work at all... because the price will be stagnant there... this is what i learnt... |
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May 27 2013, 11:25 AM
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ May 27 2013, 11:18 AM) the stock itself won't move if someone don't participate to the game... indicator is just tool ... without big sharks/retailer/fund participation ... it won't work at all... because the price will be stagnant there... this is what i learnt... I think there's a saying... you need to master all indicators till you find they are all useless. |
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May 27 2013, 11:26 AM
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QUOTE(ciahcra @ May 27 2013, 10:27 AM) LUSTER daily: Thanks! Appreciate ur review... Thheavy look interesting!Besides the recent high (0.84 i think....), the road seems cleared at least until 1.00. I am hoping for the price to come back down to 0.62 so that I can buy again.... |
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May 27 2013, 11:27 AM
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QUOTE(Kcee @ May 27 2013, 11:00 AM) Can you give more details on this 'back test', please? At least based on your experience. I've invested in I took 10 years data, choose set of rules I want to test, then do paper trade on that...Metastock software to learn a things or two. Did try to backtest using the software, but the period of backtest, will bring different results. I mean, during downtrend, naturally my method don't work. I don't short as I've limited capital. During uptrend, I guess who need TA during the crazy bull run a few weeks ago. Just 'tikam' and you 'kena' I'm quite sceptical about SnRas well, because for I'm no expert, I noticed those that are expert will play around with SnR to shakeout the weak players. Usually I do set certain threshold for my cut loss and if the chart don't look nice by going down cutting through the Multiple Moving Averages, I'm out. Not sure of your opinion but just my reading my post, I'm definitely a novice in this field. you can choose whatever set of rules you want to test. For example: you want to use MA cross over (i.e. shorter period MA cross over longer period MA) You pick whatever range you want to test (maybe 14 days MA with 50 days MA for example).... Then go down 10 years back, and start to look for those cross over. each time you see one, decides whether to take the trade or not, then record it. If it's a successful trade, record it as a winning trade, and vice versa. Records also how much you win/lose each trade Let say I do 10 trades, I jotted down winning trades and losing trades, then calculate the percentage of win trades Then I jotted down the total winning amount, and find the average winning amount (in term of Ringgit) per trade and average losing amount per trade. After 10 trades, analyse your data. see whether the method you choose give you high percentage of winning or not. My predefined value is 40%. which means, if I want to use the system (set of rules that I want to use), I have to make sure the system can gives me at least 40% of winning trades see whether your winning amount per trade is high or not. Avg winning amount / Avg losing amount is your Reward to Risk Ratio (RRR). I set mine to 2:1. meaning for every Ringgit i risk, I make RM2. If the system gives me more than 40% winning rates, but RRR is less than 2:1, I'll ditch the system as well..... By making trading journal, you will know which system works in which market. Seriously, trading is exhausting..... And if I have the perfect system, I'd probably have George Soros phone number in my contact list already This post has been edited by ciahcra: May 27 2013, 11:51 AM |
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May 27 2013, 11:43 AM
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QUOTE(Kcee @ May 27 2013, 11:10 AM) This morning I entered Eastland because: 1)The short term MMA seems to be separating from the long term MMA 2)RSI and Stoch readings not overbought. Seems to be going up. 3)Chart seems to be making higher low and higher high though very slow. 4)MACD histogram seems to be turning positive soon. And most of the times, I only entered at a higher price because it's a sign of strength. Though seeing it going down after purchasing is....erm..... Any comments?  EASTLND daily And if it doesn't goes up, where do you plan to exit? and if the price still doesn't shoot up, how long you plan to hold on this counter? you need to define all that before you enter the trade. Unless this is an undervalue stock, and you tend to buy and hold, then timeframe doesn't really matter I guess. Anyway, for Malaysia stocks market, VOLUME is one of the most important element to me. Average daily vol for this counter is about 200k to 250k a day? how much you expect to buy? for trading purpose, you need higher vol to make it easy for you to get out. I don't know about this counter anyway, so maybe in the next 2-3 days the vol will spike.... This post has been edited by ciahcra: May 27 2013, 11:45 AM |
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May 27 2013, 11:50 AM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ May 27 2013, 11:25 AM) I think there's a saying... you need to master all indicators till you find they are all useless. hard to catch the psychology of the participants... but in Malaysia.. |
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May 27 2013, 11:52 AM
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QUOTE(ciahcra @ May 27 2013, 11:43 AM) EASTLND daily And if it doesn't goes up, where do you plan to exit? and if the price still doesn't shoot up, how long you plan to hold on this counter? you need to define all that before you enter the trade. Unless this is an undervalue stock, and you tend to buy and hold, then timeframe doesn't really matter I guess. Anyway, for Malaysia stocks market, VOLUME is one of the most important element to me. Average daily vol for this counter is about 200k to 250k a day? how much you expect to buy? for trading purpose, you need higher vol to make it easy for you to get out. I don't know about this counter anyway, so maybe in the next 2-3 days the vol will spike.... Yes, volume is important. I agree. But when volume is peaking, I assume the smart money is getting out either. The last I profit from small cap counters are counters like KOMARK and HYTEX using this method. I 'cabut' after 10-20% profit and bought roughly like same time like this counter. When it's rather quiet. The counters continued to climb actually but I can only console my self by saying 'Don't be greedy' Oh, and because the last few weeks are times of 'crazy bulls', naturally, I don't think it's my analysis that helped me. 'The bull' did This post has been edited by Kcee: May 27 2013, 12:08 PM |
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May 27 2013, 11:56 AM
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QUOTE(Kcee @ May 27 2013, 11:52 AM) Erm, my plan is the holding period of 1 week to 1 month. I don't know about this counter, so I cant really comment much, but if you said you make money using the same method, then maybe you might hit it again this time. Record down your trades, that's the only way to see whether the system you choose works or not....Yes, volume is important. I agree. But when volume is peaking, I assume the smart money is getting out either. The last I profit from penny counters are counters like KOMARK and HYTEX using this method. I 'cabut' after 10-20% profit and bought roughly like same time like this counter. When it's rather quiet. The counters continued to climb actually but I can only console my self by saying 'Don't be greedy' Yeah sometimes stock can move up without having much vol....but the question is, which one to pick? This post has been edited by ciahcra: May 27 2013, 11:59 AM |
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May 27 2013, 12:07 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ May 27 2013, 11:09 AM) Back testing. My best system gives me 60% only....only 10% higher than 'gambling' No two persons trades exactly the same. What works for A, might not work for B. So when you back test, the back test has to be a discovery process that helps you discover the system that works 'best' for you, ie the system that produces the best average result for you. And yes, it is very important to note that your 'best' system might not work all the time. Confusing? If it is the best, why doesn't it work all the time? That's because a system that produces good results during an uptrend/bullish phase, might not work as well during a downtrend/consoildation phase. This post has been edited by ciahcra: May 27 2013, 12:11 PM |
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May 27 2013, 12:12 PM
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QUOTE(ciahcra @ May 27 2013, 12:07 PM) My best system gives me 60% only....only 10% higher than 'gambling' 60% is good to make money, money money already. |
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May 28 2013, 10:41 AM
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everyone busy trading?
