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ciahcra
post Mar 7 2013, 05:08 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Mar 7 2013, 04:34 PM)
I am looking at Incken right now.
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thank you for highlighting....I'm gonna closely monitor this one now tongue.gif

not that I fancy YTL or anything,

But I detect same pattern in this counter as in Tenaga in 2011, and MISC last year.....

share price everyday down, these two companies making losses every quarter, people cursing here and there laugh.gif

but the downward momentum were getting slower, there was divergence btw price action and indicator


same story with YTL now lor....the fundamental did not support the counter, you, yhtan, even me also kinda hate it at the moment tongue.gif

but price action might tell different story

maybe 3rd time charm, or maybe a new lesson for me, who knows?

of course, there are failed cases also, MAS is a perfect example, and I lost money there. But it's a money well spent for the lesson that I got.

MAS never broke it's weekly down trendline. So those triangle/wedge pattern, they are biased towards their function as a continuation pattern, not reversal.

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post Mar 8 2013, 10:17 AM

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SCOMI daily

SCOMI daily chart

Breakout from the downtrendline.

So where do one enter? icon_idea.gif


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post Mar 8 2013, 10:38 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Mar 8 2013, 10:33 AM)
I am just watching for now...  tongue.gif
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the setup does not have my 'low risk high probability criteria'

so just watching for now for me too tongue.gif
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Mar 11 2013, 12:38 PM)
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nice nice ajib koh ! continue shoot high FKLI pls...

waiting @ the top there to short  tongue.gif  tongue.gif  tongue.gif

anyway... where is everyone? tongue.gif

busy shorting FCPO ah ?  biggrin.gif
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FCPO 5 mins

FCPO 5 mins

Notice the divergence between the price and stoch. now broke the channel already.is it going to go down? I don't know

My strategy is to see whether the price can go up back above 2450, and maintain in the channel. if not, I'll consider shorting

If can climb back up, I'll consider long at 2453, with CL at 2444, and TP at 2470, which gives me a RRR of 2:1, an acceptable number for me whistling.gif

No tv at office, what did ajib gave this time? laugh.gif

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post Mar 11 2013, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(bios @ Mar 11 2013, 12:56 PM)
dear all
i am new in stock investment. i am really amazed with you all in predicting and selecting the stocks. what even amazed me is the conclusion and intepretation you all made from the chart. as a beginner, mind to tell me where should i start and where should i read to gain the fundamental knowledge when coming to stock selection and maybe timing to buy, hold or sell? please forgive me for such stupid questions. thanks again.
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Hi, there are no such thing as stupid questions when one is in the pursuit of knowledge.

Personally, when it comes to stock selection, I'll use fundamental analysis for my stock picking. Fundamental analysis including reading annual reports and their financial statements (balance sheet, income statement, cash flow etc...), learning how to interpret the info from annual reports. For example, you should learn how to interpret financial ratios (Current ratio, ROE/ROA, Debt ratio, P/E, Dividend yield etc....). Different ratios have different use. Current ratio for example to measure the liquidity of the company, ROE/ROA use to measure profitability, while Debt ratio is used to measure....well debt.

P/E and Dividend yields for example are known as investment valuation ratios. Investors normally use the ratios in this category for their stock picking. For those who want to dig further about the company, then they may use other ratios mentioned above, which can be obtained from the company's annual report


You can dig around the forum, or google to learn about these ratios.

As for timing, that's where the TA came in. Charts gives you a visual of the price action. Without charts, it's very hard to see what are the reactions of investors to that particular stock. TA gives you an idea where you can consider buying, selling, or just don't do anything and stay out from the counter. My two favourite websites to learn the very basics of TA are:

Babypips

Chart school


Another important things to learn, especially if you're considering trading as opposed to buy and hold, is risk and money management. For me these are the most important thing in my trading business, because I have a very limited capital, hence I need to manage it wisely to minimize losses.

One important thing to remember: There is no holy grail in investing/trading. Market movement is random, and it will do whatever it wants, and it doesn't give a damn what people thinking the market should be.

If you're student, I suggest you join investment challenge organize by your uni, or by stockbroker to gain more exposure in stock market, learn the mechanics etc. One of the famous one is OSK Investment Challenge (I was one of the winner back then tongue.gif).

Good luck. thumbup.gif

p/s: I focus more on FCPO now, because I'm too lazy to go through over 1000 stocks to select which one to go in tongue.gif .

I already have few in my list, but to wait for opportunity to buy, it might take months/years before the opportunity comes knocking on my door. So for recurring income, I choose FCPO, because I can only focus on the timing, and risk/money management. I still review the stocks in my list once in awhile though

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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Mar 11 2013, 02:10 PM)
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full respect to ciahcra bro !

anyway.. today i just short FCPO by luck only...  icon_rolleyes.gif

* tape reading only... no chart at all...  tongue.gif

I long FKLI too...

what news jib gor giving?  sad.gif  no tv also leh me
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Lol what do you mean 'by luck'? you just feel like shorting, and you short? tongue.gif

looks like your 'short' got lots of profits already! tongue.gif



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post Mar 11 2013, 03:44 PM

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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Mar 11 2013, 03:34 PM)
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trader instinct ...
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I'm gonna short now tongue.gif
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Mar 11 2013, 03:46 PM)
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sometime when someone make money in the early morning.. noon time better protect profit lo..

so I am shaking leg and surfing net now...

no girl to date  doh.gif  sad.gif  cry.gif
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agree. but i haven't make any money yet today sad.gif


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post Mar 12 2013, 01:02 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Mar 12 2013, 08:54 AM)
ciahcra : You so pro. tongue.gif
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pro? i don't think so unsure.gif

YTLPOWR still has not move!! mad.gif mad.gif

Wanna follow you on Incken. 1.00 ok boss mau masuk? laugh.gif

I've held this counter for quite long since May 2012 at 55 cents. Hold all the way until I got stopped out at 1.05 when it peaked and came back down.

