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Honours

Premiership (12): 1993, 1994, 1996, 1997, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2003, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2011
Division One Champions (7): 1908, 1911, 1952, 1956, 1957, 1965, 1967
Division Two Champions (2): 1936, 1975

European Cup/UEFA Champions League (3): 1968, 1999, 2008
European Cup-Winners' Cup (1): 1991
European Super Cup (1): 1991

FA Charity/Community Shield (19 (15 outright, 4 shared)): 1908, 1911, 1952, 1956, 1957, 1965*, 1967*, 1977*, 1983, 1990*, 1993, 1994, 1996, 1997, 2003, 2007, 2008, 2010, 2011 (* = joint holders)
FA Cup Winners (11): 1909, 1948, 1963, 1977, 1983, 1985, 1990, 1994, 1996, 1999, 2004
League Cup Winners (4): 1992, 2006, 2009, 2010

Toyota Inter-continental Cup Winners (1): 1999
FIFA Club World Cup (1): 2008

Managers

A. H. Albut [1892 - 1900]
James West [1900 - September 1903]
Ernest Magnall [10 October 1903 - 9 September 1912]
T. J. Wallworth [9 September 1912 - 20 October 1912]
John Bentley [28 October 1912 - 28 December 1914]
John Robson [28 December 1914 - 31 October 1921]
John Chapman [31 October 1921 - 8 October 1926]
Clarence Hildrith [8 October 1926 - 13 April 1927]
Herbert Bamlett [13 April 1927 - 9 November 1931]
Walter Crickmer [9 November 1931 - 13 July 1932]
Scott Duncan [13 July 1932 - 7 November 1937]
Walter Crickmer [9 November 1937 - 15 February 1945]
Matt Busby [1 October 1945 - 11 June 1969]
Jimmy Murphy [February 1958 - June 1958]
Wilf McGuinness [11 June 1969 - 29 December 1970]
Matt Busby [29 December 1970 - 8 June 1971]
Frank O'Farrell [8 June 1971 - 19 December 1972]
Tommy Docherty [22 December 1972 - 4 July 1977]
Dave Sexton [14 July 1977 - 29 April 1981]
Ron Atkinson [9 June 1981 - 6 November 1986]
Alex Ferguson [6 November 1986 - Present]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Manch..._and_statistics

Record Home Win: 10-0 v Anderlecht, 26/09/1956 (European Cup Preliminary Round, 2nd leg)
Record Home Defeat: 1-7 v Newcastle United, 10/09/1927 [Division 1]

Record Away Win: 8-1 v Nottingham Forest, 06/02/1999
Record Away Defeat: 0-7 v Blackburn Rovers, 10/04/1926 (Division 1) | 0-7 v Aston Villa, 27/12/1930 [Division 1] | 0-7 v Wolverhampton Wanderers, 26/12/1931 [Division 2]

Record Win: 10-0 v Anderlecht, 26/09/1956 (European Cup Preliminary Round, 2nd leg)
Record Defeat: 0-7 v Blackburn Rovers, 10/04/1926 (Division 1) | 0-7 v Aston Villa, 27/12/1930 [Division 1] | 0-7 v Wolverhampton Wanderers, 26/12/1931 [Division 2]

Record League Win: 10-1 v Wolves, 15/10/1892 (Division 1)
Record League Defeat: 0-7 v Blackburn Rovers, 10/04/1926 (Division 1) | 0-7 v Aston Villa, 27/12/1930 [Division 1] | 0-7 v Wolverhampton Wanderers, 26/12/1931 [Division 2]

Record Premier League Win: 9-0 v Ipswich Town, 04/03/1995
Record Premier League Defeat: 0-5 v Newcastle United, 20/10/1996 | 0-5 v Chelsea, 03/10/1999 | 1–6 v Manchester City, 23 October 2011

Record FA Cup Win: 8-0 v Yeovil Town, 12/02/1949
Record FA Cup Defeat: 1-7 v Burnley, 13/02/1901 [1st Round]

Record European Win: 10-0 v Anderlecht, 26/09/1956 (European Cup Preliminary Round, 2nd leg)
Record European Defeat: 0-5 v Sporting, 18/03/1964 [Cup Winners' Cup QF]