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May 28 2013, 11:14 AM
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ May 28 2013, 10:41 AM) everyone busy trading? AhPek trader very free. |
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May 28 2013, 11:20 AM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ May 28 2013, 11:14 AM) AhPek trader very free. ahpek trader holding his stock tight tight...... |
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May 28 2013, 11:23 AM
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ May 28 2013, 11:20 AM) ahpek trader holding his stock tight tight...... Ahpek buta-buta one. Got new sayur onot? |
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May 28 2013, 11:25 AM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ May 28 2013, 11:23 AM) Ahpek buta-buta one. Got new sayur onot? don't so greedy.... |
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May 28 2013, 11:48 AM
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ May 28 2013, 11:25 AM) ur sayur in tanah... beautiful growing now.... don't so greedy.... Somebody see right thru me liao! |
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May 28 2013, 02:51 PM
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gadang move... gpacket move...
knm moving now also... |
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May 28 2013, 03:06 PM
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ May 28 2013, 02:51 PM) gadang move... gpacket move... knm moving now also... Only 518 stocks moving up. |
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May 29 2013, 01:34 AM
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ May 28 2013, 02:51 PM) gadang move... gpacket move... I heard GPACKET! knm moving now also...  GPACKET Daily Limited by the 200 days EMA, but if can break, might shoot up!! |
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May 29 2013, 01:35 AM
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May 29 2013, 08:27 AM
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Thanks for posting the Penergy call.
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May 29 2013, 09:29 AM
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congratulation KNM holder...
Malton up and down.. quite nice for short term trader... hold 2-3days... Gpacket... dont aim too high.. i feel is okie...This post has been edited by kueyteowlou: May 29 2013, 09:29 AM |
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May 29 2013, 09:46 AM
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QUOTE(ciahcra @ May 29 2013, 01:35 AM) PENERGY I must say, the 'flag' looks like profitable, most of the time?» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Breaking out the flag could see further interest to push the price higher? |
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May 29 2013, 09:47 AM
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QUOTE(Trait0r @ May 29 2013, 08:27 AM) Thanks for posting the Penergy call. just to clarify, I'm not making any call to lure people to buy or sell. all my posting are just for information and educational purposes.....i don't want to be blame if someone losing money |
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May 29 2013, 09:53 AM
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QUOTE(Kcee @ May 29 2013, 09:46 AM) I must say, the 'flag' looks like profitable, most of the time? One of the most reliable pattern.....particularly if the pole is high vol, and the flag is low vol....plus the price rebounded at any fibo level above above 50% of the swing that formed the pole.... |
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May 29 2013, 09:55 AM
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QUOTE(ciahcra @ May 29 2013, 09:47 AM) just to clarify, I'm not making any call to lure people to buy or sell. all my posting are just for information and educational purposes..... Sorry, you're right, its not a call. I meant thanks for posting the above chart. I wouldn't have noticed that myself. i don't want to be blame if someone losing money |
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May 29 2013, 09:59 AM
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QUOTE(ciahcra @ May 29 2013, 09:53 AM) One of the most reliable pattern..... Ciahra, based on your posting, you do have a pre-defined pool of stocksparticularly if the pole is high vol, and the flag is low vol....plus the price rebounded at any fibo level above above 50% of the swing that formed the pole.... that you want to trade, is it? You mentioned Fundamental Analysis before, so meaning that you only trade stocks that have fundamental? Penny and small cap stocks are out of your radar or pool of stocks? I was thinking like, Technical Analysis should work on any stocks if we got the right move. Not me with the right move, of course |
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May 29 2013, 10:11 AM
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QUOTE(Kcee @ May 29 2013, 09:59 AM) Ciahra, based on your posting, you do have a pre-defined pool of stocks I do, but sometimes I just take whatever that are currently in the theme (now o&g, iskandar.....)that you want to trade, is it? You mentioned Fundamental Analysis before, so meaning that you only trade stocks that have fundamental? Penny and small cap stocks are out of your radar or pool of stocks? I was thinking like, Technical Analysis should work on any stocks if we got the right move. Not me with the right move, of course but my best method, I go to FB group that discuss stock market, or even here in this forum, and take stock picks from those punters but i do my own analysis la, instead of jumping in together with them.....save me time from the need to go thru each stocks. yes I invests (or trades) stocks that have fundamentals. This post has been edited by ciahcra: May 29 2013, 10:13 AM |
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May 29 2013, 10:21 AM
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WASEONG
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May 29 2013, 10:52 AM
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Anybody here have opinions or knowledge about Heikin Ashi Chart in helping our trades?