From May 2012 to Sept 2012, nothing happened, so I gave up, didn't watch this counter anymore until it broke 75 cents tongue.gif

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post Mar 12 2013, 01:29 PM

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FCPO 1 Hour

FCPO 1 Hour chart.

Detected hidden bullish divergence. Price rebounded at Fibo 61.8 of the swing, and the trendline.

5 mins chart got showed hammer candlestick, bullish divergence and confirmation candle for reversal. I got Long position at 2420, with CL at 2410, and target 2467.

Yesterday price hit my CL at 2455, lose 5 points, but I enter again at 2464 and hold overnight, take profit at 2420


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post Mar 12 2013, 01:58 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Mar 12 2013, 01:42 PM)
I still watch YTLP only. tongue.gif

Recently. the Iskandar theme had been reignited and we saw strong movement in stocks like UEM Land and Tebrau.
Focus was then focused on companies who own land bank in that region.
These companies either own land bank or purchased land in that region and have yet to develop or revalue their assets.
We saw good movements in stocks like KSL and even giant stock like Genting Plantation posted solid gains because report came out they own lots of land in/near that region.

I see this has sort of play has caught on. Play is shifting towards plays on stocks which has properties (or land bank) that are deemed under valued because the assets has not been revalued.

Example? Most leng chai stock recently is Kseng.
Explosive movement which I believe is contributed by the fact this company long time no revalue its assets and of course Dali's posting http://malaysiafinance.blogspot.com/2013/0...ng-to-boil.html helped stirred some interest.  biggrin.gif

Moving along same theme, ie under valued asset, should be Incken also.
Net asset is above 1.77 and if its properties are valued to current valuation, this stock looks deeply under value.

Reason to buy looks 'ok' for me.

The other day, Incken, woke up and made a solid movement last Thursday.
Stock has pulled back a little since then.
The fact the stock is holding ok at the 1.00 region looks to inviting for me. tongue.gif
It's an open door for me.
And as mentioned last time, the company has been constantly buying back some stocks every day since CNY.

Err.. looks like a decent bet la.

Pray I am not wrong.  sweat.gif

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Good write up. thumbup.gif

You're right about focus on stocks which has landbanks that are deemed under valued. Incken has quite big landbank in Bangi and Kajang, which I believed had been converted from plantation land to mixed development land. Maybe gonna be a takeover target soon tongue.gif

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post Mar 12 2013, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Mar 12 2013, 01:56 PM)
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until now i dont dare to hold overnight...

all my transaction intraday...

2464... 2420 tp....  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  notworthy.gif
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well if you draw channel, the high of 2467 already at the top of the channel, couple with divergence at 5 mins, shooting star candle, and confirmation candle, all meet my requirement already. so just pull the trigger laugh.gif

If suddenly gap up, sure die my position tongue.gif

But the probability is high, so I might as well take the risk....

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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Mar 12 2013, 04:20 PM)
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Malaysia need more scalper to make our market to be more active...
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which is why I'm doing what I'm doing.....to create more scalper and intraday player tongue.gif
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post Mar 13 2013, 09:58 AM

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FKLI 1 hour

Looks ok what, trend still intact whistling.gif
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Mar 13 2013, 10:04 AM)
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lol what? you in 3000 lots? tongue.gif

nxt time before enter let me know first la... tongue.gif
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post Mar 13 2013, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Mar 13 2013, 10:25 AM)
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chicken... how to become phoenix?  sad.gif  cry.gif

i just follow the momentum and volume only...

looks like whole world commodity shoot up yesterday night before i sleep....

crude oil shoot up.. gold shoot up..

dont know palm oil will shoot up or not...  hmm.gif
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FCPO 1 Hour

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the price broke down.... doh.gif

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post Mar 13 2013, 01:26 PM

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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Mar 13 2013, 12:56 PM)
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I still shorting....
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Damn, shorting 3000 lots. Tell me nxt time sifu if u want to enter big! tongue.gif
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post Mar 13 2013, 02:13 PM

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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Mar 13 2013, 02:08 PM)
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any confirmation with this? what they discuss about?

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parliament gonna be dissolve soon? hmm.gif
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post Mar 13 2013, 05:25 PM

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Yesterday was a dark cloud, today is the confirmation. looks like gonna form H&S soon....

Short all the way!!! tongue.gif

Today I'm busy preparing materials for my coaching class this saturday....so no trade for me sad.gif

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Mar 13 2013, 05:35 PM)
Wah!

A coach? Geng!  thumbup.gif
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for beginner only, cannot teach advance stuff, i also still pening tongue.gif

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