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 Sony Xperia Z & Xperia ZL Official Thread, 5", 4core, 2GBram, 13mp, LTE, waterproof

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post Jan 10 2013, 01:03 PM

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QUOTE(shark7 @ Jan 10 2013, 09:06 AM)
Are u buying at launch??
Its almost the same price as iphone 5 with better specs so its not bad
I doubt sony price drop very fast bcause the spec isnt outdated like last time
But htc one x drops price very fast so it might be the same and s3 isnt as expensive as i thought after few months
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europe got vts tax
their spec is not outdated xperia S faster thn S2
xperia T/TX/V is faster thn S3 http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_tx_t_a...o-news-4722.php
HTC one X is also faster thn S3 http://www.gsmarena.com/jelly_bean_update_...e-news-5010.php

their price drop so much bcauz 2 many ppl think samsung is best n buy samsung
rule of demand & supple laugh.gif
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QUOTE(sebastianX11 @ Jan 10 2013, 10:09 AM)
agreed! what the use of a phone when it has the superior hardware but cant even be running on JB. this i LOLed hard at SONY. Samsung and HTC realised this and hence they are trying their very hard to update the older gen phone
cant be said of SONY. even though they have the closest working relation with JBQ, but their software look dated. nothing new to the game except for better spec.
the reason im attracthed to Z is that i can foresee that this will prob a dev friendly phone as more dev is abandoning exynos based phone project
if it is more expensive than note 2....SONY is digging their own grave. rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
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misleading again lar
europe got vts tax lar, last time S3 cost RM 2399 in europe
tis phone is released with jellybean doh.gif ,
as u knw sony is also updating their older generation phone 2 jellybean
some phone ady get jellybean like xperia T

sony update all their high to mid end phone to ICS except xperia play
samsung? they only update their high end phone, S1 no OS upgrade at all,
S2 1 year+ ady now just with pr saying jellybean is coming soon
samsung advance is just the same

sony phones is the most dev friendly bcauz they release all their driver 2 the comunity
unlike samsung which u think they are very good even XDA dev hate samsung
http://www.xda-developers.com/xda-tv-2/sam...a-developer-tv/

u have been mislead by samsung's ads too much laugh.gif

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QUOTE(uzary @ Jan 10 2013, 01:11 PM)
Motorola has become a very silent compony since google bought them. Really weird.
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they just seldom do marketing only
their new razr hd phone battery wise beat all kind of android phones laugh.gif

motorola just like sony, nokia, very bad at marketing
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post Jan 10 2013, 01:19 PM

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QUOTE(hewtwok @ Jan 10 2013, 12:42 PM)
i guess sony still catching up on hardware side since last year they still launch dual core phone whereas every1 on quad core tongue.gif
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sony's dual core phones faster quad core lar laugh.gif
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_tx_t_a...o-news-4722.php
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QUOTE(sebastianX11 @ Jan 10 2013, 02:34 PM)
sorry....i dun buy into fanboyism like you do as in how you defended everyphone out there against samsung

i have never once thought sammy phone is every good for dev....pls, they dont release there exynos source to anyone, same goes to tegra. i think you are badly mininfornmed and twisting a lot of facts about how superior sony is.

well whatever, the fact is samsung kicking SONY arse left right centre no matter how hard they market it. marketing is what make the stuff cool. just like iPhone. its about the status, for SONY to catch up
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bcauz samsung is misleading every1 in their marketing
i just bcom very kinky recently bcauz my friend buy a note 2, 2 days ago
instead he should get a new computer 4 his final year multimedia project
just bcauz of samsung's ads, i bcom very angry vmad.gif

now he is asking ppl 2 lend him computer shocking.gif
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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Jan 10 2013, 02:38 PM)
I do purposely tryout Xperia V yesterday, it indeen really smooth and fast, and the screen was solid as well, at least it was in nice and correct color. Samsung always did to vibrant on the color. I know S III and Note II can change color profile but it was really useless, the standard too vivid, the natural too dull, that is not natural but dull.

Actually S III was fast but not really smooth, Samsung cannot proper make smoothest to S III and the most basic phone and contact cannot keep open in background, and take times to open.

Also the phone will reload the entire launcher after running heavy apps - example Google Chrome.

All this issue was gone if you use third party ROM (pure ROM like Nexus 4 Jelly Bean v4.2.1). I believe Samsung use too much RAM for the entire interface, and S III only 1GB which was not really enough for it.

All above issue was gone in Note II as Note II having 2GB RAM and I can't seen any launcher reload issue on my sister Note II.

I use too many Samsung phone, kind of bored of it not smooth interface (I want Samsung stock look), it was happen in S II and S III as well, and the build quality was ..... meh.... ok la.

And I also hate Samsung not release full doc. of Exynos chip to developer, this make a lot trouble to them on CM, and that the reason CM developer start switching now.