And will corrections ever come to our market? Seems like it's 'bulls' all the way. This post has been edited by Kcee: May 29 2013, 10:57 AM |
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May 29 2013, 11:02 AM
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QUOTE(Kcee @ May 29 2013, 10:52 AM) Anybody here have opinions or knowledge about Heikin Ashi Chart in helping our trades? The gap wasn't even close as of today.....if there is correction maybe it will just close the gap. when? i dont know And will corrections ever come to our market? Seems like it's 'bulls' all the way. anyway, if look carefully at WASEONG, it seems like a flag to me..... |
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May 29 2013, 11:03 AM
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ciahcra dailou...
can you give ur Chart Analysis for Yinson? |
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May 29 2013, 11:06 AM
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QUOTE(ciahcra @ May 29 2013, 11:02 AM) The gap wasn't even close as of today.....if there is correction maybe it will just close the gap. when? i dont know And i'm holding my guns from opening more trades just because of the gap anyway, if look carefully at WASEONG, it seems like a flag to me..... |
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May 29 2013, 11:14 AM
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QUOTE(Kcee @ May 29 2013, 11:06 AM) And i'm holding my guns from opening more trades just because of the gap I prefer the gap are not close, meaning the bull still strong....if close, and go down some more, then I'll be cautious |
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May 29 2013, 11:16 AM
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YINSON
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May 29 2013, 11:18 AM
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QUOTE(ciahcra @ May 29 2013, 10:11 AM) I do, but sometimes I just take whatever that are currently in the theme (now o&g, iskandar.....) I like but my best method, I go to FB group that discuss stock market, or even here in this forum, and take stock picks from those punters but i do my own analysis la, instead of jumping in together with them.....save me time from the need to go thru each stocks. yes I invests (or trades) stocks that have fundamentals. Seems O & G stocks are into plays |
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May 29 2013, 11:18 AM
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QUOTE(ciahcra @ May 29 2013, 11:16 AM) YINSON YINSON daily No idea what to comment...... Trend still intact, got hammer yesterday near trendline doing offshore support service for o&g if i'm not mistaken, so is in the theme.... yea.. if u look back previous years... from a very low to so high.... u think can still move upward? |
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May 29 2013, 11:23 AM
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ May 29 2013, 11:18 AM) yea.. if u look back previous years... from a very low to so high.... u think can still move upward? Now RM5 already!! So i don't know if it can still moves upward or not, but since it's in the theme, so I guess maybe got some more upside potential, as long as the theme is in play..... p/s: if it doesn't, just cut.... This post has been edited by ciahcra: May 29 2013, 11:26 AM |
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May 29 2013, 11:27 AM
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QUOTE(ciahcra @ May 29 2013, 11:23 AM) some people said the same thing about Dayang to me at RM3.....can still move ah? from very low to very high already yea dayang.... super good move....Now RM5 already!! So i don't know if it can still moves upward or not, but since it's in the theme, so I guess maybe got some more upside potential, as long as the theme is in play..... p/s: if it doesn't, just cut.... UEMLand profit 290% ... in this kind of market should buy high sell higher.... i think la.... |
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May 29 2013, 11:29 AM
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ May 29 2013, 11:27 AM) yea dayang.... super good move.... on uptrend, buy on dip.....UEMLand profit 290% ... in this kind of market should buy high sell higher.... i think la.... |
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May 29 2013, 02:58 PM
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congratulation gpacket...
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May 29 2013, 03:42 PM
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ May 29 2013, 02:58 PM) congratulation gpacket... redpacket no congratulation meh? |
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May 29 2013, 03:47 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ May 29 2013, 03:42 PM) redpacket no congratulation meh? this one dont need me... vincent tan giving angpao » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « This post has been edited by kueyteowlou: May 29 2013, 03:51 PM |
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May 29 2013, 03:59 PM
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ May 29 2013, 03:47 PM) this one dont need me... vincent tan giving angpao » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « I where got so lucky to work for him. |
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May 29 2013, 04:04 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ May 29 2013, 03:59 PM) I where got so lucky to work for him. everything gone up.... wait T+4 and collect stocks? |
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May 29 2013, 04:12 PM
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ May 29 2013, 04:04 PM) everything gone up.... wait T+4 and collect stocks? Start of a run, usually got lots of money if one just sits tight. Now, looking at those which have consolidated from earlier run up. Looking and seeing CLIQ now. I know ... company ... not so ideal.... |
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May 30 2013, 10:04 AM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ May 29 2013, 04:12 PM) That's why I said to ride longer earlier. Start of a run, usually got lots of money if one just sits tight. Now, looking at those which have consolidated from earlier run up. Looking and seeing CLIQ now. I know ... company ... not so ideal.... despite of market drop 10pts.... one stock quite green... |
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May 30 2013, 10:13 AM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ May 29 2013, 04:12 PM) That's why I said to ride longer earlier. What do u see in CLIQ? Start of a run, usually got lots of money if one just sits tight. Now, looking at those which have consolidated from earlier run up. Looking and seeing CLIQ now. I know ... company ... not so ideal.... |
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May 30 2013, 10:14 AM
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ May 30 2013, 10:04 AM) despite of market drop 10pts.... one stock quite green... Wonder me what colour is that? |
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May 30 2013, 10:23 AM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ May 30 2013, 10:14 AM) Riddle me that! Wonder me what colour is that? walao.. u working for vincent tan.. u also dont know....how to cari makan like that???? |
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May 30 2013, 10:28 AM
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ May 30 2013, 10:23 AM) walao.. u working for vincent tan.. u also dont know....how to cari makan like that???? He kenot afford to hire a lazy bum like me. |
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May 30 2013, 02:48 PM
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Gpacket looks like reached the first TP after the break out of the neck of the double bottom....
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QUOTE(ciahcra @ May 29 2013, 11:16 AM) YINSON YINSON daily No idea what to comment...... Trend still intact, got hammer yesterday near trendline doing offshore support service for o&g if i'm not mistaken, so is in the theme.... QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ May 29 2013, 02:58 PM) congratulation gpacket... ah boon must be counting money now..... This post has been edited by kueyteowlou: May 30 2013, 05:11 PM |
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May 31 2013, 09:00 AM
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Where got count money la. ps: Iskandar theme stocks. The top few stocks in the sector all reporting explosive earnings. |
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May 31 2013, 09:46 AM
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ciahcra: Nice one Penergy!
