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post Nov 4 2013, 01:02 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Nov 4 2013, 11:43 AM)
sweat.gif  sweat.gif  sweat.gif 

Miss me so much is it?

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Yeah ... miss your tipsy.. tongue.gif
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post Nov 4 2013, 01:47 PM

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QUOTE(lambethwalk @ Nov 4 2013, 01:23 PM)
japan again?? walaueh... jealous!
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Courtesy of Airasia RM 500 ticket.. tongue.gif
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post Nov 4 2013, 07:12 PM

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QUOTE(yhtan @ Nov 4 2013, 06:40 PM)
today the market so many double digit gain yo rclxub.gif
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After the euphoria comes the..... brows.gif

Now hardly got any counters to buy.. all trading at high valuations... yawn.gif

Margin debt (US) is at all time high....

Small cap stocks is being pushed up....

Index gaining on PE expansion....

Market average dividend yield all time low...

Easy money for everyone....

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post Nov 6 2013, 09:59 PM

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Said bye bye to WB today...... 80% profit good enough and the mother is getting a bit over valued. tongue.gif
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post Nov 6 2013, 10:32 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Nov 6 2013, 10:18 PM)
why rush? tongue.gif

Can try the extension profit some more mah. whistling.gif
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I am slowly shrinking my portfolio mah.... tongue.gif

Anyway it has been a spectacular run ... rclxms.gif
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post Nov 7 2013, 09:47 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Nov 6 2013, 10:54 PM)
LOL!

I know you want to sell ma... tongue.gif

But the way I see, I think YTLP has a solid chance of reaching 2.00 at least and I won't be surprised if it goes even higher. tongue.gif
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If it does, well too bad... now I am secretly hoping it will not. laugh.gif

Anyway the stock has been propelled by buybacks and merger rumors, otherwise fundamentally, the stock should not be trading at this valuation. My view if there is any more further upside it will be limited, unless it can announce surprise earnings/projects. whistling.gif

Inari momentum has slowed down considerably, insiders are selling like no tomorrow, I am still keeping...because fundamentally still good, what is your view? notworthy.gif

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post Nov 7 2013, 09:51 AM

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QUOTE(lambethwalk @ Nov 7 2013, 09:36 AM)
genm got interest, still monitoring. but liquidity low now hehe.
supermax also looks good
thank you for ling ling ling hehe. yeah it seems to be ... waiting.
slowly slowly lor.... no gains yet smile.gif
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This lingx3 fatt i kept for some time already.. FA still ok, so wait for more upside. wink.gif

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post Nov 7 2013, 10:16 AM

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Boon... sai-park. icon_idea.gif tongue.gif
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post Nov 7 2013, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Nov 7 2013, 10:21 AM)
Yeah.. the selling is getting to be a concern. wink.gif

I know, some will say, once it gets to main board, ideally the stock (in fact all stocks) should NOT be tightly held by insiders.

Regarding, YTLP.
The simple fact is ... in the markets everything gets overdone.  laugh.gif
The buying.. the selling.. the optimism, the pessimism ... everything.
I can see your rational of being fully valued...
and you can argue it should not be trading at this valuation...
but valuations can go crazy and many times, they go extremely crazy too.
and this recent movement....
is too well orchestrated la....

It's like in betting... I think ... you will hear that bookies goes 'this horse is ODDS ON to hit 2 bucks'. tongue.gif

If I were in your shoes, I would held it and continue using higher cut profits to protect and to expand the profits.
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Haha.. yes the stock is heavily manipulated by buybacks.. whatever they can do to manipulate it upwards, they can stop anytime and let the stock bottom out.

The cut profits is a good technique, but sometimes it can fail too... wink.gif
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post Nov 8 2013, 10:19 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Nov 8 2013, 09:15 AM)
gark

Inari, not so solid liao.
Getting weaker.
I think maybe market got wind that maybe you want to sell... issit? tongue.gif

Closer and closer to 130..
be a lover or a fighter?

Hohoho....
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Valuation still intact.... hold for now.

You selling yours? tongue.gif
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post Nov 9 2013, 10:03 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Nov 9 2013, 09:31 AM)
Me selling mine? tongue.gif
You sure I got meh?

I have refrain quite a long time disclosing what I have and what I don't have already.
You know la... this is a public forum... and even if win, don't have to boast around like a d***.

Hope you understand la...  icon_rolleyes.gif

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Sharing is caring mah.. we share our wins and losses not because want to whine or boast, merely having other's input is important.

Investing is a lonely 'hobby/work/side income' so with more sharing we have a sense of community mah.

BTW you long long time no give tipsy liao hoh... tongue.gif

QUOTE(Boon3 @ Nov 9 2013, 09:31 AM)

1. The upper trend line is still very much intact.

2. Weakness. This is clearly on a lot of people mind's.
The stock is really lacking the oomph but it's understandable since the stock really lari up (ever since you bought laugh.gif tongue.gif ) in early Oct or some people (ahem) would rather use early Sep.

3. Why is it lacking ooomph? Compare the volume in the Oct run versus current volume.
The volume is cleary on the decline.

4. Declining volume - interpretation could differ if one's perspective is different. In Inari's case, one could say the selling has dried up, ie not much people are willing to sell despite the stock is at record highs.
But selling and buying goes hand in hand.
For every seller, there's a buyer. So from a buying perspective, one could also argue that there is lack of people buying.
Are they nervous of the prices at the highs?
They scared of buying buying high and selling higher?
Or are they waiting? Like waiting for earnings etc etc etc or are they nervous of the insiders dumping?