Record Champions League Win: 7-1 v Roma, 10/04/2007 [UCL QF, 2nd leg]

Record Home Attendance (At Old Trafford): 76,098 31/3/2007 Premier League (Man Utd vs Blackburn) (83,260 for United v Arsenal at Maine Road in 1948)

Record League Appearances: 649 (106) Ryan Giggs 1990 - Present (as of 06 January 2013) [926 (147) overall]

Record League Goalscorer: 199 [in 606 league appearances] Sir Bobby Charlton 1956/73

Record Transfer Fee Received: 80,000,000 pounds for Cristiano Ronaldo to Real Madrid (July 2009)

Record Transfer Fee Paid: 30,750,000 pounds for Dimitar Berbatov from Tottenham (August 2008)


As the world's biggest and richest club, Manchester United reach a global fanbase.

Part of the attraction for fans around the world has been the football luminaries, such as George Best and Sir Bobby Charlton, who have graced the Old Trafford turf in a Manchester United shirt over the years.

Recently, Manchester United have continued to attract or develop some of the game's biggest names, with England stalwarts such as Paul Scholes and David Beckham having been regular fixtures in the Reds line-up.

The Manchester United team, past and present, reads like a who's who of world football.

It is only fitting that a great team should grace a great stadium. And with Old Trafford's recent development and the closure of Wembley, the ground is easily the largest in English football, holding in excess of 60,000 fans.

Despite this capacity, the demand to see United in action is so great that tickets are hard to come by.

But it isn't only Manchester United fans who flock to Old Trafford. The standard of the ground is such that it regularly hosts high-profile games, most notably, the Champions League Final and Great Britain rugby league games.

Rock fans have also made use of the Reds's facilities, watching a number of high-profile acts at the ground.

But it's football that will forever be synonymous with the Reds famous ground - and with good reason.

The last decade has seen Manchester United under the shrewd leadership of Sir Alex Ferguson maintain a virtual stranglehold on the Premiership crown.

Manchester United has won the league no fewer than 18 times in their history. They are also Cup Kings too, winning the FA cup 11 times, the league cup 4 times, as well as winning the European Super Cup, European Cup Winner's Cup, and 3 times being crowned European Cup champions.

Manchester United has long become a name associated with success both on and off the pitch.

As club profits continue to grow, Manchester United have become one of the richest sports clubs on the planet.

With supporters club branches on every continent, it's hard to go any where in the world and not see somebody wearing the famous red shirt of Manchester United.

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Nickname: The Red Devils

Ground: Old Trafford

Pitch Size: 116 x 76 yards (106.0704 x 69.4944 meter)

Capacity: 76,000

Address: Sir Matt Busby Way, Old Trafford, Manchester

Postcode: M160RA

Directions: From North: Leave the M60 at junction 12 for M602 (Salford / Manchester). At the end of M602 (Jtn 3) follow the signs for Salford Quays and Trafford Park. At the roundabout turn right into Trafford Road (A5063), then at the bridge over Manchester Ship canal, keep in the right hand lane and turn right. Next, follow this road round to Trafford Wharf Road, and then left onto Watersreach. Continue through the traffic lights onto Sir Matt Busby Way.

From South: Leave M6 at junction 19, then take the A56 towards Manchester Airport. Join the M56 to Manchester, going past the Airport and then follow the signs for the M60 (Leeds / Liverpool). Leave M60 at Jtn 7 (A56 Chester Road) following signs for Manchester United Football Club. Turn left into Sir Matt Busby Way.

Ticket prices: 25 pounds upwards, concessions from 12.50 pounds. Tickets for the home sections are usually only available to members of the club and are normally allocated by ballot.

Contact information: Ticket Office: 0161 868 8020
Main Telephone: 0161 868 8000

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QUOTE(zenix @ Nov 24 2009, 09:18 PM)
Hope Alien will sticky this info later.
Though written in 2006 so no Roy Keane yet.

Ex-United players that have moved on to become managers.

Written by Simon Stone (MARCH 22, 2006)

STEVE BRUCE (1987-1996): Took his first steps in management with Sheffield United in 1998, then swiftly moved on to Huddersfield, Wigan and Crystal Palace. Left Selhurst Park in acrimonious fashion after Birmingham targeted him as the replacement for Trevor Francis in 1991. Took Blues into the Premier League but after a heavy FA Cup defeat is struggling to keep his job.