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May 31 2013, 10:45 AM
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just lost at KNM... bad prediction... :S
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May 31 2013, 11:07 AM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ May 31 2013, 09:00 AM) Where got count money la. ps: Iskandar theme stocks. The top few stocks in the sector all reporting explosive earnings. ur wealth is double now... did u saw the price now??? |
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ May 31 2013, 11:07 AM) ur wealth is double now... did u saw the price now??? You now getting very terror in auditing me. I need to hide liao. |
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ May 31 2013, 11:12 AM) You now getting very terror in auditing me. I need to hide liao. aiyaaaa... who dare to audit you !!! i help u slap themmm !!!  greenangpao .... really nice angpao.... yesterday red day drop 10pts..... up ... green day drop... lol |
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ May 31 2013, 11:35 AM) greenangpao .... really nice angpao.... yesterday red day drop 10pts..... up ... green day drop... lol This equation easy for you! If green is red you buy. If red is red you buy. Green is green you sell Red is green you sell. This type of theory can work ah? |
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May 31 2013, 11:59 AM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ May 31 2013, 11:40 AM) This equation easy for you! If green is red you buy. If red is red you buy. Green is green you sell Red is green you sell. This type of theory can work ah? what r u talking? lol not going to do anything today.... just sleep and walk around |
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May 31 2013, 12:34 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ May 31 2013, 11:40 AM) This equation easy for you! If green is red you buy. If red is red you buy. Green is green you sell Red is green you sell. This type of theory can work ah? lol |
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Jun 3 2013, 03:10 PM
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yinson RM3.8
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Jun 3 2013, 03:10 PM) yinson RM3.8 nice! u sure have lorries!! |
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QUOTE(ciahcra @ Jun 3 2013, 03:27 PM) nice! u sure have lorries!! 3.9 |
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On vacation already ah?
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jun 7 2013, 10:15 AM) On vacation already ah? i tot u forget me already... |
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Jun 7 2013, 10:38 AM) i tot u forget me already... Cheh! |
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jun 7 2013, 10:40 AM) Cheh! so how? going where to enjoy ur abalone dinner tonight? |
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Jun 7 2013, 10:54 AM) so how? going where to enjoy ur abalone dinner tonight? Still sitting la. You jual urs already meh? |
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Jun 7 2013, 11:03 AM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jun 7 2013, 10:58 AM) Still sitting la. You jual urs already meh? mesti tak ada.... |
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hello chef & geng
riding on the yinson wok?. http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?f...55&sec=business This post has been edited by mabsandcals: Jun 10 2013, 03:42 PM |
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QUOTE(mabsandcals @ Jun 10 2013, 03:38 PM) hello chef & geng riding on the yinson wok?. http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?f...55&sec=business congratulation holders ! |
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Jun 13 2013, 11:56 AM
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Guys wanna ask some opinion.
During uptrend, when a stock retrace, one should look to buy with a better probability to win right? Instead of when downtrend, look for rebound to enter? Thanks in advance |
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Jun 13 2013, 12:05 PM
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market red... it is good sign, as uptrend so long already.
Shopping time |
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I'm out from the market for the time being.....gonna concentrate on my f&b business
P/s: not totally out la, maybe gonna buy few dividend paying shares, and leave my money there P/s: my other thread with regard to my f&b business https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2529819 I'd really appreciate if you guys could give some input/opinion/critics. Thanks. This post has been edited by ciahcra: Jun 13 2013, 01:15 PM |
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QUOTE(ciahcra @ Jun 13 2013, 01:12 PM) I'm out from the market for the time being.....gonna concentrate on my f&b business Congratulations.P/s: not totally out la, maybe gonna buy few dividend paying shares, and leave my money there P/s: my other thread with regard to my f&b business https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2529819 I'd really appreciate if you guys could give some input/opinion/critics. Thanks. I believe you have made the right decisions. Some shares are meant to be " auto piloting " than depending on the ever changing charts , that could consume more time than you could afford. Best Regards . This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Jun 13 2013, 01:52 PM |
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Jun 14 2013, 11:57 AM
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Jun 13 2013, 01:52 PM) Congratulations. ya lor....trading is very tiring....but then again.....is the easiest business I guess. You only need to handle Mr. Market. My f&b business need to handle customers la, suppliers la, workers, need to plan for raw material purchase, licences, permits etc....I believe you have made the right decisions. Some shares are meant to be " auto piloting " than depending on the ever changing charts , that could consume more time than you could afford. Best Regards . |
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Jun 14 2013, 09:58 PM
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QUOTE(hehe86 @ Jun 13 2013, 11:56 AM) Guys wanna ask some opinion. Bump! During uptrend, when a stock retrace, one should look to buy with a better probability to win right? Instead of when downtrend, look for rebound to enter? Thanks in advance |
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Jun 15 2013, 07:47 AM
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QUOTE(hehe86 @ Jun 13 2013, 11:56 AM) Guys wanna ask some opinion. depend what you want...During uptrend, when a stock retrace, one should look to buy with a better probability to win right? Instead of when downtrend, look for rebound to enter? Thanks in advance thursday i spent most of my piggy saving dump into shares market.... friday i sold off everything... so just see how you feel the market.... |
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Jun 15 2013, 07:48 AM
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QUOTE(ciahcra @ Jun 13 2013, 01:12 PM) I'm out from the market for the time being.....gonna concentrate on my f&b business got free steak for me or not????? P/s: not totally out la, maybe gonna buy few dividend paying shares, and leave my money there P/s: my other thread with regard to my f&b business https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2529819 I'd really appreciate if you guys could give some input/opinion/critics. Thanks. can i visit ur place ah? looks nice |
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Jun 15 2013, 08:15 AM
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QUOTE(hehe86 @ Jun 14 2013, 09:58 PM) Bump! My strategies are:1. In uptrend, I will go Long on Dip 2. In downtrend, I will Short on Rally 3. In sideways market, I'd most probably stay away....if you still want to trade, buy at support sell at resistance. but I will only do it if the sideways movement is wide enough Since our stock market can only buy, so only 1 and 3 can be used. However, for strategy 3, I find it very difficult to implement on our stock market due to tight movement during market consolidation. So most of the time, in order to make money, only strategy 1 will be useful. more often than not, you'll lose money in strategy 3, not to mention strategy 2. The question is, how you define what the current trend is? |
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Jun 15 2013, 08:17 AM
