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 Sony Xperia Z & Xperia ZL Official Thread, 5", 4core, 2GBram, 13mp, LTE, waterproof

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post Feb 17 2013, 01:45 PM

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QUOTE(jeff10012003 @ Feb 17 2013, 01:21 PM)
ya...agreed...i'm not siding with anyone here..that's why im only posting instead of discussing about it.. im just gonna wait until 6th march..get my phone..look for pros and cons..and only then i will discuss.. smile.gif
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Questions.... Will XZ be available at every sony centre throughout Malaysia or just the major ones on 6th?
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post Feb 17 2013, 01:54 PM

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QUOTE(eugenetwh @ Feb 17 2013, 01:45 PM)
Questions.... Will XZ be available at every sony centre throughout Malaysia or just the major ones on 6th?
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i think it will be available throughout Malaysia..as even my local shop(not sony center) even confirmed 6th march..
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post Feb 17 2013, 02:00 PM

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Actually getting the Phone itself is not problem if later launch.

The most un-friendly is the accessories.

Like last time, just to get the Live Dock, you have to wait. Smart View Watches, Casing, Screen protector etc. Even the livesound headset also need pre-order.

It not as easy as iphone. The Iphone5 not yet in malaysia, the accessories ,TB charging cable. Extended Battery Case, Wireless Charge Case all available...


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post Feb 17 2013, 02:21 PM

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QUOTE(jeff10012003 @ Feb 17 2013, 01:54 PM)
i think it will be available throughout Malaysia..as even my local shop(not sony center) even confirmed 6th march..
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so is the price gonna be the same between sony centre and outside shops?

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post Feb 17 2013, 03:09 PM

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japan sell for RM2,800... u can check kyoto-export.com
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QUOTE(ainuddin @ Feb 17 2013, 02:21 PM)
so is the price gonna be the same between sony centre and outside shops?
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For the pricing, I could not give you a definitive answer..only price range between 1999-2199.. however this is only a speculated price as no official pricing from any official in Malaysia is given.. we can only wait.. smile.gif
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post Feb 17 2013, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(waveweaver @ Feb 17 2013, 09:13 AM)
I like Xperia Z..looks cool and the specs is great.
But i don't like this thread. Too much hate posts. I don't know why ppl love to say bad things about other brand or product. For me..posting about this phone strong points is much better than post about other product weakness. Here, ppl posted bout hate Samsung..bad HTC..stupid iPhone rclxub.gif
It just make me afraid to join this type of Sony community. Try take a peek at other phone official thread. In S2..S3 or Note2 official thread, condemning other phones/product is very rare. They prefer discuss about their own product..and very seldom talk bad things about other product. I use mostly Samsung product but would like to try other product as well. After lurking and reading on this thread, i bought HTC One X+ before upgrade it to Butterfly. Maybe when Xperia Z release here, i might buy one but i don't think i can join this community as i find their mentality quite different to others.
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Im using android samsung note 2 phone now. I have tested sony iphone too. I still prefer iphone overall

From what i see iphone thread and sony is much better . They helped alot last time when i used xplay,arc s while samsung. Most of them just ignored all our noob question . Most of the reply (pls use search button) wtf they think the search button can search for specific fcking post?? It can only search thread not post and samsung thread is so alive its freaking fast like 20pages per day. They expect us to search?? And all those samsung user only care about custom roms -.- and mod stuff and they also did said bad things bout other phone especially iphone.


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QUOTE(playxboxwii @ Feb 17 2013, 03:11 PM)
Im using android samsung note 2 phone now. I have tested sony iphone too. I still prefer iphone overall

From what i see iphone thread and sony is much better . They helped alot last time when i used xplay,arc s while samsung. Most of them just ignored all our noob question . Most of the reply (pls use search button) wtf they think the search button can search for specific fcking post?? It can only search thread not post and samsung thread is so alive its freaking fast like 20pages per day. They expect us to search?? And all those samsung user only care about custom roms -.- and mod stuff and they also did said bad things bout other phone especially iphone.
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i think you might want to edit the first bolded part... rclxub.gif

the second bolded part, yes, you can search posts inside the thread, go inside a specific thread, and the search field is at the bottom..
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post Feb 17 2013, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(playxboxwii @ Feb 17 2013, 03:11 PM)
Im using android samsung note 2 phone now. I have tested sony iphone too. I still prefer iphone overall

From what i see iphone thread and sony is much better . They helped alot last time when i used xplay,arc s while samsung. Most of them just ignored all our noob question . Most of the reply (pls use search button) wtf they think the search button can search for specific fcking post?? It can only search thread not post and samsung thread is so alive its freaking fast like 20pages per day. They expect us to search?? And all those samsung user only care about custom roms -.- and mod stuff and they also did said bad things bout other phone especially iphone.
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Just my 2 cents. You hate programming and maths (your own words), therefore I suppose you find it hard to form a structured search term, so you can't be arsed to perform a proper search and grep or whatever and review and refine your search. So when others tell you to find your own solution and you know you can't find it, you blame others?

