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 Bursa Traders Thread V2, waaa! V2 d !

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post Nov 21 2013, 10:53 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Nov 21 2013, 10:51 AM)
Dowan to disclose already....  tongue.gif
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Tell la tell la... we all friend here mah.. laugh.gif

Can sama2 learn to invest better mah. tongue.gif

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post Nov 21 2013, 10:55 AM

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QUOTE(lambethwalk @ Nov 21 2013, 10:54 AM)
nolar gark... get boon to tell us what he buy and still holding instead is the main point!! tongue.gif
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True true also.. but he very secretive one... tongue.gif
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post Nov 21 2013, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(valan @ Nov 21 2013, 11:22 AM)
no wonder other thread so quiet now.
everyone come here to chui sui
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Here no one will complain talk 3 talk 4... tongue.gif
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post Nov 21 2013, 12:16 PM

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QUOTE(lambethwalk @ Nov 21 2013, 12:12 PM)
LLLF also cannot keep up already.

so regret didnt sell all my profitable counters yday sad.gif
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Dont worry... same boat de.. between yesterday open and current price already 'less profit' 2 iphones... flex.gif

There is no regret one.... in stock investing. wink.gif Otherwise will make silly mistakes due to panic..

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post Nov 21 2013, 12:21 PM

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QUOTE(felixmask @ Nov 21 2013, 12:19 PM)
LLLF what your EXIT TP ?
yesterday boon3 also mention....now only caught my attention...
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Wahhhhh I buy stock got no exit TP one leh.. look at valuation, Q reports, look at sentiments, look at news one leh.. tongue.gif

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post Nov 21 2013, 12:27 PM

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QUOTE(lambethwalk @ Nov 21 2013, 12:24 PM)
felix, LLLF already talked about early november... i also bought and sold dy.
you need to inform your wife to let you surf LYF more tongue.gif
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Correction LLL8 already give recommendation since September together with sushi stock.. no one wanna see only... rolleyes.gif

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post Nov 21 2013, 12:27 PM

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QUOTE(lambethwalk @ Nov 21 2013, 12:25 PM)
my IOI has lost its eye today...

going blind dy  icon_question.gif
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CPO downtrend... sweat.gif
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post Nov 21 2013, 12:43 PM

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QUOTE(valan @ Nov 21 2013, 12:42 PM)
apa tu LLL8 ?
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ling long ling fatt? tongue.gif
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post Nov 21 2013, 12:47 PM

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QUOTE(valan @ Nov 21 2013, 12:46 PM)
oh
long long long time ago i have it....when it was below .20 tongue.gif
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wah.. sudah manyak untung ah you... brows.gif
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post Nov 21 2013, 06:22 PM

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CBIP posted ok results, little better than last quarter. Proposed 5 cent 2nd interim divvy... thumbup.gif

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post Nov 21 2013, 08:08 PM

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QUOTE(lambethwalk @ Nov 21 2013, 07:54 PM)
gark... for value, do we look at revenue or net profit?
am looking at the results summary...
revenue increased for cbip, but net profit for quarter decreased.
eps also went down.. div also less..
can help to explain?

the newspaper reports especially like to report diff sides of the coin.
some will report results good, and some bad.. but essentially same counter.
its how they extract out the info, and those who understand less, get confused (like me)
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Always look at profit.. and especially where the profit comes from.

In CPIB, last 4Q, revenue, gross profit, net profit, EPS, DPS and NAV

Q3FY2013 136,093 28,944 21,988 8.29 5.00 1.970
Q2FY2013 145,343 20,852 18,859 7.11 0.00 1.890
Q1FY2013 148,334 22,993 18,668 7.02 0.00 1.870
Q4FY2012 146,756 21,389 24,865 9.28 5.00 1.860
Q3FY2012 108,701 30,274 27,083 10.0910.001.770

As you can see although the profit is lesser than last year, the profit is still on the up trend compared to last 2Q. Expected dividend for CBIP is about 10-15 cent per year. Last year CBIP sold some plantation and distributed special dividend (one off 60 cents) which might makes the dividend smaller this year, so the Q3FY12 makes the profit and dividend 'look' higher.

For this quarter..(if you look at the Q report in detail) actually the net profit is less due to higher losses from the palm oil plantation as the fruit is just ready to harvest (total revenue 100k, total loss -2.5mil) which is common in early stages of plantation. The palm oil mill works and SPV business has both recorded higher revenue and higher profits. Net Cash flow for this quarter is very much less due to planting cost at their 63k ha plantation.
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post Nov 21 2013, 08:10 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Nov 21 2013, 07:59 PM)
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Little better than last Q....
Not as geng as last year...

