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Boon3
post Feb 18 2014, 12:24 PM

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QUOTE(MrLoo @ Feb 18 2014, 12:22 PM)
I m in the middle of highway...waiting fr the driver to drive me either way... hope is 2/3... the last option meant trade 122-125 for q long time? notworthy.gif
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yes, it means it trade around the current price for a long time.

now... do you really like this bet?
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post Feb 18 2014, 12:32 PM

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QUOTE(MrLoo @ Feb 18 2014, 12:26 PM)
hmm...dunno le...my feeling its there...see how it evolves...haha... brows.gif
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LOL!

Not asking your feeling la. doh.gif

Asking you to evaluate the bet.

Out of the 4 options...

1) if this happens, you could lose money...
2) if it's the resistance... could you sell at 130? brows.gif
If cannot, maybe best price you can sell is 129 or 128.
How much profit? 5 sen or 6 sen?
3) if this happens, you make money lor
4) if this happens.. if lucky you break even. if no, you lose,

Out of 4 options...
2 options is bad for you.
1 option makes you little money.
1 option makes you money.

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post Feb 18 2014, 12:58 PM

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QUOTE(CP88 @ Feb 18 2014, 12:56 PM)
Probability & statistics.  thumbup.gif
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This is called evaluating your trading plan.

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post Feb 18 2014, 01:18 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Feb 18 2014, 01:03 PM)
Boon.. 5210 ok boh?

TA wise ... kelong..
FA wise... over value..

But i think got chance to come back.. it stayed sideline too long (price no change since IPO  sweat.gif ) + future growth is quite bright..  laugh.gif

What do you think?  tongue.gif

Disclaimer : Not holding or no plan to enter within 24 hours.  tongue.gif  This stock is over value and TA is shot to hell and very potential coma stock. Any purchase will have high possibility for free ticket to holland.  nod.gif
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Not ok la.

Stock was way over valued when it was relisted.

Yes, future growth is indeed bright but looks like everything is priced in.

Furthermore... it's relisting was not too long ago only.
Not really going to be bothered with this stock for now.



No need put disclaimer la...
only one or two trouble makers here only. whistling.gif

Plus we just talk wind here and we are not any stock promoters. tongue.gif
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post Feb 18 2014, 01:22 PM

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QUOTE(billy_overheat @ Feb 18 2014, 01:03 PM)
I've been reading some,

Cold eye's
Some local investment books (technical analysis)- KISS/Keep Investment Simple & Stupid
Warren Buffet's
local newspapers

websites -
investopedia
i3
bursa

annual reports too and their websites to understand the companies' biz.

Am I on the right track?  sweat.gif
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Two books for you to read.

Reminiscences of a stock operator and How To Make Money In Stocks.

Stay away from local books.
Not much help and they tend to follow what is written by others.

Local newspapers?
A lot of articles are written to promote stock.
Very misleading at times.

Warren Buffett stuff is nice to read but do know that a lot of stuff he does, will not apply to you.


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post Feb 18 2014, 01:24 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Feb 18 2014, 01:21 PM)
Ya ya... talking only... just that somehow this stock looks interesting.... need to dig dig further...  wink.gif
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This one is something like IOIP.

Let it kelong lor.... hehe
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post Feb 18 2014, 01:33 PM

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QUOTE(kingkong1 @ Feb 18 2014, 12:42 PM)
Just wonder, is there any software or apps which can list out those oversold stocks?
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No suggestion but some 3 sen opinion...

Stocks can easily be oversold for a long time and it's never easy to catch when they will rebound exactly.

And not all oversold stock will rebound and have a fairy tale ending.

Example:
AirAsia. When it crashed from 290+-, it went oversold for a long time....
Hit the low of 220+- ...
Then it rebounded...
But the rebound was just to 240+-...
Since then... stock is just here and there....up and down a bit.. not going anyhere....

Would one have catch the exact bottom of AirAsia this round?
When it rebounded... how profitable was the play?
Is this good enough for you?

Is this an ideal strategy?

Or is it simply better to try to find winners?
For instance, when AirAsia was 290+ before it crashed (Oct 2013), a stock like CBIP was trading at around 280+-.
Guess the price of CBIP today?

Isn't it better and more rewarding to find winners like CBIP?

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post Feb 18 2014, 01:41 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Feb 18 2014, 01:28 PM)
3 years since IPO still not kelong yet....  hmm.gif
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Got 3 years jor meh? sweat.gif

Ok... digging out the chart .... FOR THE FIRST TIME......

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Errr.... I am clueless how to play such chart.

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post Feb 18 2014, 01:54 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Feb 18 2014, 01:43 PM)
Hehe this is classic coma chart.. 3 years not much movement one...  wink.gif
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..... and it has 2.931 BILLION shares.

