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ericlawyh
post Jan 12 2016, 11:47 PM

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QUOTE(Netto Hikari @ Jan 12 2016, 11:10 PM)
speed of transfer is base on your wifi speed and not yor usb speed. if u wan pure usb3.0 speed, just plug it directly to yor usb3.0 port on yor laptop or test again using cat5e/cat6 cable.

from yor screenshot, i can c that it is transferring at max possible speed for your intel n 6230, 62MB/s = 544Mb/s
(MB/s = megabyte per sec, Mb/s = megabit per sec)
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Well, please read my earlier post on 5Ghz wireless connection.
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post Jan 13 2016, 02:25 AM

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QUOTE(Netto Hikari @ Jan 13 2016, 01:23 AM)
i would suggest you read this article.

http://www.speedguide.net/faq/what-is-the-...of-wireless-374
http://routerguide.net/setting-up-20-mhz-o...rk-performance/
credit: http://www.itworld.com/article/2756011/mob...om-802-11n.html

please understand that no matter how fast the input is, the output cannot cope with the speed of the input.
its like having a large pipe that flows in the water to the tank, but have a smaller pipe that distribute throughout the house, u dont expect that all these pipe can flow as fast as the input pipe.

from yor screenshot, it is quite good for that speed over wifi.
but from yor another screenshot, it does look horrible.

question will be on that horrible 1.74MB/s, where were u testing it when compare to the 67MB/s?
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- 1.74MB/s - via 5GHz wireless connection to an USB 3.0 ext HDD attached to RT-AC1200HP
- 67MB/s - direct connection to the same ext HDD using the laptop's USB 2.0 port (on purpose as requested by ASUSmy)

My findings: The ASUS NAS performance is horrible, unless other user can show me the different results
ericlawyh
post Jan 13 2016, 09:56 AM

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QUOTE(Netto Hikari @ Jan 13 2016, 08:35 AM)
ic, i have misunderstood yor 2nd post previously.

if u r near to the router and that was the speed, than it is really sux.

try this tool and check if yor area is that channel flooded.
http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/wireless_network_view.html

try different channel and try using network cable, this should be able to test the raw speed of the nas performance, than compare to wifi.
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Thanks for the suggestion.

Yes. I tested the performance within two meters from the router, without any blocking.

As mentioned earlier, I am connecting with 5GHz

Have checked the WifiInfoView previously, seems like I'm the only household within the landed double storey neighborhood which uses the 5GHz band... whistling.gif

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post Jan 13 2016, 10:45 AM

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QUOTE(ericlawyh @ Nov 30 2015, 10:49 AM)
If I ever tried to use LAN cable, then I would rather use the direct connection to my USB 3.0 external HDD instead, why bother the Asus NAS capability as per advertised in your website?

I do understand that the router's specifications are expected to be lower if compared to a full fledged NAS. But the maximum throughput that I've tested are just way too below the expectation as per advertised in your website:

Data Rate
802.11n : up to 300 Mbps
802.11ac : up to 867 Mbps

Actual Test Results (SCP Protocol):
Upload: 0.45 Mbps
Download: 0.7 Mbps

Just bear in mind that even the now-aging USB 2.0 standard can theoretically transfer data at a very high 480 Megabits per second (Mbps).  shakehead.gif
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Another previously tested performance when using a more secured SCP protocol to transfer the files within wireless network using 5GHz. doh.gif

Seems like I really have to buy another decent NAS just to meet my simple expectation.

In summary:
- Wireless file transfer using normal Windows Explorer Copy & Paste: 1.74MB/s
- Wireless file transfer using SCP Protocol: 0.05625MB/s Download, 0.0875MB/s Upload

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ericlawyh
post Jan 13 2016, 11:06 AM

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Hello ASUSmy

Is the QoS issue still remain unresolved in RT-AC1200HP?

http://www.snbforums.com/threads/slow-lan-...s-enabled.9967/
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post Jan 13 2016, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(soonwai @ Jan 13 2016, 11:14 AM)
Probably a CPU limitation. Check your router's CPU usage. If it goes to 100% when transferring at 1.74MB/s then that's all you gonna get. What can I say? It's a router not an NAS.

Even my old DLink DNS-323 "NAS" only serves files at about 3-4MB/s. The older model Airport Extreme Base Station and my Mikrotik RB751G both do 2-3MB/s. Test were done using SMB. I'm currently using an RB2011 with a faster CPU so it may fare a bit better.
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I do agree it's a router and not a full fledged NAS.

But, even your "old" gadgets still have the better performance than a"new" 2015 model of RT-AC1200HP's 1.74MB/s.
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post Jan 13 2016, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(wcypierre @ Jan 13 2016, 11:29 AM)
SCP will be slower compared to NFS/Samba, especially when it uses a "stronger" encryption method. Regardless, it does look slow, even my raspi can deliver more than that on 802.11n.

Check on your cpu usage and have you set any QoS/firewall settings?
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Will check the router's CPU usage when back home tonight.

As I'm still using VIP 10, hence the QoS has been set as 10Mbps for both download & upload with default firewall.

Let's see whether ASUSmy can reproduce this symptom or not...
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post Jan 13 2016, 11:46 AM

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QUOTE(wcypierre @ Jan 13 2016, 11:42 AM)
Remove the QoS and try again.
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Will try that as well.

If QoS was the culprit, then the router's firmware is buggy.