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Jun 15 2013, 07:48 AM) got free steak for me or not????? come2.....free? come first la then see....if not free also still cheap, you play fkli 1 point also can cover the meal alrdy can i visit ur place ah? looks nice |
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Jun 15 2013, 08:18 AM
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QUOTE(ciahcra @ Jun 15 2013, 08:17 AM) come2.....free? come first la then see....if not free also still cheap, you play fkli 1 point also can cover the meal alrdy long time didnt touch FKLI.... stock market so bullish now mah.... |
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Jun 15 2013, 08:23 AM
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Jun 15 2013, 08:18 AM) long time didnt touch FKLI.... stock market so bullish now mah.... |
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Jun 15 2013, 08:44 AM
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QUOTE(ciahcra @ Jun 15 2013, 08:23 AM) not bullish also can make money from fkli what? the stock that i mentioned return also not bad for me already....FKLI cannot give me such return in the mean time..... |
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Jun 15 2013, 12:17 PM
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QUOTE(ciahcra @ Jun 15 2013, 08:15 AM) My strategies are: Nice 1. In uptrend, I will go Long on Dip 2. In downtrend, I will Short on Rally 3. In sideways market, I'd most probably stay away....if you still want to trade, buy at support sell at resistance. but I will only do it if the sideways movement is wide enough Since our stock market can only buy, so only 1 and 3 can be used. However, for strategy 3, I find it very difficult to implement on our stock market due to tight movement during market consolidation. So most of the time, in order to make money, only strategy 1 will be useful. more often than not, you'll lose money in strategy 3, not to mention strategy 2. The question is, how you define what the current trend is? Thanks for all your sharing. I guess it is a " down" trend . maybe due to less cash available in the markets ( cash withdrawal syndrome ? ) , but kinda soft landing than hard landing because of local funds strong support. Just my view only. This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Jun 15 2013, 12:24 PM |
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Jun 15 2013, 12:47 PM
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QUOTE(ciahcra @ Jun 15 2013, 08:15 AM) My strategies are: Thanks for your input as always.1. In uptrend, I will go Long on Dip 2. In downtrend, I will Short on Rally 3. In sideways market, I'd most probably stay away....if you still want to trade, buy at support sell at resistance. but I will only do it if the sideways movement is wide enough Since our stock market can only buy, so only 1 and 3 can be used. However, for strategy 3, I find it very difficult to implement on our stock market due to tight movement during market consolidation. So most of the time, in order to make money, only strategy 1 will be useful. more often than not, you'll lose money in strategy 3, not to mention strategy 2. The question is, how you define what the current trend is? In other word, is a yes to both my questions By not using any example, to determine uptrend, i normally use MAs (price above 20/50 MA), breakout from sideways, triangles (during uptrend, descending triangle breakout) and candlesticks. Most of the time, the examples u showed, fit those criterias P.S: will visit your shop if i drop by to KL! |
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Jul 12 2013, 11:21 PM
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fuh yoh, really inactive d eh this thread. let me ask a question here then.
normally for averaging up, the size/lots you use will be same or lower? eg, initial trade enter with 20 lots, when average up, still 20 lots? how do you guys normally manage the risk? |
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Jul 13 2013, 09:21 AM
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QUOTE(hehe86 @ Jul 12 2013, 11:21 PM) normally for averaging up, the size/lots you use will be same or lower? eg, initial trade enter with 20 lots, when average up, still 20 lots? how do you guys normally manage the risk? Err.. I think like this hor.. When I average up, I do not want my cost of shares to go up substantially. Entry point must be treated as if you do not own any shares ay all in the stock. |
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Jul 13 2013, 01:27 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jul 13 2013, 09:21 AM) This thread mati jor. without u sure mati lo....Err.. I think like this hor.. When I average up, I do not want my cost of shares to go up substantially. Entry point must be treated as if you do not own any shares ay all in the stock. aiya... i dont really averagee up a stock... unless that one have to hold forever one la.... |
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Jul 29 2013, 12:40 AM
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Guys, how do one increase leverage and still limits their risk? Example, normally use 3k to enter stock, now increase to 6k, how do one manage the risk?
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Jul 29 2013, 05:58 PM
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Summoning Boon3 kueyteowlou
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QUOTE(hehe86 @ Jul 29 2013, 12:40 AM) Guys, how do one increase leverage and still limits their risk? Example, normally use 3k to enter stock, now increase to 6k, how do one manage the risk? Summoning who ar? The risk in percentage of a 3k bet is the same as a 6k bet. If we set a 7% risk per trade, then it doesn't matter if we bet 3k, 7k or 10k because the risk is 7%. Sounds simple? It isn't. A 7%.. shiit... let's use 10% risk per trade la. 7% means needs to take out count math machine. A 10% risk on a 3k bet is 300. A 10% risk on a 7k bet is 700. The amount of risk increases when the amount of bet increases. Luckily there is Uncle Google la. Google this: position sizing and positing sizing strategies. Tons of resource material from people smarter than me. PS: There is no one shoe that fits all. Search and discover what fits your shoe. |
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Jul 30 2013, 09:49 AM
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no need set rules la... so complicated...
you only buy what u like and love.... |
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Jul 30 2013, 05:41 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jul 30 2013, 07:58 AM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Thanks, will search around google seng QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Jul 30 2013, 09:49 AM) no need set rules la... so complicated... Aiyo, when i'm geng like sifu chef, sure can follow instinct d ma, now still newbie you only buy what u like and love.... |
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Aug 27 2013, 01:29 PM
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this thread really is dead...
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Aug 30 2013, 10:39 AM
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QUOTE(ciahcra @ Aug 27 2013, 01:29 PM) this thread really is dead... haha, the tailous not here anymore ma. all waiting for your tipsy i'm thinking market now is in retracement, still in waiting mode. KOSSAN chart nice though |
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Sep 23 2013, 04:27 PM
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yo , kawan... long time no here... no one trading or punting here anymore?
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Sep 26 2013, 09:02 AM
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Wahahahaha!!!!!
Macha! Any good stuff for me? |
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Sep 30 2013, 11:27 AM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Sep 26 2013, 09:02 AM) Wahahahaha!!!!! walao macha... long time no see...Macha! Any good stuff for me? busy goreng apa??? |
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Sep 30 2013, 12:26 PM
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Long time no see ah boon lurking here
Chef currently goreng what stock? |
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Oct 5 2013, 07:06 PM
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Sep 30 2013, 12:26 PM) Long time no see ah boon lurking here goreng all stocks until very busy... Chef currently goreng what stock? |
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Oct 12 2013, 12:20 PM
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cooking up a some nice siham kueyteow; chef heh?