MARTIN POWELL (1971-1983): Stylish and well-respected Scotland centre-half whose authoritative nature appeared to make him a natural for the management game. Lasted four months at Burnley.

SIR BOBBY CHARLTON (1956-1973): Arguably the finest English player of all time proved to be an unmitigated disaster as a manager. Claimed he was not given the resources to make a decent job of it at Preston but was never lured back into management following his departure after a single season.

STEVE COPPELL (1975-1983): After a knee injury cut his playing career short at just 28, Coppell turned his attention to management. Steered Crystal Palace into the FA Cup final and then third place in the old First Division - the Eagles' highest ever - the following season. It was the first of four stints in charge at Selhurst Park in a career which has seen him move to Manchester City (for only six games), Brentford and Brighton. Now at Reading and about to steer the Royals into the top flight for the first time.

PADDY CRERAND (1962-1971): A key figure in United's 1968 European Cup triumph, Crerand lasted five months at Northampton before getting the bullet and, like Charlton, never managed again.

MARK HUGHES (1983-86, 1988-95): Hughes was never tipped as a manager by Ferguson but has taken to the game with ease. Took Wales into the Euro 2004 play-offs. Took over at Blackburn shortly afterwards, steering Rovers away from danger in his first season. Currently in contention for a Champions League spot.

BRIAN KIDD (1967-1974): Another European Cup winner who proved to be a poor manager. Got itchy feet in 1998 after spending seven years as Sir Alex Ferguson's highly-rated assistant. Took command at Blackburn but dismissed six months later.

BRYAN ROBSON (1981-94): United's inspirational leader under Ron Atkinson and Ferguson. There are two schools of thought on his stint at Middlesbrough - he either spent lots and achieved little (relegation and two losing finals) or he laid the platform for the Teessiders to become an established Premiership outfit. Kept West Brom up in extraordinary fashion last year but back in trouble again this season.

GORDON STRACHAN (1984-89): Scotland international who won the FA Cup with United and the title of the pre-Premiership era with Leeds. Sacked after five years at when the Sky Blues lost top-flight status, then enjoyed success at Southampton - reaching the 2003 Cup final - before resigning to spend more time with his family. Now at Celtic, has recovered from a humiliating Champions League exit to Artmedia Bratislava, and, after winning his first trophy on Sunday in the CIS Insurance Cup, is set to clinch the Scottish Premier League.

NOBBY STILES (1960-71): Along with Charlton, one of only two Englishmen to have won the World Cup and European Cup, he replaced his former England and United team-mate at Preston, with limited success. After a brief stint in Vancouver, returned to England to take over as manager of West Brom. Sacked after five months, having gained just three wins.
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The Manchester United squad (Back Row L-R:) Chris Smalling, Jonny Evans, Phil Jones, Bebe, Robin van Persie, Rio Ferdinand, Michael Carrick, Nemanja Vidic, Federico Macheda
(Third Row L-R:) Sports Scientist Simon Wells, Head of Fitness Tony Strudwick, Shinji Kagawa, Angelo Henriquez, Danny Welbeck, Nick Powell, Darren Fletcher, Nani, Assistant Kit Manager Alec Wylie, Masseur Rod Thornley
(Second Row L-R:) Masseur Andy Caveney, Masseur Gary Armer, Kit Manager Albert Morgan, Doctor Steve McNally, Antonio Valencia, Anders Lindegaard, David de Gea, Sam Johnstone, Ashley Young, Alexander Buttner, Goalkeeping Coach Eric Steele, Physio Rob Swire, Physio Neil Hough
(Front Row L-R:) Rafael Da Silva, Javier "Chicharito" Hernandez, Anderson, Assistant Manager Mike Phelan, Ryan Giggs, Manager Sir Alex Ferguson, Paul Scholes, First Team Coach Rene Meulensteen, Tom Cleverley, Patrice Evra, Wayne Rooney

Manchester United 2012-2013 Squad List [Squad number - Player Name] * Last update: 05/09/2012 *

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Goalkeeper
1. David De Gea
13. Anders Lindegaard