5. Except for the July/Aug correction, the stock has merely consolidated at higher prices. There's a lack of a serious correction since Oct.
Now for the insider selling again.
Mainly it's the warrants that they are disposing.
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I am thinking that everyone is looking forward to the next Q results before making any buying or selling decisions, hence the lower volume. Also the main shareholder is now concentrating on Insas buyback instead of Inari buyback like a few months ago. Retailers being retailers, get nervous and collapse easily when there is no 'shark (in this case Inari buyback)' to support them. Institutions is out of the market as it is still an ACE stock, most institution are restricted to purchase ACE stock. I am interested to see how much Amertron actually contribute to the bottom line, and I am suspicious it might not be as good as estimated.

QUOTE(Boon3 @ Nov 9 2013, 09:31 AM)

The constant selling just makes everyone nervous. How could this stock be worth 2 bucks when the insiders are selling the warrants like kueh kapek?
Hard to blame anyone if they are scared like hell to see all the constant selling. It's a horror show.

On the other hand, even before the Sep/Oct run, these insiders are also selling. Some conversions of warrants into mother shares.
Exactly!
Warrants are hot hot in the money so why are the insiders selling?
They don't know how count sum meh?
Also with the conversion of warrants into mother shares, yardsticks like PER and DYield needs to be recounted and adjusted to the dilutions impact.

The other argument (is it even valid?) is that perhaps the insiders view it differently.
Share has really gone up like hell since a year ago.
At one point, if not mistaken, the share traded as low as 315 sen.
Now at 134, profit is damn sibeh song.
And then there was the 1 for 4 rights issue recently. And for every rights issue subscribed, came 2 free warrants.
Sometimes, people counting is funny.
For them, the warrants is like free. (  rolleyes.gif  )
They see the warrant starting price at zero...
And then they see it fly and fly and fly....
Every single sen the warrant move is one sen of profit for them....
Which is why, I can understand, why they dump the warrants.

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Understand that they are dumping warrants, rather than main share. Although the warrants are very much in the money, they do need conversion and conversion needs cash to do so. I am thinking the shareholder is not willing to pony up the cash for warrants since they have already done so for the rights issue. Selling warrant now is to recoup their capital from the rights issue. If I am owner, I would do that too... wink.gif
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post Nov 9 2013, 10:11 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Nov 9 2013, 10:09 AM)
Hehe... certain words seems to pop out..

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Meaning...? hmm.gif
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post Nov 9 2013, 03:55 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Nov 9 2013, 10:26 AM)
On the other thread I write on Fitters.
1st half earnings currently up 60+% compared to previous year.
Group very diversified.  rclxub.gif
Fire services+Renewable energy+property..

Company went on record to say... 20% growth possible. tongue.gif

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Fitters... looked at it previously..bussiness evolved from fire fighting then diversify to M&E, then energy and now property...the latest earning is primary contributed by it's property sector. every tom d*** and harry also want to go into property now like I bhd, scientex and many more...how long can this last?

Just don't like the stock enough to buy it.. tongue.gif

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post Nov 11 2013, 11:16 AM

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Sold Ah seng today ... laugh.gif

Many people bullish.. but i bearish... sweat.gif

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post Nov 11 2013, 11:18 AM

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QUOTE(lambethwalk @ Nov 11 2013, 11:11 AM)
doop doop doop doop... heart thumping..
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Want to play this game? Heart must be steady... wink.gif

Emotions = bad judgement. whistling.gif

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post Nov 11 2013, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(felixmask @ Nov 11 2013, 11:30 AM)
ur Ah Seng is HAPSENG ??

i see Ah Seng buying back own share still goin last week.
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Q results coming soon.. do not expect it will be pretty. Ah Seng has been buying back it's own shares since last year... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Nov 11 2013, 02:54 PM)
aiya that time where got ppl dare to eat...  whistling.gif
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Ada... brows.gif
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post Nov 11 2013, 06:26 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Nov 11 2013, 05:50 PM)
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Not yet.... xxxx meh? tongue.gif
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This one see how first... tongue.gif
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post Nov 12 2013, 09:51 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Nov 12 2013, 08:11 AM)
As the stock goes higher, each up movement is driven by less and less volume.

* Less people selling or less people buying? LOL *

Is this a strong rally?
Or is the rally weakening?
Or as they say, do  you think the rally is fading away?

Meanwhile.... insider selling continues ...
Still tak nak .... ???
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Ya this one hah... although the chart scream sell sell since volume disappearing...

But...

Valuation is still decent despite the run up.. if volume and price contracts, then perhaps can buy more. wink.gif

I am still waiting for the next Q report.. so if the next Q report report bad, then might sell but that time sure drop 10-20 sen but still in the money... laugh.gif

Its a bet I am willing to take now. tongue.gif

Anyway my cash position is very high already de... tongue.gif Any tipsy mou ah... whistling.gif

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post Nov 12 2013, 10:02 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Nov 12 2013, 09:56 AM)
Drop 10 sen? 10 x 1,000  = a lot hor ....... tongue.gif

Weiii.... I also want tipsy ma....

Got ah?  brows.gif

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Look at the other side of the coin .. if Q report better, then up 10 cent leh? How? tongue.gif

Huayang looks good.. fundamentally... laugh.gif

And for some strange reason, I am looking at KFM...I also dont know why... no volume, negative earning, low NTA rclxub.gif rclxub.gif rclxub.gif rclxub.gif

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