How many KTL clones is required to fry this mama up 50 sen?

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post Feb 18 2014, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(MrLoo @ Feb 18 2014, 01:58 PM)
boon3 i never counted that wor...no wonder u make money. u r counting the highest possibilities to earn the highest amount of $$  rclxms.gif  notworthy.gif
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Very important one la.

stocks with many shares, need many cows to push up the mountain.
stocks with very few shares, just call Loo. Ah Loo alone can kow tim. laugh.gif


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post Feb 18 2014, 02:35 PM

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QUOTE(lambethwalk @ Feb 18 2014, 02:31 PM)
this kind of chart is gark's specialty

he's attracted to them  tongue.gif
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LOL!

PWY stock ftw! thumbup.gif
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post Feb 18 2014, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(lambethwalk @ Feb 18 2014, 02:51 PM)
hehehe  biggrin.gif

less risk.. good for those with ability to hold smile.gif
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Don't agree.

I have seen corpse stocks ......... fall hor.

Don't assume that in the lifeless state, they cannot fall. tongue.gif
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post Feb 18 2014, 03:05 PM

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QUOTE(lambethwalk @ Feb 18 2014, 02:59 PM)
gark.. boon talking about you  tongue.gif
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Where got?

I talk about you. tongue.gif

You the 1 that said less risk. tongue.gif

Nah... real stock example...

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See how the above stock was trading very much in a range for 2 years?

Wanna guess what happen next?

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post Feb 18 2014, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Feb 18 2014, 03:06 PM)
dsonic suspend

Kindly be advised that trading in the above Company's shares will be halted with effect from 2.30 p.m., Tuesday, 18 February 2014.

Trading in the shares will resume with effect from 3.30 p.m., Tuesday, 18 February 2014.

Your attention is drawn to the Company's announcement dated 18 February 2014.
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UMA ma... sweat.gif

chicken run so fast.... run past few traffic lights.... sure kena lor .... sweat.gif sweat.gif
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post Feb 18 2014, 03:13 PM

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QUOTE(lambethwalk @ Feb 18 2014, 02:59 PM)
gark.. boon talking about you  tongue.gif
..... and here is how the 'less risk' stock ended ...

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mind you... the stock was heavily promoted by iCapital too. tongue.gif
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post Feb 18 2014, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(lambethwalk @ Feb 18 2014, 03:16 PM)
lol was just kidding about gark smile.gif

see the chart for 5401. am still holding since last year....

non stop EOS  vmad.gif
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First question: Why are you still holding?

Once you see EOS keep appearing, you need to find out 2 things.

1. How many EOS can be issued?
2. What price?

If a lot of EOS are issued at a cheap price, what do you it's their objective?
Also what you think will most likely happen to the stock?

Question again: Why are you still holding?

Last question: Can you describe the chart below?

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hehe... can I ask you the first Q again?

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post Feb 18 2014, 03:30 PM

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QUOTE(lambethwalk @ Feb 18 2014, 03:26 PM)
big paper heap. no choice but to keep for divvy  cry.gif
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Divy can cover back or not?
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QUOTE(woonsc @ Feb 18 2014, 03:30 PM)
what does EOS mean?  rclxub.gif
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Employee Option Shares
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post Feb 18 2014, 03:40 PM

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QUOTE(lambethwalk @ Feb 18 2014, 03:32 PM)

btw describing the chart would mean alot of 4 letter words for this dratted company  whistling.gif
LOL!

Describing the chart should not be like this maaa .... tongue.gif

See chart again...

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The left side (just before Jun) looks like a hill or mountain right?

The right side?

What does it resemble?

Rolling down the hill?

I would have sold.
Take the losses - this would MAKE sure I get NO MORE losses in this @$%# stock.
Next, I can put the money in a stock that will AT LEAST make me MONEY!


Think of it this way...
You kena con by this *&^% guy called Ah Boon...
He got you to play mahjong with him. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
What will you try to do?
Will you try making money back from Ah Boon playing mahjong? rolleyes.gif
Or will you find other ways to make back money?

Same with stocks.
You lose money in this F**** stock.
It doesn't mean you MUST win money back in the same F*** stock.

Make sense ah?

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post Feb 18 2014, 03:46 PM

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QUOTE(woonsc @ Feb 18 2014, 03:41 PM)
Woaah, it grants a lot of it. so i does dilute the price?
if a lot of shares are granted, it means the number of shares of the company has increased.
And this will dilute the earnings per share.
Once the earnings are diluted...
the old price ... will suddenly 'become' expensive PE wise.
And from a dividend point of view..
if a company can distribute 5 million in dividends per year...
more shares will dilute the dividends per share...

All in... not nice for minority shareholder.

PLUS... if the EOS is granted at a cheap price...
they could easily be profited by selling...
hence dragging the stock lower......


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