Ben Amos * Loaned To Hull City *

Defender
2. Rafael da Silva
3. Patrice Evra
4. Phil Jones
5. Rio Ferdinand
6. Jonathan Evans
12. Chris Smalling
15. Nemanja Vidic (capt)
28. Alexander Büttner

Fabio da Silva * Loaned To QPR *

Midfielder
7. Antonio Valencia
8. Anderson
11. Ryan Giggs
16. Michael Carrick
17. Nani
18. Ashley Young
22. Paul Scholes
23. Tom Cleverley
24. Darren Fletcher
25. Nick Powell
26. Shinji Kagawa
33. Bebe * Loaned To Rio Ave *

Striker
10. Wayne Rooney
14. Javier Hernandez
19. Danny Welbeck
20. Robin van Persie
21. Angelo Henriquez * Loaned To Wigan *
27. Federico Macheda

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Squad numbers: 1: De Gea (GK), 2: Rafael, 3: Evra, 4: Jones, 5: Ferdinand, 6: Evans, 7: Valencia, 8: Anderson, 9: Berbatov, 10: Rooney, 11: Giggs, 12: Smalling, 13: Lindegaard (GK), 14: Chicharito, 15: Vidic, 16: Carrick, 17: Nani, 18: Young, 19: Welbeck, 20: Van Persie, 22: Scholes, 23: Cleverley, 24: Fletcher, 25: Powell, 26: Kagawa, 27: Macheda, 31: Wootton, 33: Bebe, 34: Cole, 35: Lingard, 36: Vermijl, 37: Brady, 38: M.Keane, 39: Thorpe, 42: Blackett, 45: Petrucci, 46: Tunnicliffe, 48: W.Keane, 49: Veseli, 50: Johnstone (GK).


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Fergie says focus on spat with Dean is price of being at "most famous club in world" not a "wee club in the north-east like Newcastle"

meanwhile,

@DiscoMirror: Fergie on Pardew: "He is the worst for haranging referees. His whole staff, every game. He was at it the whole game on Wed." #MUFC

@DiscoMirror: More Fergie on Pardew: "He shoves a ref then makes a joke of it, then he's got the cheek to criticise me. It's unbelievable." #MUFC #NUFC

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Duo may be fit for Baggies

Danny Welbeck and Ashley Young could return for Saturday's visit of West Brom but Sir Alex Ferguson will assess the fitness of his squad after the midweek exertions against Newcastle.

The attacking pair missed out on the 4-3 Boxing Day thriller but, with Shinji Kagawa also a possible inclusion as a substitute, there should be more forward options open to the boss.

Wayne Rooney's injury is improving but he will again miss out while Ryan Giggs is unlikely to feature despite his superb second-half display against the Magpies.

"I can't give you an update on the injuries as it's only two days on from Wednesday and there were issues with a soft, tiring pitch," Sir Alex said at his press conference. "We need to assess players like Paul Scholes and Ryan Giggs as I think, at their age, it took a lot out of them.

"We're hoping maybe Young will be ready and Daniel Welbeck should be ready. He was ill on Tuesday night but I think he should be okay. At least that's a couple of bodies back fresh for us. We'll just assess the rest in terms of tiredness.

"All the players are key now as we're picking up one or two injuries. Rooney is out for at least another two games. He was a bit better yesterday. We're going to assess Phil Jones but I don't think he'll be ready."

Shinji Kagawa enjoyed a work-out on the field before the 4-3 win against Newcastle, even though he was not part of the matchday squad.

"Shinji wanted to do a warm-up and training on the pitch and he is getting close," explained Sir Alex. "I'll see what he's like today and I could maybe put him on the bench tomorrow depending on who is available.

"The most important thing is to assess the tiredness and also the fitness of one or two others."


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Ferguson reacts angrily to Pardew comments

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Manchester United manager Sir Alex Ferguson made a stinging response to Newcastle boss Alan Pardew's assertion that he should be punished for misconduct, branding Pardew's side a "wee club in the north east".

The FA confirmed on Thursday that Ferguson would not face any disciplinary action for his furious reaction to referee Mike Dean overruling assistant Jake Collin and awarding Newcastle's second goal in the Premier League leaders' 4-3 win at Old Trafford on Boxing Day.