So I believe is time I switch to Sony soon. smile.gif
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u can change the colour profile but still cannot make the vividness go away
tis is hardware adjustment, LCD gamut adjustment, they offset it
cannot be change anymore

but some ppl like vividness of display
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QUOTE(XeactorZ @ Jan 10 2013, 04:33 PM)
anything is possible, let see the htc butterfly what price since it totally same spec with xperia z

yet, since midnight exynos 5 octa is announce, getting less and lesser addicted to xperia z already whistling.gif
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i doubt the performance of exynos 5 bcauz it is not truly a15
it is a hybrid
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QUOTE(ckchan @ Jan 10 2013, 10:19 PM)
well, i would only say that please bear in mind that there are alot of test. and all the test benchmark only test on certain aspect of the phone. example, like as in the Benchmark PI, it does not take multi-core into consideration.

here is a more complete test on the Xperia T

http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_t-review-820p4.php

so say for sure T/TX is faster than S3, maybe on certain apps, T/TX better while some other apps, S3 better.
Guess it's just better for each one of us to test it on our own.
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well if u c the qaudrant benchmark
u will c the xperia T's benchmark is lower thn usual vs previous test
so as others

as assume the 1 who doing the test got problems or they 4 get 2 close running app after they playing with it laugh.gif
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QUOTE(XeactorZ @ Jan 10 2013, 11:33 PM)
hybrid ? what do you means ?
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hybrid architecture not a truly A15 chip
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_announces_...t-news-5325.php
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QUOTE(XeactorZ @ Jan 10 2013, 11:41 PM)
oo, ya not full
4 cores is using cortex a15, while other 4 is cortex a7

if need high performance then the processor will use cortex a15
else cortex a7

and that what the hybrid means to ensure enough battery life @@
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all 8 core is mini core, actually a7 eat more battery

a7 n a15 is the design architecture, not abt the core doh.gif
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QUOTE(XeactorZ @ Jan 11 2013, 12:43 AM)
mini core ???
i thought 4 is cortex a15 and other 4 is cortex a7 ?
a7 eat more battery ? if yes why samsung don't put all are cortex a7 sweat.gif
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design wise a15 is much more power efficient with smaller footprint
dono wat they r doing but all r mini core with a15 hybrid a7 design
not 4 core a15 4 core a7, it is much like a combine kick

like example" turbo boost in intel ", the article is misleading ppl in2 thinking
they design 4 core a15, another 4 core a7, n a15 eat more battery
which is no true at all, if u were 2 run a15 small foot print vs a7 design with similar spd
a15 is using much less power & a7 is using much more power
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QUOTE(GP mad man @ Jan 11 2013, 11:18 AM)
hi guys, sry to ask...
as i still confusing whether both Z and ZL will available for malaysia?
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avaliable in malaysia both z & zl in april
i ady post in 1st page more info there, u no c sad.gif
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QUOTE(nate_nightroad @ Jan 11 2013, 11:16 AM)
Xperia Z has 5" screen but the Butterfly use the dedicated touch sensitive menu buttons(bottom bezel area) whereas the Z use the bottom part of the actual screen itself.

Is this gonna be the disadvantage of the Z for having less viewing area?
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yea, 4 most of the phone, but u can get a apps tat hide those
n make it avaliable whn u need it
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QUOTE(nate_nightroad @ Jan 11 2013, 01:45 PM)
i am struggling u see, my padfone 2 doesnt have that and i like it...

but seeing most phones like nexus 4 and xperia v has got the menu key taking up the screen area make it seems like it is a trend now....

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bcauz they try 2 keep the design 2 be flexible lor
if u c gingerbread tat time many android phone got touch button
but whn ICS kick in they remove it

bcauz in new version of ICS tat time, function come in
tat is the more option button, since most of the phone is on touch button is fixed
a layer of more option is placed, so it look more ugly, but fixed in new update

so now most of the maker use screen instead of touch sensitive button laugh.gif
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QUOTE(jeff10012003 @ Jan 11 2013, 02:22 PM)
junsheng, i know you mentioned d in 1st page regarding inside-the-box items.
is it going to change or is the stated items all are confirmed in box?
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post Jan 11 2013, 02:27 PM

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QUOTE(jin_akira @ Jan 11 2013, 02:21 PM)
[off topic] dude your signature is killing me hahaha
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so so lar laugh.gif
i got more funny 1, bcauz cannot post scare will get holiday
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QUOTE(Areas Elysian @ Jan 11 2013, 02:41 PM)
Where did you get that information from? What is the source?
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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Jan 11 2013, 02:41 PM)
the xperia Z is unibody design? cant remove battery? hmm.gif
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cannot remove
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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Jan 11 2013, 02:41 PM)
the xperia Z is unibody design? cant remove battery? hmm.gif
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cannot remove
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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Jan 11 2013, 02:47 PM)
that's kinda sad, repair fees gonna jack up i think  unsure.gif
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if it is still under warranty lar
wat i heard is battery tat is removable 3 month warranty only
just like most of the handphone

non removable all 1 year, 4 sony

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