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yhtan
post Feb 7 2014, 12:15 PM

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QUOTE(MrLoo @ Feb 7 2014, 11:41 AM)
really? shocking.gif
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Just simply talk cock sing song tongue.gif

QUOTE(Boon3 @ Feb 7 2014, 11:42 AM)
CIMB almost back to 7. wink.gif

I no buy. smile.gif
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CIMB mau makan RHB brows.gif
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post Feb 11 2014, 12:34 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Feb 11 2014, 12:25 PM)
Oh my!

LOL! LOL!

Tell me what you don't have. tongue.gif

Can continute to hold lor...

As far as I can see (hope not wrong)...
action BELUM start yet.

stock is just trending steadily upwards.

Good to go much higher.
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Ah Lamb apa apa pun got tongue.gif laugh.gif

U target homie 1.5 ah? hmm.gif
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post Feb 12 2014, 02:53 PM

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QUOTE(MrLoo @ Feb 12 2014, 02:05 PM)
yea its a pretty young lady graduated from my current uni... scold her no use ma... maybe can sue cimb...cause i cant sell manually nor digitally!!! if there is a loss!  icon_idea.gif
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can recommend to me or not? brows.gif tongue.gif
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QUOTE(gark @ Feb 12 2014, 02:50 PM)
Any tipsy lately?  laugh.gif
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7!33 Kuli

Sui boh? icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(MrLoo @ Feb 12 2014, 02:54 PM)
huh... u wan open account meh? must come melaka lo then  rclxms.gif
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Melaka.....Susah lor sweat.gif
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QUOTE(hehe86 @ Feb 11 2014, 11:05 PM)
Ahh, forgive my manners. I forgot to wish Gong hei fatt choy to tailou and the old timers (gark,lamb,koayteow,etc) biggrin.gif

Ma ma dei only, 1/2 trade per month only. Gudang still holding though, lol.

Mr.Simpson macam breakout rectangle lo. So may see some selling at ~0.76 kua. hmm.gif

Where got big time lurker, kecik miao only leh

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How did u determine the bottom support price?

I'm worry the share price will going south, like entering bottomless pit sweat.gif
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QUOTE(MrLoo @ Feb 12 2014, 03:03 PM)
haha, yalo... kuli today tp is?
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No idea tongue.gif

QUOTE(hehe86 @ Feb 12 2014, 06:35 PM)
Well normally can refer to history to see where's the so call 'bottom'. But what i normally do is if i enter, i'll put my stop somewhere below the low. Like 5190, if enter, my stop maybe ~0.84 since it 'looked' like tested 3 times around there may indicative a strong interested buyer there. So depends on your risk/reward appetite.

anyhow, you may go holland with these, unlike other tailous here, lol
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Having a trading style like this, is setting yourself in a losing position more than winning position sweat.gif
I rather trade stock with uptrend or those consolidating within a certain range.

Ah Boon might concur my statement icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Feb 14 2014, 10:19 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Feb 14 2014, 10:10 AM)
Eh?

I think I posted the chart before...

The previous one was a very obvious consolidation.

That's all.

Stocks MUST consolidate and shake off all the vultures before moving higher one.
Have you notice...
stocks that can run and run (like DSonic tongue.gif check out the big 5 year chart)...
they rise on a 45 degree or so angle?

and they don't have the big one day blow out movement (20% up or so)....
and when they keep up such a momentum (some say - movement is controlled. tongue.gif ) ....
they can really climb and climb one...

So where are we now?

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Oh... do have faith will ya?

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Yinson seem like having that 45 degree rising angle icon_idea.gif tongue.gif
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post Feb 14 2014, 10:24 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Feb 14 2014, 10:21 AM)
Shhhh..... Shhhhhh...... Shhhhh......  tongue.gif  laugh.gif

I also KNOW you have..... tongue.gif
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Furniture stock signalling "I'll be back" rclxms.gif

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QUOTE(valan @ Feb 17 2014, 10:45 AM)
ya, i noticed sifu-level investor dun like IPO tongue.gif

for myself, i do apply to selective IPO for some quick gains, but mostly failed la.  IOIPG caught my attention coz it's a biggie, so expecting it to have a higher PE valuation.  From the Q1 result and then annualized it, I come to about 20x PE, which is fairly valued at best.  Wanted to see if I miss out anything.

anyway, thanks for your reply @Boon.
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IOIPG listing was a big angpow for IOI Corp shareholders, i personally suggest beware of those big cap property stock, just look at UEMS and SPSetia sweat.gif

QUOTE(gark @ Feb 17 2014, 12:00 PM)
This &a& defies all logic one.. today ini mari goes up 5 sen, it lost half sen...

Last time ini mari 1.60, &a& is 90+ sen, now 1.80 jor.. &a7 at 80+ sen..

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Last time i remember when ini mari up so much, &a& still stagnant for sometime laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Feb 17 2014, 12:53 PM)
Aiseh... tongue.gif
That reference is made so that we should remember how fast the stock had flown recently la.
If you want to go for the big win...
you cannot discount this fact..
and the fact here is...
back in Sep, TAS was just 40+ sen.
Today is 120+-.

This is a fact ma...
not to scare the shit out you. tongue.gif

And please la...
contracts talk hor...
is only worth so much...
the ability for the company to turn that contract into cold hard cash is more important... tongue.gif

For example..
Ah Boon property company...
has 200 million project to build houses...
but this Ah Boon...
bloody good for nothing one...
day and night minum...
9 pagi...
sudah minum...
minum sampai malam.... LOL
Bloody useless Ah Boon....

how?
200 million project he finish...
but due all his drinking...
for 200 million project...
his company loses 2 million.... doh.gif

Not saying this is will happen to TAS..
but a contract is just a contract...
most important is company to make profits from the project....