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QUOTE(mabsandcals @ Oct 12 2013, 12:20 PM) cooking up a some nice siham kueyteow; chef heh? busy with clash of clans |
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Oct 19 2013, 06:13 PM
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With limited knowledge earn unlimited money is our Bursa Trader's motto.
let's start back the work here. |
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Oct 19 2013, 07:07 PM
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Oct 19 2013, 06:13 PM) With limited knowledge earn unlimited money is our Bursa Trader's motto. Huhu... !!! let's start back the work here. Start the wok again? You no give stock tips how to goreng your wok kau kau? |
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Oct 19 2013, 07:17 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Oct 19 2013, 07:07 PM) Huhu... !!! hahahaStart the wok again? You no give stock tips how to goreng your wok kau kau? u also dont like my china chick... but for your long term ... crestbuild memang good.... Gadang with KLIA2 completion.. i think should be good too |
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Oct 19 2013, 07:55 PM
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Oct 19 2013, 07:17 PM) hahaha u also dont like my china chick... but for your long term ... crestbuild memang good.... Gadang with KLIA2 completion.. i think should be good too You know I like things long. This means I don't have to mah fan day and night thinking sell or no sell or sell... Things which long, I must be able to trust the stock a little bit mah... If I trade 10 months or 15 months, I don't keep track, the stocks will pull all sort of crazy stunt... You take XDL. Quarter profits down .. err ... close to 50% ... Long term profits also down... Company say to be cash rich... then pull stunt say need more money and do rights issue. How to trade long in such stocks. And you know from long ago, I just don't like china chicks. Gadang and crestbuilder... if I were forced to choose, I think Gadang got more potential la... That's my guess only and I could be wrong. |
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Oct 19 2013, 08:55 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Oct 19 2013, 07:55 PM) You know I like things long. This means I don't have to mah fan day and night thinking sell or no sell or sell... Things which long, I must be able to trust the stock a little bit mah... If I trade 10 months or 15 months, I don't keep track, the stocks will pull all sort of crazy stunt... You take XDL. Quarter profits down .. err ... close to 50% ... Long term profits also down... Company say to be cash rich... then pull stunt say need more money and do rights issue. How to trade long in such stocks. And you know from long ago, I just don't like china chicks. Gadang and crestbuilder... if I were forced to choose, I think Gadang got more potential la... That's my guess only and I could be wrong. u have my words with that crestbuilder... it will be like another Yinson... XDL, it is just for punting .. of course your heart cannot tahan those fast fast stocks... Gadang, up and down quite fast... don't get caught @ high... friday lost some money from Wesport... |
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Oct 19 2013, 08:57 PM
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those hold long term like few months..
it is for wealth creation... if for daily expenses.. i think those penny stock still the best choice... |
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Oct 19 2013, 09:05 PM
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Oct 19 2013, 08:57 PM) those hold long term like few months.. Not say all penny stocks cannot hold long. it is for wealth creation... if for daily expenses.. i think those penny stock still the best choice... If lucky can pick good one, it can be very rewarding. |
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Oct 19 2013, 09:09 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Oct 19 2013, 09:05 PM) Not say all penny stocks cannot hold long. Solid perhaps....If lucky can pick good one, it can be very rewarding. |
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Oct 21 2013, 09:24 AM
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boon gor... wake up lo.....
Pelikan.. i am going to buy few pens to draw later !! |
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Oct 21 2013, 10:01 AM
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Oct 21 2013, 09:24 AM) boon gor... wake up lo..... Pelikan.. i am going to buy few pens to draw later !! You gonna draw me a mermaid ah? |
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Oct 21 2013, 10:03 AM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Oct 21 2013, 10:01 AM) You gonna draw me a mermaid ah? |
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QUOTE(felixmask @ Oct 21 2013, 10:03 AM) today Boon goreng pelikan ? Chef goreng, not me. Chart looks ok, right? Stock had consolidated after a sharp run and the strong momentum on Friday, increases the possibility of a follow through. Maybe 80 sen is possible. |
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Oct 21 2013, 10:14 AM
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last friday got volume..
today goes higher.... |
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Oct 21 2013, 10:29 AM
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Oct 21 2013, 10:14 AM) last friday got volume.. Last week got insider buying also. today goes higher.... |
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Oct 21 2013, 10:33 AM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Oct 21 2013, 10:29 AM) Last week got insider buying also. those that you can see on screen...it is always misleading my friend... but without those information, it is hard to trade also... so contradict ... |
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Oct 21 2013, 10:36 AM
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Oct 21 2013, 10:33 AM) those that you can see on screen... Very true. it is always misleading my friend... but without those information, it is hard to trade also... so contradict ... See.. since I no those info, I no trade pendek. |
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Oct 21 2013, 12:07 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Oct 21 2013, 10:36 AM) Very true. can try punt also sometime..See.. since I no those info, I no trade pendek. trading skill need to practice everyday... otherwise will be rusty |
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Oct 21 2013, 12:19 PM
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Oct 21 2013, 12:07 PM) can try punt also sometime.. Wahahahaha !!!!!!trading skill need to practice everyday... otherwise will be rusty You very panai try to seduce me hor .... |
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Oct 21 2013, 12:19 PM) Wahahahaha !!!!!! “Don’t play the market all the time. It can’t be done, too tough on the emotion” - Jesse Livermore You very panai try to seduce me hor .... |
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Oct 21 2013, 02:12 PM
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QUOTE(gark @ Oct 21 2013, 02:09 PM) “Don’t play the market all the time. It can’t be done, too tough on the emotion” - Jesse Livermore Sifu come jor...Better act innocent. |
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Oct 21 2013, 02:15 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Oct 21 2013, 02:12 PM) Sifu come jor... hahaha... just a quote onli mah...Better act innocent. |
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Oct 21 2013, 02:19 PM
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QUOTE(gark @ Oct 21 2013, 02:09 PM) “Don’t play the market all the time. It can’t be done, too tough on the emotion” - Jesse Livermore so right... this is what my sifu told me... a poker player dont have to play all games.. can pass sometimes or even dont play that day |
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Oct 21 2013, 02:20 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Oct 21 2013, 12:19 PM) Wahahahaha !!!!!! not seducing la...You very panai try to seduce me hor .... just that sometime have to try out all foods... once you tried, you will get addicted... |
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Oct 21 2013, 02:20 PM) not seducing la... Apa food? China food, vietnam food, thai food? just that sometime have to try out all foods... once you tried, you will get addicted... |
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QUOTE(gark @ Oct 21 2013, 02:37 PM) Apa food? China food, vietnam food, thai food? umno linked stock speculation?this friday budget.... few of those penny stocks churning up volume... guess can try some lucks |
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Oct 21 2013, 03:14 PM
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Pesona
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Oct 21 2013, 03:28 PM
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Oct 21 2013, 02:55 PM) umno linked stock speculation? Apa possible ones?.... must be krony related 1...this friday budget.... few of those penny stocks churning up volume... guess can try some lucks |
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Oct 21 2013, 04:17 PM
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QUOTE(gark @ Oct 21 2013, 03:28 PM) Apa possible ones?.... must be krony related 1... i dont know leh...i am in Pesona.. hopefully got something.... prepare to hold until friday this stock |
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Oct 21 2013, 04:44 PM
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Oct 21 2013, 04:17 PM) i dont know leh... I hope for you too...i am in Pesona.. hopefully got something.... prepare to hold until friday this stock Walaeooooehhhh .... hold till Friday ah? So fierce jor? |
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Oct 21 2013, 04:50 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Oct 21 2013, 04:44 PM) I hope for you too... risk management perhaps...Walaeooooehhhh .... hold till Friday ah? So fierce jor? get some money from pelikan to take risk... |
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Oct 21 2013, 06:18 PM
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Oct 21 2013, 04:50 PM) risk management perhaps... This is called gambling your profits. get some money from pelikan to take risk... Double up? |
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Oct 21 2013, 06:41 PM
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fuh now looks like this thread has become active again....so what to buy?