If you were paying attention in NON-programming class, you would have understood in general how IT stuff works, and make an educated guess. Well, samsung users talk about custom roms because we have so many. It's like house renovation. We can renovate once a week, twice a day, or whenever new roms come out.

A little reading of some of Freud's key concepts can be somewhat enlightening.

Oh, and sony does not produce the iphone. And jeff10012003 is correct about the search as well.

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QUOTE(joytest @ Feb 17 2013, 03:23 PM)
Just my 2 cents. You hate programming and maths (your own words), therefore I suppose you find it hard to form a structured search term, so you can't be arsed to perform a proper search and grep or whatever and review and refine your search. So when others tell you to find your own solution and you know you can't find it, you blame others?

If you were paying attention in NON-programming class, you should still understand in general how IT stuff works, and make an educated guess. Well, samsung users talk about custom roms because we have so many. It's like house renovation. We can renovate once a week or whenever new roms come out.

A little reading of some of Freud's key concepts can be somewhat enlightening.

Oh, and sony does not produce the iphone. And jeff10012003 is correct about the search as well.

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yes..
but i have to disagree one point there
My brother just got a note two

going into the lyn and try to participate can be daunting

i do wish there is a thread for first beginners like what to do with new set, what apps to install
or how/why/when to use custom roms etc

this kind of info was not on the 1st page
so to search can be laborious

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QUOTE(mcchin @ Feb 17 2013, 03:51 PM)
yes..
but i have to disagree one point there
My brother just got a note two

going into the lyn and try to participate can be daunting

i do wish there is a thread for first beginners like what to do with new set, what apps to install
or how/why/when to use custom roms etc

this kind of info was not on the 1st page
so to search can be laborious
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OT for this thread, but I have put some prelim info. And we had to read a lot ourselves as well. If asked politely, help is forthcoming.
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post Feb 17 2013, 03:59 PM

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And there it is

Sony and iphone user/owner can explain thing to new people alot of times while samsung cant?

Ok lets stop, lets just stick to the xperia z discussion

Im just saying that from my experience in this 3 phone thread

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QUOTE(joytest @ Feb 17 2013, 08:45 AM)
I'm just wondering why would you say I'm hurt? I am no samsungfag. It's just that currently only Samsung has the features I want most. I do have a thing for active digitizers.

In fact I have every respect for the hardware of the Xperia Z and its semi-openness (expandable cardslot +1, non-removable battery 0) and if Sony (mobile division) can escape the paranoia of the Entertainment division, it will be a good thing.

I never liked Sony coz they always wanted to be like crapple. If they are changing for the better (dev friendly, sensible design), that's a good thing. However, I do think this TS,um, generates a lot of comments whenever he tries to make some "factual" statements.

I myself pointed one very glaring mistake to him.
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just by accumulating the post that you made here show that you are hurt, if you think the statement are "factual" then why say that to TS, instead you say TS your english is weak, playxboxwill your programming weak even with printscreen doh.gif , well the more you post, the more it show you are insensible & retarded, who know little to none about IT.

If you want to condemn about Sony, you should do it smart, read more i see you tried to make yourself look smart in the first few post well it worked, however not anymore, if Sony is not developer friendly then what is samsung? here let me spoon feed you ok? http://www.xda-developers.com/xda-tv-2/sam...a-developer-tv/

it is time for you to stop posting in here, the one who make a lot of nonsense noise are you.

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QUOTE(waveweaver @ Feb 17 2013, 09:13 AM)
I like Xperia Z..looks cool and the specs is great.
But i don't like this thread. Too much hate posts. I don't know why ppl love to say bad things about other brand or product. For me..posting about this phone strong points is much better than post about other product weakness. Here, ppl posted bout hate Samsung..bad HTC..stupid iPhone rclxub.gif
It just make me afraid to join this type of Sony community. Try take a peek at other phone official thread. In S2..S3 or Note2 official thread, condemning other phones/product is very rare. They prefer discuss about their own product..and very seldom talk bad things about other product. I use mostly Samsung product but would like to try other product as well. After lurking and reading on this thread, i bought HTC One X+ before upgrade it to Butterfly. Maybe when Xperia Z release here, i might buy one but i don't think i can join this community as i find their mentality quite different to others.
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Well, from what I see in this thread, we were discussing about this phone's features for most of the pages (for 110++ pages), until the past recent pages when the phonearena website was brought out. In my opinion, phonearena is heavily against sony, therefore few people jump out to defend this phone, including me. not so much of talking how bad other phone is.