So why TAS price fly so fast?
Like I said...
earnings turnaround la....
when your earnings improve 200+ % for 2 quarters...
stock will fly one...

Big question now is....
in my opinion... tongue.gif
is whether the company earnings can continue to improve or not...

if cannot...
I tell you hor...
you better take into consideration how fast and how high the stock flew recently...

my 3 sen la....

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Ship building is all about contract, no contract = no future profit.

QUOTE(tstan8_8 @ Feb 17 2014, 02:00 PM)
She went out for lunch. adui.
Tak da her handphone number.
Wan to kill her!!  vmad.gif
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Are u using margin account?
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Feb 17 2014, 07:38 PM)
Yes, you are 100% correct.

However, maybe I dunno how to say.

All i want to say is a contract doesn't mean much.
Some company can get millions and millions and millions of contracts/jobs ....
but somehow... shareholders don't see any benefit as the company cannot convert the contracts into profits. wink.gif
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I remember years ago when steel price shoot up sky high, many construction contractor made losses or tiny profit.

U have to beware of the Company product's core material cost price.

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Feb 18 2014, 07:45 AM)
That's why it's tricky at times with such companies.

On one hand, book orders is a must.
The bigger the better, in fact.
It's a sort of assurance that there is future for the company...

but then... one cannot assume total success of all the contracts/jobs.

Sometimes shit happens.
Cost goes up, poor management blah blah blah.....
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If contract based on service type and is unique business, then it will be lucrative brows.gif

Eg.MYEG thumbup.gif

QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Feb 18 2014, 10:57 AM)
yinson also got split not rights....

ahb got rights
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Yinson got rights too, rights issue then split
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Feb 18 2014, 01:41 PM)
sweat.gif

Got 3 years jor meh? sweat.gif

Ok... digging out the chart .... FOR THE FIRST TIME......

user posted image

Errr.... I am clueless how to play such chart.

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Uncle Ananda is the most smart businessman to list/delist Companies, not making the business growth laugh.gif

QUOTE(Boon3 @ Feb 18 2014, 03:13 PM)
..... and here is how the 'less risk' stock ended ...

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mind you... the stock was heavily promoted by iCapital too. tongue.gif
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This Parkson really goes all the way to Holland mainly because the changes in business environment

Alibaba is so successful in China and Parkson has face stiff competition from competitor since its business can be easily imitate. And China business provide the most profit among all continent.

And the management unable to address the eroding profit in China and choose to open in Indo China (Vietnam, Myanmar etc countries) sweat.gif


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QUOTE(lambethwalk @ Feb 18 2014, 03:36 PM)
sorry, employee SHARE option scheme

just read 5401 announcements... you will see how it works aka how this evil company injures minority shareholders  vmad.gif
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That owner Danny Tan is brother of Vincent Tan whistling.gif

No wonder my friend name the Company as
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ESOS need to pay one, SPSetia's share option (LTIP) is giving out free sweat.gif
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QUOTE(gark @ Feb 18 2014, 06:05 PM)
Wah.. in total MAS lost more than RM 1.1 BILLION in FY2013

If take out the perpetual loan, already negative NTA.... sweat.gif

At total cash burn rate of around 3 bil (operation loss + purchase of capex), MAS will run out of cash by end of next year... they will need to raise another 3-4 billion to survive another year.  sweat.gif

More rights issue coming?
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MAS recently slashing their price to compete with Air Asia, which i think is a stupid move doh.gif

The main problem is still their Union sweat.gif

QUOTE(Boon3 @ Feb 18 2014, 07:12 PM)
MrLoo

By the way, for uli, compare the trades on the 6/2 versus 17/2 .....
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Oh, what is that? still consolidating within a price range from what i can see

QUOTE(Boon3 @ Feb 18 2014, 07:13 PM)
LOL!

EPF pays more dividend tongue.gif

Smartest thing I think EPF has ever done is its investment in PLUS.

PLUS is such a cash cow...................................
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They only own 50% if not mistaken

But the investment did shut up the mouth of opposition politician laugh.gif

Actually EPF should build and owned all the highway tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Feb 19 2014, 10:34 AM)
KTL also should have.... whistling.gif
Ah Tan too but he joined late..... tongue.gif

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U audit on me ah? tongue.gif

EPF bought Yinson over 5% stake, news announced.

Mokhzani sold some of its stake in Sapura Kencana, resigned as executive director, got stake in Yinson. There must be something with Mokhzani and Shahril which we don't know.

I believe there are more to come icon_rolleyes.gif

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Zhulian from RM5 drop until 2.87, that's almost 50% drop

I'm worry there would be major changes in Zhulian's fundamental sweat.gif
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QUOTE(river.sand @ Feb 19 2014, 11:10 AM)
I thought it is related to Thailand's riot?
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Yes, and majority Zhulian's profit from there

AFAIK some fund manager dump all their stake on the sharp drop, i guess they knew something we don't know sweat.gif

U ask refer Ah boon about this chart, keep going down and down until no where to see its bottom sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Feb 19 2014, 11:18 AM)
told you to let it go mah..........
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Luckily i don't have biggrin.gif

But hor this counter keep breaking its support line until i can't see any.
It remind me of Hai O several years ago sweat.gif

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