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Oct 21 2013, 07:47 PM
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QUOTE(ciahcra @ Oct 21 2013, 06:41 PM) fuh now looks like this thread has become active again....so what to buy? Waiting for your tips ma... |
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Oct 21 2013, 07:49 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Oct 21 2013, 07:47 PM) Waiting for your tips ma... Not yours meh? Long time no tipsy from you leh... Kasi 1 lah. |
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Oct 21 2013, 08:26 PM
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QUOTE(gark @ Oct 21 2013, 07:49 PM) Not yours meh? Long time no tipsy from you leh... You should ask ciahcra. Kasi 1 lah. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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Oct 21 2013, 08:40 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Oct 21 2013, 07:47 PM) Waiting for your tips ma... Lol, I don't know....Instaco? Daya? Pelikan maybe can still move? argh I have no idea.... |
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Oct 21 2013, 09:10 PM
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QUOTE(ciahcra @ Oct 21 2013, 08:40 PM) Lol, I don't know....Instaco? Daya? Pelikan maybe can still move? argh I have no idea.... Sure or not you have no idea? Taikor Chef was in Pelikan this morning... |
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Oct 21 2013, 09:11 PM
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How do you all summon someones nick in the blue box?
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Oct 21 2013, 09:13 PM
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Koayteowlou..your crestbld looking good..whats your tp to exit?
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Oct 21 2013, 09:17 PM
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QUOTE(hbgoh57 @ Oct 21 2013, 09:11 PM) How do you all summon someones nick in the blue box? Do this ... CODE [@Boon3] |
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Oct 21 2013, 09:23 PM
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summoning boon3
what do u mean by not being used by charts? Are trying to say that it can be manipulated?Thanks for the blue box thingy...now i will summon u nonstop This post has been edited by hbgoh57: Oct 21 2013, 09:25 PM |
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Oct 21 2013, 09:33 PM
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QUOTE(hbgoh57 @ Oct 21 2013, 09:23 PM) summoning boon3 Errr...what do u mean by not being used by charts? Are trying to say that it can be manipulated?Thanks for the blue box thingy...now i will summon u nonstop It's like this. You have tons of stocks. Tons of charts. Some traders scan their charts and based their trades on the charts. Meaning charts come first then only stock. This can make the trader complacent, I think (my opinion la). Their trades is based soley on the chart only. They trade the chart in regardless of the stock. Me? Err... if say... China stocks.. (chef is gonna whack me downside up for saying this... again)I don't like them.. They lap the sap. So no matter how nice the chart.. I consider the 'NO BET, NO EYE SEE' option. Confusing? |
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Oct 21 2013, 09:39 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Oct 21 2013, 09:33 PM) Errr... Thanks for the reply..It's like this. You have tons of stocks. Tons of charts. Some traders scan their charts and based their trades on the charts. Meaning charts come first then only stock. This can make the trader complacent, I think (my opinion la). Their trades is based soley on the chart only. They trade the chart in regardless of the stock. Me? Err... if say... China stocks.. (chef is gonna whack me downside up for saying this... again)I don't like them.. They lap the sap. So no matter how nice the chart.. I consider the 'NO BET, NO EYE SEE' option. Confusing? In conclusion if lapsap stock(eg made in china) = dun bother no matter how beautiful the chart Use the chart to decide on the point of entry and exit but must also look at the fundamental of the stock...right? How about mother share and warrants?Look at mother's chart to decide on warrant or base it on warrant chart? |
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Oct 21 2013, 09:57 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Oct 21 2013, 09:10 PM) Sure or not you have no idea? Taikor Chef was in Pelikan this morning... I have Pelikan on Friday coz rebounded at Fibo 50%, grabbed it around 0.64 (didnt get at 0.60 coz scared to enter lol ) My first TP of course last high (0.79-0.80) but with rebound at fibo 50%, normally i project price will go to 1.10 (fibo projection 138.3%). Dunno can get or not Instaco since Sept at around 0.27...dunno what TP, maybe just hold... haha Daya i don't know when to grab, see how it goes the next few days.... That's all This post has been edited by ciahcra: Oct 21 2013, 10:01 PM |
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Oct 21 2013, 10:00 PM
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QUOTE(hbgoh57 @ Oct 21 2013, 09:39 PM) Thanks for the reply.. Hehe...In conclusion if lapsap stock(eg made in china) = dun bother no matter how beautiful the chart Use the chart to decide on the point of entry and exit but must also look at the fundamental of the stock...right? How about mother share and warrants?Look at mother's chart to decide on warrant or base it on warrant chart? That one is NOT the only conclusion leh... Still the rule of thumb is you trade your best way and not what and how others trade. I just gave you an example that I am a picky trader. It works for me but it might not work for you. Use the chart to decide on the point of entry and exit but must also look at the fundamental of the stock...right? --> If you are a sole chart trader and trade short, err.. 10 mins, 1 hour etc.. then sometimes fundamental of the stock can be bypassed. It really depends but I like to trade with fundamentals behind the stock. I try to avoid risky stocks, stocks with poor fundamentals, like every year lose money etc etc... How about mother share and warrants?Look at mother's chart to decide on warrant or base it on warrant chart? For me, I have to like the mother share fundamental. And then depending on the conversion rate, the expiry date, I then decide if I want to load up some warrants. |
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Oct 21 2013, 10:01 PM
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QUOTE(ciahcra @ Oct 21 2013, 09:57 PM) I have Pelikan on Friday coz rebounded at Fibo 50%, grabbed it around 0.64 (didnt get at 0.60 coz scared to enter lol ) My first TP of course last high (0.79-0.80) but with rebound at fibo 50%, normally i project price will go to 1.10 (fibo projection 138.3%). Dunno can get or now Instaco since Sept at around 0.27...dunno what TP, maybe just hold... haha Daya i don't know when to grab, see how it goes the next few days.... That's all |
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Oct 21 2013, 10:03 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Oct 21 2013, 10:01 PM) Nice to see you back in action. now not so active as before....if buy maybe hold 1-2 months, or longer. |