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profits need to look into the future one... they just sold thier plantation for a nice profit so sure got loss of revenue.. now planting EVEN BIGGER plantation, then profit will be up up.. tongue.gif

i think ha this CBIP smart one, buy land, plant, then sell the 'ready' made plantation at premium, with the money buy even more land, plant and sell it off later... rclxub.gif

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post Nov 21 2013, 08:22 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Nov 21 2013, 08:14 PM)
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Give you work........ sweat.gif

Can aaa ???
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This 2.. I seriously no vested interest.
Ok?

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Ok look at it tomorrow .. now need go back eat liao...

At a glance.. SHL profit going up nicely.. property counter.. brows.gif

Yee Lee last time bought and sold before.. icon_idea.gif

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post Nov 22 2013, 10:39 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Nov 22 2013, 10:00 AM)
gark

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Wah... you can sure write grandmother stories for stock trading.. i like... thumbup.gif

My view is like this i put 1/3 capital to reserve seat (done), then another 1/3 when bar half full and 1/3 more once the SYT arrive.. so as to hedge my bets IN CASE the deal fails... icon_rolleyes.gif

I expect the price to zoom to RM5 IF the deal announced with BV >1.3x...

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post Nov 22 2013, 11:36 AM

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Boon3 your request...

analysis of 55*$...

Good profit growth last 3Q...but now a bit stagnant... trading below BV, single digit PE... but low kiamsiap DY.

Margin is expanding YOY.. to about 5% now previously margin is very low which explain the rise in profit although revenue is less..

Chart looks to be on slow uptrend.. but consistent since september 2013

Financial assets...

Balance sheet ok... cash 43 mil, loan 110 mil not so great
Good FCF of 20-25 mil a year.. about 80% of profits..

Manufacturing and trading arm is contributing to most profits.. trading arm margin is very very low. sweat.gif

The actual jewel in the crown is the water business... but only as an associate company

The other manufacturing consist of household products, edible oil (specilized consumer oil), noodles.. is secondary brand in the market. The other industril jewels are its glove manufacturing and PET bottling..

Expect revenue and profit growth to be 0%-10% p.a. so it is justifiable for this counter.

On shareholding..


there are noticible insider buying at 1.20-1.25 stage which is good...but one director is consistently disposing so it is mixed signals

Directors not overpaid.. so ok ..

Shareholder.. main shareholder >55%, small institutional holding.. but cold eye is one of the top 30 shareholder.. brows.gif

Asset last revalue in 2009.. not much hidden value

Conclusion...

Moderate growth, decent value counter.... if they can continue to expand margin then profitability will be up. A somewhat stable and consistent counter, maybe suitable for long term holding unfortunately DY is quite low....

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post Nov 22 2013, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(lambethwalk @ Nov 22 2013, 11:17 AM)
what to buy today...  hmm.gif
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1201... brows.gif
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post Nov 22 2013, 11:45 AM

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QUOTE(yhtan @ Nov 22 2013, 11:42 AM)
U expect it to be like Kris Asset? brows.gif

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Hoping loh.. if can be like kris asset or CI holdings to name a few similar case.. huat loh.

My CI holdings returned more than 100% after they sold off permanis (pepsi manfacturer).. laugh.gif

In my opinion, these are low risk bets.. but need to wait long long time... whistling.gif

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post Nov 22 2013, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Nov 22 2013, 11:59 AM)
TQ...

Let me save into 555 book first.

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Not a fan of coldeye.

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Dont like coldeye meh..? he good investor also wat... tongue.gif

so this 55 is interesting to you or not? tongue.gif
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post Nov 22 2013, 12:26 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Nov 22 2013, 12:24 PM)
A little bit only. laugh.gif

I had been look see look see this one and Spritzer....
Somehow no buy.

So got anything interesting to look ah?
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why no buy leh? tongue.gif profit up too slow for you....? wink.gif
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post Nov 22 2013, 12:48 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Nov 22 2013, 12:40 PM)
Kena char from Ah Tan....  sad.gif
I don't hold a lot of stocks hor...
I very fussy one... tongue.gif
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I am waiting for 7213.. to reach 30 c... this one can ah? tongue.gif

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