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QUOTE(robertlee @ Feb 17 2013, 02:00 PM)
Actually getting the Phone itself is not problem if later launch.

The most un-friendly is the accessories.

Like last time, just to get the Live Dock, you have to wait. Smart View Watches, Casing, Screen protector etc. Even the livesound headset also need pre-order.

It not as easy as iphone. The Iphone5 not yet in malaysia, the accessories ,TB charging cable. Extended Battery Case, Wireless Charge Case all available...
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Well, that's the disadvantage of buying a not so popular phone. Lots of3rd party accessory manufacturer of course will focus on the popular model just so their investment and product will sell well. Ask yourself if you r the manufacturer, will you risk develop and manufacture a not so popular mode. There's suo many iphone and samsung hp user. Confirm their market is bigger. Businessman always think about profit first and what can sell better and faster
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QUOTE(waveweaver @ Feb 17 2013, 09:13 AM)
I like Xperia Z..looks cool and the specs is great.
But i don't like this thread. Too much hate posts. I don't know why ppl love to say bad things about other brand or product. For me..posting about this phone strong points is much better than post about other product weakness. Here, ppl posted bout hate Samsung..bad HTC..stupid iPhone rclxub.gif
It just make me afraid to join this type of Sony community. Try take a peek at other phone official thread. In S2..S3 or Note2 official thread, condemning other phones/product is very rare. They prefer discuss about their own product..and very seldom talk bad things about other product. I use mostly Samsung product but would like to try other product as well. After lurking and reading on this thread, i bought HTC One X+ before upgrade it to Butterfly. Maybe when Xperia Z release here, i might buy one but i don't think i can join this community as i find their mentality quite different to others.
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that is if you want to escape from marketing hype, you compare the phones, and only purchase those that fits your needs, in S2 & S3 thread there are comparison, but other phones users did not feel hurt and go there and post their nonsense comments, but in here person like joytest keep the things up with his nonsense comments.

negatives things are sure hard to swallow, but you should know who is actually talking about the truth here.
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QUOTE(toda_III @ Feb 17 2013, 05:06 PM)
Well, from what I see in this thread, we were discussing about this phone's features for most of the pages (for 110++ pages), until the past recent pages when the phonearena website was brought out. In my opinion, phonearena is heavily against sony, therefore few people jump out to defend this phone, including me. not so much of talking how bad other phone is.
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I'll say always read all the reviews with a pinch of salt la. If we are really into certain product, read as many reviews as possible. Each reviewer have their own opinion and preference too. They may not be bias, but sometimes, more to their personal preference as well. Some will prefer round phone. Some big screen. Some viewing angle... Like for me, viewing angle not a big concern for me. So for all those reviews that say its a big issue, I'll just ignore that particular comment la.

So it is up to us to judge if the pointed out cons really matter to us. It is good that the reviewer jusy point out every cons he can think of and we have to judge it ourselvr. Choose what phone suit us and our lifestyle the most and you'll be very happy with your gadget!
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QUOTE(playxboxwii @ Feb 17 2013, 03:59 PM)
And there it is

Sony and iphone user/owner can explain thing to new people alot of times while samsung cant?

Ok lets stop, lets just stick to the xperia z discussion

Im just saying that from my experience in this 3 phone thread

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actually even here, when people keep asking redundant questions, we always redirect to first page..
TS always update the info there based on news..
if there are missing news inform him..
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QUOTE(ckchan @ Feb 17 2013, 05:30 PM)
I'll say always read all the reviews with a pinch of salt la. If we are really into certain product, read as many reviews as possible. Each reviewer have their own opinion and preference too. They may not be bias, but sometimes, more to their personal preference as well. Some will prefer round phone. Some big screen. Some viewing angle... Like for me, viewing angle not a big concern for me. So for all those reviews that say its a big issue, I'll just ignore that particular comment la.

So it is up to us to judge if the pointed out cons really matter to us. It is good that the reviewer jusy point out every cons he can think of and we have to judge it ourselvr. Choose what phone suit us and our lifestyle the most and you'll be very happy with your gadget!
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agreed with the comment, every product have their pro and cons, the problem with this thread is that xperia Z was defended by some of the extreme fanboy that cant accept the cons of xperia Z and keep on defending Sony until ppl reading get really annoyed.

we r all here bcos of interested in the great phone release by sony, just be open n accept the comment/review/fact we all found, u can choose to believe or not until the real phone launch and real "user review" comes.
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