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yhtan
post Nov 21 2013, 01:33 PM

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post Nov 21 2013, 01:47 PM

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have lotsa experience with market does not mean already an expert.
my experience can be summarized as ...old times suffer losses....current times got enjoy some good profits....future times....who knows...

QUOTE(lambethwalk @ Nov 21 2013, 01:29 PM)
lol valan sold dy...

long long long time ago, means you hv been trading the stock market for quite some time smile.gif banyak experience lo
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post Nov 21 2013, 03:24 PM

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not an expert, but no way you can be worst off now vs first started smile.gif

next year, come come...



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post Nov 21 2013, 03:42 PM

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ah boon, where are you...
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post Nov 21 2013, 03:58 PM

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QUOTE(lambethwalk @ Nov 21 2013, 03:42 PM)
ah boon, where are you...
talk talk abit sad.gif
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Y so sad?all in?contra?
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post Nov 21 2013, 04:02 PM

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post Nov 21 2013, 04:25 PM

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post Nov 21 2013, 04:47 PM

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QUOTE(lambethwalk @ Nov 21 2013, 03:42 PM)
ah boon, where are you...
talk talk abit sad.gif
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Doing some chores just now....
What's up?
Or what's not up?

Ok.. you got 3
I talk 4...

LOL!


Edit... sorry.... need to be away for an hour.

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post Nov 21 2013, 05:14 PM

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QUOTE(lambethwalk @ Nov 21 2013, 04:25 PM)
no contra account smile.gif
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thumbup.gif ..just wait for the storm to clear..gotta see where mrdow is heading tonite
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post Nov 21 2013, 06:22 PM

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CBIP posted ok results, little better than last quarter. Proposed 5 cent 2nd interim divvy... thumbup.gif

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post Nov 21 2013, 07:54 PM

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gark... for value, do we look at revenue or net profit?
am looking at the results summary...
revenue increased for cbip, but net profit for quarter decreased.
eps also went down.. div also less..
can help to explain?

the newspaper reports especially like to report diff sides of the coin.
some will report results good, and some bad.. but essentially same counter.
its how they extract out the info, and those who understand less, get confused (like me)

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post Nov 21 2013, 07:59 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Nov 21 2013, 06:22 PM)
CBIP posted ok results, little better than last quarter. Proposed 5 cent 2nd interim divvy...  thumbup.gif
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Little better than last Q....
Not as geng as last year...

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lambethwalk
post Nov 21 2013, 08:00 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Nov 21 2013, 04:47 PM)
Edit... sorry.... need to be away for an hour.
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post Nov 21 2013, 08:03 PM

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QUOTE(lambethwalk @ Nov 21 2013, 08:00 PM)
boh si liao tongue.gif
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Maybe I can guess what si ....

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The boh si started after 4 hor ..... brows.gif
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post Nov 21 2013, 08:08 PM

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QUOTE(lambethwalk @ Nov 21 2013, 07:54 PM)
gark... for value, do we look at revenue or net profit?
am looking at the results summary...
revenue increased for cbip, but net profit for quarter decreased.
eps also went down.. div also less..
can help to explain?

the newspaper reports especially like to report diff sides of the coin.
some will report results good, and some bad.. but essentially same counter.
its how they extract out the info, and those who understand less, get confused (like me)
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Always look at profit.. and especially where the profit comes from.

In CPIB, last 4Q, revenue, gross profit, net profit, EPS, DPS and NAV

Q3FY2013 136,093 28,944 21,988 8.29 5.00 1.970
Q2FY2013 145,343 20,852 18,859 7.11 0.00 1.890
Q1FY2013 148,334 22,993 18,668 7.02 0.00 1.870
Q4FY2012 146,756 21,389 24,865 9.28 5.00 1.860
Q3FY2012 108,701 30,274 27,083 10.0910.001.770

As you can see although the profit is lesser than last year, the profit is still on the up trend compared to last 2Q. Expected dividend for CBIP is about 10-15 cent per year. Last year CBIP sold some plantation and distributed special dividend (one off 60 cents) which might makes the dividend smaller this year, so the Q3FY12 makes the profit and dividend 'look' higher.

For this quarter..(if you look at the Q report in detail) actually the net profit is less due to higher losses from the palm oil plantation as the fruit is just ready to harvest (total revenue 100k, total loss -2.5mil) which is common in early stages of plantation. The palm oil mill works and SPV business has both recorded higher revenue and higher profits. Net Cash flow for this quarter is very much less due to planting cost at their 63k ha plantation.
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Nov 21 2013, 07:59 PM)
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Little better than last Q....
Not as geng as last year...

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profits need to look into the future one... they just sold thier plantation for a nice profit so sure got loss of revenue.. now planting EVEN BIGGER plantation, then profit will be up up.. tongue.gif

i think ha this CBIP smart one, buy land, plant, then sell the 'ready' made plantation at premium, with the money buy even more land, plant and sell it off later... rclxub.gif

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QUOTE(gark @ Nov 21 2013, 08:10 PM)
profits need to look into the future one... they just sold thier plantation for a nice profit so sure got loss of revenue.. now planting EVEN BIGGER plantation, then profit will be up up..  tongue.gif

i think ha this CBIP smart one, buy land, plant, then sell the 'ready' made plantation at premium, with the money buy even more land, plant and sell it off later...  rclxub.gif
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Give you work........ sweat.gif

Can aaa ???
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This 2.. I seriously no vested interest.
Ok?

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post Nov 21 2013, 08:22 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Nov 21 2013, 08:14 PM)
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Give you work........ sweat.gif

Can aaa ???
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This 2.. I seriously no vested interest.
Ok?

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Ok look at it tomorrow .. now need go back eat liao...

At a glance.. SHL profit going up nicely.. property counter.. brows.gif

Yee Lee last time bought and sold before.. icon_idea.gif

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QUOTE(lambethwalk @ Nov 21 2013, 07:54 PM)
gark... for value, do we look at revenue or net profit?
am looking at the results summary...
revenue increased for cbip, but net profit for quarter decreased.
eps also went down.. div also less..
can help to explain?

the newspaper reports especially like to report diff sides of the coin.
some will report results good, and some bad.. but essentially same counter.
its how they extract out the info, and those who understand less, get confused (like me)
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Look at profit.
Why?
Sales can always be 'manipulated'...

You give me 100 books to sell.
My cost is 10 bucks.
All I cared about is sales revenue...
To sell more...
I cincai and sell at 10.10.
I book earn 10 sen.
Now instead of selling 100 books, I managed to sell 200 books.
Cheap sale ma..... flex.gif

My sales revenue = 200 x 10.10 = 2020. flex.gif
But profit.... 200 x 10 sen = 20 doh.gif

Gark...
the super calculative sales bugger....
One book, he go sell at 15. sweat.gif

But since he sell so high... he only sold 20 books.

Sale revenue = 20 x 15 = 300 only.... lose to Super saleman Ah Boon. tongue.gif
But profit = 20 x 5 =100.

Which salesman you want to sapu ? sweat.gif


Most important is profit.
Sometimes, as in the case of you know who.... sweat.gif
Paper will say...
sales geng...
more $$$$$$....
But profit wise ...... sad.gif



Conclusion?
Newspaper can really spin.....
Not only local papers...
US papers too.... sweat.gif
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post Nov 22 2013, 04:11 AM

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Anyone looking at pjdev?

Net asset per share at 2.17, 5% dividend

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