Based on my understanding, QoS would only manage the WAN download / upload bandwidth, and shouldn't restrict the internal LAN speed.
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post Jan 13 2016, 12:20 PM

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QUOTE(wcypierre @ Jan 13 2016, 12:02 PM)
I don't have any experience with Asus router's web interface, but afaik unless you've set a specific filter to limit it to a subnet/domain/ip/port/interface, otherwise it would apply the rule for all packets.
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Well, I didn't set any particular limit on subnet/domain/ip/port/interface.

You may have a look on its dummy configuration screen below:
http://event.asus.com/2012/nw/dummy_ui/en/QoS_EZQoS.html
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post Jan 13 2016, 01:11 PM

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QUOTE(wcypierre @ Jan 13 2016, 12:39 PM)
what I meant is if you didn't set any filter on any particular subnet/domain/ip/port/interface, your qos should be applied for both lan and wan.
https://www.asus.com/support/faq/113967/
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Thanks dude. You're doing the job for ASUSmy. sweat.gif

Nevertheless, I still unable to correlate the QoS restriction on port 80 with the internal wireless LAN file transfer.

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There are two QoS rule for the 80 port, (1) Web surf and (2) File Transfer. If the each 80 port cumulated session size under 512 KB, it may be a normal web surfing.
If the cumulated session size over 512KB, it may be a file download via 80 port.
The purpose of our default rules is to set file transfer with low priority and it would not influence the web surfing.
If you want the high file download speed via HTTP, you can modified the default rules.
* The cumulated session size is summation of upload stream and download stream.
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post Jan 13 2016, 02:40 PM

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QUOTE(ASUSmy @ Jan 13 2016, 01:51 PM)
Hi ericlawyh,

The QoS issue is 2 years ago, do you have this problem when you enabling the QoS?

Thank you
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The current issues in summary:
- Wireless file transfer using normal Windows Explorer Copy & Paste: 1.74MB/s
- Wireless file transfer using SCP Protocol: 0.05625MB/s Download, 0.0875MB/s Upload

I'm not sure whether it's QoS related issues.

Kindly reproduce this symptom in your environment and advice on the optimize setting for wireless LAN file transfer.
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post Jan 13 2016, 11:45 PM

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QUOTE(ASUSmy @ Jan 13 2016, 01:39 PM)
Hi ericlawyh,

Thank you for the information, may I know when you connected to the 5GHz, what is the data rate that you get for your WiFi.

Thank you
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Hello ASUSmy

With 5G wireless LAN connection speed of 300Mbps, what is the maximum the NAS transfer speed (with connected USB 3.0 HDD) can be handled by RT-AC1200HP?

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post Jan 14 2016, 02:51 PM

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QUOTE(roxx @ Jan 14 2016, 12:46 PM)
Is there any firmware upgrade for AC1200HP? Saw Padavan firmware but not sure I can upgrade using that third party FW or not.. smile.gif
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Do you manage to utilize the AC1200HP's NAS capability?

Based on my personal usage, its performance sucks.

- Wireless file transfer using normal Windows Explorer Copy & Paste: 1.74MB/s
- Wireless file transfer using SCP Protocol: 0.05625MB/s Download, 0.0875MB/s Upload
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post Jan 15 2016, 01:21 PM

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QUOTE(pl95077 @ Jan 14 2016, 06:46 PM)
Play with my RT-AC1200HP, my RT-AC1200HP more powerful  icon_idea.gif  icon_idea.gif
- Wireless file transfer using normal Windows Explorer Copy & Paste: 3.08MB/s
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Holly-crap! That's almost double of my current throughput. doh.gif

But it's still considered slow when comparing with the connected wireless LAN speed of 300 Mbps ~ 37.5 MB/s.

Not even 10% of the connected 300 Mbps was utilized...
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post Jan 15 2016, 01:31 PM

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QUOTE(wcypierre @ Jan 15 2016, 02:00 AM)
did you tried removing the qos?
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After disable the QoS, the result is still the same (and even worse).

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post Jan 18 2016, 10:28 AM

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Hello ASUSmy,

What's the update on the extremely slow NAS issue?
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post Jan 19 2016, 03:03 PM

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Hello ASUSmy,

What is the outcome with your RD on the terrible RT-AC1200HP NAS performance?
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post Jan 19 2016, 05:24 PM

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QUOTE(ASUSmy @ Jan 19 2016, 03:55 PM)
Hi ericlawyh,

I am still waiting the reply from my RD, will get back to you ASAP.

Thank you
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Noted. smile.gif
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post Jan 20 2016, 04:20 PM

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QUOTE(jerm @ Jan 20 2016, 03:30 PM)
not exactly a technical question, but i bought the n14uhp a few days ago, and found that performance is on par as the existing Maxis fiber router. I guess i probably want to go for the AC router since there is a lot of N wireless networks in my condo.

do you think i can exchange this n14uhp for the ac55uhp?

actually i just wanted to rant..
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Oh my... There's nothing much price difference between RT-N14UHP and RT-AC1200HP.
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post Jan 21 2016, 12:37 PM

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QUOTE(voncrane @ Jan 20 2016, 07:44 PM)
See the attached....

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Edit:
Select routers for comparison.
Click the four square icon beside the "Login" text at the top of the page.
"Compare List".... You should see thumbnails of both routers or more..
Scroll down (Within the box that appeared)...
"Compare Now"...
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I wonder how's the NAS throughput on RT-AC55UHP, since it's having the USB 3.0 port. hmm.gif

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