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Oct 21 2013, 10:04 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Oct 21 2013, 10:00 PM) Hehe... I always buy warrant on the fundamentals of the mother.That one is NOT the only conclusion leh... Still the rule of thumb is you trade your best way and not what and how others trade. I just gave you an example that I am a picky trader. It works for me but it might not work for you. Use the chart to decide on the point of entry and exit but must also look at the fundamental of the stock...right? --> If you are a sole chart trader and trade short, err.. 10 mins, 1 hour etc.. then sometimes fundamental of the stock can be bypassed. It really depends but I like to trade with fundamentals behind the stock. I try to avoid risky stocks, stocks with poor fundamentals, like every year lose money etc etc... How about mother share and warrants?Look at mother's chart to decide on warrant or base it on warrant chart? For me, I have to like the mother share fundamental. And then depending on the conversion rate, the expiry date, I then decide if I want to load up some warrants. If the stock is high dividend i would not consider the warrant. I will take the mother instead. If the warrant pass the black-scholes calculation, and if leverage is greater than 2 then i will opt for the warrant instead of the mother. This post has been edited by gark: Oct 21 2013, 10:05 PM |
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Oct 21 2013, 10:06 PM
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QUOTE(ciahcra @ Oct 21 2013, 10:03 PM) now not so active as before....if buy maybe hold 1-2 months, or longer. Huhu !Soon you will be an Apek trader like me. Trade by the months easier hor. No need to make all them drastic judgement calls by the mins, by the hour, by the days... |
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Oct 21 2013, 10:08 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Oct 21 2013, 10:00 PM) Hehe... Yes I know that every individual has their own way of trading..just that i would like to hear from someone experiencedThat one is NOT the only conclusion leh... Still the rule of thumb is you trade your best way and not what and how others trade. I just gave you an example that I am a picky trader. It works for me but it might not work for you. Use the chart to decide on the point of entry and exit but must also look at the fundamental of the stock...right? --> If you are a sole chart trader and trade short, err.. 10 mins, 1 hour etc.. then sometimes fundamental of the stock can be bypassed. It really depends but I like to trade with fundamentals behind the stock. I try to avoid risky stocks, stocks with poor fundamentals, like every year lose money etc etc... How about mother share and warrants?Look at mother's chart to decide on warrant or base it on warrant chart? For me, I have to like the mother share fundamental. And then depending on the conversion rate, the expiry date, I then decide if I want to load up some warrants. Kam siah arigatoh terima kasih |
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Oct 21 2013, 10:10 PM
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QUOTE(hbgoh57 @ Oct 21 2013, 10:08 PM) Yes I know that every individual has their own way of trading..just that i would like to hear from someone experienced Wahaha !!!Kam siah arigatoh terima kasih No need so polite. Actually if you don't agree, just hantam out why. See Chef good at trading short. He likes thing short. I like things big and long. ( Sounds so wrong ) |
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Oct 21 2013, 10:10 PM
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Ah boon, got buy tebrau or not?
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Oct 21 2013, 10:14 PM
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Oct 21 2013, 10:10 PM) Ah boon, got buy tebrau or not? The setups are looking good. A lot of Iskandar stocks are rallying. How? |
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Oct 21 2013, 10:21 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Oct 21 2013, 10:14 PM) The setups are looking good. setups for UEMS and Tebrau looking good A lot of Iskandar stocks are rallying. How? |
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Oct 21 2013, 10:26 PM
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Oct 21 2013, 10:39 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Oct 21 2013, 10:14 PM) The setups are looking good. Could be surprise for this coming budget for Iskandar theme? A lot of Iskandar stocks are rallying. How? |
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Oct 21 2013, 10:41 PM
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Oct 21 2013, 10:39 PM) Could be surprise for this coming budget for Iskandar theme? Could be.... Charts looking sui sui... |
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Oct 21 2013, 10:43 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Oct 21 2013, 10:41 PM) Could be.... Yup, today breakout with volume. Charts looking sui sui... Still got few days to play with |
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Oct 22 2013, 10:29 AM
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Ah boon.. Inari sleeping jor... hahahaha
But Avago hit new high... hahahaha |
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Oct 22 2013, 12:07 PM
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QUOTE(gark @ Oct 22 2013, 10:29 AM) Ah boon.. Inari sleeping jor... hahahaha I did say a few times the other day that we should see some consolidation at 1.30.But Avago hit new high... hahahaha » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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Oct 22 2013, 12:08 PM
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Chef:
XDL.... » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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Oct 22 2013, 12:09 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Oct 22 2013, 12:07 PM) I did say a few times the other day that we should see some consolidation at 1.30. No panic 1.. just emm.. bored. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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Oct 22 2013, 12:11 PM
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5139.kl can fry ah?
Heavy stock.. scared the wok not big enough... This post has been edited by gark: Oct 22 2013, 12:12 PM |
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Oct 22 2013, 12:13 PM
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QUOTE(gark @ Oct 22 2013, 12:11 PM) 5139.kl can fry ah? Heavy stock.. scared the wok not big enough... Don't say this one. One of my sad story... of not buying... just because..... |
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Oct 22 2013, 12:15 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Oct 22 2013, 12:13 PM) Don't say this one. One of my sad story... of not buying... just because..... This post has been edited by gark: Oct 22 2013, 12:16 PM |
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