Ferguson could not contain his anger and confronted Dean, Collin and fourth official Neil Swarbrick.

Pardew said of the incident on Thursday: "I think there were a lot of things the FA could look at. But it seems they are looking at none."

However, Ferguson used his press conference ahead of Saturday's home game against West Bromwich Albion to hit back at Pardew and the media for the coverage devoted to the issue.

"I was demonstrative but I was not out of order,'' he said. "The press have had a field day. The only person they have not spoken to is Barack Obama because he is busy,

"It is unfortunate but I am the manager of the most famous club in the world. Not Newcastle, a wee club in the north east.

"I was demonstrative. I am always demonstrative. Everyone knows that. I am an emotional guy. But I was not abusive.

"I shouted Mike over. We walked towards each other. I was only on (the pitch) three or four yards. That has been overplayed.

"The problem for me is that the profile of this club is huge.

"Alan Pardew has come out and criticised me. He is the worst at haranguing referees. He shoves them and makes a joke of it. How he can criticise me is unbelievable. He forgets the help I gave him, by the way."

Pardew was given a two-match touchline ban and fined £20,000 after accepting an FA charge of improper conduct for pushing assistant referee Peter Kirkup earlier this season.

He was sent off during the 2-1 win over Tottenham on August 18 at St James' Park when he pushed the official after claiming the ball had gone out of play during a Spurs attack.

United can go 10 points clear at the top of the Premier League on Saturday if they beat West Brom and champions Manchester City lose at Norwich.


His wording was like of a person betrayed by someone he thought of as a friend, rather than just feeling petty. One thing's for sure, with Pardew's 8-year contract there would be plenty of explosive encounters down the road until SAF retires.
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Added on December 28, 2012, 7:56 pmNow Wenger want to join the fun as well

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Wenger: Ferguson should have been punished

Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger has reopened his long-standing feud with Sir Alex Ferguson by claiming the Manchester United boss should have been punished for his angry confrontation with the match officials during his side's Boxing Day win against Newcastle.

Ferguson launched an angry on-pitch outburst at referee Mike Dean and his officials after they allowed a contentious Jonny Evans own goal to stand in a game United eventually won 4-3 with a last gasp Javier Hernandez winner, yet it is the behaviour of Ferguson that has been the chief talking point in the days since.

The United boss escaped any punishment from the FA because Dean did not include the incident in his match report.

After being reminded that the same referee Dean sent him to the stands at Old Trafford for kicking a water bottle back in 2009, Wenger refused to refute the suggestion that some in the game are 'scared' of veteran United boss Ferguson.

"Why should the referees be scared of Ferguson?" asked Wenger. "You have to ask them if this is true, but this is a little bit of an idea that has been spread around the country. You have the rules, you have to observe them or not. The referees have to act on that. They are professional people and they have to act on that.

"The message it sends out when we see images is not to behave like that. They (Mike Dean) have made a mistake, they are honest, but they have made a mistake. If he (Ferguson) did not behave as he should have done, he should be punished. He will be the first to admit that. The rules are the rules. It's not rules for one person and not another.

"The Premier League is watched all over the world and this sets a bad example. Should we behave like that? No. I have not always behaved in the right way and when you go overboard, you have to be punished."

Wenger's comments add to those of Newcastle boss Alan Pardew, who was irate with the referee Dean's decision not to punish Ferguson, even though he appeared to blatantly breach FA guidelines against intimidating officials by confronting Dean at the half-time break in his side's defeat.

"Mike Dean might feel slightly disappointed he didn't do something about it because the pressure on the officials is tough to take for a referee," stated Pardew. "Sometimes when you reflect on a game and look back on it, maybe you might have acted differently

"We do that as managers and I'm sure he might think that as a referee.

"Of course, it's an emotional game. Apparently they had a cordial discussion. I've had a few of them myself, but sometimes ended up in the stands with that cordial discussion."

The FA's Respect campaign, designed to improve the standing of match officials in the game, states that players and managers should "never engage in bullying, intimidation or harassment" of match officials, but that guideline appears to have been overlooked in this incident.


This post has been edited by legendofhafiz: Dec 28 2012, 07:56 PM
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